i would urge strenuously against using terms like "purebloods." it's inflammatory language, divisive, and hearkens to a lot of bad history.
one does not reclaim the world from propogandists by aping their tactics to engage in counter propaganda.
we do it by getting back to truth and away from vilification and division. those who fell for this dirty trick, and there we many, need to be not just free but encouraged to see what happened and to switch sides.
A touchy subject indeed. I am vaxxed. I turned it down three times when it was offered by various employers. I was dead set against it. Still am. I am likely to lose my jobs over mask mandates and become unemployable which will likely lead to being forced to return to the US from Japan for the first time to live in more than 20 years, leaving my family behind. Yet I got this cursed shot. If I did not, then my child would be denied school if I have any covid like symptoms. I always have covid like symptoms due to allergies. So he would be denied an education unless I got the shot. So I did. I pray that if it is to do me in, that it does so before they try to give in to my son. You folks who have stayed resolute ARE the pure bloods. We, the vaxxed, spread this virus more than you. We are less likely to fend off later mutations of the virus than you are. We have turned ourselves into superspreaders of the disease and very well may have exerted enough evolutionary pressure to keep this nonsense going much longer than it otherwise would and creating a bigger mess for you to clean up afterwards. It very well may be the case that the existence of us, the vaxxed, threaten your very existence. The time for hurt feelings is past. If any of my fellow vaxxed complain, tell =us all to go pack sand. Call as you see it. Just my 2 cents worth, for what they are worth.
That said, you are the author and have many concerns to worry about. I respect your call.
it's not my intention to make this call for anyone apart from myself.
but this is not about hurt feelings so much as effective communication and coalition building to get out of this mess while also promoting what was one referred to as "common decency."
a phrase like "pure bloods" is needlessly inflammatory, others those who got vaxxed, and has an inherent "i am better than you" slant.
a lot of people got lied to about these drugs and went along to get along etc.
many are now waking up to the scam and seeing the inefficacy and the fact that this will never end and that that was always the plan.
these people can be allies as we resist further authoritarian encroachment or we can alienate them by erecting imperious names for our tribe that belittle them.
speaking truths about "this did not work. it made it worse. you are likely more threat to the unvaxxed then they are to you" is all well and good. but erecting some "pureblood" edifice that cannot be joined and echoes all manner of nasty historical pretexts for genocide and systemic discrimination is not helpful.
is that who we want to be?
i sure don't.
restoring sanity means getting the center back on side. this takes truth and it takes inclusion.
the enemy are not those that fell for this. it's those who played the trick.
True. All true. However, those of us who vaxxed regardless of how or why, our fates are sealed. We need to prevent the unvaxxed from getting vaxxed. At all costs.
Now, there may be a better way than the terms used but reason is not going to get it done. People are panicked and thus can not be reasoned with. I hope I am wrong, but it seems that the only way is through a fear that is greater than what they now have. ItтАЩs like we are try to stop a stampeded of buffalo from running off a cliff.
Wow, TS, that is a poignant and powerful message. Thank you for weighing in with your unique perspective. I am so deeply sorry you were coerced into getting jabbed and hope you can take precautions to mitigate the potential effects. Here are some recs that may help:
Thank you, but you donтАЩt understand. IF something is to happen because of the shot, I want it to happen as soon. I see no other way to keep my son safe from getting the shot. His is 8 and everyone around my is vaxx crazy. I do not want him to get this shot.
TS, I think I follow you, although I donтАЩt want anything to happen to you :-( You are right to do everything in your power to save your son from this. Is home-schooling an option? Medical exemption? Religious exemption? I think the narrative is crumbling quickly, and we just need to hold the line for a few more months тАж
Ah, good to know. You might try seeing if James Corbett has discussed this situation as he lives in Japan and has school-aged children. LetтАЩs hope the madness ends before the age limit is reduced!
I will admit I prickled at the sound of that term when I first heard it and hesitated to use it for the reasons you mentioned, but then I thought embracing it would emphasize the fact that the vaxxedтАЩs blood is tainted and perhaps give them pause. I agree with your arguments, though, and IтАЩll revert to abstaining from its use.
That said, others have rightly pointed out that тАЬunvaxxedтАЭ is not accurate, either, as it implies the vaccination has been тАЬundoneтАЭ rather than тАЬnot done.тАЭ They have chosen to use terms such as тАЬnon-vaxxed,тАЭ which I find rather inelegant.
I had previously coined the terms тАЬGMO humansтАЭ vs. тАЬnon-GMO humans.тАЭ Not sure what you think about that approach, but it taps into peopleтАЩs discomfort with GMO foods and serves as a reminder (or informer for most) that the vaxxed have been genetically modified.
IтАЩm all for free people against authoritarians and definitely feel that is the heart of the matter.
"That said, others have rightly pointed out that тАЬunvaxxedтАЭ is not accurate, either, as it implies the vaccination has been тАЬundoneтАЭ rather than тАЬnot done.тАЭ"
i find this framing odd and probably specious.
why would one say that?
"uncircumcised" does not imply "once circumcised and later had foreskin restored."
unrepentant does not imply repentant but no longer so.
i see no real basis for that interpretation. what un based construction works that way?
that feels like overwrought semantic tail chasing to me.
is literally anyone making a presumption that one can de-vaccinate?
the fun part about "unvaccinated" as our inclusive term is that if they keep moving the goalposts on what "fully vaccinated" means, more and more people will keep finding themselves in our group.
this is a jarring, awakening experience.
for so many here on PR, a demand for a third shot is the bridge too far that jolts them to understanding the situation.
get this and it will work and you get your life back.
then it doesn't and you don't.
now take more or you'll be "unvaxxed."
it breaks credulity.
i like the inclusiveness of them being forced into this label (even if it lacks precision).
*lol* I accede all your points and will revert to using тАЭunvaxxedтАЭ or тАЬunvaccinatedтАЭ (the latter when IтАЩm trying to persuade a believer to pause, listen, and think), if for no other reason than itтАЩs easier than the clumsy and potentially offensive alternatives.
A huge part of our problem right now is that the vaxxed don't want to admit they've been conned - they are in the denial about it - and therefore they are doubling down on coercion so that everyone else can make the same mistake and they can feel better about themselves.
That is a great point. Yes, not just with the shot, but with masks and wiping and all of it. They have no problem spreading their pain and suffering to others, pressuring them to make the same damned fool decision we did. Why should you care about how we feel? The goal is to protect those who have yet to get the shot. We who have, forget about us. There is nothing you can do for us.
That wonтАЩt help you save those who are waiting to get vaxxed. There are parents begging and pleading to be able to get the shots for theirs kids. They will not even now you are nearby, forget them hoping to hear your polite gestures. They need to be jolted back to rationality OR given a bigger fright than that which is driving them to get their kids vaxxed.
Stigmatization may have happened already, biologically and indelibly. Should the poison death shot (TM@Dr. Zelenko) change human DNA into trans-human, there will be no reversion. You will have humanity (from God) facing transhumanity (from ???). There is no excaping the issue.
Radiation (not necessarily from God) also can change dna. Does that make people whose dna was changed (say, for example, in a way that caused cancer) to be "transhuman?"
Missing the point. Such people can not cause you to get sick. The are also not likely to try to force you to undergo what they did. Those of us, such as myself, who chose to get the shot for whatever reason have to live with the results. No one can change those results. Forget about us. Focus on saving those who have yet to get the shot. If you have to paint us as ogres to scare the bejesus out of those who are leaning towards the shot for themselves or, God forbid, for their child, have at it. We made our bed, donтАЩt cry about us having to lie in it.
Stigmatizing, naming/shaming, mocking or ignoring the vaxxed won't lead the unvaxxed to remain unvaxxed. Those of us who have refused thus far either already have critical thinking & ability to research intact or are so deep into government distrust they will not break down.
All it does is further divide. Which is exactly what the criminals want. Divide & conquer.
Also, "crying about it" does not equal compassion any more than "crying about it" helps someone who is injured. Compassion would be positively helping them in some way.
No, it just makes them sick, and I should make a distinction here between "damage" and "change". Radiation will certainly cause damage, but that is being spontaneously repaired by our immune system and as long as it works well, there is no permanent change. An experimental gene intervention drug (there is no vax) containing synthetic mRNA with features possibly disabling the innate capability of our bodies to repair themselves in order to achieve a lasting change of the DNA coding is in a league of its own. Even if it were paved with good intentions the road to transhumanism is a road to hell.
I hear you, Mary, and I definitely get that. It is challenging to try and get people to open their eyes without engaging their defenses, particularly when it comes to the diehard believers тАж
I"ve succeeded exactly once: with a nurse who is s neighbor. We were having a slightly testy conversation that ranged across the surface. I didn't have hard pcr data at that moment, only could say 40 cycles sounded awfully high to me, so *let* her "win" on her (incorrect) claim that pcr+ meant infectious. She followed up with her "lifetime experience in public health." To which I replied "Then perhaps you could answer a question for me."
Leading her to think I was ready to convert enabled her to drop her defenses. I knew the answer to my question. I also knew the answer would be kneejerk from decades of living it.
"Would that cloth mask of yours protect against measles?"
Long pause...whispers "No."
"Would that cloth mask protect against tb? "No."
"For the record, I've checked the dimensions. The tb mycobacteria is ~500x the size of the sarscov virus. 500x the size.". We parted still friendly. She had been shocked back to consciousness.
I saw her a couple months later. We had a brief convo re: vax side effects. It quickly became clear her critical thinking had stayed awake. She paled at the mention of side effects. I let her know the results of the Salk Inst research, that the spike caused the disease. She picked up on the timing of that announcement -- a month or so before the big push to vax. Asked for repeat of date & location with intent to read it.
Wish I could wake up more, but it's really, really hard to maintain sufficient self-control to not come across as nutcase. It was easier when I knew less, lol.
I have nursing students dining disposable gloves when they come into the classroom to spray down and wipe their desks and chairs before and after class wearing masks. My medical technician vocational school demanded that I wear a mask for online classes I conducted from my own home. One of my medical schools has a multi page list of what we are must and must not do at work, during the commute and at home. I am not to dine with anyone out side my house not converse with my family while eating and we are to dine separately. тАЬSnugglingтАЭ is expressly prohibited. Yesterday they sent out the booster schedule for all the med. students, all of whom will unthinkingly get it. I, of course do not follow any of this nonsense, but you really think anyone has a prayer taking sense to such people? That day has passed. That battle was lost. Time to move on. We, the vaxxed, are dead to you. Save the remaining unvaxxed.
Your description gave me chills. That is not only dystopian but psychologically traumatizing. I have so much empathy for the children suffering under this systematically progressive torture.
Mary, wow, that is an impressive featтАФbrilliant strategy! You have succeeded in the first crucial step toward awakening: sowing the seeds of doubt. See more details on the process in this article by Julius Ruechel:
IтАЩve never read the Harry Potter series myself, so I didnтАЩt know the context when I first heard it, either. Learning that softened the meaning for me, but I realize there are plenty of people like us, and youтАЩre absolutely right about its potential for weaponization by the *actual* eugenicists ЁЯджтАНтЩАя╕П
IтАЩm so glad you like non-GMOтАУhuman and plan to use it. IтАЩm rather fond of it and agree it should short-circuit the Whole Foods Market crowd ;-)
i would urge strenuously against using terms like "purebloods." it's inflammatory language, divisive, and hearkens to a lot of bad history.
one does not reclaim the world from propogandists by aping their tactics to engage in counter propaganda.
we do it by getting back to truth and away from vilification and division. those who fell for this dirty trick, and there we many, need to be not just free but encouraged to see what happened and to switch sides.
this is not unvaxxed against vaxxed.
it's free people against authoritarians.
let's not lose sight of that.
Thank you! We need to strongly discourage this "pure/impure" framing if we want to claim the moral high ground.
A touchy subject indeed. I am vaxxed. I turned it down three times when it was offered by various employers. I was dead set against it. Still am. I am likely to lose my jobs over mask mandates and become unemployable which will likely lead to being forced to return to the US from Japan for the first time to live in more than 20 years, leaving my family behind. Yet I got this cursed shot. If I did not, then my child would be denied school if I have any covid like symptoms. I always have covid like symptoms due to allergies. So he would be denied an education unless I got the shot. So I did. I pray that if it is to do me in, that it does so before they try to give in to my son. You folks who have stayed resolute ARE the pure bloods. We, the vaxxed, spread this virus more than you. We are less likely to fend off later mutations of the virus than you are. We have turned ourselves into superspreaders of the disease and very well may have exerted enough evolutionary pressure to keep this nonsense going much longer than it otherwise would and creating a bigger mess for you to clean up afterwards. It very well may be the case that the existence of us, the vaxxed, threaten your very existence. The time for hurt feelings is past. If any of my fellow vaxxed complain, tell =us all to go pack sand. Call as you see it. Just my 2 cents worth, for what they are worth.
That said, you are the author and have many concerns to worry about. I respect your call.
it's not my intention to make this call for anyone apart from myself.
but this is not about hurt feelings so much as effective communication and coalition building to get out of this mess while also promoting what was one referred to as "common decency."
a phrase like "pure bloods" is needlessly inflammatory, others those who got vaxxed, and has an inherent "i am better than you" slant.
a lot of people got lied to about these drugs and went along to get along etc.
many are now waking up to the scam and seeing the inefficacy and the fact that this will never end and that that was always the plan.
these people can be allies as we resist further authoritarian encroachment or we can alienate them by erecting imperious names for our tribe that belittle them.
speaking truths about "this did not work. it made it worse. you are likely more threat to the unvaxxed then they are to you" is all well and good. but erecting some "pureblood" edifice that cannot be joined and echoes all manner of nasty historical pretexts for genocide and systemic discrimination is not helpful.
is that who we want to be?
i sure don't.
restoring sanity means getting the center back on side. this takes truth and it takes inclusion.
the enemy are not those that fell for this. it's those who played the trick.
True. All true. However, those of us who vaxxed regardless of how or why, our fates are sealed. We need to prevent the unvaxxed from getting vaxxed. At all costs.
Now, there may be a better way than the terms used but reason is not going to get it done. People are panicked and thus can not be reasoned with. I hope I am wrong, but it seems that the only way is through a fear that is greater than what they now have. ItтАЩs like we are try to stop a stampeded of buffalo from running off a cliff.
Amen all the way, and I think that is a wise and compassionate strategy ЁЯЩМ
Wow, TS, that is a poignant and powerful message. Thank you for weighing in with your unique perspective. I am so deeply sorry you were coerced into getting jabbed and hope you can take precautions to mitigate the potential effects. Here are some recs that may help:
тАв pine needle tea
тАв citrus
тАв peppermint
тАв More tips: https://t.me/concernedlawyersnetwork/1744
I applaud you for your humility, awareness, and bravery in speaking up on behalf of the vilified unvaxxed/non-vaxxed/non-GMO humans :-)
Thank you, but you donтАЩt understand. IF something is to happen because of the shot, I want it to happen as soon. I see no other way to keep my son safe from getting the shot. His is 8 and everyone around my is vaxx crazy. I do not want him to get this shot.
TS, I think I follow you, although I donтАЩt want anything to happen to you :-( You are right to do everything in your power to save your son from this. Is home-schooling an option? Medical exemption? Religious exemption? I think the narrative is crumbling quickly, and we just need to hold the line for a few more months тАж
I live in Japan. No such option exist. As of yet, they are not vaxxing kids his age but I believe they are for 12 year olds and up.
Ah, good to know. You might try seeing if James Corbett has discussed this situation as he lives in Japan and has school-aged children. LetтАЩs hope the madness ends before the age limit is reduced!
Very sorry for your predicament (textbook coercion). Sometimes there is little choice.
Thank you. But you see, there was a choice. I hope to save my son from this and the choice I made, I believe, was the one to make for that goal.
I will admit I prickled at the sound of that term when I first heard it and hesitated to use it for the reasons you mentioned, but then I thought embracing it would emphasize the fact that the vaxxedтАЩs blood is tainted and perhaps give them pause. I agree with your arguments, though, and IтАЩll revert to abstaining from its use.
That said, others have rightly pointed out that тАЬunvaxxedтАЭ is not accurate, either, as it implies the vaccination has been тАЬundoneтАЭ rather than тАЬnot done.тАЭ They have chosen to use terms such as тАЬnon-vaxxed,тАЭ which I find rather inelegant.
I had previously coined the terms тАЬGMO humansтАЭ vs. тАЬnon-GMO humans.тАЭ Not sure what you think about that approach, but it taps into peopleтАЩs discomfort with GMO foods and serves as a reminder (or informer for most) that the vaxxed have been genetically modified.
IтАЩm all for free people against authoritarians and definitely feel that is the heart of the matter.
"That said, others have rightly pointed out that тАЬunvaxxedтАЭ is not accurate, either, as it implies the vaccination has been тАЬundoneтАЭ rather than тАЬnot done.тАЭ"
i find this framing odd and probably specious.
why would one say that?
"uncircumcised" does not imply "once circumcised and later had foreskin restored."
unrepentant does not imply repentant but no longer so.
i see no real basis for that interpretation. what un based construction works that way?
One of my commenters (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-colluder-stop-enabling/comments#comment-3175739) wrote a *lengthy* cease-and-desist document (http://werex.org/cease-and-desist-notice-of-libel/) related to this topic, but the gist is:
тАЬPeople are either *vaccinated* or they are *not-vaccinated*, and once vaccinated, in practice, they cannot be *unvaccinated*.тАЭ
Semantics, I know, but I see his point, particularly given the power of language to shape perception.
that feels like overwrought semantic tail chasing to me.
is literally anyone making a presumption that one can de-vaccinate?
the fun part about "unvaccinated" as our inclusive term is that if they keep moving the goalposts on what "fully vaccinated" means, more and more people will keep finding themselves in our group.
this is a jarring, awakening experience.
for so many here on PR, a demand for a third shot is the bridge too far that jolts them to understanding the situation.
get this and it will work and you get your life back.
then it doesn't and you don't.
now take more or you'll be "unvaxxed."
it breaks credulity.
i like the inclusiveness of them being forced into this label (even if it lacks precision).
*lol* I accede all your points and will revert to using тАЭunvaxxedтАЭ or тАЬunvaccinatedтАЭ (the latter when IтАЩm trying to persuade a believer to pause, listen, and think), if for no other reason than itтАЩs easier than the clumsy and potentially offensive alternatives.
I think gato is saying it's important not to stigmitize the vaxxed in any way, period.
As painful as it is to accept you've been conned, its that much harder when those who saw through the con mock you or treat you as "other " or stupid.
Given that the vaxxed could be looking at lifelong consequences for their stepping into the trap, approach with compassion.
They are victims, not the perps. There but for the grace of God....
A huge part of our problem right now is that the vaxxed don't want to admit they've been conned - they are in the denial about it - and therefore they are doubling down on coercion so that everyone else can make the same mistake and they can feel better about themselves.
That is a great point. Yes, not just with the shot, but with masks and wiping and all of it. They have no problem spreading their pain and suffering to others, pressuring them to make the same damned fool decision we did. Why should you care about how we feel? The goal is to protect those who have yet to get the shot. We who have, forget about us. There is nothing you can do for us.
We can do something, we can be kind. Many were coerced, forced to make almost impossible choices and need compassion going forward.
That wonтАЩt help you save those who are waiting to get vaxxed. There are parents begging and pleading to be able to get the shots for theirs kids. They will not even now you are nearby, forget them hoping to hear your polite gestures. They need to be jolted back to rationality OR given a bigger fright than that which is driving them to get their kids vaxxed.
ЁЯСП
Stigmatization may have happened already, biologically and indelibly. Should the poison death shot (TM@Dr. Zelenko) change human DNA into trans-human, there will be no reversion. You will have humanity (from God) facing transhumanity (from ???). There is no excaping the issue.
Radiation (not necessarily from God) also can change dna. Does that make people whose dna was changed (say, for example, in a way that caused cancer) to be "transhuman?"
Missing the point. Such people can not cause you to get sick. The are also not likely to try to force you to undergo what they did. Those of us, such as myself, who chose to get the shot for whatever reason have to live with the results. No one can change those results. Forget about us. Focus on saving those who have yet to get the shot. If you have to paint us as ogres to scare the bejesus out of those who are leaning towards the shot for themselves or, God forbid, for their child, have at it. We made our bed, donтАЩt cry about us having to lie in it.
Stigmatizing, naming/shaming, mocking or ignoring the vaxxed won't lead the unvaxxed to remain unvaxxed. Those of us who have refused thus far either already have critical thinking & ability to research intact or are so deep into government distrust they will not break down.
All it does is further divide. Which is exactly what the criminals want. Divide & conquer.
Also, "crying about it" does not equal compassion any more than "crying about it" helps someone who is injured. Compassion would be positively helping them in some way.
Admirably put! Reminds me of classical ethics.
No, it just makes them sick, and I should make a distinction here between "damage" and "change". Radiation will certainly cause damage, but that is being spontaneously repaired by our immune system and as long as it works well, there is no permanent change. An experimental gene intervention drug (there is no vax) containing synthetic mRNA with features possibly disabling the innate capability of our bodies to repair themselves in order to achieve a lasting change of the DNA coding is in a league of its own. Even if it were paved with good intentions the road to transhumanism is a road to hell.
I hear you, Mary, and I definitely get that. It is challenging to try and get people to open their eyes without engaging their defenses, particularly when it comes to the diehard believers тАж
It takes turning off the defenses.
I"ve succeeded exactly once: with a nurse who is s neighbor. We were having a slightly testy conversation that ranged across the surface. I didn't have hard pcr data at that moment, only could say 40 cycles sounded awfully high to me, so *let* her "win" on her (incorrect) claim that pcr+ meant infectious. She followed up with her "lifetime experience in public health." To which I replied "Then perhaps you could answer a question for me."
Leading her to think I was ready to convert enabled her to drop her defenses. I knew the answer to my question. I also knew the answer would be kneejerk from decades of living it.
"Would that cloth mask of yours protect against measles?"
Long pause...whispers "No."
"Would that cloth mask protect against tb? "No."
"For the record, I've checked the dimensions. The tb mycobacteria is ~500x the size of the sarscov virus. 500x the size.". We parted still friendly. She had been shocked back to consciousness.
I saw her a couple months later. We had a brief convo re: vax side effects. It quickly became clear her critical thinking had stayed awake. She paled at the mention of side effects. I let her know the results of the Salk Inst research, that the spike caused the disease. She picked up on the timing of that announcement -- a month or so before the big push to vax. Asked for repeat of date & location with intent to read it.
Wish I could wake up more, but it's really, really hard to maintain sufficient self-control to not come across as nutcase. It was easier when I knew less, lol.
I have nursing students dining disposable gloves when they come into the classroom to spray down and wipe their desks and chairs before and after class wearing masks. My medical technician vocational school demanded that I wear a mask for online classes I conducted from my own home. One of my medical schools has a multi page list of what we are must and must not do at work, during the commute and at home. I am not to dine with anyone out side my house not converse with my family while eating and we are to dine separately. тАЬSnugglingтАЭ is expressly prohibited. Yesterday they sent out the booster schedule for all the med. students, all of whom will unthinkingly get it. I, of course do not follow any of this nonsense, but you really think anyone has a prayer taking sense to such people? That day has passed. That battle was lost. Time to move on. We, the vaxxed, are dead to you. Save the remaining unvaxxed.
Your description gave me chills. That is not only dystopian but psychologically traumatizing. I have so much empathy for the children suffering under this systematically progressive torture.
Mary, wow, that is an impressive featтАФbrilliant strategy! You have succeeded in the first crucial step toward awakening: sowing the seeds of doubt. See more details on the process in this article by Julius Ruechel:
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/07/the-emperor-has-no-clothes-finding.html
Even patience should be expended on those we love.
I've been hearing Australian resisters calling the unvaxxed "good hearts". I think it's cute.
тАЬGood heartsтАЭтАФthat is adorable! ЁЯШН
IтАЩve never read the Harry Potter series myself, so I didnтАЩt know the context when I first heard it, either. Learning that softened the meaning for me, but I realize there are plenty of people like us, and youтАЩre absolutely right about its potential for weaponization by the *actual* eugenicists ЁЯджтАНтЩАя╕П
IтАЩm so glad you like non-GMOтАУhuman and plan to use it. IтАЩm rather fond of it and agree it should short-circuit the Whole Foods Market crowd ;-)