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Gina Detwiler's avatar

I heard a new one from my sister who is an expert because she’s married to a doctor: the unvaxxed are causing the variants. This is the latest strategy for demonizing the unvaxxed, though I haven’t heard Fauci say it out loud yet. Has anyone else?

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Jestre's avatar

This is an old strategy. Started at least with delta. The easy response is "what environmental pressures are naive immune systems placing on the virus that make it mutate in a direction that causes the vaccine to lose effectiveness?

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Barcode's avatar

Easy question to debunk this. Why are variants emerging NOW when we have vaccines and not when everyone was unvaxxed (before vax became available?). If not being vaxxed causes variants then we should have seen a plethora last year. If the response is - well - it only happens when part of the population is unvaxxed - then the cause of variants is vaccination - not the unvaxxed.

The other question is - what would force a virus to mutate? When it encounters a pristine immune system or when it encounters a modified immune system? Using a war analogy - if the opposing army does not have shields, I can use a blunt spear. But if some of them are using shields - I need to evolve my spear into a sharper one. Cue Marek’s disease

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Cheryl Palen's avatar

Great thoughts....and thanks for stimulating my brain further. Another question: what does "fully vaxxed" mean anymore anywho? One shot? (j&J) two shots? 2+ booster? Everyone who is currently ill has the last cocktail in my circle of contacts.

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Phoebe's avatar

You'll have to ask the question again tomorrow and the next day and the next, because they keep changing the definition in order to keep the fear quotient high.

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The King's avatar

It means a constant IV drip

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marty s's avatar

It'll b 39 boosters and standing on one's head and wiggling ur toes 😂

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Sophia's avatar

there’s a good meme about it:

what do vaxers and antivaxers have in common? none of them will ever be fully vaccinated :)

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marty s's avatar

The best I came up with sibs who got all the shots is "we're even," but urs is better 😁

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marty s's avatar

I like it!! 😂😂

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JWM_IN_VA's avatar

Right, eventually a spear gets developed thst can Pierce Amy shield existing

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Cheryl Palen's avatar

Oh my sister just said it on FB today...and I have heard many others claim this false notion also-suggested by Biden by saying "everyone must get de shot" and local health dept. "experts" demand county employees be shotted and boosted because the "unvaxxed are spreading it"- looney tunes everywhere!

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marty s's avatar

Ur sisters like my brother who's an expert pianist cuz our dad was a piano mover 😂😂

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

I played the role of “pirate” in a play I performed in way back in high school. Does that therefore make me an expert sailor?

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marty s's avatar

😂😂😂

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Barbelo of the Pleroma's avatar

Never mind that Delta came from India, and Omicron from South Africa?

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Always from those undesirable countries. Seems like every disease with first world country origins always mysteriously ends up named after some animal group (mad cows disease, swine flu, avian flu)

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Raptor's avatar

That is what the manchick in the video above was trying to get at we evil ones need to get the jab to stop the spread. It is what they have been saying for a year now... the the truth became too obvious to go on with that BS anymore. Now... nevermind. Global Warming!

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whiskeys's avatar

I'm in western Canada. We've been hearing that all along. Maybe it's spreading?

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Jestre's avatar

Also Western Canada, so maybe we are hearing the same messages... But we have tended to be followers for basically every vaccinated catchphrase. It can't have started here.

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