“It is in Christianity that our arts have developed; it is in Christianity that the laws of Europe--until recently--have been rooted. It is against a background of Christianity that all of our thought has significance. An individual European may not believe that the Christian faith is true, and yet what he says, and makes, and does will all spring out of his heritage of Christian culture and depend upon that culture for its meaning...I do not believe that culture of Europe could survive the complete disappearance of the Christian faith. And I am convinced of that, not merely because I am a Christian myself, but as a student of social biology. If Christianity goes, the whole culture goes.”
― T.S. Eliot, Christianity and Culture: The Idea of a Christian Society and Notes Towards the Definition of Culture
El Gato Malo's quote about the golden rule boils this all down:
"this was not a global phenomenon. it took hold in only a few places. this is because this is not a global ideal. most of the world views the whole of this golden rule conception as laughable, naïve, and even immoral. if you can cheat someone to benefit your family or your tribe, to do so is your ethical obligation. fair or even handed play is a failure of duty. it’s immoral NOT to cheat if you think you can, it’s immoral not to steal if you think it would benefit your in-group. this is not an idea that can be integrated with the high-trust, high function western world"
This is so absolutely on the mark, and Westerners/Western leaders simply don't understand this. I spent over a decade in the Middle East and one of the first things I observed and learned was that their concept of "truth" was not at all like ours in the West. They will earnestly tell you what they believe you want to hear, and even if it's a total lie, they simply do not view that "lie" in the same way we do.
Though the west overcame tribalism to some extent as technology and populations grew, human beings clearly haven't cast that off and this reality is what is being exploited to topple the western traditions that have shown some real success to advance the cause of freedom. Tribalism was essential for survival when human population was sparse, but if we are unable to overcome this more animal nature in today's reality we will not survive IT.
It is precisely western in-group tribalism that is causing the problems - along with the belief that all that nasty mammalian emotion based stuff is behind us now. Everything on the planet is exactly as evolved as everything else and tribalism is never ever going away. Integrate symbiote. Submit to the horror of your nature.
Having lived for a long time in the Middle East, I was able to observe tribalism in its most basic form. This is a part of the world that has always been truly tribal in nature. A person's survival and loyalty was to the tribal leader, and tribes were generally quite small and nomadic. They were not educated, they didn't recognize these invisible borders assigned to countries, they didn't see themselves as citizens of a particular nation but rather as a member of a specific tribe. In modern times, despite the designation of various countries (which would change politically from time to time...think of Pakistan and Bangladesh and how they were created), for so much of the populations everything remained very tribal and local in nature. If you look back into history, Westerners were also tribal. Indian tribes. Tribes across Europe. As those tribal affiliations faded, something had to replace it. I've concluded that humans are inherently tribal in nature. Some tribes are worse than others.
It can be extremely disorienting for people (like me) from western backgrounds to be around people who's perceptual layers are primarily tribal. That cognitive mechanism is (or so it seems to me) displaced by the modern world. Seemingly obsolete in urban contexts, yet so fundamental to human interaction...I view this as one area where evolutionary pressure is near maxima. Will the resulting mutations prove viable? Stay tuned!
what is wrong with western tribalism in the face of being wiped out? Do you see China or Japan embrace such thoughts? Is South Africa embracing its white minority?
Being Black, brown or green is just fine. Respecting but not assimilating our differences is the point. I respect and allow you to be white, or whatever you are.
It is not racist to enjoy or desire your race. A racist hates you for what you can not change.
Not sure how your point pertains. I guess tribalism can be equated to race, though it's a feature of human cognition, not bound to physical morphologies. Varying it's expression according to culture. I think a racist hates others due to emotional stunting and an inability to integrate "other." See Carl Jung for comprehensive exploration of this idea. Dale Mathers also has much to say - as do many others. There's no mystery to racism.
My point is that the reality denial prevalent in Western Liberal thinking and the concomitant overt exclusion of other perspectives, often violently, is a result of low self identity and excess group identification - i.e. tribalism, but an unbalanced location of self within the community. Tribal identification is part and parcel of human identity, we are hard coded for it. But it can take negative forms.
Whoever wishes to foresee the future must consult the past; for human events ever resemble those of preceding times. This arises from the fact that they are produced by men who ever have been, and ever shall be, animated by the same passions, and thus they necessarily have the same results.
Self-awareness is required, as well as a value system. I do think there's a difference from the in-group tribalism (which is intentionally fueled) of today as opposed to what I brought up regarding the essentialness for survival in more "primitive" conditions. The identity was entirely with the group, the tribe, and the notion of an individual developing free will was an entirely foreign concept. It just wasn't in the field as a possible, let alone a desirable, reality.
Today, it's one thing to get carried away emotionally and lose one's sense temporarily, but it's an entirely different thing to not even blink an eye and feel warranted to go ahead and clock someone, for instance, simply because you have a disagreement or just don't like that person. It's the entire point of having a judicial system and striving for a more just society. It's one thing to have the impulses of doing horrific things, but it's quite another to act upon them with no tangible provocation or justification as a measure of self-defense.
Yea, I can see that. Not so sure about the framing of the archaic, but certainly "modern" man (in the Classic sense of the word) has a serious cognitive deficit when it comes to integrating "other" (in the Jungian sense).
It's interesting to see the effectiveness of the "Orange man bad" pysop. Those mini Mengeles over at Langely sure know how to mind fuck the insecure.
Yes. Schopenhauer's The World as Will and Representation is also a great resource for how to frame cognizance. I also go back to Jung and especially Maria Louise von France for their insight into how unconscious content affects perception.
The Covid Hysteria being a prime and recent example! The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organised habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
It's only advertising really. It's amazing how easily we are programmed. Scary really. I have cultivated a boundary against emotional manipulation and always reject messaging from those who would sway me with emotion. At least I try to - on the assumption I can actually discern when I am under such assault!
My understanding of the Crusades is taking on a deeper & more pertinent relevance.
"The Crusades were organized by western European Christians after centuries of Muslim wars of expansion. Their primary objectives were to stop the expansion of Muslim states, to reclaim for Christianity the Holy Land in the Middle East, and to recapture territories that had formerly been Christian. Many participants also believed that undertaking what they saw as holy war was a means of redemption and a way of achieving expiation of sins."
Historian Tom Holland has written a book ("Dominion") exploring the first part of Eliot's quote. Formerly an atheist, Holland now attends weekly church services. Looking at his Twitter feed, he hasn't completely left libtardom behind. These things take time...
"Religion is the key I of history. We cannot understand the inner form of a society unless we understand its religion." Christopher Dawson RELIGION AND CULTURE 1948. A must read.
I hate to tell him that Christianity is a Middle Eastern blood sacrifice cult. It kept modifying its perspectives as it migrated West because the Hellenized Jews who were its first adherents and evangelists wanted it to sell in all markets.
No, it's not cynical. All cults are bad and all religions are cults etc. etc. And the concept of the Almighty, the Creator, isn't owned by any cult though every cult tries to own it.
It was the Western Enlightenment that freed us to be able to believe according to our own instincts and conscience while living within a society of secular law that grew from the narrowness of religious legalism. That's what makes us unique, here in America, and it's a sad thing that so many patriotic Americans don't actually truly believe in our foundational values. Because we live here you and I are free to believe as suits our conscience and our instincts, and I don't want to convert you and don't want you to have power to force-convert me. "You" in the general sense.
Cynical in the sense that you dismiss the Christian story outright, attributing its spread to grifters hustling around the Levant 2000 years ago (iirc from past exchanges).
A good number of the Philosophes were rabidly anti-Christian, and I believe that destroying Christianity's influence in the world was at the heart of the Enlightenment, appeals to science and unreasonable mankind's "reason" notwithstanding.
Their attempt to craft a morality in the aftermath of chasing God offstage has failed miserably. We destroy life that we deem inconvenient now. Human life is meaningless, if there is no God.
I was where you were. Stay open to it. That's all I have to say. Gotta go...
It’s not a cynical take. It’s a deluded take. Instincts and conscience? Mao, Stalin, Che, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc. all acted on their instincts and conscience. And without objective truth who can say they are wrong. Post modernism and secular humanism is Baal/Molech worship- secular movement is great, right?
Can you give an example of one religion that isn't a blood sacrifice cult? It is only Jesus that said "the meek will inherit the Earth" Even that can be taken 2 ways the Earth or the earth ( about 2X6X6 feet of it). The closest was Buddhism but that was derived from Hindu culture and Siddhartha Gautama looked inward and taught, but did not have a Creator God, but did not dismiss it out of hand.
The Middle Eastern ones are particularly explicit. Blood and purity. The elemental struggle between the profane and sublime. That Manichean thing.
It's the Western Enlightenment that's foundational to this nation, and just as Christianity is not Judaism, the Western Enlightenment is not Christianity.
I've no problem with the cultural expressions of Christianity that inform American life. I love Christmas and the welcoming of spring reflected in bright Easter dresses. I'm sure glad we've moved beyond those awful unconstitutional Blue Laws though.
I'm glad we speak English and very glad Trump has made it our official language though that ain't gonna last through the next Democratic Administration and one will be coming with a vengeance if Trump fails at creating a brand new vigorous party that's shed the skin of the GOP for good.
or is it really is the combination of Christianity and the Enlightenment that allows for Western civilization? that's what we learned in college for decades before the current woke bs
Obviously the Western Enlightenment grew from centuries of Christian universities that eventually could not prevent the hunger for knowledge from breaking free of dogma.
But shining moments in human history soon tarnish. They've got to be cherished and protected. Men like the Founders are rare and even amongst them there was great intellectual tension between those who were Deists and those who were explicitly Christian. They managed a compromise that no other civilization on earth achieved but it has to be fought for in every generation and if one doesn't understand what its values actually are, one can't defend it properly.
Beware how you trifle with your marvelous inheritance, this great land of ordered liberty, for if we stumble and fall, freedom and civilization everywhere will go down in ruin.
"Obviously the Western Enlightenment grew from centuries of Christian universities that eventually could not prevent the hunger for knowledge from breaking free of dogma."
The success of Western Civilization is due to the tethering of the Enlightenment to Christianity - the Hegelian Dialectic. Each one needs to remain in tension with the other. The untethering from Christian values and dogmatic beliefs, giving full reign to the Enlightenment, is the reason our civilization is such a mess right now. "More Enlightenment" is not the answer, it's the problem. It's removed a stable, beneficial value system and replaced it with Globo-Homo Gay Race Communism. Nature abhors a vacuum, and unless civilization finds something "better" and actively works to replace "Abrahamic Sacrifice Cults" (a very tall order), what fills the void will be something far worse. That's what we're seeing now.
Christianity is based on the voluntary self-sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sins. God himself pays our debt, so to speak; we hitch a ride on his virtue because our own virtue is so deficient. The term “blood sacrifice cult” suggests that Christians are sacrificing humans or animals in some bloody ritual, which is not at all the case and not part of Christian religion in any way. While both Jews and Muslims continue to sacrifice animals, to this very day, Christians do not because Jesus made all such sacrifices irrelevant and useless.
I agree with you. your 1st sentence spells out the promise of God and the role of Jesus. The term "blood sacrifice cult" should probably be "blood sacrifice religion." because we are talking about the major religions of the world. Christianity honors the blood sacrifice of the "Lamb of God" because Jesus said at the Last Supper: "Take eat this is my body as he broke the passover bread, and take drink as he offered the wine. The promise of his return would not be as a lamb which all Christians also believe in.
When Ursula tells us, “Our Democracy” she isn’t talking about actual Democracy. More like fake democracy resembling an authoritarian system. Not Democracy at all.
Same with what you are saying. The amorphous description of “Christianity” you cite no longer meets any true definition. Let’s stop calling reality by labels which no longer apply.
The foundational belief of Christianity is that God engendered himself in human form to be tortured and murdered as a blood sacrifice to redeem humanity. That only such blood-spilling could achieve a transcendent goal. That the Creator of the entire universe couldn't make it work any other way.
That incorrect. All of history prior revolved around social cohesion by means of punishing scapegoats. Christ's sacrifice was to be the final scapegoat for all of humanity. He bears all our sins so we can live in peace. That we reject His teaching and example is why man continually lives in a he'll of his own making...
No, that's the historical fact. The existence of Christ is confirmed by contemporary secular historians (Pliny and Joseph of Aramethea) as well as the eyewitness accounts of the Gospels of Mathew and John, and the Gospel of Mark which reflects the first hand account of Peter.
The religious aspect is of course a matter of faith, and was at times misused by those who were in charge for their own agendas. Nonetheless it served as the underpinning of western culture and its legal tradition for over 2 millennia...
"if you try to steal my dog, you are the one who has said your life is worth less than a dog, not me."--Amen! I would absolutely shoot someone for trying to steal my dog--they're a nasty fucker and they deserve it. And yes, I unapologetically value my dogs more than most people--look around and it's not hard to see why that is.
"play stupid games, win stupid prizes."--this is one my favorites and I use it often because, unfortunately, it's often warranted in today mass of stupidity.
It has been several years since we've had pets of any kind. They age and become infirm, and it becomes necessary to make life and death decisions on their behalf. I couldn't bear to do that any more. I had my magnificent German shorthaired pointer for 16 years before I had to have him euthanized. He was the most loyal and loving friend I've ever had, and it broke my heart. I would not have hesitated to shoot someone who tried to do him harm.
andyour dog would not have hesitated to defend you if someone tried to harm you.
As a kid we had German Shorthaired Pointers. Great dogs! I hated to leave home at 18 because of those dogs. Over the years I have had a number of dogs with a big Husky being my lifetime great dog. It was painful with the passing of each of them.
They are great dogs! My parents bred and raised them for several years, and I received Hickory Hill's Tag-A-Long (Tag, for short) as a high school graduation present. I got to pick from the litter, and I chose the least saleable one: he was huge for the breed, but just my speed. My fondest memories are getting down and rolling around with a litter of puppies, and letting them crawl all over you.
We have shared the same HEARTBREAK! Our German forefathers had a very kind religion. They believed that, after death, they would meet again all the good dogs that had been their companions in life. I wish I could believe that too.
So right. Mate! We have a picture of him with a Ben and Jerry's container over his muzzle. (He loved Cherry Garcia!) I hope he's up there with an endless supply, waiting for me. (...and maybe putting in a good word?)
I can use this with pretty much anything. I believe I should be able to shoot you if you try to steal anything from me. A wrapper, a piece of gum, etc.
In the 1990's when crime in NYC was the highest in 100 years and the murder rate was 2,000+ annually the 1st thing the new Mayor Rudy Guiliani had his new police chief do is focus on petty crimes including graffiti which was everywhere. All crime including Murder dropped by over 75% in the first year and continued to drop throughout his 2 terms as mayor (8 yrs). What they proved is that by first focusing on petty crimes the police demonstrated a zero tolerance around crime period and it had a downward impact on all crime. Since then, every single NYC administration has abandoned this policing strategy as well as hiring unqualified DEI applicants. The result of this has reversed all of the crime reduction Rudy Guiliani and his Police Dept accomplished and has made NYC the last place you want to go. Take home message: Nobody said shoot someone for stealing a 5 cent piece of gum, but if they break into your home to get or kill your pet to steal it, a bullet to the head seems the correct response and in America still lawful.
"if they break into your home to get or kill your pet to steal it, a bullet to the head seems the correct response and in America still lawful."
If you can't prove it was in self defense you will be charged with murder. Relatives of the perp will sue you in civil court and likely get a settlement.
You have NO idea what you're talking about sir! In America there is a little thing called the US Constitution and the Castle doctrine. I don't have to prove anything if a strange person who is unrelated to me or my family is standing in my house which they broke into in the middle of the night or anytime all you have to do is prove they meant you harm and you were defending yourself. Happens every day in America. Legal gun owners stand ground in their own homes and shoot and kills the assailant. Thats why all gun owners should follow the law, buy their guns properly, get trained by NRA certified gun instructors, belong to a good gun club, practice safe gun mechanics, and belong to a reputable Gun Owners Legal Defense organization who will defend you in any court in the USA. Over 1 million acts of crime are stopped annually (ie - FBI statistics) by law abiding gun owners with legally obtained guns. Only irresponsible gun owners who don't follow the law get successfully sued.
In Red states what you are saying is generally true. In Blue states criminals generally have more rights than their victims. Lawsuits by families of criminals killed are common. You aren't living in the real world. No amount of training can prevent those lawsuits.
I have never lived in a Blue state and never will. If you live in one you have more to worry about than just criminals breaking into your home. Recently, the corrupt DA in NYC tried to prosecute a law abiding citizen with a permit to carry after he shot and killed a man on the subway (who was a known felon) and who threatened (both verbally and physically) to kill people in a crowded train. There were dozens of witnesses who said the man unprovoked attempted to physically attack innocent people on the subway without warning and if not for this man's heroic act many would have been seriously injured and or died. Yet the Leftist DA had him arrested without cause or investigation for murder (or any family members coming forward). All the charges were eventually thrown out and the man was let go because the higher courts are siding with the law. The tide is turning, especially if you follow the law. Carrying the proper insurance will protect you from civil suits (generally up to $1M). Gun Owners of America and US Concealed Carry Association both offer courses and $1M+ liability insurance along with how to handle yourself with law enforcement after you legally defend yourself.
Take home message remains the same: Stay out of BLUE states period and allow the recent Supreme Court wins for gun owners to settle in. Stop voting for Anti Law and Order Prosecutors in your city and states. Rinse and repeat the other suggestions above. Learn how to protect yourself and your property and accept the police in most cases aren't going to get to you in time to rescue you so you better have a Plan B, C, D and E and be prepared to execute if needed to WIN!
I wish I could take this stance. Sadly, I live in the uk, and besides, my eyesight is so poor I'd wind up shooting both the dog and my foot whilst the antisocial sh1t fled...
That is something I can completely understand! And it seems to have only gotten WORSE! The DUBMONG DOWN has taken its toll. The DUMBER they are the more Hardheaded they are. Consider the average intelligence of the common man, then realize 50% are even stupider.
We told you so. Repeatedly. Since before I was born, even.
But most everyone from socialists to libertarians said we were wrong, fascists, paleo-conservatives, reactionairies, racists, aqnd worse.
There's a cure for this. It is called ethnic cleansing.
Doesn't have to mean killing people. Round'em up, confiscate their assets, and pack their asses home, en masse, treating the project as a total war: meaning the entirety of the state is put to the purpose of achieving the goal of being rid of the shitskins.
Because what else are you going to do? Cede territory? Another integration project?
Doesn't work. Because it cannot, not anymore than dressing up a chimpanzee makes it a human.
that means life as an immigrant has to be hard and require integration.
no welfare, no free housing, no free healthcare. you make in in our society and thrive, or you don't come at all. that's the melting pot. that works and thrives. offering free stuff to masses of low trust people who do not share your morals is like coving yourself in jam and wondering why your picnic has so many ants.
Certainly, no argument from me on that point - I don't think immigrants should be allowed to vote no matter what.
I usually cut it up like this, when debating our issues here:
>Refugee? Check story, check id, put in concentration camp making sure to keep warring tribes apart (also segregating men and women), three square meals per day, weekly doctor's visit to camp, plenty of physical labour (growing food, chopping firewood, et c), and inform the refugee they are welcome to live in the camp for the rest of their days if the please. If they want to immigrate, they have to home and make sure they meet qualifications first.
>Illegal resident, or have illegally passed the border with no mitigating circumstances (such as being a victim of human trafficking): expelled, barred entry for life, if violated then life in forced labour camp unless home nation pays for release and return.
>Legal migrant; must have evidence of being self-supporting from day one, no welfare of any kind barring private insurance, no franchise, may not serve in police, judiciary, politics or armed forces, may not own firearms. After 20 years without violations or criminal activity, may apply for the above privileges.
>Any Swede or citizen may offer to be a "fadder" (old word meaning compater - "extra father" or godfather) for a migrant. The Swede accepts full responsibility for all costs caused by the migrant, and is legally obligated to see the migrant has a place to live, food, et c according to the welfare norm.
Something like the above is what I've argued for, since the early 1990s.
Because it was obvious in the 1980s what happens when you let gypsies, South Americans of the lower classes, negros, afghans and such into the nation. From 1973 Sweden took in Chileans allegedly fleeing Pinochet. By 1976, official data showed that they were 7 times more likely than Swedes to commit any crime, on average.
You can imagine - or look at the FBI data for the USA - what happens when allow MENA or negros in.
Hence, ethnic cleansing. It is essentially the same as not creative perverse incentives, only it is done after the fact, not beforehand.
Trust me, when I say I 1) dearly wish we'd never dropped the old rules for migration (pre-1970s) and 2) that I have zero objections to any other nation applying the same reason as I show above, to myself: it is /their/ choice if the want me in their nation, not my right.
Most of us whose ancestors immigrated came here before the social welfare system was set up. They had nothing when they arrived in most cases, but were willing to work hard and learn new skills to achieve more than they ever could in their home countries. Now when immigrants arrive with nothing, they are given so much help they can in many or even in most cases live better on welfare than they ever did at home, so there is less incentive to work hard, assimilate, improve. Low expectations I guess. I've seen first hand how groups of people live in the Middle East in particular. Some live in hovels (my definition, of course). Some might live in shipping crates. Or in no crates at all. So living in a slum in the U.S. with a roof over their head, electricity and water, and being given free food and medical care and all the other things they might be given by NGOs, that's most definitely a step up. And maybe there's no need to do anything else except take the welfare forever.
Well, that is how it once was in the USA! My Maternal Grandparents passed through Ellis Island and into the USA. They had to learn English and WORK. They eventually became Citizens. Their Son fought as a member of the US Army in Europe in WWII.
the honest immigrants have become citizens. they have a job, they speak the language. those that still put their old country first have no place in the 'new country'. That also goes for a few politicians !
A cat does not become a horse because it was born in a stable.
There are fewer than 10 000 000 of my people left on this planet. My people has lived here, since the Ice Age. The only being that could claim seniority to the land would be a Neanderthal, except they never made it this far North.
Without our nation, we will be made extinct.
When I say ethnic cleansing of what I call shitskins, I mean it. They, all of them, must be made to leave.
Finns, Danes, Norwegians, Walloon, Irish, Polacks, Italians, other European peoples, and Japanese and various other SE Asian peoples except Chinese have never been a problem.
Negros, Arabs, Syrians, Afghans, many many South Americans, Turks, Indians, Pakistanis, and the rest of the usual suspects have always been trouble, have never shown respect, have never assimilated or adjusted and have always made more and more demands backed by more threats and more violence.
you are right. the middle east has always been one big fight. It seems it is in their blood. Not sure about Indian people, we have quite a few around here, usually running hotels and gas stations, and some small stores, and quite a few doctors. we also have lots of Mexican people in the gardening business. One can immediately see who is honest - they work for their money. All the rest is standing with open hands for handouts. Of course the US is quite different from Europe - most of that is already over-populated as is, and now it looks like a sinking ship.
Sir Winston's observation about the Afghans may apply to the ME as well: "The Pashtun tribes are always engaged in private or public war. Every man is a warrior, a politician and a theologian Every large house is a real feudal fortress....Every family cultivates its vendetta; every clan, its feud....Nothing is ever forgotten and very few debts are left unpaid."
And when the indigenous Europeans are colonized and dispersed who will whine about the loss of diversity? It's shockingly unaware and hypocritical policy. What about OUR indigenous wisdom??
At some point the "elites" who perpetrate all this will also end up on the chopping block. They of course don't think that will happen, but it will. They will be shocked, but it will be too late.
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.
"A would-be assassin's bullet was slowed by Roosevelt's dense overcoat, steel-reinforced eyeglass case and hefty speech squeezed into his right jacket pocket."
"Theodore Roosevelt’s opening line was hardly remarkable for a presidential campaign speech: “Friends, I shall ask you to be as quiet as possible.” His second line, however, was a bombshell.
" “I don’t know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot.”
"Clearly, Roosevelt had buried the lede. The horrified audience in the Milwaukee Auditorium on October 14, 1912, gasped as the former president unbuttoned his vest to reveal his bloodstained shirt. “It takes more than that to kill a bull moose,” the wounded candidate assured them. He reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a bullet-riddled, 50-page speech.
"Holding up his prepared remarks, which had two big holes blown through each page, Roosevelt continued. “Fortunately I had my manuscript, so you see I was going to make a long speech, and there is a bullet—there is where the bullet went through—and it probably saved me from it going into my heart. The bullet is in me now, so I cannot make a very long speech, but I will try my best.” "
Yes, ASSASSINATION and attempted assassinations seem to have haunted the usa. In my lifetime 22NOV63 stands out as a watershed date! "The important thing to know about an assassination or an attempted assassination is not who fired the shot, but who paid for the bullet."
this should be law. especially for those that are in the government. But recently someone published a list of about 30 democrats who are double nationality US and Israel. How lawful is that? And the English language should have been made the one and only in the US, IMO. I come from a 3 language country where these languages are not obligatory thaught in school, which I think is a must.
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
Marcus Tullius Cicero A question of ALLIGENCE? Conflict of interest?
Islam calls for the cleansing and subjugation of non-believers. It is a religion of peace only to other believers (of Islam). We are witnessing a reverse crusade accomplished by exploiting immigration policy rather than through armies.
don't forget that Christianity spread the same way. I know it is 1500 years ago but it is still ongoing. Recently I saw a film of people on the border of Myanmar who were forced out of their old habits and religion, and must adapt to Baptist pastors. The govt is taking the power of the tribal leaders and giving it to the ministers. The young men are taken from the tribes and never seen again. The reporter was with a former tribe member who left the country and wanted to see how his people were doing. They had to sneak in at night and under cover film what was going on.
The critical difference is that the teachings of Jesus, the foundational text of Christianity, preach love for all. This is in stark contrast to Islam which preaches dominance, lying, and killing. This is at the fundamental, theological level.
the new testament is peaceful, or mostly. but the old testament is full of killing and murder. I have only read parts of the Quran, but so far did not come across killing and murder. I am not talking of what is being preached. I do not trust any human preachers, of no religion around.
"Islam calls for the cleansing and subjugation of non-believers."
That would be people who don't believe in god. One of the 5 pillars of faith in Islam is to believe in the gospel of Jesus. Because there is no centralized authority radical Mullah's can interpret scripture to their advantage.
I have a dear friend who is Sufi. He is 100% sure that Islam is a religion of peace that commands him to love everyone as brothers and sisters. Becoming an American citizen was his dream. I don't know anyone more proud to be an American than him. He is the epitome of the kind of immigrants we should be attracting.
It sounds like your friend has his own personal interpretation of Islam. (To be fair, Sufis focus on a more spiritual version of Islam.) Lucky for the rest of us, many (most?) Muslims are better than the religion they follow.
The Quran is billed as perfect, complete, eternal and universal. It is the direct word of Allah passed to Mohammed via the angel Jabril (Gabriel). It is for all people and all times. It cannot be changed. (In contrast, the Bible is inspired by God but written by man. There is wiggle room.) BTW. I can assure you that there is no talk of love in the Quran
In Islam, belief in "god" is not enough. You must believe in Allah and his messenger (Mohammed). Jews and Christians ("People of the Book"), and the polytheists are all unbelievers (the "Kufar"). Back in the day, polytheists had a choice; convert or die. Jews and Christians could convert or live as "Dhimmis", a special category whereby they could live under extreme restrictions in exchange for paying a tax called the "Jizya". If they refused to pay the Jizya, they also were killed. It doesn't matter that the Quran pays lip service to Jesus. If you do not follow the last and final prophet (Mohammed), you have a much lower status.
For a number of reasons, the Jews were especially vilified. Apparently, Mohammed had much more contact with them. In the Quran, they are billed as having outright "refused the message', whereas the Christians "went astray" and, therefore, had less opportunity to receive the message. However, ultimately both groups are "the worst of creatures".
Islam is a horrible belief system. It harms everyone; both the believers and unbelievers.
Thanks for the informed reply! My point was that you can't paint an entire religion with the same brush. "Lucky for the rest of us, many (most?) Muslims are better than the religion they follow." supports that point.
We want immigrants who support American values like my friend. That is the discernment which needs to happen in the west.
I personally love experiencing different cultures and the diverse expressions of creation they represent. Having food from every culture available is a gastronomic delight to the senses.
I think in every religion there are 3 different believer groups. Those that proclaim to belong - the mouth people - usually thinking they are the only believers and suppressing everyone else, or murdering them, even. Those usually know their holy books cover to cover, by heart. Then there are those that do good deeds. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And then there are those that have internalized the religion and have made it into faith. I do not like any institutionalized religion, because hardly any seem to realize they massacre their own religion. It is like those destroying a forest to build a temple. Destroying God's temple to build a man's temple.
"Lucky for the rest of us, many (most?) Muslims are better than the religion they follow." — imo, reeks of cognitive dissonance by asserting they are not faithful to their espoused religion, or they are ignorant thereof. ‘Lucky for us those soldiers marching toward us, fixing bayonets, are better than the army generals they follow.’
That’s not what the texts say about nonbelievers. Islam is peaceful only to the believers, ummah.
Don’t forget that Islam considers lying (taqiyya) obligatory when it is in support of obligatory strategic ends like the spread of Islam.
Non-believers are kafirs, not capitalized, like dogs.
Koran 48.29 ‘Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. ..’.
Koran 5.51 “O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you — then indeed, he is one of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.”
Koran 8.55 Indeed, the worst of creatures in the sight of Allah are those who disbelieve, and they will not believe.
Koran 7.179 They are like cattle. Rather, they are even more astray.
The non-converting kafirs are subject to either death, or subjugation as a lower class and payment of special tax, jizya.
Book O (Justice), Section 9: JIHAD — means to war against non-Muslims…
o9.8 — Jihad is a communal obligation. To fight the kafirs until they become Muslim pay the jizya, or are killed.
o11.5 — Non-Muslims living under Islamic rule must pay the jizya and feel subdued.
o8.7 — ‘Acts that Entail Leaving Islam’. A Muslim can be executed for leaving Islam.
Pete, I don't know where you get your information about Islam. I would suggest you read "Catastrophic Failure" by Stephen Coughlin. The Gospel plays no part in Islam, as Jesus is considered a minor prophet. Your Sufi friend is considered an apostate and heretic, no longer a member of the ummah (community of believers) and historically subject to lawful murder or imprisonment in Muslim countries. There is a centralized authority, the OIS (Organization of Islamic States), that preaches complete submission to Islam for every person in the world. There were two types of preaching Muhammad offered: that from Mecca and that from Medina. His early teachings (Meccan) were full of peacefully reaching out to Jews and other unbelievers. His later teachings (Medinan) were of conquest and murder. The West has been lied to about the "religion of peace." The so-called revelations of Muhammad are subject to abrogation: any conflicts between the earlier teachings are canceled by the later teachings. The Quran is not be considered reading from front to back. Rather, it is to considered as the most recent is controlling. The "Verse of the Sword" (Surah Al-Tawbah, 9:5, instructs Muslims to fight and kill idolaters after the sacred months unless they repent, pray, and give charity. However, it also offers protection to those who seek it after being invited to Islam. Bin Laden, as required by the Quran, called to Americans to accept Islam prior to the attacks in NYC. Bowe Bergdahl's father, with Obama standing at his side in the White House, also gave the same invitation to Islam to the US. This justifies the jihad against the US. Pete, where in history has Islam is now the predominant force in a country through methods of peace? Islam is more a system of total control over the individual than it is a religion. It has always used violence as its means of spreading and control of the people. There is no questioning of Islam or changing it's structure permitted upon pain of death. It will always be a dangerous system of control.
"Your Sufi friend is considered an apostate and heretic"
Yes, he had to leave Egypt during the Arab Spring because of his beliefs.
The point I was trying to make was that you can't paint an entire race or religion with the same brush. Very few Moslem's are radicalized with strict interpretations of scripture like you are promoting.
I don't believe in painting an entire race or religion with the same brush. However, I do take people at their word when the profess a belief in a religion that REQUIRES believers to slaughter unbelievers. Polls of Muslims in the US show more than 90% believe Shar'ia law should replace the Constitution. >90% support the cleansing of Israel "from the river to the sea," or the genocide of every Israeli. These 90% are not "radicalized." They are observant Muslims. Pete, I get your desire to be welcoming. I am welcoming to others. I would welcome your Sufi friend, too, as Sufis tend to be "spiritual" rather than dogmatic. I also want my eyes open to the realpolitik of Islam. How does a "good Muslim" embrace the Western values of the Golden Rule when Islam is anathema to that belief? Accepting Western civilization and the Constitution is in direct opposition to the supremacy of Allah. Even having a non-Muslim friend is considered heretical.
Rikard, I have heard a lot about what has happened in Sweden because of the immigrants. It would be interesting to see a rundown of all the events that led to where Sweden is today. Are the Swedes upset about it, or just accepting?
A rundown of the that would be rather extensive, since it'd start in the 1950s. I'll settle for trying to answer the second question, hope that's okay:
What people think of it, has much to do with age, station or career or profession, experience and knowledge and how infected by the need to virtue signal and be a true believer the individual is.
Most everyone understands that we are in a very real danger of being wiped out, if not by active efforts then by sheer population replacement via birth rates - but to talk about it is a big no-no.
Compare it to talking crime rates for blacks vs crime rates for whites, and what happens to the crime rate of a white are when blacks move in, in the USA; that's how hard the taboo is for many.
So, they live in perpetual conflict between their rational mind and what they can see and read about, and what they are supposed to feel and think and believe.
Plus, the hate-speech laws and the absolute chokehold the state & regime media has on most people over age 40ish makes rational debate and conversation almost impossible; even migrants who say "Enough! You're ruining your nation by doing this!" will be ostracised or quited or accused of being race-traitors by the AWFLs in the media.
Even worse, for some professions in the civil services (such as teacher) you are by law obligated to profess your belief in and loyalty to a set of political ideas called "Värdegrund"; "Core principles". However, the värdegrund is not well defined beyond clichés and slogans ("Everyone is equal in value/worth" f.e.) and violating it is a firing offence, and it is the politically appointed mid-level managers who decide if you are in violation of it - you see where I'm going with this. The accusation itself becomes proof. The people who could speak out the best, the ones who see what's happened and what's about to happen, can't speak for fear of losing their livelyhoods and standard of living.
To cap it off, most are ignorant of the actual costs - financial as well as human-related - that the invasion-migration has. Ca 2%-3% of annual GDP is the low-end estimated net cost. 2%-3% of GDP isn't chump change, it's the difference between recession and boom. Thanks to migration, we've been effectively tied to recession-time austerity policies since the early 2000s.
Between 8 000 - 10 000 annual cases of rape, of which at minimum 85% are carried out by negros, arabs or people from neighbouring regions. About 55% of murders are carried out by the same groups. Thefts, frauds, arson (especially against churches), home invasions targeting the elderly, you name it. Slave trading/human trafficking, drug trade, weapons smuggling, tax evasion, genital mutilation.
That's what allowing the peoples of Africa and the Middle East results in. The USA will be no different, no different at all. It's just that we here have a head start.
And all of it started with people in the 1960s believing in the "melting pot"-lie.
Thank you for such a detailed explanation. Distressingly, so much of what you write already is happening here in the U.S. As an American whose grandfather and great grandfather/mother came from Sweden, I am so sad for what has already happened to Sweden. I hope your own Islamic invasion can be halted and rejected, and the people making trouble should be deported, but I fear that won't happen. People all over need to wake up, but I'm not confident they will do so.
In Texas, they always used to hang horse thieves but they didn’t always hang killers. Why? No horse ever needed stealin’, but some men need killin’. That’s how you preserve a high trust society.
We are ruled by people who despise America's citizens. One party opens the floodgates to immigration; the other does nothing to stop it. The horse is out of the Central American barn and galloping wildly from Texas to Minnesota.
And it is happening only in the lands of what were formerly known as Christendom. The Chinese are not taught the lie that diversity is a strength. The borders of India are heavily guarded. The people of the West have lost their faith. As Nietzsche's madman warned:" What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space?"
We have lost our way. The elites of the West, secularists all, have asserted that men can be women. Secular transubstantiation.
I see it in the light of faith. Formerly Christian lands are being destroyed. Christ has been discarded; the spirit of the anti-Christ is on the rise--destruction of human life in the womb is seen as a right. Euthanasia is gaining traction in the west. Human rights are being trampled. And why not? WEF homunculus Yuval Harari correctly asserts that human rights are a fiction. The notion of human rights arose from the Christian belief that we are all made in the image and likeness of God. No Christianity...no human rights. And here we are...
Most of the web denizens of the UK and EU I encounter are more afraid of visiting the US where they may be arrested for criticizing Trump, oblivious to the fact that what they fear is reality where they live. It's also good to be aware that there are no rainbow flags on city property in Hamtramck, Michigan. Sharia law is closer than you might think.
And the gay mafia was furious over that decision. They felt betrayed because they helped get their so-called marginalized cohorts elected. Imagine having over 22 designated days and months spanning 152 days to celebrate your perversions, but you're still marginalized. Also, these same people voted to allow the Muslim call to prayer over mosque speakers. Ya can't fix stupid.
When you tell them they want to tie you up and throw you off a tall building, they squeal with delight. Because all they heard was We're going to tie you up and everything after the We'll tie you up was ignored.
Both Christianity and Islam condemn homosexuality. Islam does something overt about it. Openly, in their own countries. Will they start tossing people from buildings in the U.S. at some point?
strange that you mention this. last week dad had a rant about Trumps tariffs. I said I don't like the man, but something has to be done. He said, don't post anything against him online they might lock you up. This is in Belgium, so at least, they are aware that in Europe, the freedom of speech I is totally gone, and indeed, they think that making a remark about Trump can get you jailed here!
I am waiting for Trump to lock me up just as I am waiting for all the bad things to happen to me for not complying with getting an experimental injection and wearing a mask indefinitely.
I do not think it will get that far. I was more wary with Biden, knowing him to be dementing, and not sure how the rest of the world would react. Thankfully there was Substack and I noticed we were quite numerous being unjabbed and undiapered.
i really want a sarcasm font. My point is, many of us have disagreed with Trump early and often and have yet to be rounded up and silenced. "You can't call a fascist a fascist" is one of the biggest litmus tests of fascism.
Simillarly, if masks and experimental injections worked and the ramifications were deadly for those of us who refused to avail ourselves of them, we'd be dead many times over by now. So dead and imprisoned, we are not, in the parlance of Yoda.
I lived in Brussels (Wezembeek-Oppem) off and on for 15 years. My dad was part of the international auditing staff at nato. My brother and I were teens. What a blast.
Lol. Has there been anyone arrested for criticizing Trump?? That's all the lefties do all day, and have done for 8 years. Kathy Griffith famously posted a pic holding a bloody Trump head, and yet he still champions free speech while the Dems demand censorship.
When Trump 2.0 happened, all these moronic lefty TV hosts were wailing about how they expected Trump to come after them, perhaps imprison them. Such silly, ridiculous people.
Absolutely. I fee quite at peace, unlike the first 4 years, when I was not sure where the wind would blow! I think Trump has more on his mind than a few old folk making another old folk joke.
The government has made it illegal to defend yourself. It is even worse in other countries than it is here in the US and the UK is totally off the charts insane.
My early suspicion happened as a teen (15 yrs old) when there was a fair in our town and it started to rain hard. I and my friends ran into a tent and sat at a table. There were still beer glasses on the table and some woman told a cop we were drinking (which we were not). He came over and apprehended us and took us to the station, did not listen to our side of what happened but did not give any of us a breathalyzer test, wrote us up, called our parents to pick us up. My father came in mad at me, also did not listen, and punched me in the head as soon as we got outside. That ended my positive opinion of police and my positive relationship with my father.
Later when I was old enough to drive and had a car I would get pulled over because of my record of the fair three years earlier), told I had a tail light out (never did) and they would check out the car ( a '60 VW) for anything suspicious and even gave me a breathalyzer test ( never even drank at that age), and let me go that repeated several times. These days I look at it like I was Ron White in "They call me tater salad".
Reminds me of the scene in Die Hard 4 where Samuel Jackson says to Bruce Willis: "you were going to call me a n-gger, weren't you?" Bruce says: no - I was going to call you an a$$hole, b/c you're an a$$hole.
First, I feel like there is something of a higher order taking place. Why is this happening to mostly western nations? This is a globalist plan that is utilizing the left leaning governments to facilitate a flood of immigration under the guise of humanitarianism and with the aid of multiculturalism to destabilize free societies to the point that controls can be implemented to keep the kind of order that the globalist want. What is useful now will not be useful when/if global communism succeeds with their project.
Second point is that if the invading culture becomes dominant they will not be tolerant, but will force their culture upon the rest of society or crush them. At that point it will be submit or revolt.
Mr. President, you have 350 million people to liberate," Bukele told Trump. "You cannot just, you know, free the criminals and think crime is going to go down magically, you have to imprison them so you can liberate 350 million Americans that are asking for the end of crime and the end of terrorism, and it can be done."
The Holocaust. It all stems from there as I can see. Because of it, and due to it, White people have been made to feel horrible about who they are as a people. It has been written into our text books, our literature, everything our young people read, watch, consume…(coincidentally published/televised, etc by the victims of the Holocaust). We have fallen into the guilt trap and it will continue until we all say enough and realize we are a collective and are pretty darn amazing.
When a black teen can murder a White teen in cold blood for touching him, and you have White people saying it was self defense and blacks raising half a million dollars for him, we have to admit we have a huge problem and self correct.
Holocaust is a big one. Raising kids in the NL, let me tell you it is on the agenda in a big way. But currently clashing with rising islamization. Very explosive. But don't forget slavery. Even here that is a well of everlasting gall to draw from. The kids are asked to FEEL mighty bad about it. In very emotional language. When I attend the field trips I make sure to remind them to feel GOOD about their ancestors who put a stop to it as well. Somehow that topic never gets addressed.
I totally agree but I believe the guilt aspect set in after Holocaust. Holocaust guilt, slavery guilt, White man bad guilt…all wrapped up in our culture. It’s why we have the empathetic sex continuously voting to put our safety at risk by importing the third world. Empathy combined with guilt we should not feel.
The elites know this and are using it as a cudgel, much like the branding of the terms racist and Nazi in the US. To provoke a fearful and shameful reaction
Honestly it applies everywhere since it’s so unpredictable. But probably less so there than Rotterdam, the Hague and even Amsterdam. I wouldn’t not go. Maastricht is lovely. ☺️
Just make sure he/she isn’t naive and keeps his/her wits about him/her! Which he/she would need to do anywhere in the world really…. It will be an enriching experience! Hopefully you can arrange housing as that is a massive bottleneck here atm.
Guilt and shame are the control mechanisms of group psychology; as both emotions lead to inaction, passivity, and self doubt. Its presence in our culture is an implanted feature; not present in 1880 or 1940. Poison the belief in the culture, poison the collective will. It’s the same way a parasite destroys the defense mechanism of a host…
'"'Just call the police' is the wail of a deluded child. You seriously think they're going to get your bike back from some stranger you can barely describe?"
Been there done that. Over a decade ago, I learned the hard way that the police will not help you unless there is a reason that makes them want to. They really are servants of the State, not the people.
My tools were stolen from my car. The cop said that there wasn't anything they could do to help me. Next day, the same guy stole some change out of the car of some cop's grandmother down the street. He was caught within 12 hours.
Those of us with minds of our own and a sense of individuality cannot understand why people let totalitarianism take over. But we can see that there are millions of people who crave totalitarianism. They have no sense of individuality, and no thoughts of their own. Their sense of identity comes from being a follower of whatever movement expresses the strongest totalitarian views. The more repressive the government, the more secure they feel.
William Goldman's "Lord of the Flies" examines this. It is scary as hell. Do not fight totalitarianism with reason. Reason is a dull weapon against cultism. Fight totalitarianism by being visibly more powerful, more resolved to win. The best defense is a good offense. Totalitarians know this, we'd better learn this.
We need to resume using Calvinist philosophy. The good people display their goodness by punishing the bad people. The attempted rapist who couldn’t control himself should be found dead in the street while everyone tells the non-police, “I don’t know what happened. I didn’t see anything. I was just sitting with the family of the little girl and helping them cope with this unfortunate situation.” I hope that the English and Canadians will rise up and expel their leftist / WEFist governments. The Brits took the first step by Brexit.
“It is in Christianity that our arts have developed; it is in Christianity that the laws of Europe--until recently--have been rooted. It is against a background of Christianity that all of our thought has significance. An individual European may not believe that the Christian faith is true, and yet what he says, and makes, and does will all spring out of his heritage of Christian culture and depend upon that culture for its meaning...I do not believe that culture of Europe could survive the complete disappearance of the Christian faith. And I am convinced of that, not merely because I am a Christian myself, but as a student of social biology. If Christianity goes, the whole culture goes.”
― T.S. Eliot, Christianity and Culture: The Idea of a Christian Society and Notes Towards the Definition of Culture
He is 100% correct
El Gato Malo's quote about the golden rule boils this all down:
"this was not a global phenomenon. it took hold in only a few places. this is because this is not a global ideal. most of the world views the whole of this golden rule conception as laughable, naïve, and even immoral. if you can cheat someone to benefit your family or your tribe, to do so is your ethical obligation. fair or even handed play is a failure of duty. it’s immoral NOT to cheat if you think you can, it’s immoral not to steal if you think it would benefit your in-group. this is not an idea that can be integrated with the high-trust, high function western world"
https://substack.com/home/post/p-147450296?source=queue
This is so absolutely on the mark, and Westerners/Western leaders simply don't understand this. I spent over a decade in the Middle East and one of the first things I observed and learned was that their concept of "truth" was not at all like ours in the West. They will earnestly tell you what they believe you want to hear, and even if it's a total lie, they simply do not view that "lie" in the same way we do.
Though the west overcame tribalism to some extent as technology and populations grew, human beings clearly haven't cast that off and this reality is what is being exploited to topple the western traditions that have shown some real success to advance the cause of freedom. Tribalism was essential for survival when human population was sparse, but if we are unable to overcome this more animal nature in today's reality we will not survive IT.
It is precisely western in-group tribalism that is causing the problems - along with the belief that all that nasty mammalian emotion based stuff is behind us now. Everything on the planet is exactly as evolved as everything else and tribalism is never ever going away. Integrate symbiote. Submit to the horror of your nature.
Having lived for a long time in the Middle East, I was able to observe tribalism in its most basic form. This is a part of the world that has always been truly tribal in nature. A person's survival and loyalty was to the tribal leader, and tribes were generally quite small and nomadic. They were not educated, they didn't recognize these invisible borders assigned to countries, they didn't see themselves as citizens of a particular nation but rather as a member of a specific tribe. In modern times, despite the designation of various countries (which would change politically from time to time...think of Pakistan and Bangladesh and how they were created), for so much of the populations everything remained very tribal and local in nature. If you look back into history, Westerners were also tribal. Indian tribes. Tribes across Europe. As those tribal affiliations faded, something had to replace it. I've concluded that humans are inherently tribal in nature. Some tribes are worse than others.
It can be extremely disorienting for people (like me) from western backgrounds to be around people who's perceptual layers are primarily tribal. That cognitive mechanism is (or so it seems to me) displaced by the modern world. Seemingly obsolete in urban contexts, yet so fundamental to human interaction...I view this as one area where evolutionary pressure is near maxima. Will the resulting mutations prove viable? Stay tuned!
what is wrong with western tribalism in the face of being wiped out? Do you see China or Japan embrace such thoughts? Is South Africa embracing its white minority?
Being Black, brown or green is just fine. Respecting but not assimilating our differences is the point. I respect and allow you to be white, or whatever you are.
It is not racist to enjoy or desire your race. A racist hates you for what you can not change.
Not sure how your point pertains. I guess tribalism can be equated to race, though it's a feature of human cognition, not bound to physical morphologies. Varying it's expression according to culture. I think a racist hates others due to emotional stunting and an inability to integrate "other." See Carl Jung for comprehensive exploration of this idea. Dale Mathers also has much to say - as do many others. There's no mystery to racism.
My point is that the reality denial prevalent in Western Liberal thinking and the concomitant overt exclusion of other perspectives, often violently, is a result of low self identity and excess group identification - i.e. tribalism, but an unbalanced location of self within the community. Tribal identification is part and parcel of human identity, we are hard coded for it. But it can take negative forms.
Whoever wishes to foresee the future must consult the past; for human events ever resemble those of preceding times. This arises from the fact that they are produced by men who ever have been, and ever shall be, animated by the same passions, and thus they necessarily have the same results.
Niccolo Machiavelli
Self-awareness is required, as well as a value system. I do think there's a difference from the in-group tribalism (which is intentionally fueled) of today as opposed to what I brought up regarding the essentialness for survival in more "primitive" conditions. The identity was entirely with the group, the tribe, and the notion of an individual developing free will was an entirely foreign concept. It just wasn't in the field as a possible, let alone a desirable, reality.
Today, it's one thing to get carried away emotionally and lose one's sense temporarily, but it's an entirely different thing to not even blink an eye and feel warranted to go ahead and clock someone, for instance, simply because you have a disagreement or just don't like that person. It's the entire point of having a judicial system and striving for a more just society. It's one thing to have the impulses of doing horrific things, but it's quite another to act upon them with no tangible provocation or justification as a measure of self-defense.
Yea, I can see that. Not so sure about the framing of the archaic, but certainly "modern" man (in the Classic sense of the word) has a serious cognitive deficit when it comes to integrating "other" (in the Jungian sense).
It's interesting to see the effectiveness of the "Orange man bad" pysop. Those mini Mengeles over at Langely sure know how to mind fuck the insecure.
The truth of these days is not that which really is, but what every man persuades another man to believe.
Michel de Montaigne
Yes. Schopenhauer's The World as Will and Representation is also a great resource for how to frame cognizance. I also go back to Jung and especially Maria Louise von France for their insight into how unconscious content affects perception.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence...
So much to learn!
The Covid Hysteria being a prime and recent example! The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organised habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
Edward Bernays
It's only advertising really. It's amazing how easily we are programmed. Scary really. I have cultivated a boundary against emotional manipulation and always reject messaging from those who would sway me with emotion. At least I try to - on the assumption I can actually discern when I am under such assault!
My understanding of the Crusades is taking on a deeper & more pertinent relevance.
"The Crusades were organized by western European Christians after centuries of Muslim wars of expansion. Their primary objectives were to stop the expansion of Muslim states, to reclaim for Christianity the Holy Land in the Middle East, and to recapture territories that had formerly been Christian. Many participants also believed that undertaking what they saw as holy war was a means of redemption and a way of achieving expiation of sins."
https://www.britannica.com/question/How-many-Crusades-were-there-and-when-did-they-take-place
I prefer the silver rule: “Don’t do unto others what you would not like to have done unto you.”
Historian Tom Holland has written a book ("Dominion") exploring the first part of Eliot's quote. Formerly an atheist, Holland now attends weekly church services. Looking at his Twitter feed, he hasn't completely left libtardom behind. These things take time...
There is no surer sign of decay in a country than to see the rites of religion held in contempt.
Niccolo Machiavelli
"Religion is the key I of history. We cannot understand the inner form of a society unless we understand its religion." Christopher Dawson RELIGION AND CULTURE 1948. A must read.
I hate to tell him that Christianity is a Middle Eastern blood sacrifice cult. It kept modifying its perspectives as it migrated West because the Hellenized Jews who were its first adherents and evangelists wanted it to sell in all markets.
Well, that's the cynical take. The other hot take is that it's 100% true, and the foundation for the most glorious civilization in human history.
No, it's not cynical. All cults are bad and all religions are cults etc. etc. And the concept of the Almighty, the Creator, isn't owned by any cult though every cult tries to own it.
It was the Western Enlightenment that freed us to be able to believe according to our own instincts and conscience while living within a society of secular law that grew from the narrowness of religious legalism. That's what makes us unique, here in America, and it's a sad thing that so many patriotic Americans don't actually truly believe in our foundational values. Because we live here you and I are free to believe as suits our conscience and our instincts, and I don't want to convert you and don't want you to have power to force-convert me. "You" in the general sense.
What's the difference between a group and a cult? Between a cult and a religion?
Yes the western enlightenment had many great points, but the slaughter of 100M in the 20th century by secular governments occurred as well.
The dangers of faith are greatly exaggerated by its enemies...
The 20th century is the prime example of purportedly secular religions/cults.
What are those?
Cynical in the sense that you dismiss the Christian story outright, attributing its spread to grifters hustling around the Levant 2000 years ago (iirc from past exchanges).
A good number of the Philosophes were rabidly anti-Christian, and I believe that destroying Christianity's influence in the world was at the heart of the Enlightenment, appeals to science and unreasonable mankind's "reason" notwithstanding.
Their attempt to craft a morality in the aftermath of chasing God offstage has failed miserably. We destroy life that we deem inconvenient now. Human life is meaningless, if there is no God.
I was where you were. Stay open to it. That's all I have to say. Gotta go...
You always misperceive where I am.
I perceive you to be one of religion's cultured despisers. Are you a seeker?
It’s not a cynical take. It’s a deluded take. Instincts and conscience? Mao, Stalin, Che, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc. all acted on their instincts and conscience. And without objective truth who can say they are wrong. Post modernism and secular humanism is Baal/Molech worship- secular movement is great, right?
100% right, Matt.
The reason that Christianity is the best friend of government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart.
Thomas Jefferson
Can you give an example of one religion that isn't a blood sacrifice cult? It is only Jesus that said "the meek will inherit the Earth" Even that can be taken 2 ways the Earth or the earth ( about 2X6X6 feet of it). The closest was Buddhism but that was derived from Hindu culture and Siddhartha Gautama looked inward and taught, but did not have a Creator God, but did not dismiss it out of hand.
The Middle Eastern ones are particularly explicit. Blood and purity. The elemental struggle between the profane and sublime. That Manichean thing.
It's the Western Enlightenment that's foundational to this nation, and just as Christianity is not Judaism, the Western Enlightenment is not Christianity.
I've no problem with the cultural expressions of Christianity that inform American life. I love Christmas and the welcoming of spring reflected in bright Easter dresses. I'm sure glad we've moved beyond those awful unconstitutional Blue Laws though.
I'm glad we speak English and very glad Trump has made it our official language though that ain't gonna last through the next Democratic Administration and one will be coming with a vengeance if Trump fails at creating a brand new vigorous party that's shed the skin of the GOP for good.
or is it really is the combination of Christianity and the Enlightenment that allows for Western civilization? that's what we learned in college for decades before the current woke bs
Obviously the Western Enlightenment grew from centuries of Christian universities that eventually could not prevent the hunger for knowledge from breaking free of dogma.
But shining moments in human history soon tarnish. They've got to be cherished and protected. Men like the Founders are rare and even amongst them there was great intellectual tension between those who were Deists and those who were explicitly Christian. They managed a compromise that no other civilization on earth achieved but it has to be fought for in every generation and if one doesn't understand what its values actually are, one can't defend it properly.
Beware how you trifle with your marvelous inheritance, this great land of ordered liberty, for if we stumble and fall, freedom and civilization everywhere will go down in ruin.
Henry Cabot Lodge
"Obviously the Western Enlightenment grew from centuries of Christian universities that eventually could not prevent the hunger for knowledge from breaking free of dogma."
The success of Western Civilization is due to the tethering of the Enlightenment to Christianity - the Hegelian Dialectic. Each one needs to remain in tension with the other. The untethering from Christian values and dogmatic beliefs, giving full reign to the Enlightenment, is the reason our civilization is such a mess right now. "More Enlightenment" is not the answer, it's the problem. It's removed a stable, beneficial value system and replaced it with Globo-Homo Gay Race Communism. Nature abhors a vacuum, and unless civilization finds something "better" and actively works to replace "Abrahamic Sacrifice Cults" (a very tall order), what fills the void will be something far worse. That's what we're seeing now.
. . . and the moveable type printing press of which the 1st product was the Gutenberg Bible.
Christianity is based on the voluntary self-sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sins. God himself pays our debt, so to speak; we hitch a ride on his virtue because our own virtue is so deficient. The term “blood sacrifice cult” suggests that Christians are sacrificing humans or animals in some bloody ritual, which is not at all the case and not part of Christian religion in any way. While both Jews and Muslims continue to sacrifice animals, to this very day, Christians do not because Jesus made all such sacrifices irrelevant and useless.
Dr. Malone posted a guest article by David Gornoski: The Stones Still Cry Out: Holy Week’s Political Reckoning.
I think you will like this article.
https://www.malone.news/p/the-stones-still-cry-out-holy-weeks
I agree with you. your 1st sentence spells out the promise of God and the role of Jesus. The term "blood sacrifice cult" should probably be "blood sacrifice religion." because we are talking about the major religions of the world. Christianity honors the blood sacrifice of the "Lamb of God" because Jesus said at the Last Supper: "Take eat this is my body as he broke the passover bread, and take drink as he offered the wine. The promise of his return would not be as a lamb which all Christians also believe in.
Happy Easter to you.
Meh.
When Ursula tells us, “Our Democracy” she isn’t talking about actual Democracy. More like fake democracy resembling an authoritarian system. Not Democracy at all.
Same with what you are saying. The amorphous description of “Christianity” you cite no longer meets any true definition. Let’s stop calling reality by labels which no longer apply.
The foundational belief of Christianity is that God engendered himself in human form to be tortured and murdered as a blood sacrifice to redeem humanity. That only such blood-spilling could achieve a transcendent goal. That the Creator of the entire universe couldn't make it work any other way.
That incorrect. All of history prior revolved around social cohesion by means of punishing scapegoats. Christ's sacrifice was to be the final scapegoat for all of humanity. He bears all our sins so we can live in peace. That we reject His teaching and example is why man continually lives in a he'll of his own making...
Yes, that is the myth.
No, that's the historical fact. The existence of Christ is confirmed by contemporary secular historians (Pliny and Joseph of Aramethea) as well as the eyewitness accounts of the Gospels of Mathew and John, and the Gospel of Mark which reflects the first hand account of Peter.
The religious aspect is of course a matter of faith, and was at times misused by those who were in charge for their own agendas. Nonetheless it served as the underpinning of western culture and its legal tradition for over 2 millennia...
Ok….. and?
It's like transgenderism. Redemption through the sacrifice of the body.
There’s a lot more than that in there.
Dennis Prager - all wisdom comes from the bible - now we know why democrats are so stupid
I'll second the motion! No civilization other than that which is Christian, is worth seeking or possessing.
Otto von Bismarck
Thanks for this. Few people articulate as well as you and Gato.
(yes, I know that you posted a quote but you had to understand it first!)
Godspeed... Mr. Social Biologist (and dentist as clever as The Doc it appears)
That's very kind of you, Melissa. Thank you. God’s blessings to you and your family!
"if you try to steal my dog, you are the one who has said your life is worth less than a dog, not me."--Amen! I would absolutely shoot someone for trying to steal my dog--they're a nasty fucker and they deserve it. And yes, I unapologetically value my dogs more than most people--look around and it's not hard to see why that is.
"play stupid games, win stupid prizes."--this is one my favorites and I use it often because, unfortunately, it's often warranted in today mass of stupidity.
It has been several years since we've had pets of any kind. They age and become infirm, and it becomes necessary to make life and death decisions on their behalf. I couldn't bear to do that any more. I had my magnificent German shorthaired pointer for 16 years before I had to have him euthanized. He was the most loyal and loving friend I've ever had, and it broke my heart. I would not have hesitated to shoot someone who tried to do him harm.
andyour dog would not have hesitated to defend you if someone tried to harm you.
As a kid we had German Shorthaired Pointers. Great dogs! I hated to leave home at 18 because of those dogs. Over the years I have had a number of dogs with a big Husky being my lifetime great dog. It was painful with the passing of each of them.
The passing is painful but the joy they bring to your life is immeasurable!
They're NEVER forgotten!
Forever in our hearts!
Hard to lose a Shipmate, Fair Winds and Following Seas.
They are great dogs! My parents bred and raised them for several years, and I received Hickory Hill's Tag-A-Long (Tag, for short) as a high school graduation present. I got to pick from the litter, and I chose the least saleable one: he was huge for the breed, but just my speed. My fondest memories are getting down and rolling around with a litter of puppies, and letting them crawl all over you.
Addendum to previous comments: Sorry, I forgot where I was for a minute. Cats are lovely pets, too.
Time spent with cats is never wasted.
Sigmund Freud
Rolling with puppies - my fondest memories too.
And mine!
We have shared the same HEARTBREAK! Our German forefathers had a very kind religion. They believed that, after death, they would meet again all the good dogs that had been their companions in life. I wish I could believe that too.
Otto von Bismarck
So right. Mate! We have a picture of him with a Ben and Jerry's container over his muzzle. (He loved Cherry Garcia!) I hope he's up there with an endless supply, waiting for me. (...and maybe putting in a good word?)
I understand! There is a Pack I hope to rejoin.
I say FAFO
Agreed, and I have cats now . . . pretty much not stealable.
When I play with my cat, who knows whether she is not amusing herself with me more than I with her.
Michel de Montaigne
they don't steal them, but drop them on your doorstep and run away, lol
specially the girl cat-- what a bitch!
Great T-shirt idea...YOLO meets FAFO or FOMO meets FAFO.
I can use this with pretty much anything. I believe I should be able to shoot you if you try to steal anything from me. A wrapper, a piece of gum, etc.
In the 1990's when crime in NYC was the highest in 100 years and the murder rate was 2,000+ annually the 1st thing the new Mayor Rudy Guiliani had his new police chief do is focus on petty crimes including graffiti which was everywhere. All crime including Murder dropped by over 75% in the first year and continued to drop throughout his 2 terms as mayor (8 yrs). What they proved is that by first focusing on petty crimes the police demonstrated a zero tolerance around crime period and it had a downward impact on all crime. Since then, every single NYC administration has abandoned this policing strategy as well as hiring unqualified DEI applicants. The result of this has reversed all of the crime reduction Rudy Guiliani and his Police Dept accomplished and has made NYC the last place you want to go. Take home message: Nobody said shoot someone for stealing a 5 cent piece of gum, but if they break into your home to get or kill your pet to steal it, a bullet to the head seems the correct response and in America still lawful.
"if they break into your home to get or kill your pet to steal it, a bullet to the head seems the correct response and in America still lawful."
If you can't prove it was in self defense you will be charged with murder. Relatives of the perp will sue you in civil court and likely get a settlement.
You have NO idea what you're talking about sir! In America there is a little thing called the US Constitution and the Castle doctrine. I don't have to prove anything if a strange person who is unrelated to me or my family is standing in my house which they broke into in the middle of the night or anytime all you have to do is prove they meant you harm and you were defending yourself. Happens every day in America. Legal gun owners stand ground in their own homes and shoot and kills the assailant. Thats why all gun owners should follow the law, buy their guns properly, get trained by NRA certified gun instructors, belong to a good gun club, practice safe gun mechanics, and belong to a reputable Gun Owners Legal Defense organization who will defend you in any court in the USA. Over 1 million acts of crime are stopped annually (ie - FBI statistics) by law abiding gun owners with legally obtained guns. Only irresponsible gun owners who don't follow the law get successfully sued.
In Red states what you are saying is generally true. In Blue states criminals generally have more rights than their victims. Lawsuits by families of criminals killed are common. You aren't living in the real world. No amount of training can prevent those lawsuits.
I have never lived in a Blue state and never will. If you live in one you have more to worry about than just criminals breaking into your home. Recently, the corrupt DA in NYC tried to prosecute a law abiding citizen with a permit to carry after he shot and killed a man on the subway (who was a known felon) and who threatened (both verbally and physically) to kill people in a crowded train. There were dozens of witnesses who said the man unprovoked attempted to physically attack innocent people on the subway without warning and if not for this man's heroic act many would have been seriously injured and or died. Yet the Leftist DA had him arrested without cause or investigation for murder (or any family members coming forward). All the charges were eventually thrown out and the man was let go because the higher courts are siding with the law. The tide is turning, especially if you follow the law. Carrying the proper insurance will protect you from civil suits (generally up to $1M). Gun Owners of America and US Concealed Carry Association both offer courses and $1M+ liability insurance along with how to handle yourself with law enforcement after you legally defend yourself.
Take home message remains the same: Stay out of BLUE states period and allow the recent Supreme Court wins for gun owners to settle in. Stop voting for Anti Law and Order Prosecutors in your city and states. Rinse and repeat the other suggestions above. Learn how to protect yourself and your property and accept the police in most cases aren't going to get to you in time to rescue you so you better have a Plan B, C, D and E and be prepared to execute if needed to WIN!
"Buddy, gum you find underneath a table is not free candy."
I mean, there's probably a good reason, even if it's not immediately evident! haha
that would lead to a better society than what we have now, but we should start smaller
Agreed, and I don't even have a dog!
Dogs are the best--you really should get one if your circumstances permit!
Let's not forget that Islam hates dogs.
an even better reason!
I wish I could take this stance. Sadly, I live in the uk, and besides, my eyesight is so poor I'd wind up shooting both the dog and my foot whilst the antisocial sh1t fled...
AMEN. I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY. (FAFO as well ! )
The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.
Mark Twain
When I was a young adult and dealt with people all day, I told my mom that the more I dealt with people, the more I liked dogs--and I wasn't kidding.
That is something I can completely understand! And it seems to have only gotten WORSE! The DUBMONG DOWN has taken its toll. The DUMBER they are the more Hardheaded they are. Consider the average intelligence of the common man, then realize 50% are even stupider.
Mark Twain
So many comments on tic tok have been posted that I have not joined. It seems poisonous. I am on your side, Kelly.
We told you so. Repeatedly. Since before I was born, even.
But most everyone from socialists to libertarians said we were wrong, fascists, paleo-conservatives, reactionairies, racists, aqnd worse.
There's a cure for this. It is called ethnic cleansing.
Doesn't have to mean killing people. Round'em up, confiscate their assets, and pack their asses home, en masse, treating the project as a total war: meaning the entirety of the state is put to the purpose of achieving the goal of being rid of the shitskins.
Because what else are you going to do? Cede territory? Another integration project?
Doesn't work. Because it cannot, not anymore than dressing up a chimpanzee makes it a human.
the cure is not to be an attractor.
that means life as an immigrant has to be hard and require integration.
no welfare, no free housing, no free healthcare. you make in in our society and thrive, or you don't come at all. that's the melting pot. that works and thrives. offering free stuff to masses of low trust people who do not share your morals is like coving yourself in jam and wondering why your picnic has so many ants.
Certainly, no argument from me on that point - I don't think immigrants should be allowed to vote no matter what.
I usually cut it up like this, when debating our issues here:
>Refugee? Check story, check id, put in concentration camp making sure to keep warring tribes apart (also segregating men and women), three square meals per day, weekly doctor's visit to camp, plenty of physical labour (growing food, chopping firewood, et c), and inform the refugee they are welcome to live in the camp for the rest of their days if the please. If they want to immigrate, they have to home and make sure they meet qualifications first.
>Illegal resident, or have illegally passed the border with no mitigating circumstances (such as being a victim of human trafficking): expelled, barred entry for life, if violated then life in forced labour camp unless home nation pays for release and return.
>Legal migrant; must have evidence of being self-supporting from day one, no welfare of any kind barring private insurance, no franchise, may not serve in police, judiciary, politics or armed forces, may not own firearms. After 20 years without violations or criminal activity, may apply for the above privileges.
>Any Swede or citizen may offer to be a "fadder" (old word meaning compater - "extra father" or godfather) for a migrant. The Swede accepts full responsibility for all costs caused by the migrant, and is legally obligated to see the migrant has a place to live, food, et c according to the welfare norm.
Something like the above is what I've argued for, since the early 1990s.
Because it was obvious in the 1980s what happens when you let gypsies, South Americans of the lower classes, negros, afghans and such into the nation. From 1973 Sweden took in Chileans allegedly fleeing Pinochet. By 1976, official data showed that they were 7 times more likely than Swedes to commit any crime, on average.
You can imagine - or look at the FBI data for the USA - what happens when allow MENA or negros in.
Hence, ethnic cleansing. It is essentially the same as not creative perverse incentives, only it is done after the fact, not beforehand.
Trust me, when I say I 1) dearly wish we'd never dropped the old rules for migration (pre-1970s) and 2) that I have zero objections to any other nation applying the same reason as I show above, to myself: it is /their/ choice if the want me in their nation, not my right.
Yep. At Disneyland, they don't have to run around kicking everybody out of the park at closing time -- they just shut off the rides.
Most of us whose ancestors immigrated came here before the social welfare system was set up. They had nothing when they arrived in most cases, but were willing to work hard and learn new skills to achieve more than they ever could in their home countries. Now when immigrants arrive with nothing, they are given so much help they can in many or even in most cases live better on welfare than they ever did at home, so there is less incentive to work hard, assimilate, improve. Low expectations I guess. I've seen first hand how groups of people live in the Middle East in particular. Some live in hovels (my definition, of course). Some might live in shipping crates. Or in no crates at all. So living in a slum in the U.S. with a roof over their head, electricity and water, and being given free food and medical care and all the other things they might be given by NGOs, that's most definitely a step up. And maybe there's no need to do anything else except take the welfare forever.
You are right. But it is the exact opposite of what has been happening.
Well, that is how it once was in the USA! My Maternal Grandparents passed through Ellis Island and into the USA. They had to learn English and WORK. They eventually became Citizens. Their Son fought as a member of the US Army in Europe in WWII.
🎯🎯🎯 It all started with the participation trophies IMO 🤨
Ants you can handle, but when the hungry bear comes along ...
the honest immigrants have become citizens. they have a job, they speak the language. those that still put their old country first have no place in the 'new country'. That also goes for a few politicians !
A cat does not become a horse because it was born in a stable.
There are fewer than 10 000 000 of my people left on this planet. My people has lived here, since the Ice Age. The only being that could claim seniority to the land would be a Neanderthal, except they never made it this far North.
Without our nation, we will be made extinct.
When I say ethnic cleansing of what I call shitskins, I mean it. They, all of them, must be made to leave.
Finns, Danes, Norwegians, Walloon, Irish, Polacks, Italians, other European peoples, and Japanese and various other SE Asian peoples except Chinese have never been a problem.
Negros, Arabs, Syrians, Afghans, many many South Americans, Turks, Indians, Pakistanis, and the rest of the usual suspects have always been trouble, have never shown respect, have never assimilated or adjusted and have always made more and more demands backed by more threats and more violence.
They must go from here, or we will cease to be.
It's that simple.
you are right. the middle east has always been one big fight. It seems it is in their blood. Not sure about Indian people, we have quite a few around here, usually running hotels and gas stations, and some small stores, and quite a few doctors. we also have lots of Mexican people in the gardening business. One can immediately see who is honest - they work for their money. All the rest is standing with open hands for handouts. Of course the US is quite different from Europe - most of that is already over-populated as is, and now it looks like a sinking ship.
Sir Winston's observation about the Afghans may apply to the ME as well: "The Pashtun tribes are always engaged in private or public war. Every man is a warrior, a politician and a theologian Every large house is a real feudal fortress....Every family cultivates its vendetta; every clan, its feud....Nothing is ever forgotten and very few debts are left unpaid."
Winston Churchill
And when the indigenous Europeans are colonized and dispersed who will whine about the loss of diversity? It's shockingly unaware and hypocritical policy. What about OUR indigenous wisdom??
The surviving expats, and the American woke intelligentsia will say:
"Oh, what a shame, but it's their own fault for doing it wrong. We'll show them how to do it right. This time, it will work."
Same as with any other kind of communism, really.
At some point the "elites" who perpetrate all this will also end up on the chopping block. They of course don't think that will happen, but it will. They will be shocked, but it will be too late.
See: French Revolution.
Ha ha perfect answer 😞
The question, in my mind, comes down to vision, leadership, organization, and a willingness to engage in the political process.
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.
Theodore Roosevelt
In many ways Theodore Roosevelt and Donald Trump are cut from the same cloth.
Get action. Do things; be sane; don't fritter away your time; create, act, take a place wherever you are and be somebody; get action.
Theodore Roosevelt
And TR was shot while giving a speech -
"A would-be assassin's bullet was slowed by Roosevelt's dense overcoat, steel-reinforced eyeglass case and hefty speech squeezed into his right jacket pocket."
"Theodore Roosevelt’s opening line was hardly remarkable for a presidential campaign speech: “Friends, I shall ask you to be as quiet as possible.” His second line, however, was a bombshell.
" “I don’t know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot.”
"Clearly, Roosevelt had buried the lede. The horrified audience in the Milwaukee Auditorium on October 14, 1912, gasped as the former president unbuttoned his vest to reveal his bloodstained shirt. “It takes more than that to kill a bull moose,” the wounded candidate assured them. He reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a bullet-riddled, 50-page speech.
"Holding up his prepared remarks, which had two big holes blown through each page, Roosevelt continued. “Fortunately I had my manuscript, so you see I was going to make a long speech, and there is a bullet—there is where the bullet went through—and it probably saved me from it going into my heart. The bullet is in me now, so I cannot make a very long speech, but I will try my best.” "
https://www.history.com/articles/shot-in-the-chest-100-years-ago-teddy-roosevelt-kept-on-talking
Yes, ASSASSINATION and attempted assassinations seem to have haunted the usa. In my lifetime 22NOV63 stands out as a watershed date! "The important thing to know about an assassination or an attempted assassination is not who fired the shot, but who paid for the bullet."
Eric Ambler
this should be law. especially for those that are in the government. But recently someone published a list of about 30 democrats who are double nationality US and Israel. How lawful is that? And the English language should have been made the one and only in the US, IMO. I come from a 3 language country where these languages are not obligatory thaught in school, which I think is a must.
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
Marcus Tullius Cicero A question of ALLIGENCE? Conflict of interest?
the truth has been known for a very long time. The old Romans were right.
The Founders were Students of History. If our nation is ever taken over, it will be taken over from within.
James Madison
Islam calls for the cleansing and subjugation of non-believers. It is a religion of peace only to other believers (of Islam). We are witnessing a reverse crusade accomplished by exploiting immigration policy rather than through armies.
A great post about just that:
"Islam and Apostasy: A Primer and a Tough Tale" by Ayaan Hirsi Ali -- Sept 24, 2024
https://www.restorationbulletin.com/p/islam-and-apostasy?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2327889&post_id=149352863&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=b7jkn&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Thank you for the link!
don't forget that Christianity spread the same way. I know it is 1500 years ago but it is still ongoing. Recently I saw a film of people on the border of Myanmar who were forced out of their old habits and religion, and must adapt to Baptist pastors. The govt is taking the power of the tribal leaders and giving it to the ministers. The young men are taken from the tribes and never seen again. The reporter was with a former tribe member who left the country and wanted to see how his people were doing. They had to sneak in at night and under cover film what was going on.
The critical difference is that the teachings of Jesus, the foundational text of Christianity, preach love for all. This is in stark contrast to Islam which preaches dominance, lying, and killing. This is at the fundamental, theological level.
the new testament is peaceful, or mostly. but the old testament is full of killing and murder. I have only read parts of the Quran, but so far did not come across killing and murder. I am not talking of what is being preached. I do not trust any human preachers, of no religion around.
See the quotes i provided re Koran. The New Testament is Christianity. Even the old testament does not teach murder. The opposite. See Exodus 20:13.
"Islam calls for the cleansing and subjugation of non-believers."
That would be people who don't believe in god. One of the 5 pillars of faith in Islam is to believe in the gospel of Jesus. Because there is no centralized authority radical Mullah's can interpret scripture to their advantage.
I have a dear friend who is Sufi. He is 100% sure that Islam is a religion of peace that commands him to love everyone as brothers and sisters. Becoming an American citizen was his dream. I don't know anyone more proud to be an American than him. He is the epitome of the kind of immigrants we should be attracting.
It sounds like your friend has his own personal interpretation of Islam. (To be fair, Sufis focus on a more spiritual version of Islam.) Lucky for the rest of us, many (most?) Muslims are better than the religion they follow.
The Quran is billed as perfect, complete, eternal and universal. It is the direct word of Allah passed to Mohammed via the angel Jabril (Gabriel). It is for all people and all times. It cannot be changed. (In contrast, the Bible is inspired by God but written by man. There is wiggle room.) BTW. I can assure you that there is no talk of love in the Quran
In Islam, belief in "god" is not enough. You must believe in Allah and his messenger (Mohammed). Jews and Christians ("People of the Book"), and the polytheists are all unbelievers (the "Kufar"). Back in the day, polytheists had a choice; convert or die. Jews and Christians could convert or live as "Dhimmis", a special category whereby they could live under extreme restrictions in exchange for paying a tax called the "Jizya". If they refused to pay the Jizya, they also were killed. It doesn't matter that the Quran pays lip service to Jesus. If you do not follow the last and final prophet (Mohammed), you have a much lower status.
For a number of reasons, the Jews were especially vilified. Apparently, Mohammed had much more contact with them. In the Quran, they are billed as having outright "refused the message', whereas the Christians "went astray" and, therefore, had less opportunity to receive the message. However, ultimately both groups are "the worst of creatures".
Islam is a horrible belief system. It harms everyone; both the believers and unbelievers.
Thanks for the informed reply! My point was that you can't paint an entire religion with the same brush. "Lucky for the rest of us, many (most?) Muslims are better than the religion they follow." supports that point.
We want immigrants who support American values like my friend. That is the discernment which needs to happen in the west.
I personally love experiencing different cultures and the diverse expressions of creation they represent. Having food from every culture available is a gastronomic delight to the senses.
Sharia is Islam. Sharia is a political cultural social and religious pradigm that is incompatible with American, Judeo-Christian values and ideals.
I think in every religion there are 3 different believer groups. Those that proclaim to belong - the mouth people - usually thinking they are the only believers and suppressing everyone else, or murdering them, even. Those usually know their holy books cover to cover, by heart. Then there are those that do good deeds. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And then there are those that have internalized the religion and have made it into faith. I do not like any institutionalized religion, because hardly any seem to realize they massacre their own religion. It is like those destroying a forest to build a temple. Destroying God's temple to build a man's temple.
"Lucky for the rest of us, many (most?) Muslims are better than the religion they follow." — imo, reeks of cognitive dissonance by asserting they are not faithful to their espoused religion, or they are ignorant thereof. ‘Lucky for us those soldiers marching toward us, fixing bayonets, are better than the army generals they follow.’
That’s not what the texts say about nonbelievers. Islam is peaceful only to the believers, ummah.
Don’t forget that Islam considers lying (taqiyya) obligatory when it is in support of obligatory strategic ends like the spread of Islam.
Non-believers are kafirs, not capitalized, like dogs.
Koran 48.29 ‘Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. ..’.
Koran 5.51 “O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you — then indeed, he is one of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.”
Koran 8.55 Indeed, the worst of creatures in the sight of Allah are those who disbelieve, and they will not believe.
Koran 7.179 They are like cattle. Rather, they are even more astray.
The non-converting kafirs are subject to either death, or subjugation as a lower class and payment of special tax, jizya.
Book O (Justice), Section 9: JIHAD — means to war against non-Muslims…
o9.8 — Jihad is a communal obligation. To fight the kafirs until they become Muslim pay the jizya, or are killed.
o11.5 — Non-Muslims living under Islamic rule must pay the jizya and feel subdued.
o8.7 — ‘Acts that Entail Leaving Islam’. A Muslim can be executed for leaving Islam.
see:
https://open.substack.com/pub/perspectivesonislam/p/the-kafir-islams-doctrine-of-permanent
People refuse to see this! If they love the Quran, they hate civilization. Any and all civilization.
Pete, I don't know where you get your information about Islam. I would suggest you read "Catastrophic Failure" by Stephen Coughlin. The Gospel plays no part in Islam, as Jesus is considered a minor prophet. Your Sufi friend is considered an apostate and heretic, no longer a member of the ummah (community of believers) and historically subject to lawful murder or imprisonment in Muslim countries. There is a centralized authority, the OIS (Organization of Islamic States), that preaches complete submission to Islam for every person in the world. There were two types of preaching Muhammad offered: that from Mecca and that from Medina. His early teachings (Meccan) were full of peacefully reaching out to Jews and other unbelievers. His later teachings (Medinan) were of conquest and murder. The West has been lied to about the "religion of peace." The so-called revelations of Muhammad are subject to abrogation: any conflicts between the earlier teachings are canceled by the later teachings. The Quran is not be considered reading from front to back. Rather, it is to considered as the most recent is controlling. The "Verse of the Sword" (Surah Al-Tawbah, 9:5, instructs Muslims to fight and kill idolaters after the sacred months unless they repent, pray, and give charity. However, it also offers protection to those who seek it after being invited to Islam. Bin Laden, as required by the Quran, called to Americans to accept Islam prior to the attacks in NYC. Bowe Bergdahl's father, with Obama standing at his side in the White House, also gave the same invitation to Islam to the US. This justifies the jihad against the US. Pete, where in history has Islam is now the predominant force in a country through methods of peace? Islam is more a system of total control over the individual than it is a religion. It has always used violence as its means of spreading and control of the people. There is no questioning of Islam or changing it's structure permitted upon pain of death. It will always be a dangerous system of control.
Thanks for the informed reply!
"Your Sufi friend is considered an apostate and heretic"
Yes, he had to leave Egypt during the Arab Spring because of his beliefs.
The point I was trying to make was that you can't paint an entire race or religion with the same brush. Very few Moslem's are radicalized with strict interpretations of scripture like you are promoting.
I don't believe in painting an entire race or religion with the same brush. However, I do take people at their word when the profess a belief in a religion that REQUIRES believers to slaughter unbelievers. Polls of Muslims in the US show more than 90% believe Shar'ia law should replace the Constitution. >90% support the cleansing of Israel "from the river to the sea," or the genocide of every Israeli. These 90% are not "radicalized." They are observant Muslims. Pete, I get your desire to be welcoming. I am welcoming to others. I would welcome your Sufi friend, too, as Sufis tend to be "spiritual" rather than dogmatic. I also want my eyes open to the realpolitik of Islam. How does a "good Muslim" embrace the Western values of the Golden Rule when Islam is anathema to that belief? Accepting Western civilization and the Constitution is in direct opposition to the supremacy of Allah. Even having a non-Muslim friend is considered heretical.
"Polls of Muslims in the US show more than 90% believe Shar'ia law should replace the Constitution."
I call BS on your "poll". Please cite? Afghanistan and Iraq are the only countries on earth where Moslem's that think Shar'ia law should be the law of the land above 90%. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
Rikard, I have heard a lot about what has happened in Sweden because of the immigrants. It would be interesting to see a rundown of all the events that led to where Sweden is today. Are the Swedes upset about it, or just accepting?
A rundown of the that would be rather extensive, since it'd start in the 1950s. I'll settle for trying to answer the second question, hope that's okay:
What people think of it, has much to do with age, station or career or profession, experience and knowledge and how infected by the need to virtue signal and be a true believer the individual is.
Most everyone understands that we are in a very real danger of being wiped out, if not by active efforts then by sheer population replacement via birth rates - but to talk about it is a big no-no.
Compare it to talking crime rates for blacks vs crime rates for whites, and what happens to the crime rate of a white are when blacks move in, in the USA; that's how hard the taboo is for many.
So, they live in perpetual conflict between their rational mind and what they can see and read about, and what they are supposed to feel and think and believe.
Plus, the hate-speech laws and the absolute chokehold the state & regime media has on most people over age 40ish makes rational debate and conversation almost impossible; even migrants who say "Enough! You're ruining your nation by doing this!" will be ostracised or quited or accused of being race-traitors by the AWFLs in the media.
Even worse, for some professions in the civil services (such as teacher) you are by law obligated to profess your belief in and loyalty to a set of political ideas called "Värdegrund"; "Core principles". However, the värdegrund is not well defined beyond clichés and slogans ("Everyone is equal in value/worth" f.e.) and violating it is a firing offence, and it is the politically appointed mid-level managers who decide if you are in violation of it - you see where I'm going with this. The accusation itself becomes proof. The people who could speak out the best, the ones who see what's happened and what's about to happen, can't speak for fear of losing their livelyhoods and standard of living.
To cap it off, most are ignorant of the actual costs - financial as well as human-related - that the invasion-migration has. Ca 2%-3% of annual GDP is the low-end estimated net cost. 2%-3% of GDP isn't chump change, it's the difference between recession and boom. Thanks to migration, we've been effectively tied to recession-time austerity policies since the early 2000s.
Between 8 000 - 10 000 annual cases of rape, of which at minimum 85% are carried out by negros, arabs or people from neighbouring regions. About 55% of murders are carried out by the same groups. Thefts, frauds, arson (especially against churches), home invasions targeting the elderly, you name it. Slave trading/human trafficking, drug trade, weapons smuggling, tax evasion, genital mutilation.
That's what allowing the peoples of Africa and the Middle East results in. The USA will be no different, no different at all. It's just that we here have a head start.
And all of it started with people in the 1960s believing in the "melting pot"-lie.
Thank you for such a detailed explanation. Distressingly, so much of what you write already is happening here in the U.S. As an American whose grandfather and great grandfather/mother came from Sweden, I am so sad for what has already happened to Sweden. I hope your own Islamic invasion can be halted and rejected, and the people making trouble should be deported, but I fear that won't happen. People all over need to wake up, but I'm not confident they will do so.
In Texas, they always used to hang horse thieves but they didn’t always hang killers. Why? No horse ever needed stealin’, but some men need killin’. That’s how you preserve a high trust society.
We are ruled by people who despise America's citizens. One party opens the floodgates to immigration; the other does nothing to stop it. The horse is out of the Central American barn and galloping wildly from Texas to Minnesota.
And it is happening only in the lands of what were formerly known as Christendom. The Chinese are not taught the lie that diversity is a strength. The borders of India are heavily guarded. The people of the West have lost their faith. As Nietzsche's madman warned:" What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space?"
We have lost our way. The elites of the West, secularists all, have asserted that men can be women. Secular transubstantiation.
I see it in the light of faith. Formerly Christian lands are being destroyed. Christ has been discarded; the spirit of the anti-Christ is on the rise--destruction of human life in the womb is seen as a right. Euthanasia is gaining traction in the west. Human rights are being trampled. And why not? WEF homunculus Yuval Harari correctly asserts that human rights are a fiction. The notion of human rights arose from the Christian belief that we are all made in the image and likeness of God. No Christianity...no human rights. And here we are...
Most of the web denizens of the UK and EU I encounter are more afraid of visiting the US where they may be arrested for criticizing Trump, oblivious to the fact that what they fear is reality where they live. It's also good to be aware that there are no rainbow flags on city property in Hamtramck, Michigan. Sharia law is closer than you might think.
And the gay mafia was furious over that decision. They felt betrayed because they helped get their so-called marginalized cohorts elected. Imagine having over 22 designated days and months spanning 152 days to celebrate your perversions, but you're still marginalized. Also, these same people voted to allow the Muslim call to prayer over mosque speakers. Ya can't fix stupid.
The whole "gays for Palestine" stuff gives me much pleasure!
When you tell them they want to tie you up and throw you off a tall building, they squeal with delight. Because all they heard was We're going to tie you up and everything after the We'll tie you up was ignored.
Both Christianity and Islam condemn homosexuality. Islam does something overt about it. Openly, in their own countries. Will they start tossing people from buildings in the U.S. at some point?
The downfall of looking at everything through an oppressed/oppressor lens.
Exactly.
Anyone who thinks they might be arrested for criticizing Trump is ignorant or an idiot.
EVERYONE criticizes Trump. It is the Left's favourite pastime.
strange that you mention this. last week dad had a rant about Trumps tariffs. I said I don't like the man, but something has to be done. He said, don't post anything against him online they might lock you up. This is in Belgium, so at least, they are aware that in Europe, the freedom of speech I is totally gone, and indeed, they think that making a remark about Trump can get you jailed here!
I am waiting for Trump to lock me up just as I am waiting for all the bad things to happen to me for not complying with getting an experimental injection and wearing a mask indefinitely.
I do not think it will get that far. I was more wary with Biden, knowing him to be dementing, and not sure how the rest of the world would react. Thankfully there was Substack and I noticed we were quite numerous being unjabbed and undiapered.
i really want a sarcasm font. My point is, many of us have disagreed with Trump early and often and have yet to be rounded up and silenced. "You can't call a fascist a fascist" is one of the biggest litmus tests of fascism.
Simillarly, if masks and experimental injections worked and the ramifications were deadly for those of us who refused to avail ourselves of them, we'd be dead many times over by now. So dead and imprisoned, we are not, in the parlance of Yoda.
The way things are trending with DJT, being accused of antisemitism would be the likely path to jailing and/or expulsion
I lived in Brussels (Wezembeek-Oppem) off and on for 15 years. My dad was part of the international auditing staff at nato. My brother and I were teens. What a blast.
Muslims are destroying everything.
Lol. Has there been anyone arrested for criticizing Trump?? That's all the lefties do all day, and have done for 8 years. Kathy Griffith famously posted a pic holding a bloody Trump head, and yet he still champions free speech while the Dems demand censorship.
When Trump 2.0 happened, all these moronic lefty TV hosts were wailing about how they expected Trump to come after them, perhaps imprison them. Such silly, ridiculous people.
Granted, a lot of them probably should be prosecuted, but not just for stating their opinions. Trump has declined to even go after Hilary!
Absolutely. I fee quite at peace, unlike the first 4 years, when I was not sure where the wind would blow! I think Trump has more on his mind than a few old folk making another old folk joke.
Personally I think he loves making the lefties lose their minds. He laughs at the "fake news back there" right to their faces whenever he can.
Karma at its finest in Hammtrack
Raging liberals all voted with their ideology then their ideology bit them in their ass
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The government has made it illegal to defend yourself. It is even worse in other countries than it is here in the US and the UK is totally off the charts insane.
and when minutes count the police are only an hour away.
But even if the police were right next to you, they have no duty to protect you.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/police-arent-there-to-protect-you
My early suspicion happened as a teen (15 yrs old) when there was a fair in our town and it started to rain hard. I and my friends ran into a tent and sat at a table. There were still beer glasses on the table and some woman told a cop we were drinking (which we were not). He came over and apprehended us and took us to the station, did not listen to our side of what happened but did not give any of us a breathalyzer test, wrote us up, called our parents to pick us up. My father came in mad at me, also did not listen, and punched me in the head as soon as we got outside. That ended my positive opinion of police and my positive relationship with my father.
Yikes. That's what we call "learning the hard way".
Later when I was old enough to drive and had a car I would get pulled over because of my record of the fair three years earlier), told I had a tail light out (never did) and they would check out the car ( a '60 VW) for anything suspicious and even gave me a breathalyzer test ( never even drank at that age), and let me go that repeated several times. These days I look at it like I was Ron White in "They call me tater salad".
Reminds me of the scene in Die Hard 4 where Samuel Jackson says to Bruce Willis: "you were going to call me a n-gger, weren't you?" Bruce says: no - I was going to call you an a$$hole, b/c you're an a$$hole.
Two points.
First, I feel like there is something of a higher order taking place. Why is this happening to mostly western nations? This is a globalist plan that is utilizing the left leaning governments to facilitate a flood of immigration under the guise of humanitarianism and with the aid of multiculturalism to destabilize free societies to the point that controls can be implemented to keep the kind of order that the globalist want. What is useful now will not be useful when/if global communism succeeds with their project.
Second point is that if the invading culture becomes dominant they will not be tolerant, but will force their culture upon the rest of society or crush them. At that point it will be submit or revolt.
By that time, it will be too late.
Exactly!
Nailed it
Nayib Bukele from El Salvador gets it.
Mr. President, you have 350 million people to liberate," Bukele told Trump. "You cannot just, you know, free the criminals and think crime is going to go down magically, you have to imprison them so you can liberate 350 million Americans that are asking for the end of crime and the end of terrorism, and it can be done."
The Holocaust. It all stems from there as I can see. Because of it, and due to it, White people have been made to feel horrible about who they are as a people. It has been written into our text books, our literature, everything our young people read, watch, consume…(coincidentally published/televised, etc by the victims of the Holocaust). We have fallen into the guilt trap and it will continue until we all say enough and realize we are a collective and are pretty darn amazing.
When a black teen can murder a White teen in cold blood for touching him, and you have White people saying it was self defense and blacks raising half a million dollars for him, we have to admit we have a huge problem and self correct.
Holocaust is a big one. Raising kids in the NL, let me tell you it is on the agenda in a big way. But currently clashing with rising islamization. Very explosive. But don't forget slavery. Even here that is a well of everlasting gall to draw from. The kids are asked to FEEL mighty bad about it. In very emotional language. When I attend the field trips I make sure to remind them to feel GOOD about their ancestors who put a stop to it as well. Somehow that topic never gets addressed.
I totally agree but I believe the guilt aspect set in after Holocaust. Holocaust guilt, slavery guilt, White man bad guilt…all wrapped up in our culture. It’s why we have the empathetic sex continuously voting to put our safety at risk by importing the third world. Empathy combined with guilt we should not feel.
The elites know this and are using it as a cudgel, much like the branding of the terms racist and Nazi in the US. To provoke a fearful and shameful reaction
100%
Yeah that makes sense. I feel like the slavery shit was dredged up once Holocaust stuff seemed to lose oomph. It’s all negative manipulation.
Does this all (Islamic barbarism) apply to Maastricht as well? Asking for a potential visit in the future.
Honestly it applies everywhere since it’s so unpredictable. But probably less so there than Rotterdam, the Hague and even Amsterdam. I wouldn’t not go. Maastricht is lovely. ☺️
Terrific, thank you! I'm not as concerned about me as much as a treasured loved one who may be studying abroad there
Just make sure he/she isn’t naive and keeps his/her wits about him/her! Which he/she would need to do anywhere in the world really…. It will be an enriching experience! Hopefully you can arrange housing as that is a massive bottleneck here atm.
going to an Andrei Rieu Fest :-) ?
Not that I'm aware of lol
If you can you should! He’s such a treasure. Great energy for a night out!!
Guilt and shame are the control mechanisms of group psychology; as both emotions lead to inaction, passivity, and self doubt. Its presence in our culture is an implanted feature; not present in 1880 or 1940. Poison the belief in the culture, poison the collective will. It’s the same way a parasite destroys the defense mechanism of a host…
yep, recall OJ:
Black man set free after murdering two white people;
facilitated by our justice "system". This was one of the first canaries. . .
'"'Just call the police' is the wail of a deluded child. You seriously think they're going to get your bike back from some stranger you can barely describe?"
Been there done that. Over a decade ago, I learned the hard way that the police will not help you unless there is a reason that makes them want to. They really are servants of the State, not the people.
My tools were stolen from my car. The cop said that there wasn't anything they could do to help me. Next day, the same guy stole some change out of the car of some cop's grandmother down the street. He was caught within 12 hours.
And no, they wouldn't let me have my tools back.
In America, cops have no duty to protect you.
That means it's up to you.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/police-arent-there-to-protect-you
So said the Supreme Court some time ago.
Exactly. Many people are shocked when they read about some of the cases I highlighted in that article.
The defense of you and your family is your responsibility. Take it seriously.
In recent years, you have had to defend yourself against both the criminal and state actors but I repeat myself. 😁
Those of us with minds of our own and a sense of individuality cannot understand why people let totalitarianism take over. But we can see that there are millions of people who crave totalitarianism. They have no sense of individuality, and no thoughts of their own. Their sense of identity comes from being a follower of whatever movement expresses the strongest totalitarian views. The more repressive the government, the more secure they feel.
William Goldman's "Lord of the Flies" examines this. It is scary as hell. Do not fight totalitarianism with reason. Reason is a dull weapon against cultism. Fight totalitarianism by being visibly more powerful, more resolved to win. The best defense is a good offense. Totalitarians know this, we'd better learn this.
I love the 2nd Amendment
Armor up America it’s whats for dinner
Locked and loaded: slugs, 5.56, 22's, crossbow. . .
A friend told me a 308 would knock out the engine block of an approaching troop carrier
So I bought one (the 308)
Yeah, I was considering an AR10 first but. . . I just could not rationalize over $3K to do it justice with a good scope.
We need to resume using Calvinist philosophy. The good people display their goodness by punishing the bad people. The attempted rapist who couldn’t control himself should be found dead in the street while everyone tells the non-police, “I don’t know what happened. I didn’t see anything. I was just sitting with the family of the little girl and helping them cope with this unfortunate situation.” I hope that the English and Canadians will rise up and expel their leftist / WEFist governments. The Brits took the first step by Brexit.
Sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but you should know the canonical talking point response to this one:
> "if you would shoot someone for stealing your dog, then you value a dog's life over a human life!"
"Well, _that guy_ valued my dog's life over his own. Ask him. Oh wait, you can't. He's dead"