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Bettina's avatar

Yep, according to my Guardian reading friend (we are in England) the only reason I can't sell my house is because Trump. I mean, where do you go with that level of incoherence?

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Cheryl Palen's avatar

oh EVERYTHING is Trump's fault...!! Don't 'cha know???

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Boatswain Mate's avatar

Old tactic: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

Saul Alinsky

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hojo keceram's avatar

Everyone should read the rules for radicals, not buy the book, but have a copy of what you are up against so you can see it coming from miles away. The left has been acting upon the same old for years now and will never change. Stay safe and may we defeat the transhuman AI NWO agenda

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Boatswain Mate's avatar

Excellent Advice! To "Rules For Radicals", I would add "Reveille For Radicals". Saul's tactics are effective and not restricted in their use to the left. In my opinion the 2016 trump campaign borrowed heavily from Saul. trump still uses this one effectively: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

Saul Alinsky

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Deadladyofclowntown's avatar

All sides use these same techniques, and they are incredibly successful. Crude and effective. Now that we have the internet and social media, it seems to have become 1000 times more effective!

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Boatswain Mate's avatar

Yes, and we live in a DUMBED DOWN time with a more vulnerable people. "161 Copy quote

If we understand the mechanisms and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."

Edward Bernays

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hojo keceram's avatar

the fire with fire instead of fire with taking a knee, the right has been on a knee so long they look like Pelosi doing her scarf/African impersonation and then trying to get up, that was fun to watch because I know what it's like. well stated

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Boatswain Mate's avatar

With a gentleman I am always a gentleman and a half, and with a fraud I try to be a fraud and a half.

Otto von Bismarck

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

It works until it doesn't.

One guy on X asks the question, "Why do you do this when all it does is have us laugh at you?"

I wear the laughter as a badge, and insults as a wreath. If I could, I would wear them as ribbons, each with their insults legibly visible.

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Boatswain Mate's avatar

Kudos! You have a good understanding of how to defeat this tactic. Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.

Thomas Paine

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I can tell that this is what they want to happen, me to engage with the ad hominem. This guy from last night posts with glee people who have blocked him, and others have a meltdown because he has triggered them. I also post screenshots of those who block me, but more of showing that this is their main mode of dealing with disagreement. First, if that doesn't deflect or dismantle it, then they block.

Another guy, who I speculate got frustrated that I would not engage in his behavior of insults and personal attacks, simply went to the next level and was doxxing me, posting pictures of my friends and family and threatening to contact clients. Clients who would read the shocking, horrible thing I said to people that "masks don't work." He is the first person I have reported on X since I joined in 2007.

I suppose I could feel embarrassed about my twenty minutes a day of going through my feed and responding to myriad posts that want the salad days of mask mandates back. The only legitimate criticism I can think they might have is "why waste your time." I simply point to 2020 and the ridiculous mask mandates instituted in the summer of that year.

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Boatswain Mate's avatar

Well, it would seem to me you're adhering to a Thomas Paine dictum: " It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect and expose delusion and error." Thomas Paine The encounters you describe, in my opinion, prove Eric's point: "The hardest thing to cope with is not selfishness or vanity or deceitfulness, but sheer stupidity."

Eric Hoffer

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Bootsorourke's avatar

Yeah that was unbelievable

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Steghorn21's avatar

Or climate change.

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Danielle's avatar

I get the Guardian headlines each day here in Oz just to see what ridiculous things they are saying each day. Watching them justify all the Nut Zero nonsense is highly entertaining.

ЁЯШЙ Know your enemy!

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Buy matching tinfoil hats and buy him a beer at your local watering hole. Then talk about anything but politics.

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