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el gato malo's avatar

and when it comes to light how much the insurers paid doctors to push the covid vaxx (though bounties for hitting % of patients vaccinated targets) and how the drug companies probably paid the insurers to do this.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Honestly i think the best thing Trump can do (and it's not just with c19 - everything else) is to hold bimonthly "fireside chats" for the next 6 months where he explains to people what's going on, and how it fits into the big picture.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

What a great idea! I can see it already... the bluehaired wokalots would be screaming hysterically through their masks,.throwing their decaf skinny soy-oat lattes at the screen.

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Pi Guy's avatar

That's... very specific.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

LOLOLOL. You are one funny dude!

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Melissa Fountain's avatar

bwa-hahahaha

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Donna O's avatar

That televised cabinet meeting!!!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes

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AndyinBC's avatar

Good idea - and diametrically opposed to the "keep 'em in the dark and feed 'em shit" policies of all of our rulers since Ronnie.

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Pi Guy's avatar

I just heard this in my head in Ben Stein's voice: "Anyone? _Something_ R-O-O-M Politics. *pause* MushROOM Politics."

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Alex Rayman's avatar

I had the same kind of thought after he did Rogan: go back on the biggest podcast in the world routinely, really talk about things. Probably wouldnтАЩt do that one so frequently, but I bet Rogan would have him back on

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Rogan already invited him back. But I like that idea too!

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bara.ex.nihilo's avatar

I prefer the Oval Office setting to keep the optics of neutrality over favoritism.

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Brett Hyland's avatar

Greenfire side-chats.

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AJoy's avatar

ThatтАЩs what Dennis Prager does ЁЯТХ

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TokyoJoe's avatar

Lol - he could do a virtual pat on the head and say there there as they freak out. Oh if onlyтАж..

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eva writes stuff's avatar

X Spaces? Maybe with a different cabinet member each week? Or Rogan. That was epic!

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

Absolutely. I have been advocating for this as I think it would be a big step toward restoring power to the people (cue inspirational music).

This really could work. I have seen such projects inspire people to become involved with civic matters rather than just be recipients of dubious information. One mayor that I know of held such gatherings, which served to inform both the government and the people. And post-Sandy Hook, the Obama Administration convened nationwide round table discussions of mental health. This was a most under-appreciated effort, as those who engaged seemed to feel better for having done so.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

That's exactly what I'm thinking. He doesn't even need to make it political. Just the facts.

Someone needs to make sure they're threading this all together so it's easy for people to follow the broad strokes.

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taxpayer's avatar

Hasn't the payments to doctors already "come to light?" For instance, https://vaxopedia.org/2024/05/13/were-doctors-bribed-to-give-covid-vaccines/

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Kay's avatar

Most people still donтАЩt know.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Or don't want to know

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AndyinBC's avatar

Exactly!

Which ties back to Bad Kitty's observation re individual's perceptions of themselves, of who and what they are - if they have to confront the opinions they expressed, or the actions they may have undertaken during the vaccine hysteria at the height of the scamdemic.

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Lauri Maniccia's avatar

Most people are unaware of MOST of reality.

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Graphite's avatar

I'm not sure that is the best link to use - he seems to be trying to debunk the idea!

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taxpayer's avatar

A valid point. I guess I figured that anyone who reads thru it critically would understand what's going on. I have great respect for Massie and McCullough, and I guess I assumed others do too. The post never defines "the difference between a bribe and an incentive."

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Ann Glover's avatar

Yup, you're right. Looks like your common or garden "fact check" with the usual obfuscations and fiddling with definitions. An incentive is a bribe, as far as I'm concerned. And always is when it comes to medicine.

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Robird's avatar

This story is bullshit. Never happened.

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AT's avatar

I don't have all the details but I can tell you my brother is a family doctor and he got--according to him--a "huge bonus" right around this time, which he offered as an explanation for why he made some big purchases. He is a vaxtard, lives far away, (and constantly sick now) so we don't discuss the topic any more.

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MrsS's avatar

This has been happening for at least 20 years with the childhood vaccine schedule and parents donтАЩt seem to mind. Why would this matter now?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

They just assume that the CDC guidelines are mandates for going to school.

Total grift. And unethical to say the least.

I was a victim of this when we had our kids. I didn't even think about it.

Lesson learned.

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Momcat's avatar

You can't take your baby home from the hospital if they don't get a help b shot... a baby that has no risk of her b unless her mother is a heavy drug user, a baby that has about a year's worth of her mother's immune system when born. Don't want it, they'll CPS on you.

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Scott's avatar

Might depend on the state. My kid received no shots.

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April Smith's avatar

That is NOT true. You have to sign a consent form. It's an optional shot as are all of them.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

They're buttholes and don't tell you that. Most 28 year olds who put there kids in school don't think about it and just nod

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IceSkater40's avatar

This is state dependent. I think New York is one of the hardest on this one.

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MrsS's avatar

Yeah, you can. I lived in California and none of my kids had the shot.

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Julinthecrown's avatar

We HAD been indoctrinated to think 'well, the government said so'. No mas.

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MrsS's avatar

My new state of Iowa was proposing a bill to alert parents they could say no. I don't think it passed, but I love that people are thinking about it.

And yes, it should be criminal. And even if you think you know what you want to do, the docs push it so hard you start to feel like you're wrong. My oldest two had a few shots. My son got whooping cough at 18 months (only shot which he was actually up to date) and the old school doc told me "Oh yeah, that vaccine doesn't really work." That's when I stopped doing anything.

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

I don't know if it is all total grift, mostly because I am incapable of locating with precision the date, time, and place on which the government's credibility forever bit the dust.

At one time the CDC's word was good. Reliable. Now it is difficult to trust them to tell you what day of the week it is. You would want to check for yourself.

It may have been, by and large, a combination of lassitude and mission creep.

The polio vaccines were considered miraculous. And others followed on. And then there were more. And more. And for the longest while there did not seem to be any consequences so folks lined up and like good citizens got the shots and the vaccines and the this and the that because who wanted to be the neighborhood Luddite?

And now it is slowly dawning on people that maybe more is less.

Real science is needed and that is quite difficult to conduct when you are working with human health and emergent diseases. But that is no reason to default to treatment that is supposed to be prevention, but is, undeniably, treatment in its own right.

Hoping for the best for an overhaul with all the 'health' thinkers.

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Francisco dтАЩAnconia's avatar

They donтАЩt know

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Dr Linda's avatar

They trusted. The medical profession is one that I will not trust

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Pi Guy's avatar

And that's scary because we need them to be better.

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SadieJay's avatar

My grandkids have very few shots between all 7 of them. And my daughter-in-law is a school nurse. Parents come in ready to raise hell about the 'vaccine' schedule and she quickly and quietly hands them an exemption form. It makes them speechless. I worry about my active duty kids in the military too.

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kittynana's avatar

@Francisco- I've been complaining for years ever since my now 24 yr old granddaughter was getting her shots. I was blown away by the schedule. And now SHE has kids and I have a 3 yr old grandson. I have a feeling I, as a parent, wouldn't allow it.

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Dave Slough's avatar

So you good with babies that are 12 months old getting 27 vaccines

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MrsS's avatar

If this comment was to me, no. Of course not.

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Grandma Bear's avatar

And perhaps the drug companies got the money to pay the insurers from some opaque government agency.

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Guido's avatar

Well, I feel the important data is not big pharma offering payouts, but our "health care professionals" taking it.

Many doctors may be pompous assholes, but it goes without saying they are not stupid. They may be ignorant, like any mortal, but not stupid. Accepting such large sums of cash clearly under the table indicates some high-level mass citizen-fuckery taking place.

I can't believe they expect "bonuses" or "tips" for simply fulfilling their Hippocratic Oath responsibilities.

-They know. They know everything is going to change for them. Kind'a ironic that the vile persecution they wanted foisted on us is going to completely submerge them. They will not know the peace they once took for granted with their elevated societal status.

They are, and most certainly will be, scared shitless. Deservedly so.

Onward, Christian soldiers!

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

Does it go without saying that they are not stupid? Many is the physician that I have met that I concluded I would have preferred to encounter while under anesthesia.

Compounding the problem is everyone treating MDs as if they are geniuses -- the M.Deity syndrome.

No. They make mistakes.

But! Today's medicine is metric bound and liability policed. Test results one smidgen higher or lower than 'average' require medication without consideration of all the other activities of the body.

There is a wonderful documentary -- I believe it is called "Rounds" -- that shows older physicians instructing medical students. The older physicians do wild things like listening to the patient, touching the patient, and asking questions. Shocking. Then, if they need to know more, they look at the tests. The medical students swoon in confusion. The older doctors get the diagnoses right more often than not and they seem to be able to hear trouble coming with impressive accuracy.

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Robird's avatar

I have no recollection of this being an insurance driven effort; the Federal Government was the source of all the pressure to administer the mRNA technology. No incentive that I was informed of by insurers. Speaking as a CMO of a healthcare entity. The threat was decertification by CMS. Plain and simple coercion.

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