"This is my best advice with the information available to me now".
And even that isn't necessarily true, because it requires an honest doctor with no agenda or ulterior motive (for example, protecting his license to practice in the face of despicable threats from medical boards).
I know this from personal experience, as I had an unsatisfying "conversation" with my doctor when I asked for a prescription for IVM that I wanted in my quiver in case I ever contracted the Chinese virus.
The total extent of his responsibility to me as MY physician was expressed thusly: The WHO doesn't recommend IVM; then, the CDC doesn't recommend IVM; then, the FDA doesn't recommend IVM. I pointed out to him that THEY'RE not my doctor; YOU are. Fell on deaf ears. (My side of the conversation was MUCH longer and more detailed than just that, and references were cited; his side was brief and dismissive.)
So no, in many cases it's NOT the "best advice with the information available to me now".
Apparently to my doctor, I myself am not a party to my own healthcare. It's between him and a political alphabet agency.
One of his responses to my request included a listing of the potential side effects of IVM. I then listed all the potential side effects of a different particular drug, a list nastier than his, and then I pointed out that HE prescribed THAT drug for me (a topical ointment, not something ingested), so what's the problem with the lesser-side-effected (and 50+ years of proven safety, and the fact that our own government REQUIRES incoming refugees to take IVM) Ivermectin?
I survived ICU and remdesivir. After release from the hospital, I had no energy. I raise livestock so I stock easily 1500 ml of IVM 1% injectable at all times. I spent time researching post COVID treatment protocol and found a five day IVM treatment. I can calculate dosage because of my livestock breeding experience so I took it orally in dark chocolate cashew milk (dairy allergy that causes asthma). My energy came roaring back. Need to do blood work outside the sickness industry because they refuse to follow up. Easy to buy the 1% injectable and there are weight charts by ml dosage out there. Tractor Supply sells it. Just tell them you raise goats or alpacas and you can score a bottle!
Once upon a time people using veterinarian meds out of desperation was touted as the principal reason for centralized health care and the ACA. In the last two years taking vet. meds has been the only options available because of centralized health care and the ACA
They are cracking down on feed stores that stock penicillin. Only big box stores will be able to carry it. AVMA is an evil group that works hand in glove with FDA/USDA to limit the OTC drugs available. The goal is to force us to buy from our veterinarian who charges a hefty fee to set foot on one’s farm. We won’t be willing to pay $85 for a farm visit so they can hand over a $6.99 bottle of penicillin. Big gun antibiotics are a different matter. Some are $300/100 ml bottle. Right now, the vet supply houses can supply most items. However, I expect them to start requiring an Rx from a vet. After all, the USDA hires the top large animal graduating vets and puts them at desks in DC pushing paper at starting salaries that are ten times what they make as a large animal vet. Employment at USDA surged by 40% over recent years. Take it from a 25 year veteran of livestock breeding whose prior position was making the mega trend calls for Wall Street firms and the buy side.
I did change to a doc in Virginia, with whom I do tele-med visits and pay out of pocket (because insurance won't pay). She's the one who prescribed IVM for me.
I keep the other guy, nominally anyway, in case I need him in a way that the VA doc can't provide, since I'm a flight away from VA and can't get there quickly or easily.
I saw one of the doctors from FLCC is offering telemed for IVM. He wants around $350 for the consult. The IVM (at least around these parts) goes for about $100. Yes. It should cost about @20, but do you think the feds will investigate that gouging? No.
Well it's not really gouging if he's not the only doc around, and not the only source for IVM. I think I paid around $130 in VA in December for my IVM ('course 2 years ago it probably cost ten bucks), and my tele-med doc is around $125/hr IIRC.
When your doctor works for a corporation and they tell him or her that no ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine will be prescribed (unless patient has rickets or RA), then your doctor will not be prescribing it. Ditto for the doc in the hospital. Unless your doctor has a private practice with no affiliation (because if he is affiliated w a hospital and prescribes it, goodbye privileges. And then find a pharmacy that will fill it (usually a compounder). It won't be your local, friendly Walgreens. Why? See above.
Exactly. And a good model we can generalize. Why do multi-state or even state medical boards exist? To protect patients...so that was the promise. Concentrate power so as to "protect" - safety, security, and the common good. Once power is concentrated, it will be abused. And as I've said for decades, that is not a slippery slope, kids, it's a cliff. It may seem fine to step off, for a while it even feels "free", but it never ends well.
This is true. But the message of these "truth guidelines" is that even if you are one of those few docs who practices independently you will follow the approved doctrine or you will not "practice" at all. This is another one of the incremental stories that has been creeping for years but 2020 showed they need not creep, or be subtle or clever, anymore.
"This is my best advice with the information available to me now".
And even that isn't necessarily true, because it requires an honest doctor with no agenda or ulterior motive (for example, protecting his license to practice in the face of despicable threats from medical boards).
I know this from personal experience, as I had an unsatisfying "conversation" with my doctor when I asked for a prescription for IVM that I wanted in my quiver in case I ever contracted the Chinese virus.
The total extent of his responsibility to me as MY physician was expressed thusly: The WHO doesn't recommend IVM; then, the CDC doesn't recommend IVM; then, the FDA doesn't recommend IVM. I pointed out to him that THEY'RE not my doctor; YOU are. Fell on deaf ears. (My side of the conversation was MUCH longer and more detailed than just that, and references were cited; his side was brief and dismissive.)
So no, in many cases it's NOT the "best advice with the information available to me now".
I've NEVER ONCE had somebody explain to me how IVM (or other treatment) is the business of anybody but me and my doctor.
Apparently to my doctor, I myself am not a party to my own healthcare. It's between him and a political alphabet agency.
One of his responses to my request included a listing of the potential side effects of IVM. I then listed all the potential side effects of a different particular drug, a list nastier than his, and then I pointed out that HE prescribed THAT drug for me (a topical ointment, not something ingested), so what's the problem with the lesser-side-effected (and 50+ years of proven safety, and the fact that our own government REQUIRES incoming refugees to take IVM) Ivermectin?
Radio silence after that.
I survived ICU and remdesivir. After release from the hospital, I had no energy. I raise livestock so I stock easily 1500 ml of IVM 1% injectable at all times. I spent time researching post COVID treatment protocol and found a five day IVM treatment. I can calculate dosage because of my livestock breeding experience so I took it orally in dark chocolate cashew milk (dairy allergy that causes asthma). My energy came roaring back. Need to do blood work outside the sickness industry because they refuse to follow up. Easy to buy the 1% injectable and there are weight charts by ml dosage out there. Tractor Supply sells it. Just tell them you raise goats or alpacas and you can score a bottle!
For anyone interested, the details about dosing with pony paste can be found here:
https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/
Once upon a time people using veterinarian meds out of desperation was touted as the principal reason for centralized health care and the ACA. In the last two years taking vet. meds has been the only options available because of centralized health care and the ACA
They are cracking down on feed stores that stock penicillin. Only big box stores will be able to carry it. AVMA is an evil group that works hand in glove with FDA/USDA to limit the OTC drugs available. The goal is to force us to buy from our veterinarian who charges a hefty fee to set foot on one’s farm. We won’t be willing to pay $85 for a farm visit so they can hand over a $6.99 bottle of penicillin. Big gun antibiotics are a different matter. Some are $300/100 ml bottle. Right now, the vet supply houses can supply most items. However, I expect them to start requiring an Rx from a vet. After all, the USDA hires the top large animal graduating vets and puts them at desks in DC pushing paper at starting salaries that are ten times what they make as a large animal vet. Employment at USDA surged by 40% over recent years. Take it from a 25 year veteran of livestock breeding whose prior position was making the mega trend calls for Wall Street firms and the buy side.
I did find a doc in VA via FLCCC (I think it was) who, among other things, did prescribe IVM.
Thanks for the tip!
So change to an integrative medicine doc.
Unfortunately integrative medicine docs are extremely expensive ...
My insurance won't cover complimentary or integrative medicine (or the docs) at least the ones in our area. I am probably not the only one.
I did change to a doc in Virginia, with whom I do tele-med visits and pay out of pocket (because insurance won't pay). She's the one who prescribed IVM for me.
I keep the other guy, nominally anyway, in case I need him in a way that the VA doc can't provide, since I'm a flight away from VA and can't get there quickly or easily.
I saw one of the doctors from FLCC is offering telemed for IVM. He wants around $350 for the consult. The IVM (at least around these parts) goes for about $100. Yes. It should cost about @20, but do you think the feds will investigate that gouging? No.
Well it's not really gouging if he's not the only doc around, and not the only source for IVM. I think I paid around $130 in VA in December for my IVM ('course 2 years ago it probably cost ten bucks), and my tele-med doc is around $125/hr IIRC.
When your doctor works for a corporation and they tell him or her that no ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine will be prescribed (unless patient has rickets or RA), then your doctor will not be prescribing it. Ditto for the doc in the hospital. Unless your doctor has a private practice with no affiliation (because if he is affiliated w a hospital and prescribes it, goodbye privileges. And then find a pharmacy that will fill it (usually a compounder). It won't be your local, friendly Walgreens. Why? See above.
This is the problem with the whole idea of a multi-state board who can fire you for not doing things their way.
That is ONE of the problems.
LOL fair point!
Exactly. And a good model we can generalize. Why do multi-state or even state medical boards exist? To protect patients...so that was the promise. Concentrate power so as to "protect" - safety, security, and the common good. Once power is concentrated, it will be abused. And as I've said for decades, that is not a slippery slope, kids, it's a cliff. It may seem fine to step off, for a while it even feels "free", but it never ends well.
This is true. But the message of these "truth guidelines" is that even if you are one of those few docs who practices independently you will follow the approved doctrine or you will not "practice" at all. This is another one of the incremental stories that has been creeping for years but 2020 showed they need not creep, or be subtle or clever, anymore.
Yes, that does seem to be the way it is going. Quickly.
That is why I play my own doctor. I ordered it abroad and had it just in case. If I don't get it my dog takes it against heartworm.