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If vaccines don't work well for immune compromised then doesn't the burden rest even more so on the healthy, unvaccinated to check th spread?

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No, I did not and do not intend to because I think flu is a well known disease whereas covid is not. I was honestly asking. Please don't mock.

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Precautionary principal must be utilized in an unknown situation. Mass vaccination seems like a precautionary measure.

And unfortunately in a pandemic risk can't always be discussed in terms of the individual.

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the precautionary principle warns against taking rash and expensive actions when you have no idea if they work or what the outcome should be.

it's hardly precautionary to start shooting blindly into a dark room because you heard a noise.

it's a horrendously misused notion and has been abused badly around covid

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Are vaccines really a rash move? Vaccines in general are known to work reasonably well aren't they? Lockdowns, masks etc I agree have caused more harm imo.

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Well we have used vaccines before with reasonable success. And according Gato's own articles and references they appear to be working well for covid also. So I wouldn't call it unknown benefit. Also--not sure if it's in this article or another one--Gato mentions x300 risk of side effects for young folks vs risk against bad covid. Is that what you are referring to by risk? If so, in absolute terms what is the risk of bad side effects from vaccine? Could it still be miniscule enough and yet yield good protection for community as a whole which also consists of the weak and vulnerable? I don't have an answer. I am just asking if Gato et al have a take on it.

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