a lot of folks were warning about this. (certain internet felines included). running the. ost rapid and widespread vaccine rollout in human history with an entirely new functional pathway never before used in humans and known to have a lot of problems and risks on the basis of 3 months of data (when they usually take 7 to 10 years to test) was way beyond reckless.
they thought they were sterilizing and they were not.
that's an astonishing mistake to make and let go on.
Yes, think about all public school teachers, they are as a group the epitome of ill-health. Vast majority are overweight and many manifest numerous signs of metabolic dysregulation.
They are pushing for all students to be vaccinated and in the case of D.C. without parents approval.
Twenty plus students in a closed room exhaling viral particles for hours and the teacher.
What could go wrong?
It's when I play out scenarios like that above is when it really does feel less conspiratorial but incompetence that is running amok.
Agree - it’s not a conspiracy theory or global sinister plan. Maybe a handful of people had malicious intent but the vast majority of this is bad policy build on bad assumptions. Fear based decision making fueling Bureaucracy and far too few people asking questions/ using common sense
Hmmm...then why censor the very valid and educated opinion of HUNDREDS of scientists, medical professionals, and researchers? Why threaten with suspension or license removal any dr who prescribes certain generic drugs that are saving lives? And why deny the existence of natural immunity? Ultimately, this is about profit not health. Otherwise, "Mr. Global" (per Dr. Reiner Fuellmich) wouldn't be pushing to vaccinate healthy kids at risk of cardiovascular problems.
I laid out a full "benign theory of intention" for expert behavior in July that slotted treatment suppression under "rather not admit being wrong about an outdated conventional belief than save lives."
It was really just an exercise in open-mindedness, but it's gone out of the window with the summer's redoubling on remdesivir and ventilators on the healthcare system end and simultaneous messaging emphasizing "pandemic of the unvaccinated" on the media/state end. It is not plausible that the "Covid 2021 narrative reboot" is some accident.
Totally hear you on this! I agree that censorship is wrong and the doctors/“Heath institutions” that are depriving treatment.. are bordering if not fully in the zone of malpractice BUT I don’t think it’s cause they’re all “in on it”. Try and get 3 people to keep a secret and you’ll find out how difficult a conspiracy of this nature is. Most people in public power are not highly qualified and those that are.. are too afraid/smart to buck the official narrative. It’s poor incentive structures driving this. Upton Sinclair said it best: “ It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”
I've always believed covid was an accidental lab leak as a result of some incompetence but I'm starting to harden my opinion. It's just been too damn useful to the CCP.
They needed to do challenge trials with the new vaccines- that was the only way to assess both the efficacy and duration of the immune response in the time window they ended up using for the half-assed Phase III trial. These were questions that were answerable, but it was almost like they didn't want an answer. We are getting the answers now when it is too late do anything about it.
Herd immunity is based not only on the transmissibility of the disease, but also on the behavioral changes the disease causes. For example, a disease that knocks you on your ass, also limits your social interactions.
What if the Covid Vax lowers symptoms so you continue to interact normally but doesn't lower transmissibility?
In essence, the vaccines may have raised the herd immunity threshold.
Maybe we were done and then vaxxed our way into the current waves.
Something other than what was promised is going on that's for sure. Perhaps it is time to revisit some assumptions:
1) immunity = protection from viral infection & replication. We have never tested for rna sequences believed to be indicative of a particular viral species at this scale ever before. Moreover, traditionally, testing followed presentation of illness, so a naive assumption has been that if illness declines so does the virus, and if illness in a population disappears well so has the virus. But what if viruses normally rarely cause illness, doing so after all reflects a robust immune response that hampers viral replication. Wouldn't evolution favor viral replication without over stimulating the immune response that results in illness? If so, we need to rethink what we believe “immunity” to be … as it would be as much a feature of viral activity as that of the host in which it operates. So, “herd immunity” meaning the virus is driven completely out of a population is likely false, at least in many if not most cases. This is just wild speculation of course.
2) these shots are “vaccines” — why in the world would we ever think that producing a version of a protein assumed to have been part of the wild virus from 2019 in order to stimulate antibody production narrowly targeted to that spike protein would really yield the effect of a vaccine? Seems like the most that can be claimed is that this is a rather dangerous preventative tonic that lasts for a few weeks and nothing more. Calling it a vaccine leads to false thinking about what these shots deliver and what we might expect from them. (see “Sapir-Whorf” hypothesis)
Respiratory and gut viruses are not one size fits all. For some of them, the question of whether we are continually re-perpetuating them via subclinical / asymptomatic encounter despite "sterilizing immunity" is interesting (measles? polio?), but the traditional paradigm of get sick once, don't get sick again holds; for others, any observation of the immune system not clouded by Germ Theory Dogma makes it clear that our bodies are intentionally bidding for not just asymptomatic but symptomatic re-challenge. The idea of a "sterilizing" vaccine for coronavirus is bonkers.
Kudos to user Tom Walsh who shared this video by Jonathan Jay Couey, who is developing a theory that some genius thought the SARS-CoV-2 spike would form a swiss army knife anti-spike antibody against severe outcomes (as opposed to using it as a self-spreading vector for another anti-viral vaccine, SC2 was designed as a vector for itself; total scientific nonsense which is why it is exactly the kind of thing pharma researchers might try). You can kind of just parachute in at 59:00 but the whole video is good https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1155458003?t=00h59m04s
Or you can just look at this chart. This is all the ICUs in the US. Light blue line. Then it is all of the occupied beds as a national average. Dark blue line. Then it is the number of beds occupied by Covid patients. Red line. See pre-vax winter and post-vax summer. Tell me what you see...
I’m not sure if you saw the message yesterday I added to a previous article, but looking at VT, a highly vaccinated state, and their biweekly summaries, it appears over the last four weeks they’ve added 28 deaths, 23 of which were breakthrough. Additionally, by my math on CFR, the breakthrough CFR is a magnitude higher than the remaining, presumably unvaccinated or partially vaccinated population (though testing levels likely result in bias here).
This is not a good sign if indeed the state ends up playing catch up.
Where exactly are you seeing that? I'm not arguing with you, I'm just trying locate that data in the link above that specifically shows that the last 23 of the total 28 deaths in VT were from the vaccinated.
Look at the page 24 of the 8/27 and 9/24 reports. Over the four weeks, the difference in the 2021 deaths is 28. Thus an inference of 28 deaths over that time period.
Page 36, if I recall correctly displays breakthrough deaths. The difference in the two reports is 23.
Hence, over the last four weeks 23 breakthrough deaths were added and 28 total deaths added.
Vermont data is pretty opaque. But if you know the age of deaths, you can sort of figure out how likely it was they were vaxxed. 99% of 70+ are vaxxed, for example.
“It will also be brutal on the unvaccinated who, ironically, would need protection FROM the vaccinated”
By this do we mean unvaccinated and w/o natural immunity? Are we expecting that natural immunity will still hold, even in the face of these vaccine-selected hotter strains?
Every unvaxxed I know is loaded with vitamins C, D3, quercetin, zinc and other supplements. And staying strong. 😁 Last year, I read a study re: D3 and ability to minimize severity, lowering risk of hospitalization. There are risk-free amd cheap ways to avoid severity. But msm and Fauci don't want the masses to know. This type of low-risk prevention strategy could've been used on anyone <50 amd healthy. There was absolutely no need to push an experimental technology on everyone.
I am *vaxxed* and my daily regimen includes all those. I was already on D3 anyway for a deficiency diagnosed years ago. Interestingly -- and I have not seen this noted by any of the usual suspect media outlets that cover toilet paper shortages as societal extinction crises -- it is becoming impossible to find zinc supplements in grocery and drug stores, at least here in Maryland. I had to order mine online.
El gato…What in the world is going on with the flu. There is just no way it disappears. That just does not make any sense to me. Is just everything getting lumped into Covid to scare people and push new vax technology. Also a while ago I listened to a virologist say that we would not be able to differentiate Covid from ADE unless autopsies were done. When you look at the graph of the United States (as a whole) we have more deaths for this time of the year than last year this time. That doesn’t make any sense with so many people vaccinated and the vaccine decreasing hospitalization and death by even just 50%. Why would we be seeing more deaths?
So the outcompete thing is real…I am a physician and just do not remember ever hearing about anything like that. However I will admit to not being awesome at infectious disease. What doesn’t make sense even with the super spreader idea is that so many people have already been infected and should be immune, and if the vaccines are actually decreasing hospitalization and death by 50% it just seems crazy that we’re still seeing more death. Thanks for responding by the way.
I am also a physician and agree with Gato on this. I think there is an outcompete issue and covid pushed out the flu. As for the effect of the vaccinated superspreaders on the naturally immune - that is a great question. From the data I have seen, those folks are still holding strong. But not sure anyone has great data on this. Sadly, our own CDC is completely inept and so we are relying on UK and Israeli data to draw comclusions. Great data would answer some of these questions but it is not available.
Do you remember the virologist? That "Severe Covid 19" is more plausibly previously-primed ADE than viral in pathology is what I have been saying for a while, but I didn't get the idea from a virologist - I stole it from an outsider researcher (Vinu Arumugham), so it would be interesting to find a conventional virologist saying it.
The displacement/out-competition theory performs poorly for explaining Thailand and New Zealand, where there was neither flu nor SARS-CoV-2 last year. Flu testing is based on centralized standards which easily can be arbitrarily changed to guarantee a null result, of course.
"there is very plausible case to be made that these vaccines are actually increasing spread and may well be selecting for hotter, more dangerous virus. "
Excuse me for reiterating the obvious: Historically, the normal course of a viral epidemic would be an initial exponential high spike followed by a second and third wave, eventually dying out from herd immunity. The fact that this epidemic is being extended with multiple large waves after 18 months and promising to continue into a second year should be evidence in itself that the vaccines, being the novel factor, are the probable cause of extending the viral spread.
We should be thinking about the uninfected-vaccinated / but later infected for reinfection. Vaccination may limit the body’s ability to develop lasting robust immunity.
Yes, but also various interventions (lockdowns, school closures, etc.) contributed to this.
Since the virus seem to have no huge effect on children and young people, if they let the virus rip through that population (and of course protect the vulnerable), you would have 30+% of population heard immunity that is robust (both in longevity and resilience to variants).
I’m in Vermont. I gave up trying to find data on who exactly is dying here—Gov Scott says it’s 85% the unvaxxed. But, last time I checked, 97% of people 65+ were vaxxed. So I figure anyone over 65 was jabbed.
vt and me have 'outdone' the neighbors per my resident karen, nh has done bad per my karen. we live in metro boston part of nh!
so vt and me are "catching up". maybe people are more mobile when vaxxed? for me. vt and nh we have leaf season starting in a week or two more mobility and tourists from ny, ct and nj.
today boston covid panic radio: 1700 new +pcr and 13 new deaths. idk what data base......
so far i take a live free or die approach, i am vaxxed i do quercetin etc and i only mask in medical facility when required.
The problems I see with that theory are: 1. That would selectively kill off the most trusting and easily manipulated, leaving mainly those most likely to put up a fight as the surviving population. 2. Drastic reduction of the taxpayer base, and hence, reducing the wealth building potential of the oligarchs, which relies heavily on the abundant supply of both labor and consumers.
Gato, why do you say southern states peak flu and respiratory season is in August? That doesn’t seem to be the case, as a southerner who lived in the South until 1999. It’s blasted hot there in August. Most people stay inside in air conditioned homes and apartments from at least June until September. Maybe that is why they had big outbreaks in summer? Lots of indoor spread. Flu season doesn’t start in the south usually until at least November and doesn’t really get going well until January. I remember having 104 fever caused by influenza which struck me on March 31st one year, a day that will live in infamy. That’s later than most influenza, but not out of the realm of possibility. I’d be happy to hear an answer to my question to you. Thanks, cat.
Well I wondered why suddenly a lot of people were masking up again. I stopped watching tv leading up to election, & stopped following Maine cdc announcements when it became clear they're spewing bs. We were flay as a pancake last year & tourism way down. This year more normal & the "furrigners" from NY & points west are still plentiful. Maybe brought covid variants with them?
We still aren't having fall weather. Not even close to having 1st frost & neighbor is selling tomatoes from her garden. So I'm not sure season is to blame.
Still days are shortening a bit & many dense cloudy ones, so maybe enough to lower d3 levels?
Last summer, told my friends this is "the great cull.". Getting rid of us useless eaters. Yeadon says with "plausible deniability." I said to keep from overwhelming the morgues & panicking the sheeple.
Occurred to me last January: what if the spike causes the disease? Occurred to Salk Institute too, & April 30 they announced it. Doesn't need viable virus to bind, either! So here we are...
Why try and make sense of bankers and big business deciding medical policies? The media keep broadcasting that there is a deadly virus out there and the vaccine is the answer. People don't see articles like this in large numbers. How many read your blogs compared to those who hear or read MSM?
This is why I fear the truth won’t come out. Most people I dare talk to about covid, vaccines in any detail are working from a set of very different “facts” than I am. I see that in the few MSM articles and videos I ingest. It’s like there are two parallel worlds happening on the same planet at the same time.
The low numbers in northern New England up till now is one of the most baffling aspects of Covid in the U.S. Spread from NY and southern New England should've led to higher numbers in northern New England last year, but it didn't happen.
VT had a bad flu season 2018-2019 and that may have provided some natural immunity. (Pacific Rim too, and that's been offered as the reason for the initial low infection rate there.)
In 2020, NE burned its infectivity fuel off-season in the spring, when testing wasn't ready to make the wave look big (as did regular England, ironically). Positivity rates were higher in southern NE than the north; but only Maine doesn't show a testing positivity spike in spring 2020. Mass is in the middle at 20% in April https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/massachusetts
Sounds a lot like what Geert Vanden Bossche warned the world about last year.
a lot of folks were warning about this. (certain internet felines included). running the. ost rapid and widespread vaccine rollout in human history with an entirely new functional pathway never before used in humans and known to have a lot of problems and risks on the basis of 3 months of data (when they usually take 7 to 10 years to test) was way beyond reckless.
they thought they were sterilizing and they were not.
that's an astonishing mistake to make and let go on.
If they got even the fundamental functionality of the vaccine wrong then the possibilities for unforseen consequences must be limitless?
Who says they got it wrong. You only hand out a drug for free when you expect people to return for seconds.
Yes, think about all public school teachers, they are as a group the epitome of ill-health. Vast majority are overweight and many manifest numerous signs of metabolic dysregulation.
They are pushing for all students to be vaccinated and in the case of D.C. without parents approval.
Twenty plus students in a closed room exhaling viral particles for hours and the teacher.
What could go wrong?
It's when I play out scenarios like that above is when it really does feel less conspiratorial but incompetence that is running amok.
Agree - it’s not a conspiracy theory or global sinister plan. Maybe a handful of people had malicious intent but the vast majority of this is bad policy build on bad assumptions. Fear based decision making fueling Bureaucracy and far too few people asking questions/ using common sense
Hmmm...then why censor the very valid and educated opinion of HUNDREDS of scientists, medical professionals, and researchers? Why threaten with suspension or license removal any dr who prescribes certain generic drugs that are saving lives? And why deny the existence of natural immunity? Ultimately, this is about profit not health. Otherwise, "Mr. Global" (per Dr. Reiner Fuellmich) wouldn't be pushing to vaccinate healthy kids at risk of cardiovascular problems.
I laid out a full "benign theory of intention" for expert behavior in July that slotted treatment suppression under "rather not admit being wrong about an outdated conventional belief than save lives."
It was really just an exercise in open-mindedness, but it's gone out of the window with the summer's redoubling on remdesivir and ventilators on the healthcare system end and simultaneous messaging emphasizing "pandemic of the unvaccinated" on the media/state end. It is not plausible that the "Covid 2021 narrative reboot" is some accident.
Totally hear you on this! I agree that censorship is wrong and the doctors/“Heath institutions” that are depriving treatment.. are bordering if not fully in the zone of malpractice BUT I don’t think it’s cause they’re all “in on it”. Try and get 3 people to keep a secret and you’ll find out how difficult a conspiracy of this nature is. Most people in public power are not highly qualified and those that are.. are too afraid/smart to buck the official narrative. It’s poor incentive structures driving this. Upton Sinclair said it best: “ It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”
I've always believed covid was an accidental lab leak as a result of some incompetence but I'm starting to harden my opinion. It's just been too damn useful to the CCP.
My daughter is the librarian for a West Michigan high school. Five fully vaxxed teachers are out w CV and two are waiting for results.
They needed to do challenge trials with the new vaccines- that was the only way to assess both the efficacy and duration of the immune response in the time window they ended up using for the half-assed Phase III trial. These were questions that were answerable, but it was almost like they didn't want an answer. We are getting the answers now when it is too late do anything about it.
what evidence do you have they thought they were sterilizing.
FYI, if you're interested. Vanden Bossche and Malone...
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=notif&v=871272056853663¬if_id=1632589215897357¬if_t=live_video_explicit
Malone is saying the same thing that you are. Vaxxed are super-spreaders.
They denigrated Vanden Bossche because he was a Veterinarian.
And because he was right! I think they knew he was right. And they plowed ahead anyway. Get a rope!
Pfizer CEO is a vet and nobody seems to denigrate him for it...
It's easy when you tow the party line. It's the contrarians that get attacked.
Yes, but vaccine-enhanced transmission has been well known in poultry (Marek disease, https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198), so he knew about it.
There is a new video featuring both Geert Vanden Bossche and Robert Malone.
https://youtu.be/qP31cfD3YOY
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=notif&v=871272056853663¬if_id=1632589215897357¬if_t=live_video_explicit
Herd immunity is based not only on the transmissibility of the disease, but also on the behavioral changes the disease causes. For example, a disease that knocks you on your ass, also limits your social interactions.
What if the Covid Vax lowers symptoms so you continue to interact normally but doesn't lower transmissibility?
In essence, the vaccines may have raised the herd immunity threshold.
Maybe we were done and then vaxxed our way into the current waves.
That would suck.
Something other than what was promised is going on that's for sure. Perhaps it is time to revisit some assumptions:
1) immunity = protection from viral infection & replication. We have never tested for rna sequences believed to be indicative of a particular viral species at this scale ever before. Moreover, traditionally, testing followed presentation of illness, so a naive assumption has been that if illness declines so does the virus, and if illness in a population disappears well so has the virus. But what if viruses normally rarely cause illness, doing so after all reflects a robust immune response that hampers viral replication. Wouldn't evolution favor viral replication without over stimulating the immune response that results in illness? If so, we need to rethink what we believe “immunity” to be … as it would be as much a feature of viral activity as that of the host in which it operates. So, “herd immunity” meaning the virus is driven completely out of a population is likely false, at least in many if not most cases. This is just wild speculation of course.
2) these shots are “vaccines” — why in the world would we ever think that producing a version of a protein assumed to have been part of the wild virus from 2019 in order to stimulate antibody production narrowly targeted to that spike protein would really yield the effect of a vaccine? Seems like the most that can be claimed is that this is a rather dangerous preventative tonic that lasts for a few weeks and nothing more. Calling it a vaccine leads to false thinking about what these shots deliver and what we might expect from them. (see “Sapir-Whorf” hypothesis)
Respiratory and gut viruses are not one size fits all. For some of them, the question of whether we are continually re-perpetuating them via subclinical / asymptomatic encounter despite "sterilizing immunity" is interesting (measles? polio?), but the traditional paradigm of get sick once, don't get sick again holds; for others, any observation of the immune system not clouded by Germ Theory Dogma makes it clear that our bodies are intentionally bidding for not just asymptomatic but symptomatic re-challenge. The idea of a "sterilizing" vaccine for coronavirus is bonkers.
Kudos to user Tom Walsh who shared this video by Jonathan Jay Couey, who is developing a theory that some genius thought the SARS-CoV-2 spike would form a swiss army knife anti-spike antibody against severe outcomes (as opposed to using it as a self-spreading vector for another anti-viral vaccine, SC2 was designed as a vector for itself; total scientific nonsense which is why it is exactly the kind of thing pharma researchers might try). You can kind of just parachute in at 59:00 but the whole video is good https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1155458003?t=00h59m04s
Hey, I really appreciated that link. Thank you.
Or you can just look at this chart. This is all the ICUs in the US. Light blue line. Then it is all of the occupied beds as a national average. Dark blue line. Then it is the number of beds occupied by Covid patients. Red line. See pre-vax winter and post-vax summer. Tell me what you see...
https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiODMzMWUxODEtNzMyNy00NWJjLWIzNTktYzJiZGMxMjFiMTgyIiwidCI6IjQ4ZGIxMmFjLTVkYzMtNGQ1MS05N2VkLTVhM2RkZTYxOTlmYyJ9&pageName=ReportSectionf97385449b74f863ad3b
Now search for the University of Alabama hospital in Birmingham. See same datapoints. How's it look?
The dancing nurses of TikTok and their "our hospitals cant take this" are lying.
icu's are losing $$! baseline potential is 80k they need 90%!
same for hospital beds!
I’m not sure if you saw the message yesterday I added to a previous article, but looking at VT, a highly vaccinated state, and their biweekly summaries, it appears over the last four weeks they’ve added 28 deaths, 23 of which were breakthrough. Additionally, by my math on CFR, the breakthrough CFR is a magnitude higher than the remaining, presumably unvaccinated or partially vaccinated population (though testing levels likely result in bias here).
This is not a good sign if indeed the state ends up playing catch up.
Looking at the biweekly summary reports and taking the delta over the last month (8/27 and 9/24 reports):
Cases: 1610 breakthrough out of 4864 total (33%)
Hospitalizations: 46 breakthrough out of 144 total (32%)
Deaths: 23 breakthrough out of 28 total (82%)
https://www.healthvermont.gov/covid-19/current-activity/data-summary
Where exactly are you seeing that? I'm not arguing with you, I'm just trying locate that data in the link above that specifically shows that the last 23 of the total 28 deaths in VT were from the vaccinated.
Look at the page 24 of the 8/27 and 9/24 reports. Over the four weeks, the difference in the 2021 deaths is 28. Thus an inference of 28 deaths over that time period.
Page 36, if I recall correctly displays breakthrough deaths. The difference in the two reports is 23.
Hence, over the last four weeks 23 breakthrough deaths were added and 28 total deaths added.
Vermont data is pretty opaque. But if you know the age of deaths, you can sort of figure out how likely it was they were vaxxed. 99% of 70+ are vaxxed, for example.
“It will also be brutal on the unvaccinated who, ironically, would need protection FROM the vaccinated”
By this do we mean unvaccinated and w/o natural immunity? Are we expecting that natural immunity will still hold, even in the face of these vaccine-selected hotter strains?
Every unvaxxed I know is loaded with vitamins C, D3, quercetin, zinc and other supplements. And staying strong. 😁 Last year, I read a study re: D3 and ability to minimize severity, lowering risk of hospitalization. There are risk-free amd cheap ways to avoid severity. But msm and Fauci don't want the masses to know. This type of low-risk prevention strategy could've been used on anyone <50 amd healthy. There was absolutely no need to push an experimental technology on everyone.
I am *vaxxed* and my daily regimen includes all those. I was already on D3 anyway for a deficiency diagnosed years ago. Interestingly -- and I have not seen this noted by any of the usual suspect media outlets that cover toilet paper shortages as societal extinction crises -- it is becoming impossible to find zinc supplements in grocery and drug stores, at least here in Maryland. I had to order mine online.
We just don’t know the answer to that as yet.
El gato…What in the world is going on with the flu. There is just no way it disappears. That just does not make any sense to me. Is just everything getting lumped into Covid to scare people and push new vax technology. Also a while ago I listened to a virologist say that we would not be able to differentiate Covid from ADE unless autopsies were done. When you look at the graph of the United States (as a whole) we have more deaths for this time of the year than last year this time. That doesn’t make any sense with so many people vaccinated and the vaccine decreasing hospitalization and death by even just 50%. Why would we be seeing more deaths?
actually, i think it could if there is a form of viral outcompete going on.
it looks to me like covid basically outcompetes flu and stops it from being infective by monopolizing infection routed and possibly receptors.
many have tried to argue that it was masks, distancing, etc, but clearly this had no effect on rhinovirus or RSV, so i think it must be outcompete.
we've done a lot of flu testing and found just about none.
read the link on "vaccines superspread hypothesis." i fear that that is why we are seeing more deaths
So the outcompete thing is real…I am a physician and just do not remember ever hearing about anything like that. However I will admit to not being awesome at infectious disease. What doesn’t make sense even with the super spreader idea is that so many people have already been infected and should be immune, and if the vaccines are actually decreasing hospitalization and death by 50% it just seems crazy that we’re still seeing more death. Thanks for responding by the way.
I am also a physician and agree with Gato on this. I think there is an outcompete issue and covid pushed out the flu. As for the effect of the vaccinated superspreaders on the naturally immune - that is a great question. From the data I have seen, those folks are still holding strong. But not sure anyone has great data on this. Sadly, our own CDC is completely inept and so we are relying on UK and Israeli data to draw comclusions. Great data would answer some of these questions but it is not available.
Dr. McCullough said in this interview (early on) that the covid test did not distinguish between covid and flu. https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2021/09/your-mind-is-about-to-be-blown-dr-peter-mccullough-drops-major-covid-bombs-james-red-pills-america-must-video-3599727.html?fbclid=IwAR0yRRf7GzTtiwvw0OfvGuIK6gzRNTj6cX5Cu3Qds3YIWZbP3XY2dvOtTWM
Do you remember the virologist? That "Severe Covid 19" is more plausibly previously-primed ADE than viral in pathology is what I have been saying for a while, but I didn't get the idea from a virologist - I stole it from an outsider researcher (Vinu Arumugham), so it would be interesting to find a conventional virologist saying it.
The displacement/out-competition theory performs poorly for explaining Thailand and New Zealand, where there was neither flu nor SARS-CoV-2 last year. Flu testing is based on centralized standards which easily can be arbitrarily changed to guarantee a null result, of course.
It was quite a while ago that I watch the video. Now you have me questioning… She may have been an epidemiologists.
"there is very plausible case to be made that these vaccines are actually increasing spread and may well be selecting for hotter, more dangerous virus. "
Excuse me for reiterating the obvious: Historically, the normal course of a viral epidemic would be an initial exponential high spike followed by a second and third wave, eventually dying out from herd immunity. The fact that this epidemic is being extended with multiple large waves after 18 months and promising to continue into a second year should be evidence in itself that the vaccines, being the novel factor, are the probable cause of extending the viral spread.
We should be thinking about the uninfected-vaccinated / but later infected for reinfection. Vaccination may limit the body’s ability to develop lasting robust immunity.
Yes, but also various interventions (lockdowns, school closures, etc.) contributed to this.
Since the virus seem to have no huge effect on children and young people, if they let the virus rip through that population (and of course protect the vulnerable), you would have 30+% of population heard immunity that is robust (both in longevity and resilience to variants).
I’m in Vermont. I gave up trying to find data on who exactly is dying here—Gov Scott says it’s 85% the unvaxxed. But, last time I checked, 97% of people 65+ were vaxxed. So I figure anyone over 65 was jabbed.
very early for respiratory virus spike!!
vt and me have 'outdone' the neighbors per my resident karen, nh has done bad per my karen. we live in metro boston part of nh!
so vt and me are "catching up". maybe people are more mobile when vaxxed? for me. vt and nh we have leaf season starting in a week or two more mobility and tourists from ny, ct and nj.
today boston covid panic radio: 1700 new +pcr and 13 new deaths. idk what data base......
so far i take a live free or die approach, i am vaxxed i do quercetin etc and i only mask in medical facility when required.
sick of the covidian panic!
off topic need to watch nys. deaths had delinked from cases, very low for a long time. may be the count, may bsomthing else.
no near state showed as much delink......
nh's case rise is at least a few weeks in place, way early!!
Perfect Bill Gates’esque weapon:
1. Depopulate
2. Rollover more power to tech oligarchs
3. Transfer more money to hospitals from the taxpayer and therefore to the wealthy stockholders
The problems I see with that theory are: 1. That would selectively kill off the most trusting and easily manipulated, leaving mainly those most likely to put up a fight as the surviving population. 2. Drastic reduction of the taxpayer base, and hence, reducing the wealth building potential of the oligarchs, which relies heavily on the abundant supply of both labor and consumers.
Gato, why do you say southern states peak flu and respiratory season is in August? That doesn’t seem to be the case, as a southerner who lived in the South until 1999. It’s blasted hot there in August. Most people stay inside in air conditioned homes and apartments from at least June until September. Maybe that is why they had big outbreaks in summer? Lots of indoor spread. Flu season doesn’t start in the south usually until at least November and doesn’t really get going well until January. I remember having 104 fever caused by influenza which struck me on March 31st one year, a day that will live in infamy. That’s later than most influenza, but not out of the realm of possibility. I’d be happy to hear an answer to my question to you. Thanks, cat.
Well I wondered why suddenly a lot of people were masking up again. I stopped watching tv leading up to election, & stopped following Maine cdc announcements when it became clear they're spewing bs. We were flay as a pancake last year & tourism way down. This year more normal & the "furrigners" from NY & points west are still plentiful. Maybe brought covid variants with them?
We still aren't having fall weather. Not even close to having 1st frost & neighbor is selling tomatoes from her garden. So I'm not sure season is to blame.
Still days are shortening a bit & many dense cloudy ones, so maybe enough to lower d3 levels?
Last summer, told my friends this is "the great cull.". Getting rid of us useless eaters. Yeadon says with "plausible deniability." I said to keep from overwhelming the morgues & panicking the sheeple.
Occurred to me last January: what if the spike causes the disease? Occurred to Salk Institute too, & April 30 they announced it. Doesn't need viable virus to bind, either! So here we are...
Why try and make sense of bankers and big business deciding medical policies? The media keep broadcasting that there is a deadly virus out there and the vaccine is the answer. People don't see articles like this in large numbers. How many read your blogs compared to those who hear or read MSM?
This is why I fear the truth won’t come out. Most people I dare talk to about covid, vaccines in any detail are working from a set of very different “facts” than I am. I see that in the few MSM articles and videos I ingest. It’s like there are two parallel worlds happening on the same planet at the same time.
The low numbers in northern New England up till now is one of the most baffling aspects of Covid in the U.S. Spread from NY and southern New England should've led to higher numbers in northern New England last year, but it didn't happen.
How many elevators are there in northern New England? In some places its easier to dodge the virus than others.
Hard lockdown last year in Maine. Open this year, tourism back, & major supermarket chain refused to enforce masks or even distancing this year.
VT had a bad flu season 2018-2019 and that may have provided some natural immunity. (Pacific Rim too, and that's been offered as the reason for the initial low infection rate there.)
Have you been there? Those people invented “social distance”!
In 2020, NE burned its infectivity fuel off-season in the spring, when testing wasn't ready to make the wave look big (as did regular England, ironically). Positivity rates were higher in southern NE than the north; but only Maine doesn't show a testing positivity spike in spring 2020. Mass is in the middle at 20% in April https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/massachusetts
I agree. I’m in Vt. Lots of people I know were sick early on, before testing. Like myself, in March.
I had a strange case of the trots in Feb 20. No normal cause I could think of. Much later, when belated added as symptom, it came to mind...
"these are simply not false and the US data on vaccination status has become a disaster."
I think you meant "these are simply false" or "these are simply not true"?
Anyway these trends are obviously all just because we stopped requiring masks. :)