Bullies desire power over others because they fear others having power over them. Calling people weaklings just exacerbates within you the logic and potency of Power, and so you will never be free of the cycle of violence endemic to the logic of Power.
"Standing up" is not the same thing as bullying someone you regard as weak. I try to imagine Jesus on the Cross making fun of the criminals next to him or mocking some little kid with a club foot, or imagine Buddha crushing stink bugs or gnats because they're smaller and interrupting his peacefulness under the tree, and such images don't strike me as the kind of morality or divinity or compassion for others that undermines the logic of Power. You might disagree, and maybe your Jesus is the one who comes back with horses, scythes, and the darkening of the skies and bathes the world in an ocean of blood four feet deep —that's a Jesus many people like to believe returns triumphant, victorious, and finally settles the score for all the losers and weaklings and bullied who suffer oppression from the bullies, the tyrants, and the cunning.
Either way, I appreciate that you want to change things and see the systemic violence of suppression and corruption end. I am just not sure that Power will help you, when it was Power that got us here in the first place.
the whole reason we are in this situation is due to people being complicit and letting everyone else do what they want. If people stood up and berated these dummies a year ago we might be done with this idiocy.
I give my big boss looks every day. Today she caught me in the lunchroom explaining the origin of the bioweapon virus to a receptive coworker. It’s amazing that people still don’t know this stuff. Not sure but boss said nothing and almost seemed reluctant to say anything. We’ll see. None of them will ever truly apologize, all I’m waiting on is the backpedaling.
Oh and ps I’ve NEVER ever been a conspiracy theorist nor am I one now, this is not Theory. While the absolute proof may never be found there’s enough for the courts definition of “beyond reasonable doubt”. IMHO.
You're confusing me, Doug. I thought all of us enemies of mask mandates, vaccine mandates, etc. were on the side of letting everyone do what they want.
I see. So, of all the bullies you know from the time you've been alive, how many in berating others actually did end the idiocy around them? How many of the bullies you've known were actually the good people who lived out their values and inspired others to become compassionate and caring and thoughtful people?
Think of just yourself. When the people who try to bully and ridicule you into mask complaince try it on you, does it work? Do you think someone bullying you and ridiculing you and humiliating you ever will work to change you?
Or will it just make you comply yourself to get over with it? Or will it make you more resistant and angry and frustrated and less likely to agree with them?
I don't think you're thinking it through, but then since you're advocating bullying people into ending a political situation you do not like, you're being consistent with the logic. You want Power to force others to change into people whom you can tolerate, or at least be indifferent towards. Bullying and ridiculing people is what you have available, since you are not on the side who has the monopoly on violence. So, unless you shake off the logic of Power and recognize it for what it is doing to your soul, you won't see how you're part of the world that promotes and fosters "this idiocy."
Not all of the complicit are the compliant. Some of the complicit are the ones who believe they most defy it.
Not sure what you're saying are not the same things. Doug says it's time to bring back bullying and bully the ever living fuck out of people. That's what I'm talking about, so it's not clear what's not the same thing to bullying.
"Not complying" is not the same thing as "bullying the ever living fuck out of people." Not attending a sportsball or stagedance event that mandates masks/vaxxes is not the same thing as "bullying the ever living fuck out of people" but it is also consistent with "not complying." Leaving behind the society that's gone insane is not "bullying the ever living fuck out of people" but it is "not complying."
Have you ever changed your own mind after someone has treated you with contempt? Have you ever chosen to live your life the way the contemptuous wanted you to? Even if you had chosen that life, did you do so because you saw the right of it after they had shown you contempt?
There is more to this world than doing the things you want to do. You are growing and nurturing a soul, and holding others in contempt or beneath you and acting upon that hinders your progress and your capacity for love —especially love for *yourself*.
Now, you might not accept that perspective and disagree: understandable. But I'm sure you've known many times in your life where you saw people doing what they felt was good and enjoyed mocking or treating others with contempt, but you were able to see right into their core and recoiled. I've never known a single contemptuous person who modeled decency, honor, compassion, thoughtfulness, or cared for those too muddled to make it through to help them through it. Have you ever known a contemptuous person who inspired confidence and courage in the people around them?
Bullies desire power over others because they fear others having power over them. Calling people weaklings just exacerbates within you the logic and potency of Power, and so you will never be free of the cycle of violence endemic to the logic of Power.
"Standing up" is not the same thing as bullying someone you regard as weak. I try to imagine Jesus on the Cross making fun of the criminals next to him or mocking some little kid with a club foot, or imagine Buddha crushing stink bugs or gnats because they're smaller and interrupting his peacefulness under the tree, and such images don't strike me as the kind of morality or divinity or compassion for others that undermines the logic of Power. You might disagree, and maybe your Jesus is the one who comes back with horses, scythes, and the darkening of the skies and bathes the world in an ocean of blood four feet deep —that's a Jesus many people like to believe returns triumphant, victorious, and finally settles the score for all the losers and weaklings and bullied who suffer oppression from the bullies, the tyrants, and the cunning.
Either way, I appreciate that you want to change things and see the systemic violence of suppression and corruption end. I am just not sure that Power will help you, when it was Power that got us here in the first place.
the whole reason we are in this situation is due to people being complicit and letting everyone else do what they want. If people stood up and berated these dummies a year ago we might be done with this idiocy.
I give my big boss looks every day. Today she caught me in the lunchroom explaining the origin of the bioweapon virus to a receptive coworker. It’s amazing that people still don’t know this stuff. Not sure but boss said nothing and almost seemed reluctant to say anything. We’ll see. None of them will ever truly apologize, all I’m waiting on is the backpedaling.
Oh and ps I’ve NEVER ever been a conspiracy theorist nor am I one now, this is not Theory. While the absolute proof may never be found there’s enough for the courts definition of “beyond reasonable doubt”. IMHO.
You're confusing me, Doug. I thought all of us enemies of mask mandates, vaccine mandates, etc. were on the side of letting everyone do what they want.
I see. So, of all the bullies you know from the time you've been alive, how many in berating others actually did end the idiocy around them? How many of the bullies you've known were actually the good people who lived out their values and inspired others to become compassionate and caring and thoughtful people?
Think of just yourself. When the people who try to bully and ridicule you into mask complaince try it on you, does it work? Do you think someone bullying you and ridiculing you and humiliating you ever will work to change you?
Or will it just make you comply yourself to get over with it? Or will it make you more resistant and angry and frustrated and less likely to agree with them?
I don't think you're thinking it through, but then since you're advocating bullying people into ending a political situation you do not like, you're being consistent with the logic. You want Power to force others to change into people whom you can tolerate, or at least be indifferent towards. Bullying and ridiculing people is what you have available, since you are not on the side who has the monopoly on violence. So, unless you shake off the logic of Power and recognize it for what it is doing to your soul, you won't see how you're part of the world that promotes and fosters "this idiocy."
Not all of the complicit are the compliant. Some of the complicit are the ones who believe they most defy it.
If everyone can do what they want, then what do you feel you're being forced to do?
my kids have to wear a mask to go to public school or on a plane. Neither of those rules actually accomplish anything.
Not the same thing. To comply is to be complicit, and those complicit should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
Not sure what you're saying are not the same things. Doug says it's time to bring back bullying and bully the ever living fuck out of people. That's what I'm talking about, so it's not clear what's not the same thing to bullying.
"Not complying" is not the same thing as "bullying the ever living fuck out of people." Not attending a sportsball or stagedance event that mandates masks/vaxxes is not the same thing as "bullying the ever living fuck out of people" but it is also consistent with "not complying." Leaving behind the society that's gone insane is not "bullying the ever living fuck out of people" but it is "not complying."
Have you ever changed your own mind after someone has treated you with contempt? Have you ever chosen to live your life the way the contemptuous wanted you to? Even if you had chosen that life, did you do so because you saw the right of it after they had shown you contempt?
There is more to this world than doing the things you want to do. You are growing and nurturing a soul, and holding others in contempt or beneath you and acting upon that hinders your progress and your capacity for love —especially love for *yourself*.
Now, you might not accept that perspective and disagree: understandable. But I'm sure you've known many times in your life where you saw people doing what they felt was good and enjoyed mocking or treating others with contempt, but you were able to see right into their core and recoiled. I've never known a single contemptuous person who modeled decency, honor, compassion, thoughtfulness, or cared for those too muddled to make it through to help them through it. Have you ever known a contemptuous person who inspired confidence and courage in the people around them?