"3) The CDC is afraid that if they investigate, it might find an inconvenient answer"
It wouldn't be their first time. These are almost the exact words used by CDC whistleblower Dr. William Thompson when commenting on CDC fraud regarding vaccine safety and possible links to autism. Hint - there never was a proper investigation. When they did start investigating, they did it only for a little bit, a very tiny bit, threw away most important findings, dusted over the rest, and finally declared 'nothing to see here, move along'.
According to Dr Thompson they were terrified of what they could find if they dug any deeper.
Hint: if you are interested in this story, you could do better than to use google. For obvious reasons.
The data looks like it agrees with your coverup hypothesis. The CDC is comparing 2021 with 2020, instead of with the pre-pandemic 2019.
There is a chance of defeating the coverup if people make a case that comparing 2021 with 2020 is invalid because covid was a confounder in 2020 and that, instead, 2021 should be compared with 2019.
They succeeded at backing most of the public off the truth about vaccine safety. These people later became Covidians. Just had a conversation the other day with someone who said the autism/vaccine connection had been тАЬdisprovenтАЭ. By whom? Oh, right, the CDC. Always consider the source.
The CDC, through its own study, discovered the flu vaccine doesnтАЩt prevent deaths--even for the older people it was supposed to help. But people still line up for it!
ty, Tom. this is essentially what Ed Dowd (https://gettr.com/user/edwarddowd) is saying. others as well. but the CDC won't go there. we all know of course that it is caused by climate change. all these working age adults are dying of heatstroke while "breaking rocks in the hot sun".
not so much. actually some of his data is from group insurance plans--those life ins plans you get when you go to work for med-large company. it seems to be more a 40-50 YO group he is tracking--but others as well. the idea is those LI co's are a bit freaking out bec you are not supposed to die in middle age. that is their profit pool.
I was glancing thru the California Dept of Public Health website the other day and saw, for 2020, a chart showed all cause mortality over time. A big uptick in 2020 vs previous years.
So I went to see what they show for 2021 and 2022 to date. Maybe I missed something, but it looks like they have omitted the trend line and now, instead, show deaths by cause WITHIN the year, not over time. They show how each county did relative to the average CA county that year. (Made up example: in 2022, Kern County had a higher % dying of AlzheimerтАЩs than the average CA county in 2022.) I could not find any charts showing the trend in all cause deaths in CA in 2021 and 2022. Please someone prove me wrong!
This kind of obfuscation is very prevalent nowadays. You should try looking at well established databases for miscarriages, stillbirths and neonatal deaths, whereas previously the data was available on a monthly basis you now have to look very hard for even quarterly data, and in Australia it is now delayed by over 3 months.
Thanks for that useful datapoint, I always like to use tidbits like yours to check Steve Kirsch's claim of a VAERS underreporting factor of 40. There have been 9,000 odd deaths reported for 2021 following Covid vaccination, of which about 2,200 were of working age. About 65% of the US population are between 15 and 64 years old, so that gives us about 214 million people. According to the New York Times, 74% of those aged 18 to 64 are vaccinated, so that gives us about 159 million vaccinated working age people in the US. Based on the 2,200 fatalities reported to VAERS we get a vaccine fatality rate of about 14 per million. If we multiply that by Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40 we get 560 vaccine deaths per million. Does this Kirschian vaccine fatality rate give us the 230,000 increased deaths in 2021? Let's see. If the vaccinated working age population in the US is 159 million, then 560 deaths per million would give us about 90,000 deaths. This is about 40% of the actual number, so, if anything, the underreporting factor should be at least 100.
[I think you're awesome] (insert music) :)! I still recall early on you spoke out. I did not take the shot and listened to you and others when so many around me were frantically looking for "vax" appointments. Thank you, thank you, thank you! ЁЯзб
Dr Yeadon, again Oh gosh. I said you were the reason I didn't take the shot. No didn't mean that ЁЯШЙ. The numbers on the local covid dash ---I forget, but the positivity rate for the amount of testing didn't seem so threatening. Relativity rate vs absolute relativity. There was a lot. Two unnecessary minor surgeries (among other things) and my mistrust in certain doctors and medical establishment started a long time ago.
Further to my above comment, it is worth considering how many of the older vaccinees might have succumbed to the vaccines. If we assume that only 20% of the deaths among vaccinees over 64 are due to the vaccine, we get 0.2 x 7,200 deaths in 2021 occurring in about 92 million vaccinees. This gives us 625 deaths per million if we apply Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40, which when multiplied by the 90 odd million elderly vaccinees gives us about 57,000 premature deaths.
Ethical Skeptic's figure of 372, 000 up to September 2022 is very shocking and shows that the death rate has not abated much since 2021. I find that a bit surprising as the Euromomo charts show excess deaths have been declining since their high of 25% above average earlier this year, and they are now down to below average.
I figured that you might follow up on this little tidbit of data.
"US working age deaths in 2021, if I did my arithmetic correctly, amounted to 937,488 deaths.
US working age deaths in 2019, if I did my arithmetic correctly, amounted to 707,265 deaths.
That's an increase of 230,000 US working age deaths between 2019 and 2021, of which the actuaries say most are not due to covid.
Crickets from the CDC as regards any investigation of this or explanation for this."
https://sensiblemed.substack.com/p/still-no-data-on-pfizer-bivalent/comments
Now let's consider some possible explanations for CDC silence.
1) The CDC was too busy fighting anti-vaxxer propaganda and didn't notice,
2) Long COVID has dumbed the CDC personnel down so much that they can no longer do basic arithmetic,
3) The CDC is afraid that if they investigate, it might find an inconvenient answer, and
4) The CDC has already investigated and doesn't want the public to know the answer.
CDC Mortality Data Sources:
2019:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db395-tables-508.pdf#page=3
2021:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm
"3) The CDC is afraid that if they investigate, it might find an inconvenient answer"
It wouldn't be their first time. These are almost the exact words used by CDC whistleblower Dr. William Thompson when commenting on CDC fraud regarding vaccine safety and possible links to autism. Hint - there never was a proper investigation. When they did start investigating, they did it only for a little bit, a very tiny bit, threw away most important findings, dusted over the rest, and finally declared 'nothing to see here, move along'.
According to Dr Thompson they were terrified of what they could find if they dug any deeper.
Hint: if you are interested in this story, you could do better than to use google. For obvious reasons.
ALL the regulatory bodies are captured by the companies they are supposed to "regulate."
The real kicker is OUR tax dollars are used to FUND these sham entities.
That really makes me angry. ALL of it
The data looks like it agrees with your coverup hypothesis. The CDC is comparing 2021 with 2020, instead of with the pre-pandemic 2019.
There is a chance of defeating the coverup if people make a case that comparing 2021 with 2020 is invalid because covid was a confounder in 2020 and that, instead, 2021 should be compared with 2019.
Wouldn't covid also be a confounder in 2021?
Covid would be a confounder to vax as cause of death in 2021, but the point is that 2019 is a better baseline than 2020.
They succeeded at backing most of the public off the truth about vaccine safety. These people later became Covidians. Just had a conversation the other day with someone who said the autism/vaccine connection had been тАЬdisprovenтАЭ. By whom? Oh, right, the CDC. Always consider the source.
The CDC, through its own study, discovered the flu vaccine doesnтАЩt prevent deaths--even for the older people it was supposed to help. But people still line up for it!
I never got a flu shot. Had the flu once. It sucked. I survived.
ty, Tom. this is essentially what Ed Dowd (https://gettr.com/user/edwarddowd) is saying. others as well. but the CDC won't go there. we all know of course that it is caused by climate change. all these working age adults are dying of heatstroke while "breaking rocks in the hot sun".
Looks to me like Dowd is focusing on millennials.
not so much. actually some of his data is from group insurance plans--those life ins plans you get when you go to work for med-large company. it seems to be more a 40-50 YO group he is tracking--but others as well. the idea is those LI co's are a bit freaking out bec you are not supposed to die in middle age. that is their profit pool.
Profits were down in employer life. Risk was undercounted, likely because of vaccines.
Can you find one of Dowd's posts on this topic?
these may help:
https://gettr.com/post/p1u3kfn0538
https://gettr.com/post/p1tnhol30f0
https://gettr.com/post/p1sgtr6d610
He is in process of putting a site to focus on this on his other issues. also a book in works.
Dowd has been great. He did this talk a short while ago:
https://rumble.com/v1mny36-ed-dowd-covid-and-the-global-financial-collapse-a-tale-of-catastrophes-and-.html
I was glancing thru the California Dept of Public Health website the other day and saw, for 2020, a chart showed all cause mortality over time. A big uptick in 2020 vs previous years.
So I went to see what they show for 2021 and 2022 to date. Maybe I missed something, but it looks like they have omitted the trend line and now, instead, show deaths by cause WITHIN the year, not over time. They show how each county did relative to the average CA county that year. (Made up example: in 2022, Kern County had a higher % dying of AlzheimerтАЩs than the average CA county in 2022.) I could not find any charts showing the trend in all cause deaths in CA in 2021 and 2022. Please someone prove me wrong!
This kind of obfuscation is very prevalent nowadays. You should try looking at well established databases for miscarriages, stillbirths and neonatal deaths, whereas previously the data was available on a monthly basis you now have to look very hard for even quarterly data, and in Australia it is now delayed by over 3 months.
Thanks for that useful datapoint, I always like to use tidbits like yours to check Steve Kirsch's claim of a VAERS underreporting factor of 40. There have been 9,000 odd deaths reported for 2021 following Covid vaccination, of which about 2,200 were of working age. About 65% of the US population are between 15 and 64 years old, so that gives us about 214 million people. According to the New York Times, 74% of those aged 18 to 64 are vaccinated, so that gives us about 159 million vaccinated working age people in the US. Based on the 2,200 fatalities reported to VAERS we get a vaccine fatality rate of about 14 per million. If we multiply that by Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40 we get 560 vaccine deaths per million. Does this Kirschian vaccine fatality rate give us the 230,000 increased deaths in 2021? Let's see. If the vaccinated working age population in the US is 159 million, then 560 deaths per million would give us about 90,000 deaths. This is about 40% of the actual number, so, if anything, the underreporting factor should be at least 100.
I may be wrong here, but even the bare numbers as in VAERS are so horrific that we donтАЩt need to take a stab at URF.
I donтАЩt believe anything different would happen if the URF was 1 or 100.
It ought to, but the authorities arenтАЩt even dealing with the bare numbers.
Is that really you Dr Yeadon? or just someone pretending to be you? If it is really you, I feel honored that you commented.
David,
It is me, but IтАЩm just an ordinary person, caught up in extraordinary times.
Cheers
Mike
[I think you're awesome] (insert music) :)! I still recall early on you spoke out. I did not take the shot and listened to you and others when so many around me were frantically looking for "vax" appointments. Thank you, thank you, thank you! ЁЯзб
Dr Yeadon, again Oh gosh. I said you were the reason I didn't take the shot. No didn't mean that ЁЯШЙ. The numbers on the local covid dash ---I forget, but the positivity rate for the amount of testing didn't seem so threatening. Relativity rate vs absolute relativity. There was a lot. Two unnecessary minor surgeries (among other things) and my mistrust in certain doctors and medical establishment started a long time ago.
Further to my above comment, it is worth considering how many of the older vaccinees might have succumbed to the vaccines. If we assume that only 20% of the deaths among vaccinees over 64 are due to the vaccine, we get 0.2 x 7,200 deaths in 2021 occurring in about 92 million vaccinees. This gives us 625 deaths per million if we apply Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40, which when multiplied by the 90 odd million elderly vaccinees gives us about 57,000 premature deaths.
Based on Ethical Skeptic's numbers, it looks like excess US working age deaths reached 372,000 in September.
Now see if you can get the CDC to make a proper comparison of 2021 with 2019 instead of with 2020.
He is awesome. Definitely following him!
Ethical Skeptic's figure of 372, 000 up to September 2022 is very shocking and shows that the death rate has not abated much since 2021. I find that a bit surprising as the Euromomo charts show excess deaths have been declining since their high of 25% above average earlier this year, and they are now down to below average.
Reminds me of Alberta reporting that Unknown Deaths to be the leading cause of deaths in 2021, a 2x increase from 2020 and 4x increase from 2019.
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/deaths-with-unknown-causes-now-alberta-s-top-killer-province-1.5975536
Authorities are perplexed because they refused to even entertain the obvious cause.
Watch out, there's "Medium Covid" now!
LOL
#3 is the major part of it.
All the above?