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JuQu's avatar

You assume those young flinchers would be high quality teachers. I say some would, some not. But then, I am a delusional pouter according to you. That ad hominem shows your leftist bent. You also have gone to only teachers responsible for education when earlier you mentioned less than optimal living conditions for students. I asked then for your thoughts on why those neighborhoods vote Democrat year and year and things don’t improve. So, riddle me that, Batman.

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I assume that in general, talented and ambitious people are drawn to higher salaries, that their cost/benefit analysis for different careers will inevitably include salary, and that salary will cause some of them to choose a different path. All of these statements are indisputable.

If you want more good teachers, raise the salary. "I don't think they're talented"? No one cares about your feelings on the issue. This is how labor markets work. Nothing you say will change that.

If you think the reasons economic conditions are bad have to do with "democrat/republican," I'm not interested in any discussion with you. Both parties are terrible. They're basically the same. Life is a lot more complex than blue team/red team, and I find that the people who jump to this lens and try to make gotcha arguments out of it are boring, narrow minded, and exhausting.

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JuQu's avatar

Guess what? I feel the same about those who can only attack in comments sections. You misread me. I belong to neither party. These cities, however, are largely led by Democrats. Maybe you would prefer the question phrased as why do they keep in power those who fail them. Gotcha argument is a figment of your imagination. I’ll just say that I am sorry that you felt you were underpaid and hope that , however you measure payment, it has turned around for you.

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blox.'s avatar

Where is the attack in either of my last two comments? It seems like you want to be a victim. The closest thing to an attack is my comment that I find Dem/GOP squabbles boring and unproductive.

But I'll bite: the problems are bigger than mayors and governors. Plenty of Republican states are falling apart, with terrible health and human conditions, terrible economic growth, and other challenges. When GOP took over Missouri, their destructive policies caused a mass of people to move to the Kansas side of Kansas City, hollowing out Missouri's economy and tax base. I don't blame those problems on Republicans any more than I blame city problems on Dems. I blame them on a broken system in which both parties are complicit.

Team sports politics exists to distract and exhaust us with pointless bickering.

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JuQu's avatar

Boring and unproductive, eh? Didn’t you just answer my question about why citizens keep voting for ineffective folks, with a charge of ineffectiveness in the GOP? If it is boring and unproductive, why do that? I completely agree with you on team sports politics. Your comments are what, though? Rants? How would you begin to solve this? That is why I asked my question about the people voting to keep this system ticking on. Why do WE not demand change? Maybe el gato malo is correct that the problem is in education.

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blox.'s avatar

I comment because I enjoy discussing ideas, especially with people with whom I disagree. I I have very micro goals, mainly personal learning and development. I think people who aim for macro goals on social media and discussion boards are fooling themselves.

I don't think electoral politics is a place for good ideas; I think it's where good ideas go to die. I don't think we can solve our problems through voting, nor the systems that voting sustains, so it's not a topic I'm interested in most of the time.

Education is certainly one of the core issues, but nothing is mono-causal. I would also indict mass media, corporate newsrooms, lobbying / political spending, deep state politics, financialization of the economy, hyper-individualism, vapid consumer culture, "quick fix" expectations, our obsession with social status, our addiction to microliters of dopamine, an economy that cleaves meaningful work and social connections from our daily lives, "golden handcuffs," the dissolution of social trust, and much more.

That's one reason I've chosen to argue with gato in these comments, even playing devil's advocate at times. Any attempts to change education while ignoring larger issues in the political economy will also fail.

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