I love the Popeye reference, by the way, with"Edumacation."
I don't have any credentials to back up my knowledge that masks are ineffective. All I have is observation and common sense.The common sense part is simply asking the question "Why haven't we worn masks for other airborne viruses?"
I did get a few people who would send me aggregate studies on the efficacy of masks. Most of these studies were observational or done in a laboratory settling. They did not use the gold standard study like the Danish study which was inconclusive as to how awesome masks were.
I agree with you. I think a lot of advanced education studies like getting a master's and doctorate are all teaching the person how to not only to process indoctrination, but pass it on. This also leaks into government (no surprise) because there is a high correlation between the educational and governmental system. Thus I had close members of my family both conservative and democrat who both visited me wearing masks. And my conservative family member encouraged me that if the choice were between not getting a job and accepting the vaccine, I should accept the vaccine. I can't tell you how devastating it was to hear them say that.
I laughed in the face of fact checkers and bias sites like snopes, as if they are an unbiased source capable of making those determinations. There is no such thing as unbiased, which is why I question a lot of what I see in the world. I am adamant on both sides against ad hominem attacks. I don't want to accuse one side as being "sheep" any more than I like to be called a "terrorist" for disagreeing with the mainstream narrative. And what is constructive end game? My close family members are smart people who have been subjected to many hours of indoctrination.
One of the first roadblocks I ran into when commenting on others posts about "wearing the damn mask" or "take the vaccine" was to give them information only to be asked "Where is your source?" I learned that what I had to do at that point is track down the original study or paper, if not the CDC's own data to back up my claims as any site that had any dissent to the mainstream narrative was considered "misinformation."
The edjumacated have great disdain for education. Paraphrasing Einstein, education does not teach what to think, but how to think. The edjumacated teaching our kids today are certainly not teaching them how to think. The edjumacated disdain all education except their own, such as it is. I tell them I have been certified in respirator use and they say, “Well I have a Master’s degree/PHD.” Yes, but not in a field that would give them knowledge of masks, filtration, industrial hygiene and the like.
The way they use studies as if a trump card in a card game is a big tell that they do not know or recall the utility and limitations of studies. Studies are meaningless unless replicated, and dismally few are today. Most importantly, the results must then be found outside the laboratory. Not only, as you pointed out, is it a question of why masks have not been worn against airborne viruses in the hundred years since the Spanish flu; Tokyo, Japan, where I live, has had a statistically 100% compliance with mask usage indoors and outdoors for over 2 and 1/2 years. Yet, the 7th wave of this disease just passed us during which we had the highest case load on the entire planet. As the weather here has turned chilly as it does in November, the case counts are once again on the rise, the start of the 8th wave? Yet “masks work”. This is willful blindness.
My training, certification and experience with filtration and respirators not being accepted, I too dug up sources from agencies they use as sources. The CDC, WHO and European Union equivalents have all published papers on the ineffectiveness of masks against airborne virus, mainly the flu. I added these to a paper that listed over 40 prepanic studies on masks. No effect. One nurse told me that they were expired. Anything older than 5 years is automatically discounted as out of date. Better hope they have published a study on gravity with in the past 5 years, I told her, or else we will all soon be floating about in outer space. Then I pointed out that some of those studies were current by her standards. No reply from this nurse.
They keep moving the goal post. First, they demand you use only their accepted sources. When you do, they then discount them because they are out of out of date. When you provide ones within this small window of human knowledge and experience, they get really creative. Had at least one person discount a study on some aspect of this because when they googled the doctor they found she was a Christian. In that person’s excuse for a mind, this disqualified her despite her education, experience and achievements.
I once hated hearing people, anyone or group, being labeled as sheeple. Too harsh and not conducive to dialogue. After the past 2 years, I find I was incorrect. There is no engaging these people unless you are willing to march in lockstep in everything they think and do. Just look at quickly and viciously they attack their own who stay even briefly from the flock’s group think.
I love the Popeye reference, by the way, with"Edumacation."
I don't have any credentials to back up my knowledge that masks are ineffective. All I have is observation and common sense.The common sense part is simply asking the question "Why haven't we worn masks for other airborne viruses?"
I did get a few people who would send me aggregate studies on the efficacy of masks. Most of these studies were observational or done in a laboratory settling. They did not use the gold standard study like the Danish study which was inconclusive as to how awesome masks were.
I agree with you. I think a lot of advanced education studies like getting a master's and doctorate are all teaching the person how to not only to process indoctrination, but pass it on. This also leaks into government (no surprise) because there is a high correlation between the educational and governmental system. Thus I had close members of my family both conservative and democrat who both visited me wearing masks. And my conservative family member encouraged me that if the choice were between not getting a job and accepting the vaccine, I should accept the vaccine. I can't tell you how devastating it was to hear them say that.
I laughed in the face of fact checkers and bias sites like snopes, as if they are an unbiased source capable of making those determinations. There is no such thing as unbiased, which is why I question a lot of what I see in the world. I am adamant on both sides against ad hominem attacks. I don't want to accuse one side as being "sheep" any more than I like to be called a "terrorist" for disagreeing with the mainstream narrative. And what is constructive end game? My close family members are smart people who have been subjected to many hours of indoctrination.
One of the first roadblocks I ran into when commenting on others posts about "wearing the damn mask" or "take the vaccine" was to give them information only to be asked "Where is your source?" I learned that what I had to do at that point is track down the original study or paper, if not the CDC's own data to back up my claims as any site that had any dissent to the mainstream narrative was considered "misinformation."
The edjumacated have great disdain for education. Paraphrasing Einstein, education does not teach what to think, but how to think. The edjumacated teaching our kids today are certainly not teaching them how to think. The edjumacated disdain all education except their own, such as it is. I tell them I have been certified in respirator use and they say, “Well I have a Master’s degree/PHD.” Yes, but not in a field that would give them knowledge of masks, filtration, industrial hygiene and the like.
The way they use studies as if a trump card in a card game is a big tell that they do not know or recall the utility and limitations of studies. Studies are meaningless unless replicated, and dismally few are today. Most importantly, the results must then be found outside the laboratory. Not only, as you pointed out, is it a question of why masks have not been worn against airborne viruses in the hundred years since the Spanish flu; Tokyo, Japan, where I live, has had a statistically 100% compliance with mask usage indoors and outdoors for over 2 and 1/2 years. Yet, the 7th wave of this disease just passed us during which we had the highest case load on the entire planet. As the weather here has turned chilly as it does in November, the case counts are once again on the rise, the start of the 8th wave? Yet “masks work”. This is willful blindness.
My training, certification and experience with filtration and respirators not being accepted, I too dug up sources from agencies they use as sources. The CDC, WHO and European Union equivalents have all published papers on the ineffectiveness of masks against airborne virus, mainly the flu. I added these to a paper that listed over 40 prepanic studies on masks. No effect. One nurse told me that they were expired. Anything older than 5 years is automatically discounted as out of date. Better hope they have published a study on gravity with in the past 5 years, I told her, or else we will all soon be floating about in outer space. Then I pointed out that some of those studies were current by her standards. No reply from this nurse.
They keep moving the goal post. First, they demand you use only their accepted sources. When you do, they then discount them because they are out of out of date. When you provide ones within this small window of human knowledge and experience, they get really creative. Had at least one person discount a study on some aspect of this because when they googled the doctor they found she was a Christian. In that person’s excuse for a mind, this disqualified her despite her education, experience and achievements.
I once hated hearing people, anyone or group, being labeled as sheeple. Too harsh and not conducive to dialogue. After the past 2 years, I find I was incorrect. There is no engaging these people unless you are willing to march in lockstep in everything they think and do. Just look at quickly and viciously they attack their own who stay even briefly from the flock’s group think.