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WW's avatar

I hope you're right about the silver lining, but I clearly remember roughly 10 to 12 years ago when the wokesters starting becoming ascendent at universities. Too many of us thought that the "real world" would, after they graduated, chew them up and spit them out. Am a boomer with plenty of bruises from the real world that chews, and I was (very wrongly) convinced that would happen. How wrong we were. They graduated and took over all the power positions: HR in every company, the judiciary, university administrations and Covid even showed they took over the medical schools. This will not be undone easily.

Tim Hartin's avatar

The real world is chewing them up. Unfortunately, that just reinforces their desire to destroy the real world.

Joe Katzman's avatar

Yes, it’s hate. But don’t discount greed. The New Class lives on harvesting the energy from social fission. They break so they can steal. The term you and Gato are both looking for is “overproduction of elites,” by Peter Turchin. Unfortunately, it predicts civil wars and collapses.

The consequences are predictable: many people will do anything to be in one of the few chairs when the music stops, or to be positioned to get on. Virtue signalling, cancel culture, commie who will destroy the city - but create lots or laptop jobs to do it. Etc. All individually rational given the overproduction of elites framework.

SCA's avatar

It was fifty and sixty years ago or more. And the problem was all that tasteful collegiality of academics towards one another that stopped the sensible ones from organizing to thwart the insane ones. That's why we're here.

SCA's avatar

This was all predictable from the moment white upper-middle-class NYC mothers allowed their little children to be forced to eat lunch outside in the winter during the first hysterias of Our Plague Era while wishing that all the unvaxxed be forced to starve.

That was the moment I knew a Good German lived in everyone and some people really thrived at the permission to let him out.

Once you demonstrate that people will sacrifice their own children in order to earn and keep social approval, you can make them sacrifice everything else.

The most pernicious term every invented is "ally." Turns you into a Handmaiden indeed.

Emily Terrell's avatar

I fired an “ally”. Insufferable, incompetent and greedy woman.

Bob Thebuilder's avatar

Indeed, an "ally" is someone who expresses greed on behalf of other people to acquire stuff that they have not earned and doesn't belong to them.

Emily Terrell's avatar

That, too, but this one also greatly overvalued her contribution to the company. As my mom would say ‘all hat and no cowboy’. I own this gig. This ideologically superior human requested an hourly rate 30% higher than mine (hard no) with a work history missing much of the required experience and possessed exactly no moxie to make up for it. I’ve since stopped taking recommendations from our mutual friend in the industry. I’d rather work too many hours than put up with attitude - especially if I just have to redo the work myself anyway to attain our clients’ satisfaction. I have a much less experienced, lower rate employee that consistently does a much better job. I overpay her.

The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Before that... the signs were "Everyone Gets A Trophy."

SCA's avatar

And before that was Willliam F. Buckley Jr.'s ironic eyebrows on PBS vogueing before RuPaul was born.

Every idiocy that I could see as a HS grad these Ivy League geniuses treated as cocktail party amusements and book proposals and did nothing useful to stop guys like Chomsky from taking over and rotting the brains of the young.

Other people's children will always come back to bite you if you let them be educated badly.

David Rinker's avatar

Child sacrifice has been practiced by many cultures throughout history. It is the Normalization of Deviance. Children are programmed-socialized into the society they chance to be born into. If a custom is "normal" in society, it will become normalized in our mind. If you are born into a society that practices child sacrifice you will gladly sacrifice your children, especially if it is ostensibly done for the benefit of society as a whole. F**ked up society produces f**ked up people.

SCA's avatar

It's called being socialized out of trusting your instincts. It's the basic test. Some of us passed. Many many more failed.

Story old as time.

fsy's avatar

Isn't sending sons to the Army the universal form of child sacrifice?

JC's avatar

The parents I know - the kids are chomping at the bit to get into the Army - and the parents go along. Especially if it's a "military family."

ImanAzol's avatar

That depends on if they are being "sent" to be sacrificed, or to achieve and acquire.

Marice Nelson's avatar

I felt that about my daughter inflicting Covid shots on my young grandchildren and now they are rarely healthy

SCA's avatar

It's very hard watching loved ones make choices we feel in our bones are terribly bad.

fsy's avatar

My beloved 34-yr-old son just died a month ago after suffering for over a year and a half with cancer on the tongue in addition to a heart problem. He was overweight and smoked (although he quit 3 years ago after his heart attack), but he was pretty sure that the COVID shot is what ruined his health completely.

My wife and I refused the shot (and had some social inconvenience), but we didn't tell our adult children what to do. It's especially painful since this son was a very critical thinker and had his doubts about the shot, but took it anyway due to the social pressure.

Very sad.

Marice Nelson's avatar

So sorry for your loss

Bootsorourke's avatar

My young adult son wanted the shot to go to concerts but I was very Irish about him not doing it.

We compromised with the J&J. same with husband.

I pray the lack of mRNA makes it a little less like a time bomb.

Just buried my father who was talked into the shots by a relative. I couldn't take him out of it. He declined steadily since.

it is ghastly.

ImanAzol's avatar

And Covidiot cultists are still in denial that it is anything other than the Panacea from the great God Bourla.

Epaminondas's avatar

COVID was indeed quite the eye-opener for how quickly societies can descend into mass delusion. It's a scary reminder of how the urge to conform is hard wired into so many people and how strong that urge can be.

SCA's avatar

Well, I'll repeat it endlessly: we are pack animals and hard-wired to follow the leader and if the leaders are absolute morons but relentlessly convinced of their rightness we end up in real bad places.

It's very costly to refuse to follow when one senses something wrong in the direction. Many here have paid brutally for their instincts. The beta animals in the pack will savage you for your dangerous non-conformity.

There's no solution for this. Too much non-conformity destroys any hope of a reasonably well-functioning society while too much obedience always leads to horrors.

We just have to each do our best to be decent when the pack is baying for blood.

aromagal's avatar

I saw it in terms of how few people have a real instinct for survival and utter blindness to inversion!

I've Got A Special Purpose's avatar

I'm not sure if you meant to, but you just divined the reason why pretty much every actor in Hollywood has a Trans child.

SCA's avatar

Well, let us attempt to be honest. It's the same failure as displayed by all those parents who refused to believe their children who told them that the parish priest was molesting them. Or who beat the crap out of their kids because the pastor at their church tells them it's the only way to save them from the devil.

Etc. etc. etc.

Bootsorourke's avatar

I don't think anyone ever thought those things were okay.

SCA's avatar

Many people have always thought it not just OK but necessary to harshly discipline their children because their dogma tells them so, and so many people refused to believe their own children or the neighbors' children about the pedophile priests because "priests don't do that" and "you know how children lie."

Every day there's another scandal in a faith-based community regarding sexual misconduct from which the congregation had averted its eyes as long as it could.

This is human nature. People will far too often ostracize the truth-teller rather than demand justice regardless of the status of the transgressor.

ImanAzol's avatar

Faith based communities including the Church of Liberalism.

SCA's avatar

Yes, all cults are the same.

SF Bay Area's avatar

Scum of the earth. The parents that allowed that to happen.

Tracey's avatar

That study totally comports with my experience. We lost a dear friend who we considered family when she kicked my husband out of their band because he and I voted for Trump. She has repeatedly told me, "It's not about politics, it's about morals." The study actually helps me understand better that she just truly cares less about longstanding relationships with friends and family and is more focused on ideas far removed from us.

The Real Mary Rose's avatar

She's authoritarian. She wants control of your mind, to control who you vote for and which "tribe" you belong to.

David Rinker's avatar

If we have positive self-image, and are secure in our identity, it matters not that others follow different beliefs and behaviors. Her fragile and insecure SELF manifested itself.

Jennifer's avatar

Children disowning their parents is another new phenomenon. They actually send them formal "Do Not Contact" letters and it is not necessarily even about Trump. I am afraid Gato's theory is spot on, but I am having trouble with my decoder ring.

JC's avatar

It's funny. This trend has been going on LONG before COVID.

I got defriended when I didn't vote for Chump the first time around. Lost a friend over that. ("Hillary gonna take away our ammo!")

I've wanted to contact her since - I am not a Chump fan, but - am also not unhappy about the fact that he's in office again....

But COVID happened in between, and I wonder . . . .

fiendish_librarian's avatar

As Mark Steyn often says, some societies are too stupid to survive. That's what we're seeing here.

SCA's avatar

It's not that (though I agree he's a pungent thinker). It's that life goes through the same cycles over and over again.

Bootsorourke's avatar

knowing some history and using critical thinking can help things not happen over and over again.

Guylaine's avatar

What ever happened to Mark Steyn, haven't heard his name in years.

fiendish_librarian's avatar

Steyn is very active, posts everyday on steynonline.com. He's had to endure two lawsuits recently, one in the UK, one in the US, plus multiple heart attacks. But in my opinion he's still perhaps the greatest writer on politics and culture in the English language.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

My favorite Mark Steyn moment was when he christened General Mark Milley, “Thoroughly Modern Milley.”

Mark Brody's avatar

The self-hating, remote-identification mindset of liberalism seems to be a perfect grooming tool for totalitarian government. Give up all of what's important to you, your family, and your community for the sake of "the greater good" -- as determined by the technocratic state. The mantra from the COVID-era - "we're all in this together" captures the mindless enslavement to and the deification of the State.

David Rinker's avatar

Collectivist mantra of Harmony, vs. rights of the individual.

bara.ex.nihilo's avatar

You made "the greater good" sound very god-like.

Bet some of that plays into their paradigm.

Bootsorourke's avatar

Remember Kathy Hochul's "disciple speech". I live in NY and knew we were firetrucked when she came out with that. And she's building holding centers for people who get the flu or any other communicable disease without complying with isolation orders. https://youtu.be/NXaP76musWM?si=yHrdjUK9749moGxB

Liz LaSorte's avatar

Like Thomas Sowell said, “The fact that so many successful politicians are such shameless liars is not only a reflection on them, it is also a reflection on us. When the people want the impossible, only liars can satisfy.”

Maybe a lot of people have no understanding of the utter failure that socialism ALWAYS is, but it really is common sense, which does not appear to be very common these days. Nothing is free (but for a sunset/sunrise, walk in the woods, et. al., and most of us cannot live on that.)

We the People have failed by allowing people to think being dependent on the government is a way to live. What the government gives, the government can take away.

Alamo Dude's avatar

The Counter Culture has run out of runway. The only thing left is to embrace mental illness to counter Common Sense.

Steghorn21's avatar

History always repeats itself as farce. These crazies really think they're fighting genuine injustice just like MLK was in 1960.

Alamo Dude's avatar

👍 As Common Sense inverted, yes. Instead of MLK’s color blindness Unity, they want Rainbow Tribalism revolutions. Refracting Unity is what Rainbow Color revolutions is all about. Divide and Conquer by the Central Banksters and the GoreBullies.

The Real Mary Rose's avatar

This is a good companion piece to a little something Syndey Watson did on the Uglification of Everything.

Self-hatred has to be behind recent pop culture styles (ugly), architecture (butt ugly), and art (blarf-worthy).

I am especially nostalgic for the days when women didn't let their asses hang out in public, and those asses are fat.

I am also nostalgic for when music was good, art was beautiful, and corporate culture wasn't uber-cringeworthy to the point of torture.

To name a few.

In any case, yep.

Self-hate is rampant.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Thank you so saying that. All of it. I can only add that literature has also hit rock bottom. The book club I was in (and have left) reads only contemporary literature. It’s all written by third rate writers ( mostly women I’m sorry to say) and whose books are read by “sensitivity readers “ before publication so as not to offend anyone, particularly readers who “self- identify” as minorities. It’s insane. This is interesting: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-vanishing-white-male-writer/

The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Gross.

I am reading a lot of Dostoyevsky right now. If you read this garbage directly after, you really see what garbage it is!

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I’ve also noticed that the junk shows up in bold relief when you spend time with the great writers. All the English professors I know don’t teach the canon anymore, and deny there even is one.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

What’s your favorite so far?

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

A favorite! After so many years of teaching, I think that when we read crap, we think crap. When we read intelligent writing, it changes our brains towards intelligent thinking.

The Real Mary Rose's avatar

What used to be considered "guilty pleasure" reading is now "literature."

Yikes! But it goes along with the dummying down, of course.

Publius's avatar

"young, white, college educated liberals" i.e. people prone to have Narcissistic personality disorder. This is the cause of all of this. The Narcissists values "status" above everything else. In order to achieve ULTIMATE high "status" (their "Trump Card") they do the unimaginable--they pursue contrarian ideologies that are detrimental to society as a whole, frame it as "empathy" so that they can virtue signal their "high" pious status and purity e.g. only a person that is completely willing to support that which is completely contrary to their interest must be "pure of heart" and hence, a higher "status" individual. It is the ultimate trump card because no one else in their right mind would do that, hence they corner the market on being pious.

This is nothing more than the political manifestation of people with Cluster B personality disorders. The "rank and file" are borderlines, narcissists, and histrionics. The leaders are Malignant narcissists and psychopaths.

These people have no Freudian EGO, hence have no Identity, and choose to become their ideas, as opposed to people with ideas. It is mental illness.

Publius's avatar

ps.

Maybe we should MMAGA

(Make Mental Asylums Great Again).

Problem solved

Marice Nelson's avatar

I worked at one many years ago. They should have been improved instead of abolished. The patients’ rights supporters got what they wanted in spades. And almost no one wants to admit that a certain percentage of us will always need supervision and care and put aside the funds to support that although in the long run it is more costly not to. The medicalization of every aspect of the human condition is no help in this regard and a disservice to those who are truly afflicted. It has created a whole swath of us who have become their diagnosis because it makes them feel special

JC's avatar

Sadly, these systems "caught" more people than they helped, and ruined decades of (especially women's) lives. www.madinamerica.com

I'm not saying that they should be the homeless population in a town near you - but - I'm not sure that sticking them in a building with drugs is a good answer, either.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Fascinating maps! When emotions run high, logic runs low.

Alice Ball's avatar

Well done Cat. This all makes perfect sense. Having railed against all of this without knowing the specific principles of communism behind it, I have said to my histrionic leftist sister since Obama‘s first run, you have to look at things plain in the face and not for the emotional or compassionate angle. What are the policies, who will they impact, what will that do to taxes, what will that do to healthcare. Starting then, and ongoing through today, I am a racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, totalitarian, authoritarian, Nazi and Hitler. They are so completely deluded and hysterical and they look so stupid in their little marches and protests, with the hair dye and the nose rings and the full body tattoos and the dregs of the earth clothing and costumes and posters, and smoke bombs and Mexican flags and Palestinian flags And trans flags. I wonder if there’s even a slim percentage of them that I’ve looked around and thought, who the hell am I associating with? These people are crazy! The normal Democrats I know act like this is just the crazy cousin who lives in the garden shed. Not admitting that they are the drivers of policy in their party. I hope and pray that Trump can actually completely stop this lumbering Titanic from continuing into the deep, and that his cabinet secretaries and Congress can bring us forward into the light. Because without it, I am finally to the point where I wonder if a schism of the states is coming.

JC's avatar

I used to like rainbows. Now I can't choose rainbows, too effing political.

J Debra Grube's avatar

I definitely believe that Soros is funding all of these judges right now standing up against Trump- and I use that term loosely, “standing up “.

It’s more like rising up - before they used to say follow the money it seems like they don’t even wanna do that. I don’t understand. It’s like they’re not even trying to prosecute anybody. I just don’t get what’s going on. I really don’t.

I’m starting to believe that everyone is dirty down to the core.

Dr. K's avatar

I used to think it was 90% stupid, 10% evil. I have since revised my thinking to 100% evil. Nothing else explains what we are seeing.

JC's avatar

Actually, it's the stupid ones who are more dangerous. I agree with your original assessment: 90% stupid, 10% evil.

https://qz.com/967554/the-five-universal-laws-of-human-stupidity

https://markusmutscheller.substack.com/p/stupid-people

robert agajeenian's avatar

'Oikophobia' is apparently the term for the hatred, or dread, of one's own home ("people", I guess). It's a pathology.

jo blo's avatar

During the Carter Aministration, a program known as "Little HUD" invited investors--my Dad was one--to invest in low income housing. The domiciles received rehabbed interiors & appliances; even lawn mowers for the tenants to care for the landscape. Dad inspected "his" buildings and was dis-a-POINTED: the places had become ghetto-ized in under a year.

bara.ex.nihilo's avatar

Sounds like the same phenomenon I would see on airplanes after a flight: trashed.

Why, you ask?

Because no one OWNS their seat personally and they know SOMEONE ELSE must clean up after them - a child's power play.

This is when I discovered the immaturity of American adults. That was back in the late '80s/90s.

Nigel Tufnel's avatar

This self-loathing cohort you describe suffers from what Mises termed “The Fourier Complex”, named for French Philosopher François Marie Charles Fourier (1772-1837). It is characterized by such seething resentment and envious malevolence, directed at anyone the suffering fool perceives as enjoying more favorable circumstances than he, that he is willing to suffer harm himself, if only the hate one(s) are also harmed. This manifests as advocacy for civilization-destroying public policies and revolutions. The subject has reached such a state of mind that he can only derive a modicum of satisfaction from the knowledge, or belief, that the hated ones have been made to suffer. The field of psychology has, mostly, neglected discussion of this phenomenon, probably because the insight was provided by someone NOT in the field.

Ludwig Von Rothbard's avatar

Like the old joke about the communist who sees his neighbor with a cow that provides his neighbor with dairy and eventually meat, who instead of wishing for his own cow, wishes that his neighbor's cow would die...

YourGalapagosGullfriend's avatar

Or when Solomon was asked to settle a dispute between two mothers who were arguing which one of their children had died. The mother who was in the wrong was more than happy to allow a child to be cut in half if it meant the other mother wouldn't have a child either.

Jrod's avatar

I sooo hope Mamdani wins NYC. Then God (are you listening?) takes a giant melon baller to the entire area, scoops it out of the USA and gently plops it in the middle of the Atlantic. Somehow, we would endure.

All Now With Wings's avatar

Pray for the Divine Finger to put some pressure on the Ramapo Fault. Things go right h and New York City is gone and I get beachfront property. Winning!

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

And he walks out a billionaire