Thanks for that useful datapoint, I always like to use tidbits like yours to check Steve Kirsch's claim of a VAERS underreporting factor of 40. There have been 9,000 odd deaths reported for 2021 following Covid vaccination, of which about 2,200 were of working age. About 65% of the US population are between 15 and 64 years old, so that gives us about 214 million people. According to the New York Times, 74% of those aged 18 to 64 are vaccinated, so that gives us about 159 million vaccinated working age people in the US. Based on the 2,200 fatalities reported to VAERS we get a vaccine fatality rate of about 14 per million. If we multiply that by Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40 we get 560 vaccine deaths per million. Does this Kirschian vaccine fatality rate give us the 230,000 increased deaths in 2021? Let's see. If the vaccinated working age population in the US is 159 million, then 560 deaths per million would give us about 90,000 deaths. This is about 40% of the actual number, so, if anything, the underreporting factor should be at least 100.
[I think you're awesome] (insert music) :)! I still recall early on you spoke out. I did not take the shot and listened to you and others when so many around me were frantically looking for "vax" appointments. Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🧡
Dr Yeadon, again Oh gosh. I said you were the reason I didn't take the shot. No didn't mean that 😉. The numbers on the local covid dash ---I forget, but the positivity rate for the amount of testing didn't seem so threatening. Relativity rate vs absolute relativity. There was a lot. Two unnecessary minor surgeries (among other things) and my mistrust in certain doctors and medical establishment started a long time ago.
Further to my above comment, it is worth considering how many of the older vaccinees might have succumbed to the vaccines. If we assume that only 20% of the deaths among vaccinees over 64 are due to the vaccine, we get 0.2 x 7,200 deaths in 2021 occurring in about 92 million vaccinees. This gives us 625 deaths per million if we apply Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40, which when multiplied by the 90 odd million elderly vaccinees gives us about 57,000 premature deaths.
Ethical Skeptic's figure of 372, 000 up to September 2022 is very shocking and shows that the death rate has not abated much since 2021. I find that a bit surprising as the Euromomo charts show excess deaths have been declining since their high of 25% above average earlier this year, and they are now down to below average.
Thanks for that useful datapoint, I always like to use tidbits like yours to check Steve Kirsch's claim of a VAERS underreporting factor of 40. There have been 9,000 odd deaths reported for 2021 following Covid vaccination, of which about 2,200 were of working age. About 65% of the US population are between 15 and 64 years old, so that gives us about 214 million people. According to the New York Times, 74% of those aged 18 to 64 are vaccinated, so that gives us about 159 million vaccinated working age people in the US. Based on the 2,200 fatalities reported to VAERS we get a vaccine fatality rate of about 14 per million. If we multiply that by Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40 we get 560 vaccine deaths per million. Does this Kirschian vaccine fatality rate give us the 230,000 increased deaths in 2021? Let's see. If the vaccinated working age population in the US is 159 million, then 560 deaths per million would give us about 90,000 deaths. This is about 40% of the actual number, so, if anything, the underreporting factor should be at least 100.
I may be wrong here, but even the bare numbers as in VAERS are so horrific that we don’t need to take a stab at URF.
I don’t believe anything different would happen if the URF was 1 or 100.
It ought to, but the authorities aren’t even dealing with the bare numbers.
Is that really you Dr Yeadon? or just someone pretending to be you? If it is really you, I feel honored that you commented.
David,
It is me, but I’m just an ordinary person, caught up in extraordinary times.
Cheers
Mike
[I think you're awesome] (insert music) :)! I still recall early on you spoke out. I did not take the shot and listened to you and others when so many around me were frantically looking for "vax" appointments. Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🧡
Dr Yeadon, again Oh gosh. I said you were the reason I didn't take the shot. No didn't mean that 😉. The numbers on the local covid dash ---I forget, but the positivity rate for the amount of testing didn't seem so threatening. Relativity rate vs absolute relativity. There was a lot. Two unnecessary minor surgeries (among other things) and my mistrust in certain doctors and medical establishment started a long time ago.
Further to my above comment, it is worth considering how many of the older vaccinees might have succumbed to the vaccines. If we assume that only 20% of the deaths among vaccinees over 64 are due to the vaccine, we get 0.2 x 7,200 deaths in 2021 occurring in about 92 million vaccinees. This gives us 625 deaths per million if we apply Steve Kirsch's underreporting factor of 40, which when multiplied by the 90 odd million elderly vaccinees gives us about 57,000 premature deaths.
Based on Ethical Skeptic's numbers, it looks like excess US working age deaths reached 372,000 in September.
Now see if you can get the CDC to make a proper comparison of 2021 with 2019 instead of with 2020.
He is awesome. Definitely following him!
Ethical Skeptic's figure of 372, 000 up to September 2022 is very shocking and shows that the death rate has not abated much since 2021. I find that a bit surprising as the Euromomo charts show excess deaths have been declining since their high of 25% above average earlier this year, and they are now down to below average.