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kertch's avatar

But wait, didn't Buti-giggle promise 500,000 electric charging stations by 2030?

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Silva's avatar

Charging stations powered by what?

The same people who want to force us all into EVs are trying to dismantle our existing coal, natural gas, and nuclear power plants. We need to approximately double our power generation ability to make the 2035 arbitrary deadline, yet they are trying to dismantle the power stations we have now.

Photovoltaic cells and wind turbines are not going to power the EV revolution they are fantasizing about. We would need on-demand power (not "when the wind happens to blow" or "during the day when it is not cloudy") and plenty of it. That's going to come from coal, gas, or nuclear.

Nuclear ought to be a gimme here, given that it is carbon-free, but no. Ever since Three Mile Island killed or harmed... zero people, they've been too afraid.

The other big question is where all these batteries are going to come from. The ten year old slaves are working their hardest to get those materials out of those exceptionally dangerous mines, folks!

EVs stink in places that have cold winters. EVs stink in places that have hot summers. EVs require more fossil fuels to be burned to make their short-lived tires, and they cause more road damage from their greater weight, requiring more fossil fuels to be burned to repair them.

EVs are costly to ensure, because any damage at all is enough for an insurance company to write off an entire battery pack, which means that EVs are regularly totaled for superficial damage. It is too much of a risk to leave a potentially damaged battery in service in our litigious society.

EVs stink at towing, which is kind of important with trucks. They also would stink at powering the vast container ships that bring things (like battery materials) in from abroad. A Suezmax container ship would need to use 75% of its weight carrying capacity just for batteries if it was to make the trans-Pacific journey from China. That's unworkable... and if powering electric cars is hard, how are we going to power electric ships?

The answer, of course, is that we are not. They will continue to use heavy fuel oil that is the dirtiest but cheapest fuel around, and they will continue to contribute far more CO2 to the air than cars and trucks of all sizes. The mining operations to get the cobalt and lithium out of the ground will continue to use massive amounts of fossil fuels, and the prices of these battery packs will rise sharply as demand further outpaces supply. The mines are already at capacity, and they want to increase the demand by orders of magnitude. EVs are already too expensive for many people, and with the battery packs doubling or tripling in price, it will get much worse. So, too, will the insurance costs, which are driven by the battery costs.

EVs replacing ICE cars and trucks is a pipe dream, and the people mandating it should know better. They're using the "build it and they will come" strategy... they build the laws that require [x], and they expect that this will force [x] into existence.

EVs are a solution in search of a problem. Even if CO2 was a problem (and it's not), they would do nothing to address it. Moving the tailpipe from the back of the car to a power plant a few hundred miles away does not mean the emissions don't exist anymore. It takes two transformations of energy form to make a gas or diesel vehicle to move (potential to thermal, thermal to kinetic). It takes six to move an electric vehicle, and that EV will be 25% heavier. That's more energy spent per mile... and thus more CO2 per mile.

As if that were not enough, EVs also have worse reliability than gas cars, and they have a habit of incinerating themselves and those inside or nearby with some regularity. Remember all the hoopla over that Samsung phone that spontaneously burned? The battery in a car is thousands of times bigger than that, but is based on the same technology. And if THAT was not enough, EVs also have poor resale value, as the batteries that make up a huge chunk of the cost are consumable items that are rated for eight years of life at best.

Eight years old is not that old! I've got a car much older than that, and its gas tank still holds 100% of what it held several decades ago. It has a quarter of a million miles of experience, and it still runs perfectly and gets much more gas mileage than the EPA said it should back in the day. And it only takes five minutes to fill it up, not twenty minutes to over an hour.

EVs cannot replace ICE cars anytime soon, and certainly not by 2035. Not even close. It would be like mandating that only flying cars that one can fold into a briefcase like George Jetson's can be sold by a given date. Setting a date doesn't make something feasible or realistic.

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kertch's avatar

But, but, but ... Buti-giggle promised!

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DrDweeb's avatar

Butt-f*ed is a fool, I saw the interview where he made his foolish statements. What a retard

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kertch's avatar

But he's gay. Gay! Gay people can't do anything wrong, especially gay liberals. Anyone who criticizes him is a homophobic, rascist, zionist, white supremist.

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

Silva, you are a saint for spelling this out for the rest of us. Thank you for taking the time to write this up.

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God Bless America's avatar

Buti-giggleтАж ЁЯдгЁЯдгЁЯдг

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Swabbie Robbie's avatar

Charging stations might be the easy part. Finding the electricity to make all the charging stations be more than roadside sculptures maybe the hard to do part. Maybe building more coal fired facilities?

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kertch's avatar

Ol' Buti-giggle has only built 8 so far. No one never said they were hooked up to the power grid.

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Swabbie Robbie's avatar

Build back mo better, right?

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YM's avatar

They know there can't/won't be enough electricity for them. That's how they control how far we and often we can travel.

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Suzie's avatar

TheyтАЩve installed 7.

TheyтАЩve allocated something like $70b for said project.

Hmmm, wonder where all that money really went?

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kertch's avatar

$7.1B - How DARE you question Buti-giggle! He's gay! Just because he has a secret bank account in Switzerland doesn't mean anything!

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