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We will protect the kids like we protected the airports after 9/11. Patriot act, TSA, and mass surveillance. Feeling safer, kittens?

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No. Actually it's "terrifying".

Go ask a few people in line at airport security if trading freedom for safety was worth it. Not only do they look at you weird for asking such...they do not even know what you're talking about. Serious. Try it...it's really depressing.

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Last year I mentioned to wife's aunt that TSA is useless because it misses about 70-80% of 'fake' weapons when they do effectiveness audits.

She looked at me like I had 2 heads or was making it up. The very thought TSA would be so ineffective was inconceivable.

I suspect they are just as bad today as in 2017-ish when these results were publicized. If they'd have improved they'd be crowing about it so its only logical conclusion is they simply stopped reporting results since I can't find anything more recent than about 2018 on this topic.

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They haven't improved. They've just become more obnoxious.

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Imagine Elon Musk as the Efficiency Czar going through a TSA security screening.

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As they feel more powerless in real life, the more incentive to impose what power they have on others.

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I know someone who accidentally went through three or four international airports (two in the USA) with a couple small bullets he had failed to notice while cleaning out his backpack for travel. He discovered them in Malaysia, where mere possession of such puts you in prison.

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Now safely buried in the rainforest, I hope.

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This is in no small part the reason I don’t fly anymore.

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I'm thinking that anywhere I have to go in the continental U.S. I'm driving.

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Not only have I thought it, I’ve been doing it. Haven’t flown since returning home from vacation in March 2020 as the panic over the plandemic was just coming into view.

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while they aren't even maintaining the Planes well anymore.

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Which one of the 127 of the TSA workers at one of the checkpoints should I ask first?

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And a cacophony of barking from those trolls.

Paid by us so the government can take otherwise decent people and turn them into little brownshirts.

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The airport security people over here (Switzerland) are generally polite and not hostile at all. Must be an American thing.

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Yup. Horrible in the US

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And remember, it's almost always the *illusion* of safety.

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Makes me wonder what "safety" we had to trade for liberty when we were growing up. We know the change of the post 9/11 security measures, but what did we give up before?

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Oh a few things. But nothing like the Patriot Act

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I used to love flying. Then terrorists came around, security and surveillance... I have not been on a plane in 7 years - hate airports to begin with (and the US flights are almost always 3 miles from the entrance) and my parents are now in a retirement home that probably won't let un-injected me in.

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Nope

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I tell you, I felt so safe hearing that grandma was dragged out of line at the airport and told to take her shoes off while they frisked her.

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And I “think” (not positive but would LOVE your guys’ take on this) that they are nefariously hijacking the SAVE Act to push through Real ID again, and then of course it will actually be digital ID. They appeal to us knowing how much all of us want voter ID - but it comes at too high of a cost if this article is correct:

https://newswithviews.com/the-diabolical-save-act-puts-americans-in-chains/

Tell me what you think. Should we be pushing for that SAVE act??

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How is voter ID complicated to implement, I don't get it?

Over here (Germany), everyone needs to register with the city/council when you buy or rent a flat (to pay taxes and fees for garbage collection) . When there is an election, everyone who is registered and over 18 years old gets a letter with your name and address on it and an instruction where you need to go to vote (usually the local schools). At the place of voting, you need to show an ID (Passport, National ID Card) and you get one paper ballot to vote and you are crossed off a list (all manually, on paper).

Technically, you can decide to not register with the council. You cannot vote in that case and your garbage won't be collected and you will likely not be able to use utility services such as electricity or cable TV. There is very little election fraud because the system is difficult to cheat. Too many real people are involved, ID checkers, crossing you off the paper list of voters, everything on paper only.

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Sep 13·edited Sep 13

In the US, different states have different rules. In Nebraska (a "red" state), paper is used except perhaps for machine-counting of the ballots. The polling places are open from 8 am to 8 pm, commonly in a church. You go in when you want, and usually there is hardly any line. You are met by a row of about four friendly poll workers seated at a line of light tables. Until this last year, when photo ID came to be required, they just asked you your name, looked you up in a notebook of registered voters, and then asked for your address to confirm. They mark you off the list, give you a paper ballot in an opaque plastic sleeve, and send you to a little curtained booth to fill it out with a pencil to be found at the booth. When done, you return the ballot in its plastic sleeve to the last poll worker in line, who empties the ballot into a collection box without looking at it. They thank you for voting, and offer you an "I voted today" sticker to wear with virtue-signaling pride if you care to.

With voter ID, it's the same as before, except that now we have to show a card, typically our driver's license. I suppose if a cheater had known the name and address of someone in another precinct who wasn't voting, they could have voted twice and got away with it; now the photo ID rule would thwart them. I doubt it was ever much of a problem anyway.

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The one thing they'll never use it for is voting.

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What would be worse would be that everyone needs it for voting, and the system, knowing who you are, changes your vote. There would be no way to audit such a system from the outside.

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Yes. If the rule of the secret ballot is preserved, then the ID would admit you to vote, but would not be tied to your vote. If that boundary is bridged by machine voting tied to ID, then they could make votes say anything they wanted.

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"they could make votes say anything they wanted"

You mean like they're doing now?

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Individually, as opposed to making up the counts. (Not that it matters.)

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Exactly!

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Exactly. All the while telling the populous that the voting process is accurate, secure, and totally unhackable. "The most secure election system in history" the "experts" will tell us.

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Yuppers!

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Voting? ID is still unnecessary

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Sep 12·edited Sep 12

They will likely make voting mandatory, though there will only be one choice on the ballot. = Soviet style compliance. Your digital ID won't matter then. Of course the unpersoned may not even be aware there is an election

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I disagree. You will be able to vote for whoever you want but somehow the establishment candidate always seems to win by a large margin. Everyone you know says they voted for the opposition, but the approved social media and internet sites all say that your candidate was deeply unpopular.

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So, yeah, kinda like now. 😑

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Bet they do, once they can control and recognize who is voting for who. The ultimate control on outcome.

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There is no doubt that unrestricted internet use in people under say 16 is harmful but government don’t care about kid’s health or safety. See Vaccines or food to get clear on it.

This is definitely Trojan horsing around.

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Exactly.

"the instinct to “protect the kids” is strong and those who would manipulate the populace bank on this."

What they really want is to eliminate a parents "instincts" and have it sub'd out to the state.

To me this is the threat; the real Trojan Horse.

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The public library has all kinds of books that aren't suitable for young people, it has terribly written books, it has books with ridiculous endings... But that doesn't mean the public library should be demolished. The same goes for the internet. What it does mean - IMO - is that parents need to be guiding and guarding their children as to what is being seen/heard/tasted/touched to make sure that it's appropriate for them. Parenting is the hardest job on the planet - there's no instruction manual, it's 24/7, there are no guarantees as to how the kids age gonna turn out - no matter how great a parent you are - there are so many variables that can make a difference in the path they decide to take. Basically, it's a crap shoot. Just wish every parent would realize that it's the most important job on the planet.

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Spot on.

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Spot on. Parents need to trust themselves more and the government less. Nothing in life is free. NOTHING.

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So true. They love to take all control and no blame at the high school!!!

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Just as there is ‘no doubt’ Mankind is causing catastrophic climate change, so we must act to destroy our society and economy.

Doubt is our best defence - always.

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Introduction of doubt leaves the mind open I agree but I have a teenager and I can tell you that phone is a toxic piece of shit in the hands of young children. I’ve had plenty of strategies from removal of the device (months not days) to time restrictions etc. social norms are big in the teens and it’s a shit show.

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Living in a virtual world. Without being attentive to life around in the present moment. The antithesis of enlightenment.

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Sep 12·edited Sep 12

My daughter is almost 12

Every couple weeks I hear "can I have a phone? Brooklyn has a phone, Jenny has a phone, Carrie has a phone, why can't I have a phone?"

And every time I answer No

See how easy it is.

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Granddaughter is eight and constantly using Grandma's phone when she comes over. Taking the phone away results in a screaming, crying, temper tantrum. Before she's 12, I have no doubt her mother or father (divorced parent guilt) will get her a phone just to have some peace in the house or punish the ex.

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YES! And visits are challenging since a variation on a routine is "reportable". Lots of strain and too much screen time - need for digital detox every single time, knowing things go back to "normal" and then rinse and repeat in the future. A real shame.

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👏👏👏👏💯🙏

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"Shall make no law". Oh, that's why the New York Times published that article about the Constitution being a threat to "democracy".

Your 12 year old daughter will need an ID to access the internet but no questions will be asked when she shows up to Planned Parenthood with a 45 year old Haitian pimp, and two black eyes, to get a taxpayer funded abortion.

The brave feminist nurses will make sure your daughter is "protected" from her parents by not asking any questions about the two black eyes or the large black man out front trying to coax a cat out from under a parked car. Your daughter has a right to privacy. She is mature enough to make her own decisions on these matters but her young impressionable mind must be protected from right wing memes on the internet.

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"The general public is being reduced to a state where people not only are unable to find out about the truth, but also become unable to search for the truth because they are satisfied with deception and trickery that have determined their convictions, satisfied with a fictitious reality created by design through the abuse of language."

- Joseph Piper.

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While social media for ANYONE under the age of consent should be eliminated, the STATE has no business being involved... It's called parenting.... I do find it ironic that "the children" will be old enough to vote one day and may take their revenge on the very government that imposed this on them against their will...

Let me be the first to welcome you all to the newly created Black Market for digital ID's...

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They won’t be able conceptualize “voting against the government”

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1 BILLION LIKES

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You may be too young to know - I’m not - that much the same argument was made for TV. Children shouldn’t be allowed TV: it would stop them reading, play, exercise, etc and it would cause eye damage too.

When freedom become selective and arbitrary, in the gift of others - it no longer exists.

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One hundred percent of the time when someone says "It's about the children" I walk out -- literally. Not once in my life experience has it actually been about the children. This is the oldest manipulative fraud in the book and needs to be treated as such. If you hear those words about anything, ever -- RUN.

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Yeah. The next step is we must throw a few children in the volcano to save the rest of the children.

Some things never change.

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Same is going on here in Canada. The Online Harms Act is being brought in under the cover of protecting children, but is vastly more draconian.

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It's dictatorial, full stop. If it's passed and Poliviere, or whomever else, refuses to promise to repeal it upon taking office then the Canadian polity is fundamentally and irreparably broken.

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Prohibition never works.

People will get around it.

Parents will just log in for their kids.

It will be very difficult to enforce

And yes, It is all about digital ID

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Worth watching Mike Benz this week show you how CIA, DoD, NSAID train journalists to limit speech. Your money spent to control you and benefit corporations.

https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1829403391149363485?s=19

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Mike Benz opened my eyes to the censorship machine like no other.

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Agree. Very powerful interview.

What we're seeing isn't the end of the world, it's the end of the grand illusion.

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Or perhaps a transition into some kind of sick new improved illusion?

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It is like national ID schemes that use "this will root out non-citizens who try to vote) as the thin edge of the wedge. I don't want to live in a "show us your papers" country, no matter what somebody promises me. It is not, for me, a trade that is worth it.

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And yet we did in 20-21: for most of us, not all, we did it willingly.

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I didn't.

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Nor I

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Nor I, but the majority of my friends and acquaintances did. And that scares me.

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I didn’t.

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As we have found ourselves behind the eight ball in all these globalist plans to control and eliminate us, I wish, if anything could move us as a herd, this would. If a sufficient percentage of the people would unite and agree to tune out and turn off the internet, before those in power do it for us, we might derail their plans. Go back to shopping locally, use cash not cards, dump the phones or use only for calls, meet/talk with your neighbors, find a farmer's market, etc. Maybe it's already too late, but if there was ever a time to "Just Say No" it's now. At the very least, boycott every one of those corporations supporting this. If we sit back and do nothing, then it's game over. You best choose now what means more, what stance you will take. As the Dylan song goes, "Now it may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody."

"Also, it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark..." (Revelation 13:16)

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This is a dark development.

The Agenda rolls on. Always.

Because we didn't hang them for it^ when they declared war on us in 2020.

And given the 'other party' wanted to bring in something similar I am certain it will get through.

You see in Australia it is less that we have 2 contending parties and rather 2 cheeks of the same ass when it comes to the choice of governing psychopaths.

It is Pepsi or Coke. Always.

The appearance of choice.

Both seem utterly beholden to whatever Evil holds the puppet strings around the world. Whatever animates the insane policies that have sprouted like weeds in the long summer days since 2019.

And the somnambulant majority here, so caught up in runaway inflation and astronomic real estate prices, will rationalise their acquiescence to this final nail in the coffin with little more than a shrug. The Trojan, of protection of children. A narrative spun by people who mandated those small humans be injected with a bioweapon. For a 'virus' that posed no statistical threat to them. Because they care that much.

It is no comfort that blind freddy predicted this move - and these tactics - years ago.

The Monster needed the final pieces of the digital prison to reach endgame. And they needed people to accept the mark. At first. After, it won't matter. Slaves born in a prison will never know anything else. And while we have been in a prison all our lives, it has been of a very different form to that which is about to drop around us all.

The Monster has been acting hasty around the world of late. The mask for its puppets, like Keir Stalin, has been slipping as they surge their destruction. Once again they are lunging for the finish line.

The reveal is almost upon us.

Eyes Open, friends.

Peace.

^-After trials, naturally. Their criminality is now known to be without any possible doubt. As if it was not obvious at the time. As if the tens of millions of our brothers and sisters murdered by these ghouls are not screaming out for justice.

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You’ve tapped into one if my horrific nightmares.

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Government = Trojan horse. NEVER FORGET!

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So true.

Government is inherently Evil.

All kinds. Always.

And it has just 1 play which it uses endlessly.

Alas, with the fluoridated/jabbed/poisoned citizenry in our nations, how many can see through the obvious deception?

How many can see the puppet strings? The Monster behind the (now)clear curtain? Or the Dystopia that awaits us if we don't draw a line now and scream: "NO!"?

Peace.

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Imagine a few years from now all of your life and existence is now digitalized. There are no paper records of any kind allowed and they are against the law to have or keep. Then one fine day, the Chinese Hacker Association breaks into the system and erases all your records. You are now a big fat zero with nothing to prove you even exist. Perfect! The government psychos and hired illegal alien thugs can just take you out and poof...you are dead and never were. Still want to be digitalized to death?

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Will the hackers become the main weapon in 4th generation war? Each country or group erasing the digital existence of the others? Logic bombs incoming. Cyber Monday no longer about selling electronic gizmos and "smart" appliances.

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