I'll carefully disagree. I don't believe they recognize themselves as having different opinions. They've grown up in silos, and believe that they have the *only* correct opinions. There absolutely are hustlers behind the scenes, making use of these useful idiots - but the folks with the deer-on-the-highway looks on their faces are NOT them. These are the true believers. (Insane Leftist behavior always makes more sense when you see them as religious zealots, not criminals trying to work a scam.)
And they don't in any sense believe that those who disagree have a right to be free or even alive. And they believe that they have experienced a literal coup d'etat by an authoritarian dictator who with his staff is committing crimes against humanity. This fight has been taking place for over 100 years, and it's going to take over 100 years of fighting back and never letting down.
"and it's going to take over 100 years of fighting back and never letting down."
I think the fight could be over in the next 4 years if the depth's of corruption are exposed. People don't like being lied to. The Left are going to have a hard time clinging to their delusions in the face of massive evidence. Blind hatred will be all they have left which will further marginalize them.
People are sick of polarity. The phase change will come from those who have solutions based on how cause and effect works in the real world. Everyone has something they can do to make the world a better place. This is where our common humanity lies and how inclusiveness can happen naturally rather than being shoved down our throats through racist division.
Just for giggles, I asked Grok about the nature of socio-cultural phases changes. Here's what it said:
"Grok, explain the nature and characteristics of socio-cultural phase changes."
Socio-cultural phase changes refer to significant shifts or transformations in the collective beliefs, values, norms, behaviors, and structures of a society or culture. These changes are akin to phase transitions in physical systems (e.g., water turning from liquid to gas), where a system moves from one state of organization to another, often driven by underlying tensions, external pressures, or gradual evolution. In the socio-cultural context, such shifts can reshape how communities function, how individuals interact, and how power, identity, and meaning are constructed.
Nature of Socio-Cultural Phase Changes
Systemic Transformation:
These changes affect the foundational elements of a societyтАФits institutions, traditions, and shared narratives. TheyтАЩre not just surface-level trends but involve a reordering of the social "system" itself. For example, the transition from feudalism to capitalism in Europe wasnтАЩt just economic; it altered family structures, religious authority, and individual aspirations.
Non-Linear Dynamics:
Socio-cultural shifts often follow unpredictable, non-linear paths. Small triggersтАФlike a technological innovation (e.g., the printing press) or a symbolic event (e.g., the fall of the Berlin Wall)тАФcan cascade into widespread upheaval, while decades of gradual pressure might suddenly erupt into a new cultural paradigm.
Collective Process:
These changes emerge from the interplay of individual actions and collective behavior. TheyтАЩre not imposed top-down (though leaders can catalyze them) but arise from a critical mass of people adopting new ways of thinking or living, often in response to shared challenges or opportunities.
Temporal Variability: Phase changes can unfold over centuries (e.g., the secularization of Western societies) or in a matter of years (e.g., the cultural revolutions of the 1960s). The speed depends on the intensity of the driving forces and the resilience of the existing order.
Characteristics of Socio-Cultural Phase Changes
Disruption of Stability:
Before a phase change, societies often experience a period of tension or disequilibriumтАФeconomic inequality, cultural stagnation, or technological misalignment with old norms. This instability primes the system for transition. For instance, the Industrial Revolution disrupted agrarian lifestyles, forcing new urban identities and class structures.
Emergence of New Norms:
As the old framework weakens, new values and practices take root. The Renaissance, for example, marked a shift from medieval theocentrism to humanism, elevating art, science, and individual agency. These norms often feel radical at first but eventually solidify into a new "common sense."
Conflict and Resistance:
Phase changes rarely occur smoothly. Entrenched powersтАФwhether religious, political, or economicтАФresist the shift, leading to cultural clashes. The Protestant Reformation sparked wars and schisms as it challenged Catholic dominance, illustrating how old and new orders vie for control during transitions.
Critical Thresholds:
Like a boiling point, socio-cultural shifts often require a tipping pointтАФenough people, resources, or ideas aligning to push the system over the edge. The spread of literacy and books in the 15th century, for instance, hit a threshold that undermined oral traditions and clerical gatekeeping.
Irreversibility:
Once a phase change completes, reverting to the prior state is rare. The adoption of digital technology in the late 20th century, for example, permanently altered communication, work, and social bonds, making a pre-digital world impractical even if desired.
Drivers of Socio-Cultural Phase Changes
Technology:
Innovations like the internet or steam engine redefine how people live and connect.
Economics:
Shifts in wealth distribution or production (e.g., globalization) reshape social hierarchies.
Ideology:
New philosophies or religions (e.g., Marxism, Enlightenment thinking) inspire alternative visions of society.
Environment:
Climate shifts or resource scarcity can force cultural adaptation, as seen with nomadic-to-settled transitions in early human history.
Crisis:
Wars, pandemics, or revolutions (e.g., the Black Death, World War II) accelerate change by exposing weaknesses in the old order.
Examples in History
Agricultural Revolution (~10,000 BCE):
Shift from hunter-gatherer bands to settled farming communities, birthing property, hierarchy, and organized religion.
Axial Age (~800-200 BCE):
Emergence of reflective philosophies (e.g., Buddhism, Confucianism) that emphasized individual ethics over tribal rituals.
Digital Age (late 20th century):
Move from industrial to information-based societies, decentralizing authority and amplifying global connectivity.
Modern Context
Today, we might be witnessing a socio-cultural phase change driven by AI, climate anxiety, and the erosion of traditional institutions. Symptoms include the rise of decentralized movements (e.g., via social media), challenges to nation-state sovereignty, and a redefinition of work and identity in a post-industrial world. Whether this resolves into a stable new phase or prolonged chaos depends on how these forces equilibrate.
In essence, socio-cultural phase changes are the punctuated evolution of human systemsтАФmessy, creative, and inevitable as societies adapt to internal contradictions and external realities. TheyтАЩre less about progress in a straight line and more about reconfiguration into something unpredictably new.
Exactly! They are right, we are all wrong. My brother is one of them. He seems cemented to the idea that he is in the "middle" and we are ultra far right in our opinions. However...he has been uncharacteristically silent the last 4 weeks.
I'll carefully disagree. I don't believe they recognize themselves as having different opinions. They've grown up in silos, and believe that they have the *only* correct opinions. There absolutely are hustlers behind the scenes, making use of these useful idiots - but the folks with the deer-on-the-highway looks on their faces are NOT them. These are the true believers. (Insane Leftist behavior always makes more sense when you see them as religious zealots, not criminals trying to work a scam.)
And they don't in any sense believe that those who disagree have a right to be free or even alive. And they believe that they have experienced a literal coup d'etat by an authoritarian dictator who with his staff is committing crimes against humanity. This fight has been taking place for over 100 years, and it's going to take over 100 years of fighting back and never letting down.
"and it's going to take over 100 years of fighting back and never letting down."
I think the fight could be over in the next 4 years if the depth's of corruption are exposed. People don't like being lied to. The Left are going to have a hard time clinging to their delusions in the face of massive evidence. Blind hatred will be all they have left which will further marginalize them.
This is a Fourth Turning phase change. It's not gonna take a hundred years. Give it another five years...maybe.
Could be less.
People are sick of polarity. The phase change will come from those who have solutions based on how cause and effect works in the real world. Everyone has something they can do to make the world a better place. This is where our common humanity lies and how inclusiveness can happen naturally rather than being shoved down our throats through racist division.
Phase changes come when they come.
Just for giggles, I asked Grok about the nature of socio-cultural phases changes. Here's what it said:
"Grok, explain the nature and characteristics of socio-cultural phase changes."
Socio-cultural phase changes refer to significant shifts or transformations in the collective beliefs, values, norms, behaviors, and structures of a society or culture. These changes are akin to phase transitions in physical systems (e.g., water turning from liquid to gas), where a system moves from one state of organization to another, often driven by underlying tensions, external pressures, or gradual evolution. In the socio-cultural context, such shifts can reshape how communities function, how individuals interact, and how power, identity, and meaning are constructed.
Nature of Socio-Cultural Phase Changes
Systemic Transformation:
These changes affect the foundational elements of a societyтАФits institutions, traditions, and shared narratives. TheyтАЩre not just surface-level trends but involve a reordering of the social "system" itself. For example, the transition from feudalism to capitalism in Europe wasnтАЩt just economic; it altered family structures, religious authority, and individual aspirations.
Non-Linear Dynamics:
Socio-cultural shifts often follow unpredictable, non-linear paths. Small triggersтАФlike a technological innovation (e.g., the printing press) or a symbolic event (e.g., the fall of the Berlin Wall)тАФcan cascade into widespread upheaval, while decades of gradual pressure might suddenly erupt into a new cultural paradigm.
Collective Process:
These changes emerge from the interplay of individual actions and collective behavior. TheyтАЩre not imposed top-down (though leaders can catalyze them) but arise from a critical mass of people adopting new ways of thinking or living, often in response to shared challenges or opportunities.
Temporal Variability: Phase changes can unfold over centuries (e.g., the secularization of Western societies) or in a matter of years (e.g., the cultural revolutions of the 1960s). The speed depends on the intensity of the driving forces and the resilience of the existing order.
Characteristics of Socio-Cultural Phase Changes
Disruption of Stability:
Before a phase change, societies often experience a period of tension or disequilibriumтАФeconomic inequality, cultural stagnation, or technological misalignment with old norms. This instability primes the system for transition. For instance, the Industrial Revolution disrupted agrarian lifestyles, forcing new urban identities and class structures.
Emergence of New Norms:
As the old framework weakens, new values and practices take root. The Renaissance, for example, marked a shift from medieval theocentrism to humanism, elevating art, science, and individual agency. These norms often feel radical at first but eventually solidify into a new "common sense."
Conflict and Resistance:
Phase changes rarely occur smoothly. Entrenched powersтАФwhether religious, political, or economicтАФresist the shift, leading to cultural clashes. The Protestant Reformation sparked wars and schisms as it challenged Catholic dominance, illustrating how old and new orders vie for control during transitions.
Critical Thresholds:
Like a boiling point, socio-cultural shifts often require a tipping pointтАФenough people, resources, or ideas aligning to push the system over the edge. The spread of literacy and books in the 15th century, for instance, hit a threshold that undermined oral traditions and clerical gatekeeping.
Irreversibility:
Once a phase change completes, reverting to the prior state is rare. The adoption of digital technology in the late 20th century, for example, permanently altered communication, work, and social bonds, making a pre-digital world impractical even if desired.
Drivers of Socio-Cultural Phase Changes
Technology:
Innovations like the internet or steam engine redefine how people live and connect.
Economics:
Shifts in wealth distribution or production (e.g., globalization) reshape social hierarchies.
Ideology:
New philosophies or religions (e.g., Marxism, Enlightenment thinking) inspire alternative visions of society.
Environment:
Climate shifts or resource scarcity can force cultural adaptation, as seen with nomadic-to-settled transitions in early human history.
Crisis:
Wars, pandemics, or revolutions (e.g., the Black Death, World War II) accelerate change by exposing weaknesses in the old order.
Examples in History
Agricultural Revolution (~10,000 BCE):
Shift from hunter-gatherer bands to settled farming communities, birthing property, hierarchy, and organized religion.
Axial Age (~800-200 BCE):
Emergence of reflective philosophies (e.g., Buddhism, Confucianism) that emphasized individual ethics over tribal rituals.
Digital Age (late 20th century):
Move from industrial to information-based societies, decentralizing authority and amplifying global connectivity.
Modern Context
Today, we might be witnessing a socio-cultural phase change driven by AI, climate anxiety, and the erosion of traditional institutions. Symptoms include the rise of decentralized movements (e.g., via social media), challenges to nation-state sovereignty, and a redefinition of work and identity in a post-industrial world. Whether this resolves into a stable new phase or prolonged chaos depends on how these forces equilibrate.
In essence, socio-cultural phase changes are the punctuated evolution of human systemsтАФmessy, creative, and inevitable as societies adapt to internal contradictions and external realities. TheyтАЩre less about progress in a straight line and more about reconfiguration into something unpredictably new.
I've never use AI. That is a really good analysis. Thanks for posting!
True Pete, definitely!
Agree
You have some good points and you make me feel hopeful
I think you're giving them way too much credit about their self awareness.
I don't think you are disagreeing. Just being more articulate about specific points. I agree with your take 100%.
Exactly! They are right, we are all wrong. My brother is one of them. He seems cemented to the idea that he is in the "middle" and we are ultra far right in our opinions. However...he has been uncharacteristically silent the last 4 weeks.
Sometimes that's all I want. Just for them to STFU for a while.