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“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

― C. S. Lewis

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"even the welfare nets themselves were viewed with disdain. people had too much pride to use them and would work fingers to bone rather than mooch off the neighbors. it was seen as shameful"

Maybe Archie was right when he and Edith sang, "didn't need no welfare state, everybody pulled his weight".

The societal product of Archie and Edith were hardworking, faithful, decent and breadwinning citizens. The product of the welfare state were assholes like Mike, and ditzes like Gloria who didn't work, didn't keep a marriage together and looked down their noses at everyone while living rent-free upstairs. Watching the show now, even though Lear probably didn't intend it, you realize Archie was the most real and sympathetic character on the show.

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