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J T's avatar

Nah, it's worse than "they had to have known". There's no way they could possibly have known, because they never even tested for it before shoving it down the public's throat, making claims they knew they couldn't prove.

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Man-i's avatar

I disagree

Pfizer knew that the vaccine would not generate IGA and generate heard immunity. They knew that it would fail to provide sterilizing immunity Pfizer knew that it would fail to prevent infection and spread. And they lied about this and misrepresented this on purpose so that they could sell booster after booster

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PERSISTENT OBJECTOR to new IHR's avatar

I thought I had heard at the start, that in the telescoped trials, they had already moved on with the next steps when it became apparent that the monkeys they were testing on, got sick. From that they could know that it wasn't going to work. But apparently they didn't care or rather, like someone said, that failure was what they needed for their "subscription plan". Really, just like the earlier computer Antivirus subscriptions. What an uncanny similarity here, too.

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Man-i's avatar

Or there was just so much political and peer pressure to push through with the development of this thing. Imagine being in a board room or committee meeting during the phases of development of the vaccine. And it became evident that it wouldn’t stop infection or spread but they were halfway through rolling this thing out and their prestige and a huge amount of money was on the line. No one had the guts to speak up

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MeriBear's avatar

Sadly, this reminds me of the religion of my family (which I left in 1984). Once people rise in their church offices to paid “general authorities” in the church’s corporate offices, at least some of them figure out it is all made up, not true. But they are so invested in it, besides having left high paying careers as lawyers, doctors, businessmen, that they have to sit there in silence, and worse, give “faith promoting” speeches to believing members who suspect nothing. That corruption is everywhere and it is very sad to know it. Sad to see so many people duped. Can’t say anything because most don’t want to know (as my scientist father told me re the church). Trying to tell people who don’t want to know is like teaching a pig to sing: it is impossible and it just frustrates you and the pig.

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Man-i's avatar

Yes covid is a cult

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MeriBear's avatar

Yes, Covid, the Dem Party, the Mormon Church. All cults. Destroyed family and friend relationships. Destroyed careers. I hope there will be a reckoning.

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MeriBear's avatar

Turn the other way. Pretend you didn’t see what you saw.

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PERSISTENT OBJECTOR to new IHR's avatar

Also, they needed these vaccines approved no matter what, in order to them be able use the mRNA platform for everything else. So, in view of that more important agenda it was irrelevant whether the vaccines worked or not. (This being the pharma agenda, while the involved oligarchs and state actors were/are in addition to that, pursuing specific other agendas.)

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MeriBear's avatar

BIL Gates 2.0

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J T's avatar

And how would they know that if they never tested for it? They may have suspected it, they may have believed that, but without testing for it they most certainly did not *know* that it wouldn't.

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Man-i's avatar

You are missing the point

This type of mRNA therapy is injected into a persons arm and stimulates the body to produce IgG serum (blood antibodies) and then , later on it was hoped memory T cells

This type of mRNA therapy would not cause the body to create a mucosal IgA response. The IGA antibodies are exclusively secreted in the respiratory mucosa and in the intestines

This are basic infectious disease and immunology facts that have been known for decades

There have been many times in the past when various groups have tried to produce these types of treatments and vaccines for animals that are raised for food like chickens and pigs, and they have all failed to produce neutralizing or sterilizing immunity that would prevent infection and spread. They have all failed to produce herd immunity

So based on decades of worldwide experience with these types of therapies Pfizer and Moderno and many other people had to have known that this particular Covid shot would not produce sterilizing heard immunity because it does not produce the IGA mucosal response

So they didn’t need to test for it. Because they knew that it wouldn’t produce herd immunity. They knew that it probably wouldn’t prevent infection spread and transmission. And that is specifically why they didn’t test for it because they knew that if they did test for it would show that it did NOT prevent infection

So they LIED about it and marketed it anyway and pushed it KNOWING it would probably not stop infection and spread

They lied because their was so much political pressure AND they knew they could sell it any endless booster

You understand:

They didn’t test because they knew it would probably fail the test. And if it failed the test no one would take it. So they wouldn’t be able to sell it. So they didn’t test, and they lied about it knowing it would probably fail the test, and now they can sell endless boosters

You see it’s a giant mindfuck, global worldwide historic fraud and crime against humanity

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Tardigrade's avatar

Very clearly put. They did know, because they've been attempting to make this technology work for years. This was pure opportunism.

The global situation was contributed to by many powerful players, with possibly slightly different motivations. The pharmaceutical arm is the easiest to understand.

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Man-i's avatar

Yes exactly

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