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yantra's avatar

hey Metta i really didn't mean to complain at all - i was really thinking an AI "algorithm" was trying to prevent my access to your site (which i wouldn't blame it). i don't understand this rapt acceptance of all things electronic and "smart" by some in the younger generations, except that they have been prgrammed with these devices since embryonic.

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Metta Zetty's avatar

Thanks, Yantra. Appreciate and share your concern every time I have trouble accessing content online that's not part of the approved narrative.

Also agree 100% on the "smart" tech hype and AI mania:

> Smart Tech: https://workflowy.com/s/beyond-covid-19/SoQPdY75WJteLUYx#/e7c268ce430f

> AI Mania: https://bra.in/2vAbAa

On my cynical days, I imagine a future where slow quiet times offline with real food and human friends will be a luxury. However, I also have a deep faith in the human spirit, and I do hope we'll realize that life offline has rich value long before it's too late.

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yantra's avatar

me too! i have just been reading a book called "fiber" (by susan crawford) since my landlord wants to bring optical fiber to my home and i want to make sure it's not worse for me emf-wise than coaxial cable. anyway the author mentions that she "met many twenty-somethings" in seoul, korea (where they are heavily into fiber & 5G ) "who did not distinguish between online life and 'real' life" (as if that was a good thing!) God help us all.

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Metta Zetty's avatar

Sad, indeed!

If you think of it, I'd love to know what you eventually decide about the optical fiber after reading Susan's book. I would have thought it to be much safer that wi-fi or the coaxial cable, but I don't know much about it, and I will see if I can find her book online.

Thanks again!

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at this point - i just read about how they do "the last mile", including the crucial splice to connect the actual house to this glass enclosed, speed of light intense stream of photons sending zillions of signals in various frequencies including gigahertz (billions of cycles per second). it is a stunning amazing technology, but if that last splice is not perfect, it sounds like the leakage of signal could be disastrous for the occupant or anyone nearby - and this is being described by a woman whose goal is to bring "fiber" to every household in the USA. i ended up with this book because sonic dropped it off on my doorstep in 2020. mind you, i am not saying crawford said 'disastrous' - that is my surmise based on her description of the splice being done.

anyway, the other thing about 'fiber' is that once it is in place, it sets the stage for massive 5G adoption (like they already have in Seoul) which i think will probably push humanity to the brink. i don't know what you know about it, but a friend who is high up in the engineering side of tech told me they are worried about the intense beams damaging the lenses in cameras - and then he said "what about the lenses in our eyes?" (5G uses beam-forming of up to many thousands of tiny gigahertz antennas together to increase distance and penetration).

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Metta Zetty's avatar

Thank you very much, yantra, for this additional info. Very interesting ~ and concerning.

If this push to expand the reach of fiber optics does, indeed, facilitate the push of 5G, then that's a disaster all by itself.

I've not yet done a deep dive into the world of 5G, but as someone who previously recovered from EHS (electro-hypersensitivity syndrome) and who does not use any mobile or wireless technology, I'm keenly aware of the fact that 5G users are simply guinea pigs for a very dangerous and largely unregulated technology. (Those beam warnings sound terrible!)

Worse still, I've heard reports that 6G will be an absolute disaster.

Good of you to be looking into this now. . . . . so at least you'll have a heads up about what we're heading into . . . . . .

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i also use no wireless devices and have none in or around my home. as for ehs, i too have been labeled as such but i think the term is a little like saying someone is "arsenic sensitive" ( ;

ie, (as i think you know) we are all affected by this unprecedented massive artificial radiation, but some of us are more sensitive to the immediate effects and thus have made the connection. others do not connect their headaches, insomnia, brain fog, anxiety, depression, joint pain (etc) or even their serious neurological disease (MS, parkinsons, early dementia) or cancer to their wireless exposures.

susan's book says the only way 5G will fulfill it's capabilities is by having super-fast fiber optic cable to connect to, since speed and low latency are essential.

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