Yes, I agree with you on that, Labour will hold us under water until we are really finished. It would be a disaster. But if you look at the by-election results recently, there isn't actually a swing to Labour, not at all. There's just conservatives staying at home, and then those seats falling to either Lib Dems or Labour by default.
3 times in a row the long-suffering British public have voted for conservatism, and 3 times in a row we cannot bl**dy get it.
But we remain a small 'c' conservative country, the raw vote numbers continue to bear that out. Labour only ever win when they move to the centre and steal the right's clothes — speaking the language of aspiration, like Blair did (very successfully). If you spend some time looking back that's actually been the clear pattern since the WW1 period.
There is no sudden appetite for socialism. On the contrary, the public keep telling the politicians "no thank you to socialism!" ....and then the politicians say "well now that we have been elected we are going to try some socialism, you'll love it!". We do not love it. And how many times must we tell you fools that we want conservatism!?
The giant, gaping, drive-a-truck-thru-it hole in British politics is on the right. It's for an unabashed, anti-woke, small state conservative. Anyone who stepped up boldly with this platform would clean up. This is begging for the return of Nigel Farage. If Nige stepped back into the mix as leader of the Reform party, the others would be in serious trouble. Vote-share wise it may be enough to see both corpses fall, such is the nature of the voting system we have. Nigel is not for everyone, but he has a canny instinct for reading the winds and appearing when they favour him. Let's see...
It seemd Nigel stood aside for the 'greater good' and smash labour in 2019 and get brexit done with a stonking majority.
Now it's clear our leap for sovereignty out of the frying pan of the EU was into the fire of the globalists NWO/WEF/WHO ...will he step up? Or is he happy with his media rant channel salary?
This country is fluxing between just about there and totally effed. I've actually lost most faith in the Brits about me in the last two years, including the majority of my outer family who barred us from the family get together for not agreeing to a 'voluntary' self-imposed test, and even my sister who said two-tier society was right for the unjabbed.
Nevermind the politicians, how can I feel comfortable walking around a town in these Isles knowing one day people seem fine, the next they'll wear masks and sell you out to the police if asked?
Yes, I know what you mean. It's been demoralising to see so many people fall to the group think and hysteria. I try to remind myself though, that there is a big silent-majority phenomena that we see in Britain and Brexit was a great example of that.
We were repeatedly told from every media outlet and high office in the land, that Remain had it in the bag. Well... in the privacy of the voting booth clearly a lot more people said "no thanks" to the EU, despite the most expensive and intense state-sponsored pressure campaign probably since WW2?
And that vote only even happened because of Farage. Who never even held a seat in Parliament. Even for those who hate him, he's almost certainly the most consequential political figure since Thatcher, and possibly since Churchill (given the nature of what Brexit was about; sovereignty). He did all that without even a voice in the Commons. It's a good reminder that it doesn't take 51% of the vote to topple the existing players. As we've seen, it looks like it takes about 15% to move a major to one end of the field, and 30% to bring them to their knees.
I do wonder if he regrets stepping aside though. But if he didn't, and then we got no Brexit whatsoever, I can't imagine he'd ever forgive himself, don't you reckon?
I did allow myself to consider that scenario once, and given we're in the global situation, I felt if his party had got 15 or 30 seats, it'd have been such an important voting bloc. The tory rebels could have lashed themselves onto it too.
However, Nigel got double vaccinated and only smelt a rat prior to the booster campaign! Then he started inviting guests on for a debate over the booster. But he was onboard with the freedom movement and pretty sure he'd have voiced against lockdown 2 and 3.
Thanks for the positive reminder, the silent majority is however, silent. We're still raising our kids here, but showed them all Mexico, which they loved. The cartels meant they never shut down nor are abandoning cash. Better to live under a robber baron that a pretend do-gooder, the former is easily satiated, the latter with prove the relentless tyrant.
Would love for Farage to come back. I kind of saw Johnson as his pupil, but since he is in power he has indeed swung to the left.
Actually what you say about the UK sounds strangely similar to what we have in Holland with immigration. We vote for parties that claim they want less immigration and once they are in control they push for more immigration.
Yes, that's it, the sneaky bait & switch! ...I take it as a sign of complete 'capture' of our political establishments by outside interests, because all the parties do it to us, and across so many countries. It certainly tells us who they believe their *real* bosses to be... hint: not us.
They say what they need to get elected, and then once elected they proceed with risible nonsense like "Building Back Better" ...
...aka "After we have destroyed civil society, prosperity and social mobility then we will BUILD systems to concentrate all power and wealth BACK into our hands like feudal times, which will be much BETTER for us elites. You're welcome peasants!"
Not really what this democracy business is supposed to be about! :/
"“From the time I took office as Chancellor of the Exchequer, I began to learn that the State held, in the face of the Bank and the City, an essentially false position as to finance. The Government itself was not to be a substantive power, but was to leave the Money Power supreme and unquestioned.”"
Since he married Carrie, he's in the NWO clutches and all we get is leftist policies of the worst globalist kind. I think having covid affected his brain.
I have made this point before — but if you accept that Boris is a charismatic frontman who enjoys dress-ups, then his life and career make a *lot* more sense...
He is a showman. He lives for the applause, and the glow of the stage lights. But he has no interest in writing the scripts, or building the sets. He will swan in at the final moment, ascend the stage (30 minutes late) and deliver the lines written for him with cheeky gusto. And the crowd will love it. But all that requires an entire team doing the rest, and being ready to hand him the script, direct him to the stage they have built, and manage the lights and sound while he performs. A star without the rest of the crew cannot deliver the show.
Also, notice how the various personalities/ideas he has assumed change throughout his life like costumes, according to what suits his comfort in the moment:
— Libertarian, cogent, 'writer Boris' was when he was playing dress up in the ideas of his exceptionally intelligent (long-suffering) wife, Marina Wheeler.
— Then he saw an opportunity to dress up as a Brexiteer, and threw on the cloak of Leave and played in that for a while. When that wound down he saw a new cloak to try on — the extremely popular (populist?) ideas and positions of one Mr Dom Cummings.
— Then Carrie happened. She didn't like this scene of the play, so he threw off that costume and slipped into one more suited to his current circumstances. Currently he is living for the applause of the woke metropolitan globalist set that he is embedded with.
This is just Boris. Either they need to get a stronger person in to beat back that influence and enthrall Boris to dress up once again, or we are b*ggered. As far as I can tell, that's about the size of things right now.
The only difference between the Tories and Labour is that Labour will implement the UN Agenda objectives faster (they are the same as the WEF agenda but the WEF is there as a distraction to keep you from understanding that the UN is in charge).
We are doomed, unless people wake up and over throw this rotten system.
A year and a half ago I was advocating for a permanent "Occupy Westminster". It only takes a very small percentage of the population to overthrow a government and a system in general. Getting 1.5-3% of the population to occupy Westminster and not leave until the bastards have gone is achievable and I stand by what I said.
You're right that Labour and the Tories (and the Lib Dems) are all offering to take us to the same destination, merely at different speeds of travel. This is the result of decades of centralisation of power, removing meaningful democratic control from the hands of citizens and funnelling it upwards to bureaucrats to insulate the 'direction of travel' from public feedback/intervention.
It's a major issue all across the west. And voters do see that no matter how they vote they will be served the Davos agenda. The power structures have grown to be massive, opaque, even oppressive. Most of all they are unresponsive. So voters become depressed and demoralised; why vote, when it makes no difference? ...when no meaningful change will take place based on the vote?
The UK now has three left wing parties of various degrees, and no centre right or right parties, despite the voters still being largely small 'c' conservative in outlook. The coalescence of all main parties around the soft-left, green, woke, globalist position is causing a huge distortion in the ability for our democracy to function.
Voting should keep a lid on public anger by offering a release valve, but when all parties are effectively the same party once they get into office, then the steam builds up in the pot, and that's what's happening now.
Governments should never be allowed to get too large (in sprawl, or in our lives) ...or they will use that power to begin existing for their own sake. Selling their own self-serving lies. I think that's what we have now? — a system that lives for itself, primarily. The 'state' is now so big it touches everything. It's so bloated that it reaches into the most intimate corners of citizens' lives. The state is everywhere. It's in classrooms, bedrooms, parent/child relationships, etc.
Having achieved this immense and inappropriate power, now it's been targeted and colonised by the kind of people who are exactly the sort that should not be anywhere near power.
The answer (as I see it) isn't to elect my particular 'team', who I personally agree with... but on the contrary, it's to de-fang and de-centralise the system in such a way that the state has less power and influence in our lives. And hence less corruption is invited to be centralised; attracted to one central location - the limitless font of money and power that is the 'big state'.
Yes, I agree with you on that, Labour will hold us under water until we are really finished. It would be a disaster. But if you look at the by-election results recently, there isn't actually a swing to Labour, not at all. There's just conservatives staying at home, and then those seats falling to either Lib Dems or Labour by default.
3 times in a row the long-suffering British public have voted for conservatism, and 3 times in a row we cannot bl**dy get it.
But we remain a small 'c' conservative country, the raw vote numbers continue to bear that out. Labour only ever win when they move to the centre and steal the right's clothes — speaking the language of aspiration, like Blair did (very successfully). If you spend some time looking back that's actually been the clear pattern since the WW1 period.
There is no sudden appetite for socialism. On the contrary, the public keep telling the politicians "no thank you to socialism!" ....and then the politicians say "well now that we have been elected we are going to try some socialism, you'll love it!". We do not love it. And how many times must we tell you fools that we want conservatism!?
The giant, gaping, drive-a-truck-thru-it hole in British politics is on the right. It's for an unabashed, anti-woke, small state conservative. Anyone who stepped up boldly with this platform would clean up. This is begging for the return of Nigel Farage. If Nige stepped back into the mix as leader of the Reform party, the others would be in serious trouble. Vote-share wise it may be enough to see both corpses fall, such is the nature of the voting system we have. Nigel is not for everyone, but he has a canny instinct for reading the winds and appearing when they favour him. Let's see...
It seemd Nigel stood aside for the 'greater good' and smash labour in 2019 and get brexit done with a stonking majority.
Now it's clear our leap for sovereignty out of the frying pan of the EU was into the fire of the globalists NWO/WEF/WHO ...will he step up? Or is he happy with his media rant channel salary?
This country is fluxing between just about there and totally effed. I've actually lost most faith in the Brits about me in the last two years, including the majority of my outer family who barred us from the family get together for not agreeing to a 'voluntary' self-imposed test, and even my sister who said two-tier society was right for the unjabbed.
Nevermind the politicians, how can I feel comfortable walking around a town in these Isles knowing one day people seem fine, the next they'll wear masks and sell you out to the police if asked?
Yes, I know what you mean. It's been demoralising to see so many people fall to the group think and hysteria. I try to remind myself though, that there is a big silent-majority phenomena that we see in Britain and Brexit was a great example of that.
We were repeatedly told from every media outlet and high office in the land, that Remain had it in the bag. Well... in the privacy of the voting booth clearly a lot more people said "no thanks" to the EU, despite the most expensive and intense state-sponsored pressure campaign probably since WW2?
And that vote only even happened because of Farage. Who never even held a seat in Parliament. Even for those who hate him, he's almost certainly the most consequential political figure since Thatcher, and possibly since Churchill (given the nature of what Brexit was about; sovereignty). He did all that without even a voice in the Commons. It's a good reminder that it doesn't take 51% of the vote to topple the existing players. As we've seen, it looks like it takes about 15% to move a major to one end of the field, and 30% to bring them to their knees.
I do wonder if he regrets stepping aside though. But if he didn't, and then we got no Brexit whatsoever, I can't imagine he'd ever forgive himself, don't you reckon?
I did allow myself to consider that scenario once, and given we're in the global situation, I felt if his party had got 15 or 30 seats, it'd have been such an important voting bloc. The tory rebels could have lashed themselves onto it too.
However, Nigel got double vaccinated and only smelt a rat prior to the booster campaign! Then he started inviting guests on for a debate over the booster. But he was onboard with the freedom movement and pretty sure he'd have voiced against lockdown 2 and 3.
Thanks for the positive reminder, the silent majority is however, silent. We're still raising our kids here, but showed them all Mexico, which they loved. The cartels meant they never shut down nor are abandoning cash. Better to live under a robber baron that a pretend do-gooder, the former is easily satiated, the latter with prove the relentless tyrant.
Would love for Farage to come back. I kind of saw Johnson as his pupil, but since he is in power he has indeed swung to the left.
Actually what you say about the UK sounds strangely similar to what we have in Holland with immigration. We vote for parties that claim they want less immigration and once they are in control they push for more immigration.
Hurray for democracy I guess ...
Yes, that's it, the sneaky bait & switch! ...I take it as a sign of complete 'capture' of our political establishments by outside interests, because all the parties do it to us, and across so many countries. It certainly tells us who they believe their *real* bosses to be... hint: not us.
They say what they need to get elected, and then once elected they proceed with risible nonsense like "Building Back Better" ...
...aka "After we have destroyed civil society, prosperity and social mobility then we will BUILD systems to concentrate all power and wealth BACK into our hands like feudal times, which will be much BETTER for us elites. You're welcome peasants!"
Not really what this democracy business is supposed to be about! :/
Gladstone (prior to WWI)
"“From the time I took office as Chancellor of the Exchequer, I began to learn that the State held, in the face of the Bank and the City, an essentially false position as to finance. The Government itself was not to be a substantive power, but was to leave the Money Power supreme and unquestioned.”"
and so it continues.
Since he married Carrie, he's in the NWO clutches and all we get is leftist policies of the worst globalist kind. I think having covid affected his brain.
I have made this point before — but if you accept that Boris is a charismatic frontman who enjoys dress-ups, then his life and career make a *lot* more sense...
He is a showman. He lives for the applause, and the glow of the stage lights. But he has no interest in writing the scripts, or building the sets. He will swan in at the final moment, ascend the stage (30 minutes late) and deliver the lines written for him with cheeky gusto. And the crowd will love it. But all that requires an entire team doing the rest, and being ready to hand him the script, direct him to the stage they have built, and manage the lights and sound while he performs. A star without the rest of the crew cannot deliver the show.
Also, notice how the various personalities/ideas he has assumed change throughout his life like costumes, according to what suits his comfort in the moment:
— Libertarian, cogent, 'writer Boris' was when he was playing dress up in the ideas of his exceptionally intelligent (long-suffering) wife, Marina Wheeler.
— Then he saw an opportunity to dress up as a Brexiteer, and threw on the cloak of Leave and played in that for a while. When that wound down he saw a new cloak to try on — the extremely popular (populist?) ideas and positions of one Mr Dom Cummings.
— Then Carrie happened. She didn't like this scene of the play, so he threw off that costume and slipped into one more suited to his current circumstances. Currently he is living for the applause of the woke metropolitan globalist set that he is embedded with.
This is just Boris. Either they need to get a stronger person in to beat back that influence and enthrall Boris to dress up once again, or we are b*ggered. As far as I can tell, that's about the size of things right now.
The only difference between the Tories and Labour is that Labour will implement the UN Agenda objectives faster (they are the same as the WEF agenda but the WEF is there as a distraction to keep you from understanding that the UN is in charge).
Look at this BS:
https://www.conservatives.com/
"Making Britain better for everyone"?
Nope, Build Back Better.
We are doomed, unless people wake up and over throw this rotten system.
A year and a half ago I was advocating for a permanent "Occupy Westminster". It only takes a very small percentage of the population to overthrow a government and a system in general. Getting 1.5-3% of the population to occupy Westminster and not leave until the bastards have gone is achievable and I stand by what I said.
You're right that Labour and the Tories (and the Lib Dems) are all offering to take us to the same destination, merely at different speeds of travel. This is the result of decades of centralisation of power, removing meaningful democratic control from the hands of citizens and funnelling it upwards to bureaucrats to insulate the 'direction of travel' from public feedback/intervention.
It's a major issue all across the west. And voters do see that no matter how they vote they will be served the Davos agenda. The power structures have grown to be massive, opaque, even oppressive. Most of all they are unresponsive. So voters become depressed and demoralised; why vote, when it makes no difference? ...when no meaningful change will take place based on the vote?
The UK now has three left wing parties of various degrees, and no centre right or right parties, despite the voters still being largely small 'c' conservative in outlook. The coalescence of all main parties around the soft-left, green, woke, globalist position is causing a huge distortion in the ability for our democracy to function.
Voting should keep a lid on public anger by offering a release valve, but when all parties are effectively the same party once they get into office, then the steam builds up in the pot, and that's what's happening now.
Governments should never be allowed to get too large (in sprawl, or in our lives) ...or they will use that power to begin existing for their own sake. Selling their own self-serving lies. I think that's what we have now? — a system that lives for itself, primarily. The 'state' is now so big it touches everything. It's so bloated that it reaches into the most intimate corners of citizens' lives. The state is everywhere. It's in classrooms, bedrooms, parent/child relationships, etc.
Having achieved this immense and inappropriate power, now it's been targeted and colonised by the kind of people who are exactly the sort that should not be anywhere near power.
The answer (as I see it) isn't to elect my particular 'team', who I personally agree with... but on the contrary, it's to de-fang and de-centralise the system in such a way that the state has less power and influence in our lives. And hence less corruption is invited to be centralised; attracted to one central location - the limitless font of money and power that is the 'big state'.