excuse me miss lady, i am just a kitten and not an internet doctor or anything, but i’m pretty sure that if they stop testing all the people who aren’t sick that it would probably stop the dystopian merry-go-round altogether.
because that’s what got us onto this crazy thing in the first place, in case you didn’t know!
That was the answer all along, ESPECIALLY after we found out the virus was already far more widespread than we thought. That was in April, 2020.
There's a reason we don't test healthy people for traces of the flu and then quarantine them while tracking down all their recent contacts. It's an idea so monumentally stupid that only government would actually do it.
I would ask the doctor Dewald what I have asked all my esteemed colleagues (MDs) since March 2020: Have you ever done a mono test, or flu test, or mycoplasma, or Dengue, or RSV... on anyone who was not sick? We never do that in medicine. They invented that practice with covid...
You don't have to be intellectually gifted to be a Doctor. You just have to know how to memorize really well. And then to learn how to follow 'the standard of care' regardless of any important evidence to the contrary. This Doctor seems too be a shining example of this...
Yes but it is convienent to stop now that the vaccine looks terrible. They did not care when they were testing the unvaccinated that weren't sick in order to afford rent. They will continue to do so even if they stop testing the vaccinated who aren't sick in order to make the vaccine look better and justify eternal tests on the unvaccinated. I'd rather this continues for now, until every shred of faith in the vaccine is burned to the ground.
That was the plan from the start. Test for a virus with fraudulent testing and scare the shit out of everyone so they stand in line to be poisoned. Hitler told them to stand in line to get a shower to clean off the lice.
I will qualify that. Gates plan from the start. The greedy sheep followed.
* Massive population reduction, a eugenics plan – in part through vaccination and other means (Ref. Bill Gates, “if we are doing a real good job vaccinating, we may reduce the world population by 10% to 15%”. See “Innovating to Zero!” speech to the TED2010 annual conference, Long Beach, California, February 18, 2010).
- YouTube......which is another site that is now removed were Gates said, I quote exactly from his speech:
“If we do a good job on vaccines, health and reproduction, we can reduce the world population by 10-15%. Only a genocide can save the world”.
Most docs are too afraid of losing their licenses or being punished for prescribing early outpatient treatments. What possible good does any testing do when that is the case? It's best to start an early outpatient treatment program on your own. If it doesn't work, you're no worse off. You still go to the hospital. There you will be tested. If you have covid, you are where you would be anyway. If the treatment works or you never get that ill, you saved a few days at a minimum when days are important in early treatment.
Not only the pcr... ANY laboratory test will give you a high percentage of false positives if you do it on someone who is not sick. PCRs are only worse. That is why in medicine we have never done tests for acute diseases on people who are not sick. We do tests on asymptomatic individuals for SOME (very few) CHRONIC diseases. It is called screening or early detection, and it is done for a completely different purpose. It is a different subject altogether.
I believe the FDA quietly posted on their website last summer that the PCR test was inaccurate and would be phased out on exactly December 31, 2021. Funny how they're nailing that timing?
If I would have just thought of starting a "covid" testing company before 03/2020 I would be a billionaire too! (Even though I wouldn't be able to sleep at night)
The PCR tests detect viral RNA from destroyed virus for up until three months after recovery. They also detect spike protein from the vaccines. So "cases" are wildly over-reported, and it's impossible to tell in that population who can actually transmit the infection, so those tests are useless as a public health measure.
Funny thing. I began to feel ill with a cold on Thanksgiving night. And I've had what feels like a cold ever since. Nasal congestion, a cough mostly precipitated by talking; yesterday I developed a moderate headache with the usual icky feeling that gives me, leading to a little retching. Today that's gone.
Now, I live in the region just notable on the news for morons feeling fine but with a positive test flooding the ERs in hysteria. I do not consider myself a moron, and well or not-so-well, I take a considerable amount of Vitamin C daily (minimum well or ill 8,000 mg) plus other supplements I deem appropriate. Suspected cold, suspected flu or suspected Plague, my approach is the same. I'll get better, or I'll die, eventually...
I'm all for testing everyone, for every large event. And I mean everyone.
If the vaxxed can get infected and transmit the virus, then they should be tested just like the unvaxxed.
To use my NBA tickets, I have to show a negative test within 24 hours of the game, but a vaxxed person could be hacking up a lung, spewing virus on everyone, and because they drank the Kool-aid, they get a free pass. Not scientific.
It seems the only way out of this BS is to irritate and inconvenience everyone, so let's all test, all the time. Quarantines all around.
I've been begging for this since the testing madness began in 2020. stop testing asymptomatic ppl and use those funds to get back to normal regular healthcare that people have been abandoning since covid became the only disease. the polling must be so abysmal, hence the u-turns
This is a rerun of Nazi Germany with the medical care and doctors all becoming....Sergeant Schultz on Hogan’s Heroes....”I know nothing” as genocide is taking place.
Still waiting for an 'internet doctor' to release us from 'asymptomatic spread'. I mean no MD ever told us we could start touching our eyes again but for some reason when I'm in the produce section of the grocery store where the most communicable diseases exist on all the fruits and veggies handled by all the asymptomatic spreaders, I just tend to touch my eyes sometimes because of the fluorescent lighting but you know what? I'm OK! I AM OK, be amazed internet doctors!
I just cannot believe how easy it has been for a few very wealthy psychotic men to pull off a worldwide genicide. Maybe it is time to thin the herd to improve the quality of the stock.
We could make health care 100% of our economy if everybody just got up every morning and went to a Health Screening Service™ to probe, test, and look for diseases before they had symptoms. Every day we could learn about incipient scary conditions and then go to treatment centers and begin pharmaceutical therapies. Or have surgeries. Think of how healthy we'd be as a nation--that is, those of us who didn't commit suicide as a result of perpetual pathological hypochondria. What a moron you are, Denise.
I always come back to this 2 page document provided by the British Columbia Centre for Disease Control, dated April 30, 2020, intended for health care professionals and never updated or revised:
In a direct plea, Mr Perrottet asked people who are not unwell and who have not been asked to get a PCR test by NSW Health to “please don’t do so”.
“I know this runs counter to everything we’ve been saying over the last two years in relation to testing, so I know we’re going through an adjustment phase ... but there are many people who are lining up for tests who do not need them,” he said.
“The most important thing is that people only turn up to get tested if they’re symptomatic,” Mr Ayres said on Seven’s Sunrise program on Wednesday morning.
“If you don’t need to get tested, please don’t go and line up in one of those queues.”
[Proving yet again the power of critical mass - they have too many "cases' and there are too many people are wanting to get probed.]
Or shift all the testing to take place at home so there is no record of high positive test counts. And voila, the vaccine works in decreasing case counts.
well, technically, they should stop testing people who are sick too, since the test cannot be used as a diagnostic, and cannot be used to tell us what anyone is sick with. To stop the dystopian merry-go-round we need to go further, and simply stop testing altogether. Once we have a test that can actually legitimately be used for diagnostic purposes, then and only then does it make sense to test.
Agreed. We are on a dystopian merry-go-round. Not testing people who are asymptomatic would be a logical place to exit the merry-go-round and close it for serious maintenance, perhaps even scrap and rebuild it.
"You do realize that the next stop on this dystopian merry-go-round is for the CDC to recommend us to stop testing anyone who isn’t sick."
Sooner (I hope) or later, someone, somewhere (not one of us peasants obviously but someone, you know, important) will catch on to the idea that declaring victory and packing up will be the Royal Road to Recovery from the pandemic.
As I wrote in The Light last month, this is the real reason Japan has largely avoided this whole pandemic. There is no culture of testing. A PCR testing facility went up near my local city hall. It's pretty big, about 8'x 8' (I shit you not) and I have never seen a single person in there. You can turn up at the doctor's with all the (ahem...flu-like) symptoms and they still won't test you. I have never taken any type of test this whole time, and that's true for almost everyone I know.
Quick, Ms. Dewald, test all your patients for Dengue Fever! Don't you know how terrible that disease is?! Quick! Test them one and all or admit that you just don't care!
What's that? None of them have any symptoms of Dengue Fever? Since when did that matter to you?
Positive tests for Long Island since 12/24: 20k or so. Net new hospitalizations: 200 or so. Looks better than the seasonal flu now. No wonder markets are enjoying a Santa Claus rally: this all has to stop as we enter a federal election year.
I have said this before, we need to keep a list of these insane so called Doctors so we can avoid them, no way in hell would I want someone this stupid to be treating for anything. Don't know if she is actually an "MD" since no blue check mark.
That was the answer all along, ESPECIALLY after we found out the virus was already far more widespread than we thought. That was in April, 2020.
There's a reason we don't test healthy people for traces of the flu and then quarantine them while tracking down all their recent contacts. It's an idea so monumentally stupid that only government would actually do it.
I would ask the doctor Dewald what I have asked all my esteemed colleagues (MDs) since March 2020: Have you ever done a mono test, or flu test, or mycoplasma, or Dengue, or RSV... on anyone who was not sick? We never do that in medicine. They invented that practice with covid...
This appears to be a case of asymptotic transmission of stupidity, but we’ll need to conduct a stupid test to confirm.
You don't have to be intellectually gifted to be a Doctor. You just have to know how to memorize really well. And then to learn how to follow 'the standard of care' regardless of any important evidence to the contrary. This Doctor seems too be a shining example of this...
Yes but it is convienent to stop now that the vaccine looks terrible. They did not care when they were testing the unvaccinated that weren't sick in order to afford rent. They will continue to do so even if they stop testing the vaccinated who aren't sick in order to make the vaccine look better and justify eternal tests on the unvaccinated. I'd rather this continues for now, until every shred of faith in the vaccine is burned to the ground.
Is she.....serious? Just asking cause that's been the answer all along. And I basically dont trust anyone anymore!
That was the plan from the start. Test for a virus with fraudulent testing and scare the shit out of everyone so they stand in line to be poisoned. Hitler told them to stand in line to get a shower to clean off the lice.
I will qualify that. Gates plan from the start. The greedy sheep followed.
* Massive population reduction, a eugenics plan – in part through vaccination and other means (Ref. Bill Gates, “if we are doing a real good job vaccinating, we may reduce the world population by 10% to 15%”. See “Innovating to Zero!” speech to the TED2010 annual conference, Long Beach, California, February 18, 2010).
- YouTube......which is another site that is now removed were Gates said, I quote exactly from his speech:
“If we do a good job on vaccines, health and reproduction, we can reduce the world population by 10-15%. Only a genocide can save the world”.
Most docs are too afraid of losing their licenses or being punished for prescribing early outpatient treatments. What possible good does any testing do when that is the case? It's best to start an early outpatient treatment program on your own. If it doesn't work, you're no worse off. You still go to the hospital. There you will be tested. If you have covid, you are where you would be anyway. If the treatment works or you never get that ill, you saved a few days at a minimum when days are important in early treatment.
Not only the pcr... ANY laboratory test will give you a high percentage of false positives if you do it on someone who is not sick. PCRs are only worse. That is why in medicine we have never done tests for acute diseases on people who are not sick. We do tests on asymptomatic individuals for SOME (very few) CHRONIC diseases. It is called screening or early detection, and it is done for a completely different purpose. It is a different subject altogether.
I believe the FDA quietly posted on their website last summer that the PCR test was inaccurate and would be phased out on exactly December 31, 2021. Funny how they're nailing that timing?
If I would have just thought of starting a "covid" testing company before 03/2020 I would be a billionaire too! (Even though I wouldn't be able to sleep at night)
The PCR tests detect viral RNA from destroyed virus for up until three months after recovery. They also detect spike protein from the vaccines. So "cases" are wildly over-reported, and it's impossible to tell in that population who can actually transmit the infection, so those tests are useless as a public health measure.
When dystopia is your utopia, everything sane appears dystopian.
But.. but.. if we stop testing people who aren’t sick, cases will go DOWN, and who is that going to scare?
can we call her Dystopian Denise?
Or how about Denise the Menace?
Funny thing. I began to feel ill with a cold on Thanksgiving night. And I've had what feels like a cold ever since. Nasal congestion, a cough mostly precipitated by talking; yesterday I developed a moderate headache with the usual icky feeling that gives me, leading to a little retching. Today that's gone.
Now, I live in the region just notable on the news for morons feeling fine but with a positive test flooding the ERs in hysteria. I do not consider myself a moron, and well or not-so-well, I take a considerable amount of Vitamin C daily (minimum well or ill 8,000 mg) plus other supplements I deem appropriate. Suspected cold, suspected flu or suspected Plague, my approach is the same. I'll get better, or I'll die, eventually...
What got us into this thing is Bill Gates saw the old movie “CONTAGEON” and loved the plot. Another idea I can steal and make $ billions.
We can’t stop testing! Where will all the money go?
I'm all for testing everyone, for every large event. And I mean everyone.
If the vaxxed can get infected and transmit the virus, then they should be tested just like the unvaxxed.
To use my NBA tickets, I have to show a negative test within 24 hours of the game, but a vaxxed person could be hacking up a lung, spewing virus on everyone, and because they drank the Kool-aid, they get a free pass. Not scientific.
It seems the only way out of this BS is to irritate and inconvenience everyone, so let's all test, all the time. Quarantines all around.
Is she upset about this? Is she making fun of us ever doing this? Is this a Babylon Bee meme? I cannot tell.
I've been begging for this since the testing madness began in 2020. stop testing asymptomatic ppl and use those funds to get back to normal regular healthcare that people have been abandoning since covid became the only disease. the polling must be so abysmal, hence the u-turns
I win. I never followed crap from the CDC.
This is a rerun of Nazi Germany with the medical care and doctors all becoming....Sergeant Schultz on Hogan’s Heroes....”I know nothing” as genocide is taking place.
Still waiting for an 'internet doctor' to release us from 'asymptomatic spread'. I mean no MD ever told us we could start touching our eyes again but for some reason when I'm in the produce section of the grocery store where the most communicable diseases exist on all the fruits and veggies handled by all the asymptomatic spreaders, I just tend to touch my eyes sometimes because of the fluorescent lighting but you know what? I'm OK! I AM OK, be amazed internet doctors!
I just cannot believe how easy it has been for a few very wealthy psychotic men to pull off a worldwide genicide. Maybe it is time to thin the herd to improve the quality of the stock.
Pandemic of the tested
We could make health care 100% of our economy if everybody just got up every morning and went to a Health Screening Service™ to probe, test, and look for diseases before they had symptoms. Every day we could learn about incipient scary conditions and then go to treatment centers and begin pharmaceutical therapies. Or have surgeries. Think of how healthy we'd be as a nation--that is, those of us who didn't commit suicide as a result of perpetual pathological hypochondria. What a moron you are, Denise.
I always come back to this 2 page document provided by the British Columbia Centre for Disease Control, dated April 30, 2020, intended for health care professionals and never updated or revised:
http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Professionals-Site/Documents/COVID19_InterpretingTesting_Results_NAT_PCR.pdf
Interpreting the results of Nucleic Acid Amplification testing (NAT; or PCR tests) for COVID-19
in the Respiratory Tract
And this is the last paragraph:
"Ultimately, for COVID-19 testing, there is currently no gold standard, and the overall clinical sensitivity and specificity of
NAT in patients with COVID-19 infection is unknown (i.e., how well NAT results correlate with clinical infection, “true
positivity” or “true negativity” rate)."
This batshit lady got be banned from Twitter because she sucks at debating and practical science.
In a direct plea, Mr Perrottet asked people who are not unwell and who have not been asked to get a PCR test by NSW Health to “please don’t do so”.
“I know this runs counter to everything we’ve been saying over the last two years in relation to testing, so I know we’re going through an adjustment phase ... but there are many people who are lining up for tests who do not need them,” he said.
“The most important thing is that people only turn up to get tested if they’re symptomatic,” Mr Ayres said on Seven’s Sunrise program on Wednesday morning.
“If you don’t need to get tested, please don’t go and line up in one of those queues.”
[Proving yet again the power of critical mass - they have too many "cases' and there are too many people are wanting to get probed.]
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-records-11-201-new-covid-19-cases-as-premier-defends-decision-to-ease-restrictions-20211229-p59kl3.html
Why would you test someone who isn’t sick? Oh yeah everyone who is STUPID AND INSANE.
Or shift all the testing to take place at home so there is no record of high positive test counts. And voila, the vaccine works in decreasing case counts.
well, technically, they should stop testing people who are sick too, since the test cannot be used as a diagnostic, and cannot be used to tell us what anyone is sick with. To stop the dystopian merry-go-round we need to go further, and simply stop testing altogether. Once we have a test that can actually legitimately be used for diagnostic purposes, then and only then does it make sense to test.
Denise has one of the best parody accounts on Twitter.
This is no longer an amusement park.
Agreed. We are on a dystopian merry-go-round. Not testing people who are asymptomatic would be a logical place to exit the merry-go-round and close it for serious maintenance, perhaps even scrap and rebuild it.
She got her degree out of a box of Cracker Jax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghj5V5cUo1s
That's literally how Obama ended the swine flu epidemic. Just stopped testing.
How is it that "doctors" are some of the thickest* people around?
*Thickest, as in unbelievably stupid, not as in possessing a huge ass*
"You do realize that the next stop on this dystopian merry-go-round is for the CDC to recommend us to stop testing anyone who isn’t sick."
Sooner (I hope) or later, someone, somewhere (not one of us peasants obviously but someone, you know, important) will catch on to the idea that declaring victory and packing up will be the Royal Road to Recovery from the pandemic.
MD's are mostly Arrogant high priests and priestesses of Big Pharma living in Covidstan for fun and profit.
That woman is a moron. Heck her Twitter feed. 🙄
As I wrote in The Light last month, this is the real reason Japan has largely avoided this whole pandemic. There is no culture of testing. A PCR testing facility went up near my local city hall. It's pretty big, about 8'x 8' (I shit you not) and I have never seen a single person in there. You can turn up at the doctor's with all the (ahem...flu-like) symptoms and they still won't test you. I have never taken any type of test this whole time, and that's true for almost everyone I know.
Quick, Ms. Dewald, test all your patients for Dengue Fever! Don't you know how terrible that disease is?! Quick! Test them one and all or admit that you just don't care!
What's that? None of them have any symptoms of Dengue Fever? Since when did that matter to you?
Positive tests for Long Island since 12/24: 20k or so. Net new hospitalizations: 200 or so. Looks better than the seasonal flu now. No wonder markets are enjoying a Santa Claus rally: this all has to stop as we enter a federal election year.
Wouldn’t that be a novel idea?
c'mom CDC...do it, do it, do it...make this already wacko lose more of her mind!
I have said this before, we need to keep a list of these insane so called Doctors so we can avoid them, no way in hell would I want someone this stupid to be treating for anything. Don't know if she is actually an "MD" since no blue check mark.
Well they are withdrawing their PCR test as of 12/31.....not sure if it is the CDC's own test, or all of them?