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A woman I worked with would not eat even the tiniest bit of dietary fat. Dry toast, little to no meat. Her mom was the same she told me. Her mom died of Alzheimer’s and she too is now in a nursing home memory care unit. That isn’t the whole cause but we need cholesterol and fats for our brains. Our body makes cholesterol. Dietary fat too. Just not the seed oils like canola and sunflower, etc. they are poison.

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Yeah one of the big errors of our thinking is that eating fat makes us fat.

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Really. How many people have died or become chronically I’ll because of that, seed oils and other lies we’ve been told. Most recent: yeah we know what.

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Remember, those oilseed vs. saturated fat studies done in the 1950s and '60s (that supposedly showed margarine was better for you than butter, etc.) were funded by...

THE OILSEED INDUSTRY!!!

Another case of regulatory capture and pay-for-play research.

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The food pyramid is ridiculous and we see that clearly every day.

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The food pyramid was retired in the early 2000s, but its replacement may not be much better.

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It had as been shown to be a scam. Keys lied. The data was faulty

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Add in statins to block cholesterol and avoiding eggs and such because of that and you have a recipe for that sort of trouble. I think it was Dr. Fung who speculated that Alzheimer's and Dementia were a kind of "Type 3 Diabetes" - aggravated by poor diet. :(

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Eggs have gotten quite a bad rap.

I wonder if it is because they provide some hard-to-find nutrients and high grade protein at a bargain cost--even in these inflated prices--and turn random bugs and food waste into gold. Hmmm.

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LoL, this is why of course! It's not like we haven't been eating eggs, like, forever and it's not because the data was missing.

How very clever: First get people to deprive themselves of the essential nutrients and offer the "convenient alternative. Just evil.

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Eggs are seen as an eggs-istentialist threat of course by the industrial food industry. :)

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LOVE Dr Fung!!!! Everyone should follow his advice and most have no clue about him. Fasting is so KEY to most of our health issues.

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I have one of his books.

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When they finally come up with the Tacos and Beer Diet, I'm gonna be one seriously healthy guy.

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I have keto taco salads all the time. The crunch are pork rinds. Yum. Can’t help ya with the beer. Lol😀😩

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You can have my beer when you pry it from my cold dead hands!

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May not grab it but would certainly hoist a pint and roar a big “cheers”.

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy!

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Heard that before, but it's always a goodie! 💖🍻😎

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Haha love it 🌮🌮🌮

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I'm already ahead of the game on that one.

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Bueno!

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It's the excessive quantity of those seed oils that's harmful. (with the exception of trans fats, which should always be avoided.) By blanket condemning all seed oils, you risk not getting essential fatty acids (EFAs) which most don't get in the needed amounts. In other words, you are making the same errors the woman you cited as a bad example.

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No, you need to eat better oils, like EVOO or coconut, or avocado. Seed oils are industrial oils and high in omega 6 and used in almost all processed foods.

From well(dot)org:

Healthy sources of n-6 include poultry, eggs, meat (grass-fed), high quality olive oil, avocados, nuts, and seeds.

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"(with the exception of trans fats, which should always be avoided.)"

Must.Resist.Joke. Argh!

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Someone in high places will surely soon be giving "trans fats" a new name!

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There is one trans fat, conjugated linoleic acid or CLA (sometimes also called 'rumenic acid' as its primary source is ruminant animals -- meat and dairy products from ruminants eating a natural diet.

Anyway this fat is beneficial, as it reduces cancer and IIRC has other benefits too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjugated_linoleic_acid

n.b. this wikipedia article downplays the health benefits of CLA, another case of 'if you're not up on it, you'll be down on it' so common in the medical field.

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Transfats are broad transgender persons. Avoiding them in narrow spaces such as a lift will be difficult.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/12/29/transgender-and-other-trans-words-definitions/

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Mercola does extensive and exception work regarding this

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The 'essential fats' in seed oils are the omega-6 fatty acids, primarily linoleic acid. While they are essential, it is almost impossible to eat a diet low enough in them to be problematic. They should be eaten in balance with omega-3 fatty acids (linolenic, DHA, EPA etc.) in an ideal ratio around 1:1, which is found in traditional Mediterranean diets.

Modern diets that include significant contributions from oilseeds, including meat raised on corn and soybeans, have a much higher (and unhealthy) ratio up to 30:1.

Jo Robinson wrote a book in 2004 called 'Pasture Perfect' explaining the benefits of eating a diet derived from grasses rather than grains.

https://www.amazon.com/Pasture-Perfect-Choosing-Products-Grass-Fed/dp/0967811619

It's out of print but you can find it used. Worth reading if you have the time.

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Meat, meat, meat and more meat despite what the critics say.

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On my menu😀. I eat animal protein almost exclusively. I’m lucky there are many many of those local providers around me.

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The thing with seed oils is the industrial processes they use, the neuro-toxic chemicals, as much as anything.

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I watched how canola oil was made once. Crisco is from cotton milling left overs. The wide use of seed oils corresponds to the rise in obesity and chronic diseases. It’s like putting diesel in a gasoline car. I quit about 12 years ago. I have no chronic disease or pain at 75. I also practice other real healthy lifestyle things. I’m the oldest of 5 (1 died after her first shot sadly) but by far the healthiest. Fingers crossed! Cheers.

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That is very interesting. Real observing of how things are made should be an eye opener. I am in UK and did not know of Crisco. I have looked it up. Chemical extraction processes can use n-hexane. This is toxic.

I am sorry to hear about your sister. I am not aware of any of my family succumbing to the shots ( I warned them ahead in 2020), although a great aunt died in circumstances which make me rather suspicious. She was though late 80's and on beta-blockers I gathered, although otherwise leading a healthy lifestyle in Scotland.

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So, if one wishes to live a long life, one should begin doing crossword puzzles... 😉

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1) Direct advertising by pharma should immediately be stopped.

2) Redact the 1986 act that allows for no-liability for any pharma drug or vaccine. If liability for harm done by pharma kills the company, then we clearly don’t need the drugs/vaccines.

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Mandating one size fits all medical interventions is just really not okay. And could also have been included in this perceptive article.

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The pinnacle of idiocy, and demanded by “the experts”

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Or the pharma companies responsible...

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Two other pieces of that puzzle- how much of dementia is a consequence of other lifetime maintenance drugs? I am an holistic professional and the difference between the recovery rates in my clients who are not on meds vs. those who are is stunning- I am increasingly finding that my clients on meds (anti-hypertensive, heart meds, anti-anxiety, anti-depressants, even birth control, etc) have two choices: moderate palliation of side effects, or weaning off the drugs (where possible), so I’m shifting to a lot of support for the latter but I cannot legally suggest that, only help when it happens.

Two-the seed oil and sugar industry is ALSO a huge money machine. It’s not just pharma that doesn’t want you on real food. My family is primarily carnivore. It’s not cheap, but it’s not as expensive as people think; nutritional calorie-wise, you get a LOT of food out of a couple of steaks. I feed two teenaged boys, and my grocery bills break $2k every month, but most of the expensive stuff is the fluff and the road food for work lunches and quick grab-and-go. If we just eat steak and burgers, it’s less. Archer-Daniels-Midland and Monsanto do NOT want this.

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Fully agree.

Our family are carnivores as well.

I have used an Instant Pot for about 8 years now.

Use it twice a week:

I'll buy a boneless pork loin quarter, 6-7 lbs. Some salt, pepper, no sodium broth, pressure cook on high for 90 minutes, slow release for 60 minutes.

That feeds our 3 dogs for a week, unless I remove the sirloin part, which I use for pulled pork sandwiches.

Cheap and easy...

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Speaking of environmental toxins, I'd like to know how many elderly people who are on ZERO prescription medications and receive ZERO vaccines for flu, shingles, etc. end up with Alzheimers. Are there ANY?

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Is 59 close enough to be 'elderly'? I don't use any prescription meds, my environmental toxins are mostly illicit. I do the NYT crossword every day though. Results: I am starting to feel a little more forgetful in the short term, doing around-the-house activities. I guess I'll have hang around a while longer to reach the age where AZ becomes more prevalent; hopefully my mostly carnivore diet and avoidance of meds will keep my mind clear. (re: meds: I would have been on blood pressure meds for 30 years now if listened to the docs- B.P. around 140/90 since I was 17 yrs old (before those BP numbers were re-categorized as abnormally high!!))

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Ah, yes! The reworking of what's considered "normal" so they can put everyone on meds! Slick trick!

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Yes, what is normal is average, what is average becomes the new normal and the bottom common denominator and so on until one is dead.

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I don't have any actual data, but here in the US, I'd say "no" in most cases., but I'm not sure about homeless people. Even for the destitute, there are free clinics.

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Kudos for some common sense!

Rarely do I read a post that simply lays it out, logically.

I'm seventy, I don't work out, but I do at least 2 hours of physical labour every day...

And I do 95% of the cooking, for our family, and 3 dogs.

We're all healthy.

Go figure...

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People with desk jobs are the ones who need to "work out" because they don't get any physical exercise through their job. If you are doing physical labor everyday, you probably don't need the formal routine. That is also true for people who do actual physical labor for a job.

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I don't think Johns Hopkins is a good source of unbiased information anymore. Johns Hopkins ignored science when it began parroting the government lies about Covid. Even my own doctor told me that firing medical staff who refused to be vaccinated was a good thing and they should not be rehired even though they can't find enough qualified staff. I lost a lot of faith in his opinion as soon as that stupidity came out of his mouth and have considered finding another doctor. But that would most likely be a waste of time because anyone who looked at Covid with an unbiased thought probably also refused to be vaccinated by the killer vaccine and was culled. It leaves my chances of finding a doctor who still thinks the scientific method is better than drinking the koolaid very low and probably impossible. From climate junk science to medical malpractice, all of science has turned Rasputin.

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Marty Makary is a clear thinker and actually looks at data. He happens to be at Johns Hopkins.

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then he needs to leave JH.

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He may be, but he works for a scientifically corrupt organization.

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Try a functional medicine doctor. We have made the switch. They are focused on results, not selling drugs.

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find a good integrative health doc. In my experience FAR superior efficacy and clearing of illness / issues.

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So true. I was researching a medical/scientific issue recently and found myself skipping over anything published after 2020. I was only interested in pre-2020 data, when the medical community still had credibility. The land before covid.

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Well, the CDC hasn't had any credibility since the 1990s when it was pushing that everyone was susceptible to getting AIDS. It was a lie then and it still is. Covid just proved what people old enough to remember already knew about the CDC quacks.

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I fired my doctor in 2020 when he tried to convince me that even a loose fitting mask is effective at blocking an aerosolized airborne virus.

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The masks won't block any virus. They were just a fell good load of BS.

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that was my point. I knew that, the doctor knew that, but he still tried to convince me I should wear a mask. That is when I started to realize that the majority of our health care professionals no longer practice anything resembling medicine. they simply follow protocols set by administrators and bureaucrats that are more concerned with profits than healthy outcomes.

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Excellent essay.

A bit OT, but as someone whose Mom is suffering with Alzheimer's, I thought I'd pass this along to anyone out there with a loved one in the grips of this disease. Ashwagandha and CBD gummies have been damned near miraculous in quelling the aggressive, angry outbursts. Rx drugs worked for a bit, but their effects waned before too long. Mom is less aggressive and more content now. I highly recommend these OTC supplements.

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After 40 years of following the experts' advice to avoid saturated fat and eat a lot of complex carbs and vegetable oils, I had some issues. I was overweight and getting fatter, my eyesight was getting poor, I had hand tremors and had lifelong hayfever. At 40 I developed asthma and I followed my doctor's advice to take a steroid inhaler, which he said I would never not need and the dosage would go up as I got older. After a month on the inhaler, I was 10 lbs heavier and I knew I needed to find a better answer.

I did some research and went low carb with a heavy emphasis on red meat - my asthma disappeared in a couple days. No lie. Asthma gone. My hand tremors also disappeared, I lost a lot of weight and when my puppy chewed up my glasses I discovered i could see fine without them. How many people can say their vision improved as they got older? A decade later I tried the Carnivore diet and my hayfever, which I'd had my entire life, also disappeared.

I haven't seen a doctor since my asthma diagnosis in 2007. I am by far the healthiest 58 year old I know, people think I'm in my mid 40's. I've known for 15 years now that listening government, doctors and pharma is bad for my health. Over the years I've researched other topics (like Alzheimer's) and it's obvious to me that doctors have become legalized drug pushers who are slaves to standards of care that are developed by committees solely to benefit pharma. This served me well for COVID... I didn't believe a word they were saying so it was easier for me to look at alternatives.

I think healthcare as it exists today needs to be burned to the ground and started over.

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Interesting. Since attempting a low-carb diet I’ve not been bothered by my hay fever. Never made the connection.

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The carbs may not be the problem so much as the neuro-toxic substances such as glyphosate used on the cereals. These mess up the immune system.

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Possible - but where is the evidence?

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Well, it's just if you look at what glyphosate is chemically. It contains nitrogen which in such man made chemicals is the root of the neuro-toxicity. This interferes with the gut microbiome, suppressing of killing the bacteria we need to process food lower down the intestines.

And if it actually enters your body then this interferes with the immune system. So really it is just a question of logic. People can vary, but given how much food is poisoned in this way, especially cereals, it must be considered seriously as much of the issue.

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Wheat in particular has proteins in it that we have not evolved to metabolize properly. These proteins could easily be the cause of autoimmune issues.

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There are so many advertising campaigns from early on that people took as truth and never questioned. Slogans like “breakfast is the most important meal of the day” from Quaker and “milk does a body good” from the dairy farmers. All BS.

The food pyramid is solely based on which industry gives the most money back to the bureaucrats. Period. It has nothing to do with health. The fact that this is still currently taught as the ONLY healthy diet according to every single educational institution in the country is a clear indication of corruption at every level. Every employee of the health/fitness/nutrition community is required to support the government food pyramid or you will risk losing your license/certification.

Sound like truth?

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"The food pyramid is solely based on which industry gives the most money back to the bureaucrats."

Wait. You mean Cheerios really aren't healthier than eggs?

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Re Milk: I've been doing the low carb thing for most of a year (had good results on Atkins-ish diet). I'm pretty well informed about the benfits of avoiding refined carbs in excess. A current msytery I'm researching is that I can seem to overeat (by several hundred calories a day) and don't seem to gain any weight. It's harder to get fat by eating mostly fat, most sources agree. But 20% caloric surplus??? Anyway, I found this curious paper which covers a mice study. If I understand it correctly, it is saying that there is a substance in whole milk that, when combined with high fat and overfeeding, promotes brown adipose tissue which increases fat metabolism.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8704458/

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My experience is that you can lose weight on either a low-carb (Atkins, Keto) diet or a low-fat diet. Specifically, meals that contain lots of fat and carb in the same meal will cause weight gain whereas eating them separately, less so. Lots of our favorite things have too much of both -- pizza or fettucine Alfredo, for instance. It's not that you can't ever eat those things, despite what the advocates say, you just have to cut it way back. Maybe one meal a week you can splurge and be bad.

My experience only, YMMV...

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Interesting info regarding the milk substance (enzyme maybe?). I started sipping chocolate milk every day when I started getting lactose intolerance. I still love the stuff just like I did as a kid; now I'm drinking 2 liters(quarts) of 2% m.f. chocolate milk every day! I was wondering where that extra 1000+ clories a day was going, maybe there is some truth in the fat metabolism theory.

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I agree... but 'milk does a body good' was a really fun campaign (I'm guessing that you're Canadian!)

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Prevention and cheap repurposed drugs ain't making no money for big daddy pharma. Big daddy needs mo' money

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Jul 27, 2023·edited Jul 27, 2023

Dirt-cheap D-vit with an excellent safety profile is a notable case in point ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

🗨 Addressing the widespread deficiency in 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels is crucial to combating not only COVID-19 but also other illnesses related to immune system function.

Vitamin D: Everything You Need to Know is an illuminating read, if at times a challenge to waddle through due to insane volumes of info tightly packed 😇 --> 🔥brownstone.org/articles/vitamin-d-everything-you-need-to-know

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Due to EUA of vaccines, I simply said no.

I adopted Zelenko's protocol in April 2020:

5,000 D

Quercetin

Zinc

1,000 C

Multivitamin

Every morning .

Not A sniffle since.

In an unscientific way,

I attribute to the D & Quercetin

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Ditto👍

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Eat liver (cow, pig, cod, chicken) two-three times per month and you've covered your RDI of A, B12 and D.

Liver is such a good food-supply of nutrients there's a risk of toxicity if you eat it too much too often. If I remember, a 100gram serving of cow's liver is more than 3 000% your RDI of B12 (but don't buy my word as gospel, this is from memory - not "fact-checked" as the hepcats say!).

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Jul 27, 2023·edited Jul 27, 2023

Nope, it's not feasible to get adequate amounts of D-vit with food & sun, not even in low latitudes—not with our modern lifestyles 🙂 Not to start about bonkers RDI guidelines which are based on endocrine function alone (and don't take into account auto- & paracrine signalling).

You could do worse than give the linked Brownstone treatise a go, to keep abreast of contemporary science (the true small-s kind, w/o ™) 😉

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Thanks for the link. Great information in that article.

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💬 what if there was a drug that was affordable, widely available, had NO adverse side effects, actually prevented disease, and had numerous other life benefits to boot?

D-vit fits our baddest cat's description ↑↑ to a tee. Except it's not technically a drug but rather an innocuous nutrition supplement 🙂

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It's technically a hormone! It's also one of several critical substances the rely on cholesterol as an upstream material for their synthesis, and thus one of many disrupted when someone takes a statin. The more you know....

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Jul 27, 2023·edited Jul 27, 2023

You're right, a hormone—but *not* only, far from it 🙂

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Would not call it an innocuous supplement/hormone. High doses of vitD supplementation are showing significant long term health issues in latest research.

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High doses of most fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E and IIRC K) can be problematic. Water soluble vitamins (B and C primarily) are easily excreted if taken in excess. Ever wonder why your pee turns yellow and smells like a vitamin pill, when you take a B supplement? Yellow color due to B-2 (riboflavin), odor due to B-1 (thiamine). Passed through the system harmlessly and unchanged.

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I take no supplements, but yes, as someone who composts all my "waste" (excess nutrients), I'm familiar with impact of my diet and my plants and animals' diets on my piss color, smell, and taste. :-D

Agreed, fat-soluble vitamins and in this case hormones tend to build up throughout the body.

In this case though, when I say high doses, I mean what has for whatever reason, become the standard daily vit D dose recommended by most doctors and nutritionists: 4000 IU.

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Interesting 🤔 What's 'high dose', specifically? What issues, specifically?

It would be real helpful if you could point at the referenced 'latest research' 🙂

PS Can't shake off my somewhat cynical suspicion it might be akin to notorious hcq clinical trials better described as hatchet job 😳

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4000 IU daily. Specifically, high correlation to lymphoma and other lymph-node malfunction. Devil's always in the details and the beginning state of the physiology of the host...so take it with grains of salt. If I can find the reference doc, I will.

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Flu vaccines, pushed hard by the federal and state governments, and dispensed "free", but actually paid for by the taxpayer, turned out to be the Pot o' Gold at the end of the Rainbow, guarded by the Goose who lays the Golden Eggs for Big Pharma. They are clearly and unequivocally addicted to this.

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Soon to be mRNA reformulated. Going from useless and dangerous to lethal.

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But not to worry. They've been tested against, well, against other similar vaccines. No need for those silly double blind placebo controlled trials.

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Nothing from the government is free. The government is an economic parasite. The cost of everything it does is borne by its victims, I mean tax payers.

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They're gonna keep coming!

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Preach it Gato! I have witnessed this in my own life. My wife healed her gut through her diet when pills and surgery were the only options given to us by her doctors.

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What was her ailment and what diet did she follow? I have gut issues myself (hiatal hernia and gerd) and I’m trying fermented foods plus I make kefir hoping this will give me long lasting relief. I take pills as well. Thank you.

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Hi Dave, my wife had GERD as well. She followed a diet called the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD). As the name implies, it is a diet that is strict with all types of sugars, and grains. I want to also note that my wife noticed that she was sensitive to gluten containing foods which lead her to this diet in particular. Your body is different and you may find a different diet works for you, but minimizing processed foods, being aware of foods that aggravate your gut, stopping eating several hours before bed, and supplementing you diet are great places to start. I also recommend checking to make sure your fermented foods (like kefir) are fully fermented to minimize sugar intake. I will say, sticking with this kind of diet takes discipline, but you have got this. You won't regret anything you do to improve your health! I hope that helps.

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Thanks Matt. How would I check to see if a food was fully fermented?

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Check the label and make sure there is very little to no sugar. It is the sugar that ferments so once it is gone fermentation stops.

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If you haven't urinated in your closet or some other unusual behavior, this is an indication that (A) your food (beverage more likely) is not fermented and/or (B) you have not consumed sufficient quantity.

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This doc Sabine Hazan has been outspoken about the microbiome damage that's being done by jabs and other toxins we're surrounded by. Worth following imo.

https://www.amazon.com/Lets-Talk-Shit-Digestion-Transplants/dp/0578684705

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Related: A recently published study by South Korean researchers addressed the topic of the anti-parasitic drug fenbendazole as a potential cure for cancer.

What an exciting topic!

But when you dig into the study details, you will be sadly disappointed -- but not surprised -- to learn that the researchers spent a lot of time and money to discover whether the South Korean cancer patients had gotten their "disinformation" about fenbendazole from youtube or television or some other online source.

Zero dollars were spent to research whether the inexpensive veterinarian drug actually WAS a cure for cancer!

(BTW, there is evidence that the drug may actually cure some cancers. Do your research.)

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I saw that study and was horrified that it spent more time calling people gullible fools than seeing if it actually worked. They made zero effort to check if it actually helped people. Mind boggling.

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Jul 27, 2023·edited Jul 27, 2023

More than "some."

https://fenbendazole.substack.com/

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Jul 27, 2023·edited Jul 27, 2023

There is a human version, people are turning to the dog version to treat themselves. I don't think Joe Tippens is "disinformation."

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The human version (mebendazole) costs about $500 per pill. Per pill.

So the Big Pharma bastards are even horning in on fenbendazole, and I understand that at least one pharma giant has expressed interest in buying one of the rare Indian manufacturing plants that makes ivermectin. (Sorry, I can't locate those details offhand. )

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i was only saying today

doctors treat symptoms not root causes

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Look no further than the hospital to know that. If you get pain while peeing they give you flow max, if you have trouble pooping they give you miralax. Any side effects from those drugs and you need other meds to counter those meds.

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Wonder what the dietary departments have been infecting/injecting into those meals???

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Yeah, but every time I visit my GP she asks have i thought about diet and exercise! I usually have fun and ask “no, tell me more”

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The "diet" part would be ... interesting ... to hear about. I bet it would translate into a low-fat diet of some sort. :/

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It's bad for business if they do otherwise.

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"this same mediterranean diet has long been associated with better heart health as well."

Went to your link about the Mediterranean diet. A book written in 2001. In the time of Ancel Keys.

Better you should reference the work of Nina Teicholz, The Big Fat Surprise. Here's how the Mediterranean diet became the healthy one. A) Ancel Keys was determined to show that saturated fat caused heart disease. He famously did a scatter plot of diet percentage of saturated fat versus heart disease percentage and got one of those perfect correlations that data science types LIKE YOU know indicates chart crime. The chart crime: the Masai, with 69% of calories from saturated fat had no heart disease and were discarded as outliers. B) Keyes surveyed people in Crete to determine why they had a low rate of heart disease and found that they ate basically no meat. What Teichholz found: he surveyed them DURING GREEK LENT and extrapolated that diet to the rest of the year, when they ate plenty of meat and butter. C) Keys suggested the low-saturated fat Mediterranean diet prevented heart disease. D) Olive oil producers stepped up a marketing campaign. Many Northern European academics got sponsored trips to the sunny Mediterranean in the middle of the winter to attend conferences presenting papers on the health benefits of EVOO (full disclosure: I use it all the time). Teichholz goes back to the Odyssey to suggest Ancient Greeks may only have used the oil as chrism, not food.

Thus was the Mediterranean diet "scientifically" established as the way to prevent heart disease. My guess: hard exercise in Crete in a pre-oil-age society out in the sun making vitamin D is the advantage. It was never saturated fat. It was not the Mediterranean diet.

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Ancel Keyes is the Michael Mann (cThe Hockey Stick chart) of nutrition. Not just bad science but fraudulent science.

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I went down the low carb rabbit hole about 12 years ago. Nina's book is great, and also Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories," "Why We Get Fat" and his sugar book as well. The movie "Fat Head" by Tom Naughton is also highly recommended.

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Taubes followed up the Atkins ideas and pushed them in the NYTimes, before that paper was entirely Team Pharma. We all owe him a debt.

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I see the same thing now with pets. Overvaccinating is causing seizures. Yet they go to the vet and get drugs that leave the dog barely functioning. Diet and homeopathy can help, but it's tough to break that pill mentality.

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I stopped getting my cats routinely vaccinated, other than their kitten shots, years ago. Most of them have lived to 14-15 years old with few or no health problems. One made it to 19.

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My cat made it to 21. Kitten shots only.

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Multiple cats that lived 17+ years without vaccinations. Keep cats indoors (particularly in urban areas) and feed them high quality food and they stay healthy. Recently, a local rescue/shelter denied our application to adopt a cat after checking with our vet and finding out that although we did have routine wellness visits we did not vax our pets.

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Wow... so the shelter would rather have a cat live a life of confined misery than to let it live with you, This vax stuff just gets stupider and stupider.

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To be fair...they are a no-kill rescue that saves as many cats as they can from being euthanized at local shelters. They have a facility where many cats can roam free (indoors) as well as a network of fosters to care for cats that need ongoing medical care.

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