Incompetence does not mean there was no internal or external control/manipulation. In fact, an insider who knew what a fuster cluck the security arrangements were or were likely to be is something that clearly needs to be examined carefully...but very likely won't be.
Like one head officer who says "It's too dang hot on the roof, we can see just as well and aim through these windows if we need to and the AC in here feels pretty good!"
Exactly. If it was just an issue of " zone security ", incompetence could be a stand alone option. But, a BIG BUT, when you add in factors such as - ....by any means necessary, Trump cannot be...., or, that the shooter fits the profile - manipulated loner, drugged?, known to and used by intel agencies/operators, or that the shooter knew to access that location and have a ladder somewhere accessible -as if he was provided those details, pre-planning and prior scouting has never been a strong suit for impulse actors. There's a point where B.S. is an acceptable conclusion, without adding on the TOTAL LACK OF credibility of Fed investigating agencies.
THIS. This is what I keep thinking. The SS are highly trained and would know for certain that less trained and less experienced local small town cops not routinely exposed to this level of security would indeed cause a weak link, and the head of SS could easily take advantage of that if she wanted to, letting the cacophony of errors fall where they may and onto blaming local law enforcement.
I see how the тАЬstupidityтАЭ angle can assuage a sinister plot, but only if the SS were stupid too, or if not then intentional.
That's why there should be a SS agent at each zone location. Someone needs to coordinate the security. If the middle or outer zone discovers a threat, they need to immediately inform the inner zone so the VIP can be brought to a safe place. If they are not doing this, they are not security professionals. A SS agent would have told the local PD, "Yeah, its hot. So rotate your rooftop observers, but never leave the spot empty." Proper defense in depth requires communication between the zones.
The SS is stupid was basically the point of this essay. Highly trained according to whom?? I saw video of an overweight woman that couldnтАЩt holster her pistol, and 2 ponytailed women that seemed pretty much clueless, and they were the ones closest to trump. They also allowed trump to stand back up for the fist pump, before the threat was for sure taken care of, which while making great theater should have been a no go. We are an unserious country with unserious people at the helm.
Gotta agree with you on this. The Ponytail Posse was classic Keystone Kops. тАЬHow do I get this thing back into its holster?тАЭ тАЬGotta get my shades back on so I look official!тАЭ тАЬWhich way did he go, George?тАЭ тАЬI REALLY need to get into shape!тАЭ
It was ridiculous. The agent that appeared like she was trying to hide under Trump created a perfect head shot. And the rest of them dancing around the limo wasтАжwell, you knowтАжthe thing.
an aside..but shouldn't we Americans or anyone in the world really have a team or a division that can be shortened to "SS?" You would think we would have seen this coming. Like the UK when they decided to start a Krispy Kreme Klub to further promote those donuts in their country. These are not good ideas.
You are the first person to say what I have been thinking this entire time. I used to work as a translator and one company had a T&A abbreviation in their text which I flagged and explained that would not fly for their target audience. They were of course pleased with my attention to detail.
I don't even like the term "unserious" when silly or ridiculous works just as easily.Then again, I wasn't onboard with "incentivize" when "motivate" was already in our parlance.
Very true. And with this new info that gato shared from bravo kilo, all it would take for an assassination conspiracy is one of the local swat snipers to be in on it say "Whew! It's way to hot up here!" and effectively replace himself with the assassin...
Incompetence does not mean there was no internal or external control/manipulation. In fact, an insider who knew what a fuster cluck the security arrangements were or were likely to be is something that clearly needs to be examined carefully...but very likely won't be.
It only took one "inside" person with info or deliberately planning for a softness in the zone...or just looking away...or guilt by ommission.
Like one head officer who says "It's too dang hot on the roof, we can see just as well and aim through these windows if we need to and the AC in here feels pretty good!"
one word: Uvalde
I was thinking same.
My husband and I talking about homes still without power in Houston. How trimming trees and asking for help somehow was skipped.
That thought had occurred Saturday eve, over here.
Exactly. If it was just an issue of " zone security ", incompetence could be a stand alone option. But, a BIG BUT, when you add in factors such as - ....by any means necessary, Trump cannot be...., or, that the shooter fits the profile - manipulated loner, drugged?, known to and used by intel agencies/operators, or that the shooter knew to access that location and have a ladder somewhere accessible -as if he was provided those details, pre-planning and prior scouting has never been a strong suit for impulse actors. There's a point where B.S. is an acceptable conclusion, without adding on the TOTAL LACK OF credibility of Fed investigating agencies.
Whenever we do IT Security Refresher Training they always start with Physical Security.
It doesn't have to be too sophisticated if someone can just wander on in like they own the place.
In this case...simply not looking up.
THIS. This is what I keep thinking. The SS are highly trained and would know for certain that less trained and less experienced local small town cops not routinely exposed to this level of security would indeed cause a weak link, and the head of SS could easily take advantage of that if she wanted to, letting the cacophony of errors fall where they may and onto blaming local law enforcement.
I see how the тАЬstupidityтАЭ angle can assuage a sinister plot, but only if the SS were stupid too, or if not then intentional.
That's why there should be a SS agent at each zone location. Someone needs to coordinate the security. If the middle or outer zone discovers a threat, they need to immediately inform the inner zone so the VIP can be brought to a safe place. If they are not doing this, they are not security professionals. A SS agent would have told the local PD, "Yeah, its hot. So rotate your rooftop observers, but never leave the spot empty." Proper defense in depth requires communication between the zones.
The SS is stupid was basically the point of this essay. Highly trained according to whom?? I saw video of an overweight woman that couldnтАЩt holster her pistol, and 2 ponytailed women that seemed pretty much clueless, and they were the ones closest to trump. They also allowed trump to stand back up for the fist pump, before the threat was for sure taken care of, which while making great theater should have been a no go. We are an unserious country with unserious people at the helm.
Gotta agree with you on this. The Ponytail Posse was classic Keystone Kops. тАЬHow do I get this thing back into its holster?тАЭ тАЬGotta get my shades back on so I look official!тАЭ тАЬWhich way did he go, George?тАЭ тАЬI REALLY need to get into shape!тАЭ
It was ridiculous. The agent that appeared like she was trying to hide under Trump created a perfect head shot. And the rest of them dancing around the limo wasтАжwell, you knowтАжthe thing.
If someone told me that was Melissa McCarthy, Tina fey and Kristen wiig filming a new movie called тАЬSecret Service ChicksтАЭ IтАЩd believe them.
lol, like
an aside..but shouldn't we Americans or anyone in the world really have a team or a division that can be shortened to "SS?" You would think we would have seen this coming. Like the UK when they decided to start a Krispy Kreme Klub to further promote those donuts in their country. These are not good ideas.
You are the first person to say what I have been thinking this entire time. I used to work as a translator and one company had a T&A abbreviation in their text which I flagged and explained that would not fly for their target audience. They were of course pleased with my attention to detail.
I don't even like the term "unserious" when silly or ridiculous works just as easily.Then again, I wasn't onboard with "incentivize" when "motivate" was already in our parlance.
"The SS are highly trained..."
Facts not in evidence!
I'm not so sure about Highly trained anymore....when it comes to any Government employeesЁЯШБ
100 million % spot on!!
Very true. And with this new info that gato shared from bravo kilo, all it would take for an assassination conspiracy is one of the local swat snipers to be in on it say "Whew! It's way to hot up here!" and effectively replace himself with the assassin...