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Since it applies here, I’ll repeat the comment I made at the eugyppius post about this:

I think the data coming out of the life/health insurance companies is going to be the wrench that helps the wheels finally detach from the bus. Insurance companies are taking a massive financial hit while funeral company stocks are skyrocketing, and people are starting to notice as per Edward Dowd:

https://rumble.com/vv12ca-february-15-2022.html

PSA: Governor DeSantis has until tomorrow (2/24) to veto HB 7021, which would extend the liability protections hospitals/medical facilities currently receive for implementing murderous COVID protocols.

I’ve published my letter to Gov. DeSantis here:

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-governor-ron-desantis

I’m hoping people will join me in contacting DeSantis with their own messages along with a link to my article if desired.

Emails should be sent to:

FloridaSurgeonGeneral@flhealth.gov

Casey.Smith@eog.myflorida.com

Brandy.Brown@eog.myflorida.com

media@eog.myflorida.com

GovernorRon.Desantis@eog.myflorida.com

More details on how to contact Gov. DeSantis here:

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-governor-ron-desantis/comment/5208984

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I so hope so Margaretannaalice. I do so hope you are right and this is the beginning of the end of these people and the bureaucracies that no longer serve the PUBLIC interest. Take the entire lot of them down.

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Can I take some of this and mail it to my Health Dept and Governor? They are slaughtering people here in New England. Blue States, rundeathisnear and vents only. Ugh.

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PLEASE do! One of the reasons I write these letters is so people can repurpose them and share for their own states/countries/employers/situations. Ideally, I ask that a link to the original article be included for context, but share away as needed.

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Thank you. This abomination on the part of our hospital corporations has to stop and now. And we need to teach them all that following the CDC/NIH/FDA guidelines DO NOT Shield them from LIABILITY.

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Thank you...sent. Not as well spoken as yours but I have done what I can.

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Awesome, thanks, JBK!

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Email sent. Thanks for helping us who might not make the effort to email without these prompts.

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Thanks so much, April!

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In today’s coffee and covid substack article by lawyer Jeff Childers. He has spoken to gov DeSantis’ office who states the governor will not veto this bill. Because of the potential of increase in hospital lawsuits? Sorry not 100% clear on this.

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Great question, Mary Ann! I am planning to add a note about this to the comments of my post but haven’t had a chance yet.

Basically, there appears to be a third option on the table that’s a compromise but would help reduce hospicides by having Florida publish alternative protocols that include early treatment and thus hospitals wouldn’t be locked into using the lethal remdesivir/ventilation guidelines.

Here is Jeff’s post for those who want more details:

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-wednesday-february-df3/

I am still encouraging people to request a veto as hospitals *should* have legal liability for medical murders they commit, but this third option is a step in the right direction if it’s all we get.

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Blocking the ability of people to hold service industries accountable for their actions destroys the feedback mechanism built into the market and encourages risky behavior on the part of the service.

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Yeah, like it or not, we don't actually *want* to put every hospital in the state out of business next week by opening them up to a lawsuit bonanza (gratifying as that might be). DeSantis is considering other options to make space for people to receive better/other treatments in hospitals.

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I don’t know, that sounds like a pretty good idea to me considering they’ve become death camps 😆

They can use the billions they’ve racked in from murder protocol incentives to pay off the lawsuits ;-)

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MAA, I'd agree with you on that, except that we need to keep another factor in mind. That is, the covid lockdowns and restrictions darn near put the health care industry out of business in 2020-21. Many 'elective' surgeries (major cash cow for most facilities) postponed or cancelled; screening procedures the same; basically anyone who could avoid going to a medical facility did, and often to their detriment. The cash the hospitals got from the feds for 'treating' the coof was what kept them alive.

I'm not happy about them doing what they did but another factor also must be considered: once you accept fed money (a few doctors don't, but all facilities of any size do) then you are bound to follow the 'approved protocols' from the feds. For the coof, that was stay home until you can't breathe on your own, then come in and be put on a ventilator and given run-death-is-near. That was all that was approved. A few doctors said to heck with that and did what they thought best, but it was an uphill struggle for them.

Basically the feds put the whole health-care industry (the largest single industry in the USA last I heard) in a pickle of the first magnitude. We need to place the blame where it truly belongs: around the necks of Fauci and his minions. They knew darn well what they were doing; they knew what the consequences were; and they did it anyway. The hospitals and doctors were collateral damage, as was every citizen of every country who followed the same path.

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Right, I realize it isn't pragmatic and believe simply incentivizing positive outcomes instead of negative ones would go a long way toward correcting the system (barring fraudulent data to spin the outcomes as positive).

Even though the tyrants (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-tyrant) bear the ultimate responsibility, they could not have executed their pogrom without the participation of willing colluders (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-colluder-stop-enabling). The colluders need to be penalized, if to a lesser degree, to deter future recurrences.

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Yeah, I get it. Couple weeks ago I went to my doctor for a routine 6-month checkup. No mention of the vax or boosters or any covid crap. Quite a contrast to six months earlier, when he highly recommended anyone my age (68) to get vaxxed. He and I had seen the same preliminary data from Pfizer that showed 95% efficacy.

It was hard for both of us to believe what we've subsequently found out: Pfizer was lying, and so was the FDA, NIAID, HHS, all the alpha soup guys. And they all knew they were lying.

I felt sorry for my doctor, he's a decent fellow who actually looks into things more than many do, and he knew he'd been snookered.

I have a hard time conceiving of any punishment for someone in his position more appropriate than to know that he might have (though with the best of intentions) caused harm to his patients. He will have to carry that burden with him for the rest of his life.

True 'colluders,' maybe different, to the extent that it can be proven that they intentionally harmed their patients.

Full disclosure: my only involvement in the health care system is as a patient. I don't work there or own stocks in any of them or any of that.

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A good friend runs an enormous healthcare network and his quote to me is “The best thing that could ever happen to American healthcare is the destruction of the big hospitals.”

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Haha, your friend would know!

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I want to. What they did should HURT them.

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Yes, they shouldn't be rewarded for knowingly committing medical murders and then shrink back from any responsibility for those actions.

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Revenge sounds great until you need an emergency C-section, or your kid breaks his leg jumping off the top bunk, or you get in a car accident and need surgery for an internal hemorrhage. The walk-in clinic isn't going to handle that. Yes, hospitals are horrible places if you have any kind of illness, and should probably be held criminally responsible for COVID malfeasance. But there are still at least a few necessary services they provide, and I'm not ready to shut them all down.

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This isn’t about revenge; it’s about justice for medical malpractice and murder.

I don’t want the hospitals to be shut down, obviously. I just want positive outcomes to be incentivized, not lethal ones.

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If we go down the path of punishment they would need to be tightly targeted. The "just following orders" defence might not be morally acceptable but it would probably need to be legally valid.

Jail time for all infectious disease doctors/epidemiologists is appropriate. We would be better off without any of them anyway. (Obviously, the "all" doesn't include those few who explicitly argued against this shitshow).

Doctors (the useful ones) who publicly argued for mandatory vaccination will be fined heavily.

A perpetual propaganda campaign to remind doctors and nurses that they are not gods might also be in order.

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You're right in a cosmic sense of course but, whilst DeSantis is one of the best people in the world right now, he is still a politician who needs votes.

Can you imagine what would happen if every hospital in Florida shut down?

His ability to say "I told you so" will only get him so far.

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Understood, but you know that wouldn't happen. More likely, they'd get a bailout and the taxpayers would foot the bill—not a desirable outcome, either.

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Yes, no matter what happens, the taxpayers will foot the bill. Governments have no money of their own -- only the power to take it from us. Government does not build anything, make anything or do anything of intrinsic value. Government is the legal use of force, nothing more and nothing less. One more reason to limit their authority.

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I love you, MAA,

BUT... (always that way, isn't it :-)) As I said on Celia Farber's stack and Rounding the Earth

"Yes, Mathew Crawford (https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/vaccine-induced-mortality-part-9) posted on this also.

I'm just not convinced this means what we hope. There is ample proof that the sheep will continue to ignore, will deny and find others to blame, will act out on their cognitive dissonance.

We all think "Now, they will surely see the light!" I'm guess they will call it darkness."

One can always hope, it springs eternal, but my experience is much much different.

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Not only will they continue to ignore, they will begin to HATE those who did not make the same mistakes they did. Rather than blaming the author of their misery, they will blame those who didn’t buy in. MISERY LOVES COMPANY, far more than most people realize. It will LOVE YOU TO DEATH.

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Good point, hoppah 🤦‍♀️

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Haha, understood, Dana, but I keep hearing examples of people awakening all over the place, especially given the awareness-raising being done by the Freedom Convoys around the world. I continue to have hope :-)

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I love hope!

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The damage that has been done is incredible and deep. But what alternative do we have?

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Inspired by your letter, I emailed a second time, encouraging him that with what his wife went through, he would want a physician who cared for her to be making the best decisions possible and not be handcuffed by bureaucracy.

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Wow, what a poignant and powerful message! Thanks for letting me know!

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You can count on vigorous suppression of this information as it starts to make a dent.

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Every week there's a claim the next piece of data will detach the bus wheels. News flash: the bus is speeding along fine.

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Not disagreeing, but we must fight to get it out there. Do you not see the crises /Cloward Piven hand behind the last 2 years since biden got in office? They are overwhelming the system. And people cannot put 2 and 2 together...they are in a awful mental state, and of course, watching the tv news does not help, as our MSM is totally bought and paid for..not only by big Pharma, but by the WEF.

I don't know how to fight this, we may have already lost, not just the USA, but every Western Democracy. It might already be too late. But maybe, if we keep getting all the information out there - the Jab data, the WEF implants (lists available although taken down by WEF website yesterday) , the no bail attorney's general, the massive illegal invastion at our southern border, the connections between the funds that own 99% of every business - Blackrock, Vanguard, State street - nd their biggest shareholdersThe Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation , the Open Border society, and the clinton foundation/bush foundation, we can take our turn at "overwhelming" the system.

We might not be able to do it on the national stage. But we can start with our neighbors. And even if it is too late, why would you not fight against the dying of the light?

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Overwhelm the system. Glad it's becoming even more obvious.

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You have to keep trying to nail the spokes with you axe.

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Money talks. I hope this is the catalyst.

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I have a huge family there. I passed your note on. Keep punching.

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🙏🥊🙌

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This is why they wanted to destroy the control group.

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This is also why the FDA and Big Pharma are fighting tooth and nail to prevent he release of the many thousands of pages in the EUA for these worthless jabs. Congress has given Big Pharma immunity from liability on any claims for adverse vaccine reactions BUT only in the absence of fraud. I suspect there is plenty of evidence of fraud in these withheld pages. I find it curious as to why the FDA would also be trying to prevent the release unless they are also involved in the fraud.

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Bingo!

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Technicality I suppose, but they DID destroy the control groups from the trials. They wanted to eliminate the control groups in the rest of the population.

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Bingo. They can now conveniently handwave these issues away by blaming it on Covid or any other plausible (and not so plausible) excuse they can come up with.

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btw there is a German site diekontrollgruppe, it's based on asking people, with the usual reliability caveats. But interesting none the less. IIRC in Austria there was something similar but I can't remember it, only heard it in passing

Edit: https://diekontrollgruppe.de

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Alas we live. ; )

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Ze Germans are quite the combination of hysteria and precision.

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In German schools, they used to teach something called Zivilcourage, which means courage of convictions, especially in the face of pressure to keep quiet. Its importance was understood in the post-Nazi time, as something that could keep history from repeating. Andreas Schöfbeck, the insurance CEO, is a role model for the concept.

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That is an awesome thing to learn about, thank you.

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"reichstag liar"

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Love the Bez, thanks for the warning, some listened

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Right in the middle of my range of prediction from 8 months ago.

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality

Never let them tell you that we could not have known.

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And this appears to just be acute side effects.

We're not even talking yet about long term chronic effects like cancer, infertility, and immune disorders.

It's going to be a scandal indeed and lots of people are going to want to blame someone.

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I fully expect a bunch of long term side effects, as per the FDA itself; the page that detailed them has, of course, been disappeared.

However, I don't expect anyone to connect the dots. Even if the doctors suspect it, they will simply keep their mouths shut, just like they have kept their mouths shut about HCQ and Ivermectin. The doctors have a lifestyle to maintain you see, and can't risk their license. So people will die, and many will never figure out that they took their own poison death jab.

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Will be interesting to see if life expectancy ages start decreasing over the next decade

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The doctors took it too

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No wonder Brandon is blaming Putin for everything bad in America and beating war drums. They certainly can't have the riff raff finding out that they've been hoodwinked for over 2 years. "Nothing to see here, look over there at that evil Russia!"

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Putin will do much less damage to human health globally.

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Apparently, the insurance company CEO requested a response to his concerns by 6 pm yesterday (Tuesday) from German government agencies. He is going public now because they didn't answer.

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Gut gemacht!

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Yeah I think the CDC/FDA/Fauci et al. failed to take into account that life insurers, many of whom are public cos, will report the data as accurately as possible because the are required to do so. None will risk violating securities laws. Canary hell it's a gorilla.

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Or they didn't get a big enough cut of the heist.

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Not only that....the US insurance industry employs the best actuaries in the world. If there is a problem, it won't take them long to get to the bottom of it. (Oddly enough, the second best actuaries in the world work at the Social Security Administration. I have crossed professional paths with people from OACT for years and if I was charged with the task of proving that not all government employees are lazy morons, they would be my Exhibit A.)

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Do you think this will help anyone not already firmly on Team Vax4evah see anything differently? I have so, so little faith in that.

What I do have faith on is that you need to keep this up, Gato. This truth WILL continue to leaven the bread and make it sweeter. That's what truth does.

https://bherr.substack.com/p/gmo-vaccine-and-cognitive-dissonance?utm_source=url

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Corporately I don’t think so. Looking at you Coca-Cola, Hershey, Facebook, Sonos and ADI amongst many others. But let’s hope the leaven works!

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corporations might change their tune when their insurance rates start skyrocketing because of this

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"Team Vax4evah"

Branch Covidians

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*If* we ever get corroboration in the US, it will come from analyzing Medicare data. Unlike the fractured and incomplete records available for vaccinations that were covered by private health insurance -- such as EPIC -- the services and Dx codes for Medicare beneficiaries are all in one place and all uniformly coded.

The problem is -- independent researchers have to have approved data use agreements in place to access Medicare data. And it's HHS that grants those approvals. I'm guessing that the parent organization of CMS, NIH, FDA, and CDC is *not* going to be in a hurry to let those rocks be turned over.

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A private insurer in Indiana had enough of its own rocks to turn over to tell that there was a rat hiding somewhere. IIRC it was something like an unexplained 40% increase in ACM (all cause mortality, a term I never in a million years would have thought I would learn) in the 25-49 cohort. This is coming out. The only question is what happens then.

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A couple of the Medicare advantage insurers in the US have over a million members. UHG has 3M. The sample size is smaller than what you'd find in the CMS data warehouse, but that's still enough to see something... and the incentive to look for a signal is a lot bigger.

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It would certainly be worth looking at. The CMS enrollment database at any given time is just shy of 60 million beneficiaries. MA trends younger and healthier than the Medicare population as a whole, but yes...it would be a start, and easier to set into motion than a full-scale audit of the entire Medicare population.

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Nice to run into some CMS-literate people on this substack! I used to work there. It was an eye-opening experience that started me on the road to questioning many things.

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May this be the only time I feel moved to rebuke you. The thalidomide tragedy can never look like "forgetting your house keys." It was a monstrous horror but, because of the purpose of the drug, restricted to a segment of the population. This is a monstrous horror affecting everyone.

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Criticism isn't warranted. It was a literary comparison, showing relative magnitudes. A horror was needed in order to provide scale to a much greater one. If the Thalidomide blunder was seen as trivial, exceeding it would also be trivial. Instead, the comparison reinforces the event's significance, bringing it back into our consciousness as a prime example of pharmaceutical error.

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Even the most agile of cats can reach a whisker's breadth too far.

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while I agree with you at this point on the thalidomide horror in comparison to what we are experiencing now.... we are only two years into this covid ordeal with wide spread forced vaccines.

In the next few years I believe there will be the vulnerable, the ones that never should have had this wretched vaxx that might be counted as victims but perhaps just ignored. Big Pharma has a huge ego at this point. Look at all the drugs they sell on tv every day. Most of these drugs are just as monstrously horrible as well. Pharma pushes doctors to offer the pills to patients.

As always, be the boss of your body, be your child's or parent's advocate. There are doctors that freely prescribe new meds because they bought the big sell.

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It's useful to restore to our vocabularies words like "equally" and "comparable."

And the issue is the brutal coercion. Most people can't afford to risk their jobs. Most parents can't afford to lose tuition payments already made when the schools demanded vax and and then boosters. Imagine the feelings of those who got the vax because they received "last warning" letters and now their institutions have dropped their mandates. The feeling of enraged betrayal must be unimaginable.

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I agree with SCA it jarrs a little. ElGato has a near perfect blend of humour, intelligence, and wit in my opinion, but better off leaving the funny analogies away from people who had to live their whole lives with deformed stumps for limbs.

At the global species level even the combined COVID and Vax numbers are a triviality.

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True. Just as AZT was repurposed onto a small population segment. Both trial runs for this operation.

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Off -topic, but I wanted to briefly report on the launch event for the People'sConvoy, which left this morning from Adelanto, CA and is heading east. My family and were heartened by well over a thousand people and as many vehicles, all gathered in the parking lot of a baseball stadium. Not bad for a very cold, Wed. am. out in the High Desert. Short speeches by attorney Leah Dundas (?), Dr. Pierre Kory and Dr. Paul Alexander, as well as by a pastor and a lead trucker organizer. Well organized event with a lot of positive energy. Convoy headed east shortly before Noon with the first stop in Kingman, AZ this evening. Hard to estimate the number of vehicles that left in the convoy, but definitely several hundred, with approx. 50-70 big rigs. Could easily see it collect a lot of support along the route as it travel east. A few specific notes:

Drs. Kory and Alexander (who we all greatly respect) were excellent, and were very hard hitting in their criticism of the "vaccines."

The attorney who led off the event, made explicitly clear that this convoy was not going into to DC proper and would not be involved in confrontations with authorities, etc. Essentially, it is a massive P.R. campaign, rather than a confrontational direct action. Probably a good strategy given the foreseeable overreactions by federal authorities and propaganda smear effort by the media.

Local police were actively assisting the convoy by directing traffic to allow vehicles to stay together to reach interstate. Convoy organizers stated that they were actively coordinating with law enforcement authorities throughout the country to ensure a smooth operation. Also, stated that the convoy was utilizing security and logistic experts.

Overall, a positive event and one that should give all of us a bit more optimism that the American tradition of healthy defiance to overreaching governmental authority is still alive and well. Let's hope it continues to grow.

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"this is going to be one of the great scandals in human history. it will make thalidomide look like forgetting your house keys"

yup. So the question now is what are they going to do to distract from this. They will have to because it's not like we are just looking at Pfizer becoming a penny stock. lol

They're going hard for the digital prison in commonwealth countries but I don't think they can roll that out fast enough in the US

Feels like they're going to need a massive distraction like covid was supposed to cover as a massive distraction from the unfunded liability crisis. A cyberpandemic, a war, or some other seriously major destabilizing catastrophe will need to be rolled out in order to consolidate power, because this is bigger than just corporate fraud of the type by Pfizer for decades, it's "we the people are coming with pitchforks and torches and the leaders are going to be strung up on lampposts"

Lampposts through and through.

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Hey I know! Declare a super duper state of emergency. Insurance companies are mass murderers, terrorists, and insurrectionists! Take away their children and pets! Seize their assets! Arrest them, lock them all up, and throw away the keys! REEEEEE!!!!

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war for sure since war kills a lot of people in the 18-40 age range, which will cover up many of the vaccine side effects and deaths

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Martial law means the boosters are working!

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There is a wsj article on insurers facing a huge increase in non-covid deaths starting third quarter 2021 (fourth quarter not available yet.) top causes of death heart, circulatory and neurological disorders. They attribute them to covid itself, and delayed care (all started in the fall of 2021 for some reason.)

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Which is complete horseshit because the age of the people dying are NOT the ages of the people dying of covid. (At least in the case of Indiana's numbers)

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Correct. Which is why there were desperate to vaccinate everyone, so they could get away with the 'it was Covid that did this' argument.

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At this point, we pretty much have figured out via induction the corporate press' algorithm for dealing with inconvenient realities. First, ignore it. After it can't be ignored any longer, distract the public with something else or shoot the messengers, whichever is most feasible. Or do both. If distraction or cancelling don't work, discretely switch jerseys and pretend like everyone knew it the whole time, but don't adjust to any of the implications.

Thus, you heard it here first: six weeks from now, we'll see a headline of "Anti-vaxxers may be right about the mRNA vaccine safety profile. Here's why everyone should get vaccinated or re-boosted anyway."

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