There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent we shall have no more need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed.
But always -- do not forget this, Winston -- always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever.
Here is how it played out in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
"We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation .... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?...
The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if..."
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Edit: updated the name of the country it happened and left out the world Socialist Republics
Kirk was born in the year I was finishing up University, slogging through lefty prof classes, and doing my tiny part to “resist” in campus activism with one other guy. Lol
I almost feel ashamed that in 30+ years Kirk managed to grow up and courageously do what I did not though I had the inclination.
Instead I succumbed to the banality of life.
As a young person I could have, should have stepped up.
but with the time Kirk no longer has, YOU DO, and you CAN change up how you go forward. you don't have to "regret" as a dead feeling, but to "atone" is a verb that involves doing.
The fear of lies presented as fact which are purported to harm. Fear of straying from the official, authorized and acclaimed reaction to the lie. Fear of being ostracized from the group which has already accepted the official reaction as the true and only path forward, whatever that may be.
Agreed. Early in my life I was an instructor at a US Marine base. I grew up hunting. I think I was 15 when I took down an animal to eat and did it with my hands and a knife. Those that killed animals and ate them with their family can make that jump to humans faster than you think. They choose not to.
Ok sorry. It’s a different substack written by a regular poster to gato by name of Kunsler. Many of the posters in our comment section also host smaller substacks. 👍🏿
I’m old enough to remember that since Reagan, every Republican candidate for president in America has been label “Nazi.” Even the Bushes. Later we found out of course that the Clintons and Bushes were besties and would vacation together. I remind my lefty friends of this.
When everyone is a Nazi, no one is a Nazi (and the term is cheapened and becomes almost meaningless.)
They call us Nazis because Nazis are by definition unreasonable. It lets them off the hook for having civilized debate when they marginalize and imply sun-human status. It’s a weasel move actually.
The part of that bit which truly amuses me is that I was a teen with some serious anger management problems who went out and picked fights with the local skinheads.
Of course, I was punching people who identified *themselves* as Nazis.
These asshats want to punch people that *they* identify as Nazis.
From an adult perspective I'd question the political awareness of the skins with nazi-symbols back then, but that they were nast customers in search of a punch-up there's zero doubt.
Said it before, I'd really like to see the pundits and wokesters crying "nazi" go up against some of the guys I remember. I once saw a dozen or so of them charge straight into well over a thousands red-wing protesters without a second thought, just laying into them.
Let's see Tim Waltz or Anne Applebaum handle that!
They may have been basically retarded and just using Nazi symbols for shock value, but they certainly went around beating up gays and non-whites, so, I figured they were fair game.
I’m down for the striking down with blindness part. I liken that to loony Coof response. The nonesense was so irrational, it revealed those who are blind.
Stalin seemed a bit indiscriminate about his, “off with their heads” murder schemes. Do you think he became drunk with power in the usual way? He got worse after being in office.
“Bad people are the problem.” What to do with that pesky human nature! This is often the dispute I have with lefty friends. Is human nature basically good, or is human nature basically bad and/or prone to failure regarding his fellow man?
I think these days they still answer that humans are basically good (therefore “prison doesn’t work,” etc….) but in the case of assassinations and BLM looting, the “Evil Orange Man made them do it.”
That’s when we must remind that humans are responsible for their own actions and blame cannot be shifted to someone else.
Is human nature basically good or basically bad - that is the question.
People tend to take a position and defend it regardless.
In my observation and experience, people from cultures with solid moral foundations tend to be good, while those from cultures without solid moral foundations tend to be bad.
However, there are always exceptions.
There are likely to be some good people and some bad people in all cultures/religions/groups, even families.
I read some very solid input from a person who moved from a culture without solid moral foundations, to one with solid moral foundations.
He said it took him decades to make the adjustment to realising, that most people in a moral culture are moral.
He continued to expect people to be basically immoral for a long time, because that was what his cultural conditioning had programmed him to expect of others.
I think people from basically moral cultures, tend to expect all people to be basically moral people regardless.
This is not the case.
Some people claim that everyone shares the same basic human values.
Criminals, terrorists, mafia, corrupt players at all levels ... ?
Liars, thieves and murderers, overt and covert, at all levels ... ?
I lived and worked in the Middle East for over 10 years and spent time in a lot of various countries in that part of the world. The #1 thing I quickly learned was that not everyone is like us or has our values of basic human morality and decency. Not by a long shot. It was a sobering realization I had in my 20's and it influenced how I viewed the world and other people from that point on.
Crazy. I actually made your exact point to a friend earlier today about expectations. The context was Anglos are often more open to illegal immigrants than legal migrants are. 👍🏿
And Gato, you are being too kind to the "not insignificant portion of America" that is eager to swallow whatever they are fed by the bad guys. They may not all be bad, immoral and stupid, but most of them have some combination of those qualities.
Now you're talking Ryan. Sir Gato of Malo seems to believe "this is past “culture war”".
A guy named Alex from a hundred years ago talked about the rise of the Marxist and what trained Marxists do.
“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying."
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
It is 1925 Spain in the US right now and this is bad for everyone. I am so happy team Charlie which is highly armed did not decide to deal with the "Commie" right now. Because the other side is itching for a fight and has no problem burning down the place.
I believe its important to stop using terms like “Soviet Russia” and use Union of Soviet Socialist Republics to remind people of Socialism. I also do not use words like Progressive, Liberal or Leftist and prefer to call them Commies, as it sets them off to explain why they are not Commies.
North Korean refugee Yeonmi Park said the Columbia was more conformist than the country she escaped from. MSM ignores immigrants like her. Meanwhile, Walz praises the CCP because he wishes he had that level of thought control.
I just want to mention that Walz picked the anniversary of Tiananmen Square pie party for the day he married his wife. Wow that is some loyalty to the party he showed doing that. For perspective, thats like an American picking 9/11 to get married after spending years working with Hamas in the Middle East.
If your not familiar with the British Ambassadors description of what happened in Tiananmen Square
"STUDENTS LINKED ARMS BUT WERE MOWN DOWN INCLUDING SOLDIERS. **APCS THEN RAN OVER BODIES TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO MAKE QUOTE PIE UNQUOTE AND REMAINS COLLECTED BY BULLDOZER. REMAINS INCINERATED AND THEN HOSED DOWN DRAINS."**
British Embassy is just down the road from Tiananmen Square. You might imagine why the British Government was not happy with Julian Assange for leaking this document.
Their safe space was invaded. The safe space which is paid for by taxpayers and parents but they believe is owned by the Uni collective. IMO, they require a reminder to solve their honesty problem. Their reality does not match up with their fantasy.
"but i think a lot of them are starting to have suspicions." I don't see it happening, at least not in my social media circles. They are doubling down, is what I'm seeing. Maybe a few of the smarter ones are realizing how much they've been lied to? I'm watching the Charlie Kirk memorial and know exactly what side of the aisle I'm on. Give me that stadium full of patriots and empathy and love and almost the entire Presidential Cabinet. I don't know how this is going to end but we must defeat the forces of dark. I like what Elon said (he's at the memorial): Charlie was murdered by the Dark for showing people the Light.
I think a lot of people have seen how their social media circles reacted and are leaving the party, which (I think) is what gato is talking about. This DOES have the effect that everybody "left behind" is more extreme than normal.
One of my favorite quotes from John Kennedy “There is a split in the Democratic Party,” Kennedy said. “Unless you have the IQ of a meat thermometer, you can see that. On the one hand, you have the mainstream wing of the party. On the other side, you have what I call the loon wing. They’re fighting like cats in a bag, but the loon wing is winning."
Antifa is a global organisation. Here is a photo of them from 1925 with the Antifa flag up on the German Communist Party headquarters. They were the street troops of the Communist Party globally and still are. The methods they used to get paid and "affinity groups" has been used for 100+ years.
So were many others including Elon Musk and Tulsi Gabbard. Though they describe it more as a move by the democrat party (stage left), not a move by themselves.
A lot of this depends on the actions of the democratic politicians in the very near future. Do they actually dial down the temperature or do they double down?
From the looks of things today, they're going to double down.
So the leftie snowball will continue to shrink as the normies peel themselves off one by one.
In order to depart, rational people must be able to find a “home” they feel content with. By which I mean social group. Many are not quite brave enough to lose friends and approval of co-workers.
And this has been happening for years. We saw a lot of it during covid. We saw it with the collapse of the 'very fine people' hoax. We saw it with boys competing against girls in sports. Every issue slices off a portion of the most sane and makes the next purity test more extreme.
but the result is you end up with a pure soldier that will follow ALL orders. You dont need a large number of them. You need enough of them. The United States Revolution saw an America that was British. It only needed "enough", or about 4% radicals to grab another 4% to run with them.
In a bunch of accounts that I read from peoples diaries and biographies, Americans ended up purchasing good English Furniture from those that did not want to be caught up in the "troubles" that went back to England after selling off the furniture, but keeping the property.
I think that a very important distinction is that the settlers/founders built what they knew of as America and their enemies were (mostly) physically in England. Call that a home field advantage or whatever, but they had more support than they otherwise would have.
In the modern case, Antifa hasn't built shit. They only destroy. Everybody hates them except the 'leaders' of the cities were they run wild.
If we had a "Purge" night in Portland, there would be no Antifa in the morning.
Regarding: "They are doubling down". "One of the most constant characteristics of beliefs is their intolerance. The stronger the belief, the greater its intolerance. Men dominated by a certitude cannot tolerate those who do not accept it."
Until their whole identity changes, you can't change their M.O. as Smug, Nasty, Awful People. You can only use it. Note that there is a significant psychological overlap here with a certain kind of male. See the Sigma Game substack, by the guy who invented the term.
You have fallen for this ‘light’ side vs ‘dark’ side Hegelian dialectic. They are the same side. Evil doesn’t show up with a pitchfork and show you how actually evil it is, it’s going to show you how good it is! ie: The “Golden Age” (lies) ..open your eyes please and study properly all the ‘ideas’ of this Charlie Kirk Character and understand what it really is all about
They have to be smart but also brave because they risk losing their social groups. Being part of and being accepted by a known group is a primal need. It’s scary to jump from one train to another.
Social media keeps the lie going a little longer. It’s like the protection of mucus around a cancerous tumor.
They know they’re likely to lose their friend groups and be confronted with finding themselves, “on the wrong side” which their sense of self cannot take. This is unfortunately human weakness.
One other comment: I grew up in Robbinsdale, MN, a 1st ring suburb of MPLS. I couldn't believe it when Ilhan Omar went to Elim Lutheran church in Robbinsdale and was spewing hate about Charlie Kirk and the attendees (congregants?) cheered. I don't recognize my home town or state anymore.
spent alot of time working in Burnville about 30 minutes away. Ice fishing for walleye on Lake Mille Lacs. Snow mobile Hunting to the Canadian border. Parties at the Mall of America.
"The bottom line is that you can't have one rule for Facebook and another for Twitter" -- the only way the rules of those sites is the same is if government writes those rules. And that's exactly what Harris wanted.
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop."
As much as Bondi and Carr wanted to make to rip my hair out this last week, it's important to realize how much worse it could have been.
Maybe the best way get at Jimmy Kimmel and ABC would have been for the Kirk family and TPUSA to hit them with a big fat defamation lawsuits. We know how much broadcasting corporations love those.
It's not like Kimmel is influencing anyone who isn't already convinced of that point of view. I'd say it's better to have him out there spewing all the vicious things he says on his non-funny show. He has chronically low viewership anyway, will probably not be renewed by ABC in January, and he provides lots of fodder to be mocked on conservative media so people who don't watch this stuff can be reminded of how despicable the left really is.
Still, a successful defamation suite against him would be a great teachable moment. Otherwise he'll keep claiming it was Trump who got him pulled. He'll do that anyway but far fewer people will believe him after him and ABC are forced cough up a few million bucks.
They’ve been swiftly corrected. That’s a clear difference in how the sides will react. MAGA freaked out.
The Left would have doubled down on the authoritarianism. As Rham Emmanuel said, “Never let a crisis go to waste.”
“4 Boxes Diner” channel has really good commentary but was begging the world not to force Bondi out and excused her. She has done some great stuff but it is precisely because we have the blessing of speech that we can correct with a verbal backlash when/if there is color outside the lines. Bondi has been problematic since her Florida days.
"Because today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups... So I ask, in my writing, What is real? Because unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms. I do not distrust their motives; I distrust their power. They have a lot of it. And it is an astonishing power: that of creating whole universes, universes of the mind. I ought to know. I do the same thing."
Since there is so much history now accrued on how toxic these elements listed actually are, maybe the takeaway is to shift away from the entire toxic collection.
I fear a combination of the generalized DUMBING DOWN and a current propensity to see things not as they are but as people wish them to be leads people to think this time it's different. "What we learn from History is that no one learns from History."
Seeing things as we wish them to be could be both good or bad under previous circumstances, but not when video games and transhumanism are prescribed as the answer. You will own nothing and live with your VR glasses in a pod. (The bug protein enhanced with fake meat cancer cells will taste like steak.)
Sorry, I hope this glimpse at the potential dystopian future doesn’t serve to shock and horrify.
It was foreseen in an earlier time: "People will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think." Aldous Huxley
More recently Ziggy could see it coming: "Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."
OT: You know incidentally that A Huxley’s brother was a famous scientist- I seem to remember related to the area of CRISPR and early transhumanism. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqReeTV_vk
The Huxley Brothers, Orwell, Koestler, Hoffer, London are all people I read in my youth. An interesting thing about Ziggy and Kissinger, they foretold so much that has and is transpiring. They're all brothers in the same lodge. "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
"perhaps i’m just being optimistic, but i think that a lot of them have no idea how badly, comprehensively, and consistently they have been lied to."
I've found that these same types are of they type never to admit they were duped or lied to. They can't admit they were fooled. They double down.
I've had this experience a couple times in the past week, both about the covid response. They just can't admit they were lied to. And doubled down on "perfect vaccines" (her words, not mine), masks, 6 feet, lockdowns. It was insane.
Play Socratic method. They’ll either double down on “The Noble Lie” or get angry and shut down the convo.
Remain calm, be polite, and avoid using the word “you,” instead speak of “people.” If they get emotional, erratic, and crazy they have only themselves to blame.
While everyone is in agreement that we live in insane times, everyone thinks the other side is insane, while their side is where sanity reigns. What is truly insane is that so many people are so siloed they do not see the preposterousness of this situation. They accept it as "normal". Is this vaccine neuropsychological damage? Is it propaganda/brainwashing? Is it "psywar" as Robert Malone calls it. Or is it just the veil being lifted from how stupid so many of us can be. I include myself, as I have been fooled again and again. It's a Barnum world as the movie says.
We saw fierce correction of Bondi by MAGA and the ratio-ing of Trump by his base on Truth Social after his first statements this year about Epstein. I think this tells you that the system is (mostly) functioning nominally on one side of the playing field. 🙏
Yeah that would have gone a whole lot different here, and it would include a massive firefight. WTF are these nuts thinking? In America? You die for that shit. At least down here you do.
Does anyone pay attention to "Jazz Hands" Walz of "Stolen Valor" Blumenthal? As El Gato Malo points out, the Venn diagram is now two separate circles. Charlie Kirk pushed for "civil discourse." How can that happen when there is no civility from the left?
I suggest we start engage even more in civil discourse by ourselves. There will be FOMO. They should always be invited to participate.
The world will notice the difference in messaging and response. Rational and calm versus erratic and lying. The truth declares itself. Shine a light on it.
“The solution to misinformation is more information, not less.” (Sic) Jordan P.
All makes perfect sense to any logical thinking person.
However I hope I wrong in saying it won’t make one tiny bit of difference in the next election cycle. The stinking mess that is the current democratic platform will still get an enormous number of votes from the stinking mess from the Democratic base. They will line up in mass and vote for a horse turd shaped like a “D”.
You know that tiresome Maya Angelou quote that the left always smugly trots out to slander us? Dear little leftist children, this time we're gonna apply it to you.
That "when someone shows you who they are, believe them" quote?
Honestly, after the attempt at using OSHA to mandate the vax and censoring people who objected, the most shocking part of this whole affair is watching centrists get blackpilled over the left.
This is what they are. It's not clear to me how many times they have to show us before it sinks in.
You've seen me say this before but I'll say it again: It was as though a great abscess had been lanced and all the anguish of the previous years of Our Plague Era was draining away.
The most extraordinary feeling. Like health was going to be possible again.
"where there is no goodwill from others, reciprocal goodwill towards them is a vulnerability and when dealing with a tribe that sees vulnerability as opportunity, it will cost you dearly."
It is hard when the person who has adopted membership of that other "tribe" is your own flesh and blood, your own offspring. You self-censor expressing your views on so many things to avoid triggering their confirmation biases that you are either "evil" or "stupid" or both. You hope to keep the door to communication open so that one day there might be some word you say that will be received as useful, helpful, or wise and caring. But eventually you realise there is no remnant of good will towards you left towards you within them. Only entitlement and injustice-collecting when you express hurt or set some kind of limit on what you are able to tolerate in a good-natured way.
When the bifurcation of the Venn diagram into two completely separate spheres occurs within your own family, it is helpful to have a good cognitive map of what is going on so i thank "bad cattitude" for that. But is still bodily shattering somewhere deep in your heart.
My family’s bifurcation happened last Thanksgiving. They left us. I have no feelings about it anymore. The sane ones are a comfort. We have fun and love. . The reality challenged are the losers, drowning in hate and suspicion.
Correct. It is very hard and painful. However, if you leave the cage door open the bird may return. If you slam it shut it is much harder. Which does true love demand?
(Doesn't affect objective reality of course, but that's secondary.)
And belief does not rely on factual evidence but adherence to dogma and creed.
(No, that's not a slur on any religious faith; it's a description of the mechanism of belief.)
And belonging to group is one of our strongest impulses.
(It's strong enough to compete with sleep, food and sex.)
And being good, empathic and kind is something we condition each other to think we are.
(As opposed to be rational, logical and calculating without conscience, despite this being a false dichotomy.)
So: tell lies in such a way that anyone questioning them is either evil, stupid or simply callously inhumane, and project an aura of goodness via the chanting of the creed, and a minimum of 1/3 of all adults will believe you, will want to believe and will defend their belief in the face of evidence and empirical data.
This is in no way unique to the left or the woke; it is a set of mechanisms that can be exploited by any group seeking power over the minds of others.
Therefore, there's no one single way of resisting and breaking free by taking control of your own mechanism. Rather, any way that achieves freedom of Will is the right way.
And the above is what led them astray: they concluded that if this is so, then everything is equally meaningless and the lie is the only truth.
This is cowardice: they saw the truth and dared not fully step through their own realisation that without an external authority only they and they alone is responsible for what they say, think and do. Refusing to do that, and unable to use the old go-to of some god or set of gods as their source of truth and morality, they picked the worst possible ersatz authority:
The State, that cold and heartless monster that cares for nothing, stands for nothing and becomes the false and empty idol of its own worship and purpose.
Small wonder that they go mad now - their designated Evil One controls the State, their god and saviour.
They cannot be saved from without. They must, each and everyone, save themselves from themselves under their own power. It is up to their victims to what extent they are willing to extend trust or not, forgive or not.
(Hm, vodka and grape tonic makes me preachy it seems.)
You are describing the human condition and honestly. Dishonestly comes from fear. Wash rinse repeat. We seem to not be able to get away from it for long as an “enlightened” species.
C'mon gato, there's no problem a Marxist can't solve:
Problems of morals can be solved by doing away with morals.
Problems growing out of a person's faith can be solved by eliminating religion.
Problems of marriage, home and family can be eliminated by doing away with marriage, home and family.
The problems concerning property rights can be resolved by not allowing anyone to have any property rights.
Reality is just another "problem", with an easy solution; DENY it.
There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent we shall have no more need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed.
But always -- do not forget this, Winston -- always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever.
Here is how it played out in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
"We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation .... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?...
The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if..."
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Edit: updated the name of the country it happened and left out the world Socialist Republics
I would like to think we would make different choices.....then I lived through covid.
Never again. The reputation of the "experts," and trust of the "science" will not be restored in my lifetime.
I'm assuming they will try something new.
We know they will. That robs them of the elements of stealth and surprise. We'll see them coming from miles away.
Bourla this week says that Covid was just a dress rehearsal.
True confessions of a chicken:
Kirk was born in the year I was finishing up University, slogging through lefty prof classes, and doing my tiny part to “resist” in campus activism with one other guy. Lol
I almost feel ashamed that in 30+ years Kirk managed to grow up and courageously do what I did not though I had the inclination.
Instead I succumbed to the banality of life.
As a young person I could have, should have stepped up.
but with the time Kirk no longer has, YOU DO, and you CAN change up how you go forward. you don't have to "regret" as a dead feeling, but to "atone" is a verb that involves doing.
so you're not quite yet off the hook.
(wink)
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I’m highly informed and all of that but lost my window to do what he did.
The writing on the wall has been very clear for a long time.
We just didn't have our dark glasses on!
Many still prefer to believe lies, rather than face the truth.
Many just sailed through the crisis on the ship of state and are none the wiser.
Big Mama and Big Papa protected us from the deep sea monster that rose up to devour us!
If people do not cling to this belief, their whole reality construct will crumble!
They cannot face that possibility.
Believing lies comes from fear.
The fear of lies presented as fact which are purported to harm. Fear of straying from the official, authorized and acclaimed reaction to the lie. Fear of being ostracized from the group which has already accepted the official reaction as the true and only path forward, whatever that may be.
This right here, I live by it, daily. “ come ahead then” “ molon labe” “ better send your best”!
Most people are reluctant to kill, until they have to to live and protect those they love.
Cognitive dissonance prevents people from believing, that there really are those who fully intend to harm or even kill them, for whatever reasons.
They freeze, clinging to their preferred reality, and denying the real reality confronting them.
By the time people are shocked out of their frozen reality, it may be too late to resist.
They are imprisoned in physical or psychological prisons, the gates are closed and locked.
Those inside and outside the prison walls are both imprisoned by fear.
Westerners have been warned again and again for a long time.
Nah we are free people - we cannot be imprisoned.
So be it.
Agreed. Early in my life I was an instructor at a US Marine base. I grew up hunting. I think I was 15 when I took down an animal to eat and did it with my hands and a knife. Those that killed animals and ate them with their family can make that jump to humans faster than you think. They choose not to.
https://mail.yahoo.com/m/folders/1/messages/AB64mQJJThf-Uq22pH7gsxFE39Q
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I won't open a link like that without some context
Ok sorry. It’s a different substack written by a regular poster to gato by name of Kunsler. Many of the posters in our comment section also host smaller substacks. 👍🏿
"Death is the solution to all problems. No man - no problem"
Joseph Stalin
That's right.
What's amazing is the only thing these people need to do to show they're human, is to simply hold two thoughts in congruence with each other:
I can disagree with someone as fervently as I also believe they're human.
Seems like a pretty low bar to participate in a civilization...
YOU DON'T TALK TO NAZIS YOU PUNCH THEM
Yes. The elites call us nazi, not because they believe it, but to give their supporters permission to kill us.
It is a terrible and awesome thing that happens when other men set out to create all other men in their image.
it's their game of "lets you and him fight"
If Democrats REALLY thought MAGA Republicans were Nazis, the party wouldn't have boosted them in the 2022 midterms.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/democrats-strategy-boost-maga-republicans-vindicated-n1299116
Maybe they were just trying to recruit for the Anti-Semite Anti-Nazi party?!
I’m old enough to remember that since Reagan, every Republican candidate for president in America has been label “Nazi.” Even the Bushes. Later we found out of course that the Clintons and Bushes were besties and would vacation together. I remind my lefty friends of this.
When everyone is a Nazi, no one is a Nazi (and the term is cheapened and becomes almost meaningless.)
Just don't forget that the first step in this plan is to make God in their own image.
Scientism is a religious cult.
They call us Nazis because Nazis are by definition unreasonable. It lets them off the hook for having civilized debate when they marginalize and imply sun-human status. It’s a weasel move actually.
The part of that bit which truly amuses me is that I was a teen with some serious anger management problems who went out and picked fights with the local skinheads.
Of course, I was punching people who identified *themselves* as Nazis.
These asshats want to punch people that *they* identify as Nazis.
It's rather a different take on things.
We do have some things in common, don't we?
From an adult perspective I'd question the political awareness of the skins with nazi-symbols back then, but that they were nast customers in search of a punch-up there's zero doubt.
Said it before, I'd really like to see the pundits and wokesters crying "nazi" go up against some of the guys I remember. I once saw a dozen or so of them charge straight into well over a thousands red-wing protesters without a second thought, just laying into them.
Let's see Tim Waltz or Anne Applebaum handle that!
They may have been basically retarded and just using Nazi symbols for shock value, but they certainly went around beating up gays and non-whites, so, I figured they were fair game.
You're judging me. DON'T JUDGE ME!!!
In light of this common refrain, I find the typical English language translation of Genesis 19:9 rather… curious.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019&version=NIV
I’m down for the striking down with blindness part. I liken that to loony Coof response. The nonesense was so irrational, it revealed those who are blind.
That's what's so fascinating about that Georgian bank-robber:
His horrible statement is 100% correct, but it's also 100% wrong.
I know who yer tawk’n about!😉
It’s inconvenient so they choose one or the other, not both.
Obviously, not low enough.
Stalin, like all dictators, tended to be a bit narrow minded and short sighted.
All people are not the problem.
Bad people are the problem.
How to get rid of the baddies, so the goodies can thrive, is the dilemma.
The baddies appear to be cranking up the meat grinders worldwide.
Endless, indiscriminate, unjustified slaughter is not the answer.
The baddies do not seem to understand this.
Or they do ...
But their goal is not actually international peace and prosperity for all.
Stalin seemed a bit indiscriminate about his, “off with their heads” murder schemes. Do you think he became drunk with power in the usual way? He got worse after being in office.
“Bad people are the problem.” What to do with that pesky human nature! This is often the dispute I have with lefty friends. Is human nature basically good, or is human nature basically bad and/or prone to failure regarding his fellow man?
I think these days they still answer that humans are basically good (therefore “prison doesn’t work,” etc….) but in the case of assassinations and BLM looting, the “Evil Orange Man made them do it.”
That’s when we must remind that humans are responsible for their own actions and blame cannot be shifted to someone else.
Is human nature basically good or basically bad - that is the question.
People tend to take a position and defend it regardless.
In my observation and experience, people from cultures with solid moral foundations tend to be good, while those from cultures without solid moral foundations tend to be bad.
However, there are always exceptions.
There are likely to be some good people and some bad people in all cultures/religions/groups, even families.
I read some very solid input from a person who moved from a culture without solid moral foundations, to one with solid moral foundations.
He said it took him decades to make the adjustment to realising, that most people in a moral culture are moral.
He continued to expect people to be basically immoral for a long time, because that was what his cultural conditioning had programmed him to expect of others.
I think people from basically moral cultures, tend to expect all people to be basically moral people regardless.
This is not the case.
Some people claim that everyone shares the same basic human values.
Criminals, terrorists, mafia, corrupt players at all levels ... ?
Liars, thieves and murderers, overt and covert, at all levels ... ?
I lived and worked in the Middle East for over 10 years and spent time in a lot of various countries in that part of the world. The #1 thing I quickly learned was that not everyone is like us or has our values of basic human morality and decency. Not by a long shot. It was a sobering realization I had in my 20's and it influenced how I viewed the world and other people from that point on.
Crazy. I actually made your exact point to a friend earlier today about expectations. The context was Anglos are often more open to illegal immigrants than legal migrants are. 👍🏿
Thanks for your nice post.
said the leader of the Union of Soviet Socialists Republics
Canada is offering assisted suicide in lieu of healthcare. This eliminates the problem of paying out pensions and over-impacted hospitals.
And Gato, you are being too kind to the "not insignificant portion of America" that is eager to swallow whatever they are fed by the bad guys. They may not all be bad, immoral and stupid, but most of them have some combination of those qualities.
They could be nice and stupid.
I know more than a few of those!
Lacking in life experience and/or bubble wrapping their ego which chose the wrong group to join.
And also, just because you commit a crime, doesn’t mean you’re a criminal!
"Problems of morals can be solved by doing away with morals." Quite right. Or "getting rid of morals solves all moral problems."
https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/tactical-morality
Chaos is the result.
Actually, there’s no problem a Marxist can’t make worse.
Now you're talking Ryan. Sir Gato of Malo seems to believe "this is past “culture war”".
A guy named Alex from a hundred years ago talked about the rise of the Marxist and what trained Marxists do.
“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying."
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
It is 1925 Spain in the US right now and this is bad for everyone. I am so happy team Charlie which is highly armed did not decide to deal with the "Commie" right now. Because the other side is itching for a fight and has no problem burning down the place.
Agree with your take.
I believe its important to stop using terms like “Soviet Russia” and use Union of Soviet Socialist Republics to remind people of Socialism. I also do not use words like Progressive, Liberal or Leftist and prefer to call them Commies, as it sets them off to explain why they are not Commies.
Example:
Commie says: Dave, your a fascist
I say: that makes you a Commie
Problem is: if I deny reality, I do not exist.
However, the person in the mirror constantly asserts my existence!
Gotta find a way to deal with the person in the mirror.
Smash the mirror!
Don't look into any still water!
Do not associate with anyone who acknowledges my existence!
Do not let my reality apple cart be upset by any means!
Lost cause.
Gonna hafta face reality regardless.
You describe the basic problem we have. It is a question of honesty. Denial of reality is being dishonest in all its applications.
agreed, fantasy land is a very dangerous place since it allows you to operate without conscience
Woowh ... food for disturbing thought.
Exactly where do military operations, religions and Disneyland fit in here?
Not to mention governments and the MSM.
Too disturbing to contemplate, unless fully dressed in reality defense armour.
Bit hard to acquire that these days.
Considered outdated, unnecessary and useless.
Reality is pre-processed and packaged for ready consumption.
No need to question the source, read the label or examine the contents.
Just eat and enjoy life in Fantasyland!
I would say further that for many people, it is "if I deny reality, it doesn't exist."
Ok you all are giving me a case of the sads. I will now retire to my safe space and dress up as my favourite fuzzy animal.
You summed their entire modus operandi up quite nicely for them. Well done.
Or, just eliminate the source of the carbon, ahem…. problems.
Eliminate the humans.
North Korean refugee Yeonmi Park said the Columbia was more conformist than the country she escaped from. MSM ignores immigrants like her. Meanwhile, Walz praises the CCP because he wishes he had that level of thought control.
I've tried to get lefty friends to read her book.
No takers thus far.
Maybe they fear they'd recognise themselves in her description of the regime of the DPRK.
The lefties are just mad because this is the first time in 40 years they've had to acknowledge the "receipts", let alone defend them.
We're winning. Keep letting them talk; their words will eventually default them from the bracket of ideas.
I would not count your chickens before they party.
I SO hope you're right about this!
I just want to mention that Walz picked the anniversary of Tiananmen Square pie party for the day he married his wife. Wow that is some loyalty to the party he showed doing that. For perspective, thats like an American picking 9/11 to get married after spending years working with Hamas in the Middle East.
If your not familiar with the British Ambassadors description of what happened in Tiananmen Square
"STUDENTS LINKED ARMS BUT WERE MOWN DOWN INCLUDING SOLDIERS. **APCS THEN RAN OVER BODIES TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO MAKE QUOTE PIE UNQUOTE AND REMAINS COLLECTED BY BULLDOZER. REMAINS INCINERATED AND THEN HOSED DOWN DRAINS."**
British Embassy is just down the road from Tiananmen Square. You might imagine why the British Government was not happy with Julian Assange for leaking this document.
Or, you watched it live on TV like me.
Read this from Alpha News in Minnesota: https://tinyurl.com/5t46hxrt
The University of Minnesota had a border patrol webinar advertisement up and the professors were outraged.
Where else on this planet can you just walk into another county, do as you please and expect no consequences?
As a world traveler, I haven't experienced any.
Fantasyland?
Their safe space was invaded. The safe space which is paid for by taxpayers and parents but they believe is owned by the Uni collective. IMO, they require a reminder to solve their honesty problem. Their reality does not match up with their fantasy.
Colombia btw 👋🏿
"but i think a lot of them are starting to have suspicions." I don't see it happening, at least not in my social media circles. They are doubling down, is what I'm seeing. Maybe a few of the smarter ones are realizing how much they've been lied to? I'm watching the Charlie Kirk memorial and know exactly what side of the aisle I'm on. Give me that stadium full of patriots and empathy and love and almost the entire Presidential Cabinet. I don't know how this is going to end but we must defeat the forces of dark. I like what Elon said (he's at the memorial): Charlie was murdered by the Dark for showing people the Light.
I think a lot of people have seen how their social media circles reacted and are leaving the party, which (I think) is what gato is talking about. This DOES have the effect that everybody "left behind" is more extreme than normal.
Extremist distillation.
One of my favorite quotes from John Kennedy “There is a split in the Democratic Party,” Kennedy said. “Unless you have the IQ of a meat thermometer, you can see that. On the one hand, you have the mainstream wing of the party. On the other side, you have what I call the loon wing. They’re fighting like cats in a bag, but the loon wing is winning."
I didn't think of it that way, thanks.
True, and what is more, the new more extreme party will find it increasingly difficult to bring them back.
Essentially, once a formerly faithful member of a party leaves it is permanently.
Yes, the snowball only goes one way. Nobody here is going to wake up tomorrow and trust CNN again. (Traumatic brain injury aside.)
Well the irony is that Trump was a Democrat. RFK Jr. was a Democrat.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/09/oprah-winfrey-told-donald-trump-should-run-office-together/
Exactly. Ditto with Tulsi. She ran in 2020 as a Dem!
Those are the 'normie' Democrats I'm sort of talking about. They come over for their own reasons, but once they make the jump they don't go back.
Antifa is a global organisation. Here is a photo of them from 1925 with the Antifa flag up on the German Communist Party headquarters. They were the street troops of the Communist Party globally and still are. The methods they used to get paid and "affinity groups" has been used for 100+ years.
https://media.scored.co/post/YfefoHDjRILp.jpeg
So were many others including Elon Musk and Tulsi Gabbard. Though they describe it more as a move by the democrat party (stage left), not a move by themselves.
I hope that's true, but i have my doubts. I feel like the people who claim that will be right back there in a couple years, at most.
A lot of this depends on the actions of the democratic politicians in the very near future. Do they actually dial down the temperature or do they double down?
From the looks of things today, they're going to double down.
So the leftie snowball will continue to shrink as the normies peel themselves off one by one.
In order to depart, rational people must be able to find a “home” they feel content with. By which I mean social group. Many are not quite brave enough to lose friends and approval of co-workers.
Yep. And the left knows this. That's why you're forced to say the land acknowledgement or cheer for boys in girls sports.
Like a hazing ritual.
Imagine that - a reverse snowball.
And as that happens, the pressure for the people who became the moderates when the previous moderates left in disgust to do the same will grow.
And this has been happening for years. We saw a lot of it during covid. We saw it with the collapse of the 'very fine people' hoax. We saw it with boys competing against girls in sports. Every issue slices off a portion of the most sane and makes the next purity test more extreme.
but the result is you end up with a pure soldier that will follow ALL orders. You dont need a large number of them. You need enough of them. The United States Revolution saw an America that was British. It only needed "enough", or about 4% radicals to grab another 4% to run with them.
In a bunch of accounts that I read from peoples diaries and biographies, Americans ended up purchasing good English Furniture from those that did not want to be caught up in the "troubles" that went back to England after selling off the furniture, but keeping the property.
I think that a very important distinction is that the settlers/founders built what they knew of as America and their enemies were (mostly) physically in England. Call that a home field advantage or whatever, but they had more support than they otherwise would have.
In the modern case, Antifa hasn't built shit. They only destroy. Everybody hates them except the 'leaders' of the cities were they run wild.
If we had a "Purge" night in Portland, there would be no Antifa in the morning.
We’re already there with the “pure soldier.” When pure soldiers mow down kids they need swift and harsh justice.
Is an afternoon swift enough?
One wood post set deeply in the mud, some twine, and the incoming tide is enough.
Regarding: "They are doubling down". "One of the most constant characteristics of beliefs is their intolerance. The stronger the belief, the greater its intolerance. Men dominated by a certitude cannot tolerate those who do not accept it."
Gustave Le Bon
We are at the point where if they haven't seen through the lies they are brain dead or evil and there is no hope for them.
They are "men without chests" they have no way of regulating their emotions and their thoughts. They have no keel.
Per the 3 Laws of Social Justice Warriors...
1st Law: SJWs Always Lie.
2nd Law: SJWs Always Double Down.
3rd Law: SJWs Always Project.
Until their whole identity changes, you can't change their M.O. as Smug, Nasty, Awful People. You can only use it. Note that there is a significant psychological overlap here with a certain kind of male. See the Sigma Game substack, by the guy who invented the term.
Key word here is: lie.
“This is all for the greater good,” or
“Ends justify the means.”
Or in the case of Fauci, a slight alteration- “The Noble Lie.”
“Key word here is: lie”
Yes, and even more than you think.
First, it starts with consistent lying to oneself. The political ideas often come later.
Second, it isn’t noble. There’s a consistent undercurrent of Duper’s Delight, of reveling in the lie just as they revel in others’ suffering.
Demonic to the core.
Agreed.
“The Noble Lie” is a Jesuit invented justification for who knows what. It provides color of law.
The Noble Lie comes from Plato.
👍🏿
I guess the Jesuits liked it.
I did hear, from the people in the world of tech/AI THAT 80% of the "people" on the social media platforms are bots.
You have fallen for this ‘light’ side vs ‘dark’ side Hegelian dialectic. They are the same side. Evil doesn’t show up with a pitchfork and show you how actually evil it is, it’s going to show you how good it is! ie: The “Golden Age” (lies) ..open your eyes please and study properly all the ‘ideas’ of this Charlie Kirk Character and understand what it really is all about
They have to be smart but also brave because they risk losing their social groups. Being part of and being accepted by a known group is a primal need. It’s scary to jump from one train to another.
Social media keeps the lie going a little longer. It’s like the protection of mucus around a cancerous tumor.
They know they’re likely to lose their friend groups and be confronted with finding themselves, “on the wrong side” which their sense of self cannot take. This is unfortunately human weakness.
Well Elon would know.
One other comment: I grew up in Robbinsdale, MN, a 1st ring suburb of MPLS. I couldn't believe it when Ilhan Omar went to Elim Lutheran church in Robbinsdale and was spewing hate about Charlie Kirk and the attendees (congregants?) cheered. I don't recognize my home town or state anymore.
spent alot of time working in Burnville about 30 minutes away. Ice fishing for walleye on Lake Mille Lacs. Snow mobile Hunting to the Canadian border. Parties at the Mall of America.
Important to point out that Harris was for deplatforming Trump BEFORE January 6th.
https://rumble.com/v6z7kpq-samerules.html
"The bottom line is that you can't have one rule for Facebook and another for Twitter" -- the only way the rules of those sites is the same is if government writes those rules. And that's exactly what Harris wanted.
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop."
As much as Bondi and Carr wanted to make to rip my hair out this last week, it's important to realize how much worse it could have been.
"All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force."
George Orwell
Maybe the best way get at Jimmy Kimmel and ABC would have been for the Kirk family and TPUSA to hit them with a big fat defamation lawsuits. We know how much broadcasting corporations love those.
It's not to late for them to sue Kimmel.
It's not like Kimmel is influencing anyone who isn't already convinced of that point of view. I'd say it's better to have him out there spewing all the vicious things he says on his non-funny show. He has chronically low viewership anyway, will probably not be renewed by ABC in January, and he provides lots of fodder to be mocked on conservative media so people who don't watch this stuff can be reminded of how despicable the left really is.
Still, a successful defamation suite against him would be a great teachable moment. Otherwise he'll keep claiming it was Trump who got him pulled. He'll do that anyway but far fewer people will believe him after him and ABC are forced cough up a few million bucks.
They’ve been swiftly corrected. That’s a clear difference in how the sides will react. MAGA freaked out.
The Left would have doubled down on the authoritarianism. As Rham Emmanuel said, “Never let a crisis go to waste.”
“4 Boxes Diner” channel has really good commentary but was begging the world not to force Bondi out and excused her. She has done some great stuff but it is precisely because we have the blessing of speech that we can correct with a verbal backlash when/if there is color outside the lines. Bondi has been problematic since her Florida days.
Didn’t Walz have a snitch line during the Covid debacle era?
Every now and then I fire up the WA snitch line for the laughs.
"THE STARBUCKS INSIDE SAFEWAY IS OPEN"
.........wtf all the starbucks are open.
Edit to add the link: https://www.wethegoverned.com/governor-inslees-informant-army-heres-the-snitch-list/
Good way to highlight and parody the absurdities of that era!
Could be tomorrow too.
Eternal vigilance, something something….
Yes, he did.
Yes he did.
"Because today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups... So I ask, in my writing, What is real? Because unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms. I do not distrust their motives; I distrust their power. They have a lot of it. And it is an astonishing power: that of creating whole universes, universes of the mind. I ought to know. I do the same thing."
Philip K. Dick
Well Dick just described a soup bowl of various ingredients, didn’t he. A “Buddha Over the Wall soup,” except made with snakes, demons, and nightshade berries. https://www.wokandkin.com/buddha-jumps-over-the-wall-soup/
Since there is so much history now accrued on how toxic these elements listed actually are, maybe the takeaway is to shift away from the entire toxic collection.
I fear a combination of the generalized DUMBING DOWN and a current propensity to see things not as they are but as people wish them to be leads people to think this time it's different. "What we learn from History is that no one learns from History."
Otto von Bismarck
I think Otto used that fact to best advantage.
Seeing things as we wish them to be could be both good or bad under previous circumstances, but not when video games and transhumanism are prescribed as the answer. You will own nothing and live with your VR glasses in a pod. (The bug protein enhanced with fake meat cancer cells will taste like steak.)
Sorry, I hope this glimpse at the potential dystopian future doesn’t serve to shock and horrify.
It was foreseen in an earlier time: "People will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think." Aldous Huxley
More recently Ziggy could see it coming: "Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."
Zbigniew Brzezinski
OT: You know incidentally that A Huxley’s brother was a famous scientist- I seem to remember related to the area of CRISPR and early transhumanism. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqReeTV_vk
Brzezinski was a Rothschild demon.
The Huxley Brothers, Orwell, Koestler, Hoffer, London are all people I read in my youth. An interesting thing about Ziggy and Kissinger, they foretold so much that has and is transpiring. They're all brothers in the same lodge. "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
David Rockefeller
"perhaps i’m just being optimistic, but i think that a lot of them have no idea how badly, comprehensively, and consistently they have been lied to."
I've found that these same types are of they type never to admit they were duped or lied to. They can't admit they were fooled. They double down.
I've had this experience a couple times in the past week, both about the covid response. They just can't admit they were lied to. And doubled down on "perfect vaccines" (her words, not mine), masks, 6 feet, lockdowns. It was insane.
Play Socratic method. They’ll either double down on “The Noble Lie” or get angry and shut down the convo.
Remain calm, be polite, and avoid using the word “you,” instead speak of “people.” If they get emotional, erratic, and crazy they have only themselves to blame.
The part about using the word "people" instead of "you" is really important. I've seen that in my debates with my idiot brother.
Yes. So important. I learned this from Jordan Peterson. It makes the difference 100%. It relieves them from feeling their ego is being attacked.
Also calling them out in a nice way when they lob thoughtless ad hominems.
While everyone is in agreement that we live in insane times, everyone thinks the other side is insane, while their side is where sanity reigns. What is truly insane is that so many people are so siloed they do not see the preposterousness of this situation. They accept it as "normal". Is this vaccine neuropsychological damage? Is it propaganda/brainwashing? Is it "psywar" as Robert Malone calls it. Or is it just the veil being lifted from how stupid so many of us can be. I include myself, as I have been fooled again and again. It's a Barnum world as the movie says.
it's the plan to divide and conquer.
Things certainly do seem foggy and gelatinous, but I'm still counting it as living in reality to have not complied with the mass ritual poisoning.
We saw fierce correction of Bondi by MAGA and the ratio-ing of Trump by his base on Truth Social after his first statements this year about Epstein. I think this tells you that the system is (mostly) functioning nominally on one side of the playing field. 🙏
Be a polite doubter. Look to see what’s coming over the horizon. You’ll be ok next time.
"Light em up!"?!
That's a 2nd Amendment situation if there ever was one.
Good God. I had not seen that video. They should have [done something in return], and whoever gave that command ought to be in prison.
That was completely outrageous
Bad really bad times are coming
I refuse to "tolerate" these thugs and the degenerates they take their orders from. They are red coats.
Yeah that would have gone a whole lot different here, and it would include a massive firefight. WTF are these nuts thinking? In America? You die for that shit. At least down here you do.
Fortunately I don't live in a town or have a front porch that can be seen from the road. I would have made the news.
Yes
Does anyone pay attention to "Jazz Hands" Walz of "Stolen Valor" Blumenthal? As El Gato Malo points out, the Venn diagram is now two separate circles. Charlie Kirk pushed for "civil discourse." How can that happen when there is no civility from the left?
I suggest we start engage even more in civil discourse by ourselves. There will be FOMO. They should always be invited to participate.
The world will notice the difference in messaging and response. Rational and calm versus erratic and lying. The truth declares itself. Shine a light on it.
“The solution to misinformation is more information, not less.” (Sic) Jordan P.
All makes perfect sense to any logical thinking person.
However I hope I wrong in saying it won’t make one tiny bit of difference in the next election cycle. The stinking mess that is the current democratic platform will still get an enormous number of votes from the stinking mess from the Democratic base. They will line up in mass and vote for a horse turd shaped like a “D”.
Even I know what chess move is appropriate there.
You know that tiresome Maya Angelou quote that the left always smugly trots out to slander us? Dear little leftist children, this time we're gonna apply it to you.
That "when someone shows you who they are, believe them" quote?
Honestly, after the attempt at using OSHA to mandate the vax and censoring people who objected, the most shocking part of this whole affair is watching centrists get blackpilled over the left.
This is what they are. It's not clear to me how many times they have to show us before it sinks in.
They succeeded in making me vote a Republican ticket for the first time in my life this past November. Not merely that but to vote it joyfully.
And I ain't no ways a conservative, never belonged to a party and still don't.
But I know who wants me to lose everything and who don't.
> They succeeded in making me vote a Republican ticket for the first time in my life this past November. Not merely that but to vote it joyfully.
This.
You've seen me say this before but I'll say it again: It was as though a great abscess had been lanced and all the anguish of the previous years of Our Plague Era was draining away.
The most extraordinary feeling. Like health was going to be possible again.
It only counts when THEY say it.
Cultural Marxist Appropriation (or something)
"where there is no goodwill from others, reciprocal goodwill towards them is a vulnerability and when dealing with a tribe that sees vulnerability as opportunity, it will cost you dearly."
It is hard when the person who has adopted membership of that other "tribe" is your own flesh and blood, your own offspring. You self-censor expressing your views on so many things to avoid triggering their confirmation biases that you are either "evil" or "stupid" or both. You hope to keep the door to communication open so that one day there might be some word you say that will be received as useful, helpful, or wise and caring. But eventually you realise there is no remnant of good will towards you left towards you within them. Only entitlement and injustice-collecting when you express hurt or set some kind of limit on what you are able to tolerate in a good-natured way.
When the bifurcation of the Venn diagram into two completely separate spheres occurs within your own family, it is helpful to have a good cognitive map of what is going on so i thank "bad cattitude" for that. But is still bodily shattering somewhere deep in your heart.
My family’s bifurcation happened last Thanksgiving. They left us. I have no feelings about it anymore. The sane ones are a comfort. We have fun and love. . The reality challenged are the losers, drowning in hate and suspicion.
That’s terrible. Pray they come around.
Correct. It is very hard and painful. However, if you leave the cage door open the bird may return. If you slam it shut it is much harder. Which does true love demand?
The lie becomes true if you believe it.
(Doesn't affect objective reality of course, but that's secondary.)
And belief does not rely on factual evidence but adherence to dogma and creed.
(No, that's not a slur on any religious faith; it's a description of the mechanism of belief.)
And belonging to group is one of our strongest impulses.
(It's strong enough to compete with sleep, food and sex.)
And being good, empathic and kind is something we condition each other to think we are.
(As opposed to be rational, logical and calculating without conscience, despite this being a false dichotomy.)
So: tell lies in such a way that anyone questioning them is either evil, stupid or simply callously inhumane, and project an aura of goodness via the chanting of the creed, and a minimum of 1/3 of all adults will believe you, will want to believe and will defend their belief in the face of evidence and empirical data.
This is in no way unique to the left or the woke; it is a set of mechanisms that can be exploited by any group seeking power over the minds of others.
Therefore, there's no one single way of resisting and breaking free by taking control of your own mechanism. Rather, any way that achieves freedom of Will is the right way.
And the above is what led them astray: they concluded that if this is so, then everything is equally meaningless and the lie is the only truth.
This is cowardice: they saw the truth and dared not fully step through their own realisation that without an external authority only they and they alone is responsible for what they say, think and do. Refusing to do that, and unable to use the old go-to of some god or set of gods as their source of truth and morality, they picked the worst possible ersatz authority:
The State, that cold and heartless monster that cares for nothing, stands for nothing and becomes the false and empty idol of its own worship and purpose.
Small wonder that they go mad now - their designated Evil One controls the State, their god and saviour.
They cannot be saved from without. They must, each and everyone, save themselves from themselves under their own power. It is up to their victims to what extent they are willing to extend trust or not, forgive or not.
(Hm, vodka and grape tonic makes me preachy it seems.)
You are describing the human condition and honestly. Dishonestly comes from fear. Wash rinse repeat. We seem to not be able to get away from it for long as an “enlightened” species.
It’s the Walz Waltz he’s been doing this for awhile stepping on his own feet and off time with the music.