My clients love me. I know so much about tax law that they pay the least amount they have to legally pay, and they don’t get hit with nastygrams from the IRS full of penalties and interest.
You can do what you want, maybe you don’t make any money so you have no tax liability and so you think this is cute or something. If you have tax liability and don’t pay- let me know how that works out when the IRS levies you bank account and slaps a lien on your property. I think telling other Americans to commit tax fraud is a serious problem. It’s not a very nice thing to do. People are going to get in trouble if they take this ridiculous advice.
NOTICE Mr CPA is using slippery language here. He is absolutely correct that "If you have tax liability and don’t pay" they will be very nasty. But I'm not arguing that point.
But he isn't being honest with you about whether YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A TAX LIABILITY!
All they have is scare tactics. Fear is the mind-killer.
I'm not giving anybody advice. I'm showing them what the CODE ACTUALLY SAYS. Notice also, he has never responded to my posts showing you what the law says. He can't argue that because he knows that IS WHAT IT SAYS.
And I'm also pointing out that the person trying to scare you has a MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
Like a licensed CPA, your board of actuaries can discipline you for shenanigans with your federal tax return. I’m curious, when inevitably you wind up in trouble with the IRS over this, what’s your plan for that?
I'm going toe-to-toe on this with the IRS. I am not afraid. I can see for myself that which they (and you) threaten me with is all bluff. I know the law and I know my rights.
If my return contained any "shenanigans" then yes, I would be sanctioned. But as I am not holding any "frivolous" positions, then it doesn't apply to me.
What we DON'T find on either the real or even the fake "frivolous position" list is anything describing the ACTUAL position on which any CtC-educated filing is based-- that the income tax is an excise on privileged activities.
Please, let's do continue this lengthy and interesting discussion when you have the time and space (and honesty) to commit fully. Please do so at my original post:
Notice the slippery language, "Taxpayers who rely on frivolous arguments to avoid filing returns may be subject to an addition to tax"
"taxpayer" is a defined term in the code, so if you don't meet that specific definition, that doesn't apply to you. Notice how that term is used in nearly every sentence. That is how they keep the fraud going. They want you to assume you are a "taxpayer" when you most likely are not.
Dawnfrench:
What do you say in response to this (section C4 it talks about Peter Hendrickson explicitly):
https://www.irs.gov/privacy-disclosure/the-truth-about-frivolous-tax-arguments-section-iii#:~:text=of%20tax%20liability.-,I.R.C.,to%20evade%20or%20defeat%20tax.
They wrote a song about this- 🎶 I fought the law, and the law won 🎶
I’m wondering what your clients and fellow Americans would feel about your being complicit in the fraud against them, and having to pay you for it.
My clients love me. I know so much about tax law that they pay the least amount they have to legally pay, and they don’t get hit with nastygrams from the IRS full of penalties and interest.
You can do what you want, maybe you don’t make any money so you have no tax liability and so you think this is cute or something. If you have tax liability and don’t pay- let me know how that works out when the IRS levies you bank account and slaps a lien on your property. I think telling other Americans to commit tax fraud is a serious problem. It’s not a very nice thing to do. People are going to get in trouble if they take this ridiculous advice.
NOTICE Mr CPA is using slippery language here. He is absolutely correct that "If you have tax liability and don’t pay" they will be very nasty. But I'm not arguing that point.
But he isn't being honest with you about whether YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A TAX LIABILITY!
All they have is scare tactics. Fear is the mind-killer.
I'm not giving anybody advice. I'm showing them what the CODE ACTUALLY SAYS. Notice also, he has never responded to my posts showing you what the law says. He can't argue that because he knows that IS WHAT IT SAYS.
And I'm also pointing out that the person trying to scare you has a MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
Like a licensed CPA, your board of actuaries can discipline you for shenanigans with your federal tax return. I’m curious, when inevitably you wind up in trouble with the IRS over this, what’s your plan for that?
I'm going toe-to-toe on this with the IRS. I am not afraid. I can see for myself that which they (and you) threaten me with is all bluff. I know the law and I know my rights.
If my return contained any "shenanigans" then yes, I would be sanctioned. But as I am not holding any "frivolous" positions, then it doesn't apply to me.
What we DON'T find on either the real or even the fake "frivolous position" list is anything describing the ACTUAL position on which any CtC-educated filing is based-- that the income tax is an excise on privileged activities.
Please, let's do continue this lengthy and interesting discussion when you have the time and space (and honesty) to commit fully. Please do so at my original post:
https://dawnfrench.substack.com/p/the-fascinating-truth-about-the-16th
Notice the slippery language, "Taxpayers who rely on frivolous arguments to avoid filing returns may be subject to an addition to tax"
"taxpayer" is a defined term in the code, so if you don't meet that specific definition, that doesn't apply to you. Notice how that term is used in nearly every sentence. That is how they keep the fraud going. They want you to assume you are a "taxpayer" when you most likely are not.