It seems SCOTUS is in a bind. It either releases the decision that's been leaked, or it releases a different decision (with some sort of explanation that no one will believe) and its reputation and integrity is destroyed. In world where there had been no leak and had the decision been to uphold Roe, pro-lifers, like myself, would have been disappointed, but not surprised really. Now, all bets are off. What a mess.
The chief justice already "released" an accurate description of the "leaked" report - and it is not a decision, it has not been voted, it was one of SEVERAL working documents being prepared for discussion by the justices. He was VERY clear it was not an action of or by the court, never voted nor proposed to be voted, nor in anyway a decision of the court. His words have been ignored.
RvW has been built up to be a tinderbox under a powder keg attached to a nuclear destructive device: the mere mention of "repeal Roe" is sure to spark violent reactions. So now we have it: this entire fiasco is about intimidating the court. It seems to be working.
Yes, I read Roberts' statement. I guess my point is, depending on the final ruling, the opposing side will have a grievance. The pro-aborts are having their tantrums now whereas if the ruling ultimately upholds Roe, pro-lifers will have to wonder what effect, if any, the actions and rhetoric of the pro-aborts had on it. I totally agree that there could be violence.
According to Roberts, there may be no final ruling. His position seems to be they can address the case in front of them without reopening Roe. I would imagine now the other justices will agree to leave it alone. The threat of violence (and in particular the threat of violence to them personally) surely supports such a conclusion. Which I am now convinced is exactly why this document was leaked.
Oh. I understand your point now. And that approach certainly fits Roberts' style and how he has led SCOTUS thus far. He is all about maintaining court integrity and reputation at all costs. Again, this leak may have upended even those intentions, though. The ultimate irony is that the Court may/will lose credibility with both the Left and the Right and instead inject more chaos into our system. I guess that, too, is a "win" for those of a certain political persuasion.
Whatever it does, the court will uphold the Mississippi statute. To do that, it has to overrule Roe and Casey. That's a big deal already, even if it rules that abortions in the first trimester have to be allowed.
I believe someone elsewhere wrote that Justice Roberts was trying to convince some to rule that, basically, "the Mississippi statute doesn't violate Roe v Wade", so that in theory it would still stand. Though I can't see that actually making a lot of sense legally.
I hope you are wrong. But I am already hearing about protests being organized at the homes of various Justices...
It seems SCOTUS is in a bind. It either releases the decision that's been leaked, or it releases a different decision (with some sort of explanation that no one will believe) and its reputation and integrity is destroyed. In world where there had been no leak and had the decision been to uphold Roe, pro-lifers, like myself, would have been disappointed, but not surprised really. Now, all bets are off. What a mess.
The chief justice already "released" an accurate description of the "leaked" report - and it is not a decision, it has not been voted, it was one of SEVERAL working documents being prepared for discussion by the justices. He was VERY clear it was not an action of or by the court, never voted nor proposed to be voted, nor in anyway a decision of the court. His words have been ignored.
RvW has been built up to be a tinderbox under a powder keg attached to a nuclear destructive device: the mere mention of "repeal Roe" is sure to spark violent reactions. So now we have it: this entire fiasco is about intimidating the court. It seems to be working.
Yes, I read Roberts' statement. I guess my point is, depending on the final ruling, the opposing side will have a grievance. The pro-aborts are having their tantrums now whereas if the ruling ultimately upholds Roe, pro-lifers will have to wonder what effect, if any, the actions and rhetoric of the pro-aborts had on it. I totally agree that there could be violence.
According to Roberts, there may be no final ruling. His position seems to be they can address the case in front of them without reopening Roe. I would imagine now the other justices will agree to leave it alone. The threat of violence (and in particular the threat of violence to them personally) surely supports such a conclusion. Which I am now convinced is exactly why this document was leaked.
Oh. I understand your point now. And that approach certainly fits Roberts' style and how he has led SCOTUS thus far. He is all about maintaining court integrity and reputation at all costs. Again, this leak may have upended even those intentions, though. The ultimate irony is that the Court may/will lose credibility with both the Left and the Right and instead inject more chaos into our system. I guess that, too, is a "win" for those of a certain political persuasion.
Whatever it does, the court will uphold the Mississippi statute. To do that, it has to overrule Roe and Casey. That's a big deal already, even if it rules that abortions in the first trimester have to be allowed.
I believe someone elsewhere wrote that Justice Roberts was trying to convince some to rule that, basically, "the Mississippi statute doesn't violate Roe v Wade", so that in theory it would still stand. Though I can't see that actually making a lot of sense legally.
I hope I am wrong. But I'm not.