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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

So . . . anyone else having horrendous problems with the fact that this thing supposedly came over the Aleutian Islands then into Canada (which said not a peep) and then across the US from Montana (where the ICBMs are but also the "domestic terrorists"--I'll get to that in a moment) only to be shot down once it's out of the country and over *deep* open water where we have to rely on the military to fetch it and be honest about what it was?

We only "know" this was a "Chinese" spy balloon because that's what our incredibly reliable and deeply honest "intelligence" services told us.

Meanwhile, here in Billings, we get this article off a local radio station: Expect to See More Blackhawks over Billings, Montana (https://kmhk.com/ixp/990/p/expect-to-see-more-blackhawk-helicopters-over-billings-montana/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ). Suddenly, after how many decades of having a Montana National Guard, do we need a large contingent of Blackhawks and soldiers here in addition to what we have already in Helena (the capital)?

So one thing that seems to be indisputable is that we're a gnat's whisker away from war. The only question is whether that war is coming from without or from within.

And, no, I don't like to be a conspiracy theorist, but things are getting strange.

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AndyinBC's avatar

Lillia, not sure that "getting strange" adequately describes our world. More like stark, raving, f#!%king mad.

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Guttermouth's avatar

We've got an assload of missile sites in Montana. We've also got an assload of militias.

An excuse to more intensely surveil both of them makes sense.

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CMCM's avatar

Let's just say that we don't have any real idea what is actually going on, although for certain there are those who do. Everything we are told is a flat out lie, a distraction or both. I don't believe the gov't didn't know about the balloon or somehow missed it, no way. They knew before it crossed into Alaska, and they followed it the whole way. Something else is going on and they're not going to tell us what it is. If I had to guess, I'd say Brandon doesn't know either, he just reads scripts they give him. And conveniently, they took the blimp down over water and guess what....oopsie....we can't find anything incriminating. Our bad.

My father was involved in the U2s and Gary Powers activities when we were living in England in the late 1950's and he was stationed there. You know that our spying and surveillance capabilities are far better now than they were 60 years ago. We are being lied to about these dopey balloons. I'm not buying any of it.

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cmpalmer75's avatar

John Ratcliff told Maria Bartiromo that the CCP can drop surveillance equipment and drones from those balloons. That video we saw the first night was, imo, a shoot down of something the balloon deployed. It could be that they are scouring the ground for other devices deployed.

These people are incompetent morons...or compromised.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/montana-officials-deny-viral-midair-explosion-video-amid-concerns-over-chinese-spy-balloon?utm_source=theblaze-dailyAM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__AM%202023-02-05&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM&fbclid=IwAR1e48Or2brXrw9pFNCtRcgexjfGCGpJpdcPPUXXVSLzhp8vJj0sewNuzvE

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

My sister's BF's husband is still in the military and he said the video was definitely of something being shot down (as if a civilian couldn't tell that), and we live near where this happened. There is a whole lot of something not being told.

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cmpalmer75's avatar

It's really astonishing how well the media/government psyops work. Okay, it wasn't the Chinese war balloon. Then, WTH was it?

I posted this below as well:

cmpalmer75

1 hr ago

I've heard of a theory for the CCP spy war balloon that has nothing to do with spying. A nuclear bomb detonated at high altitude (but below the magnetosphere shield) would generate an EMP that could take down the grid in the entire continental United States.

Yes, every country spies on every other country (even allies) using whatever tools available to them. The US has a lot of tools. No one wants to be spied upon. No one wants to stop spying.

https://www.thoughtco.com/starfish-prime-nuclear-test-4151202

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cmpalmer75

1 hr ago

https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/the-first-time-the-us-tested-an-emp-weapon-was-a-doozy/

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HardeeHo's avatar

The balloon was at 60k'. Record for a gas balloon with a payload ~ 100k'. To get a 10 kV EMP over the US you would need a lot more altitude. To get a focused EMP (directed energy) you could do that but not a widespread EMP.

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

I've read the theory else where that this was a test run for a weapon such as that. As for what else it could be? It occurs to me that it could be "one of our own" and they made up the story because it flew low enough that someone saw it, and suddenly we have "Chinese spy balloon." The lie is for the US public's benefit and China's, if it's a weapon the US military is working on. As for what we would be doing? I don't know, everything from spying on our own people to doing a test run for a deadly weapon to use on our own people or another country.

Pedro Gonzales made some good points yesterday, about what we face if it was the Chinese: https://substack.com/inbox/post/100783827

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hoppah's avatar

Just had dinner the other night with some folks who live in a big city near me and they said they had a panic recently, downtown, due to tons of military helicopters flying around, low, between the buildings, at night, with no lights on. Everyone thought we were under attack. After a big outpouring of outrage and panic, the military apparently said it was "training".

As for what sort of war the gubmint is preparing for, well, just note that the gubmint is in the process of building the FBI a new facility that will dwarf the Pentagon.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I have a feeling we're not going to like their plans.

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Yeah, see that's what I worry about. It's not a foreign war that we would need that kind of training for.

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