Wow! We’ll said. My mind has been cracking now and then from the utter madness of Covid crazy around me. Now that the ‘crisis’ seems to be receding no-one says a peep about it. They just go on about their lives as if the threats of me being fired, the restrictions me and my family were placed under never existed?!?!? Not one shred of con…
Wow! We’ll said. My mind has been cracking now and then from the utter madness of Covid crazy around me. Now that the ‘crisis’ seems to be receding no-one says a peep about it. They just go on about their lives as if the threats of me being fired, the restrictions me and my family were placed under never existed?!?!? Not one shred of concern, not one apology. All’s good?!?!? I’ve been stunned at the people close to me who I respected fell for this insanity hook, lime and sinker. They would have reported me to the authorities. In fact one did report my anger on social media about the restrictions, where I never mentioned my employer by name, but brought it to the attention of my team leader, who brought it to the attention of Management and forced me to delete the post. My career, what’s left of it is done at work. I’m sure I’m effectively blacklisted. I’m off FB for life at this point and I will never trust anyone from work as long as I live. I will never be the same after being treated like a dangerous leper by almost everyone. It’s deeply wounded me in relationships. Thanks be to God above for that 15% of my friends who stood with me. I’d never had made it out in jabbed. 🙏🏻
Even though I presumably never met you, I was completely duped by the censorship and propaganda.
Wore the mask, got five shots, and although I never outright condemned any one else’s choice, inside I had an arrogant disapproval of the “crazy antivaxers and antimaskers”. It probably leaked out on occasion and I’ve apologized to those in my circle who had a different opinion and turned out to be right.
Probably one saving grace for me is that once I’m presented with contrary evidence, I’m willing to change my mind. Learning I’m wrong is something I relish, because that’s how I learn. Unfortunately the censorship/propaganda efforts were comprehensive and effective.
Now the people who still do nothing but stonewall, gaslight, and justify their foolishness, now that accurate information is widely available... well maybe they’re just crappy human beings.
Well said Art. Apology accepted, even though you addressed it to Ross. Your "saving grace" is probably the most important intellectual trait one can have.
Unusual characteristic, changing your mind in response to contradictory evidence (if strong enough, one piece of evidence can invalidate tracts of lies).
My PhD biologist sister in Australia, faced as she was with reams of information contradicting the narrative, including several peer reviewed journal articles, had no way out, so I thought.
Three days went by and no response. “Well?” I demanded.
Her reply? “It’s easy to generate fake documents these days”.
She found a way out. Deny the existence of the evidence that contradicted her narrative (she owned it by then).
Rather than trust her brother who she knew had been successful in corporate R&D and then in private biotechnology companies, in this field of respiratory diseases, or believe her government, chose to tell herself & others that “I’d lost my mind, taken by aliens, whatever”, so that she could discount to zero anything I told her.
I used to hold her up as a paragon of tough logic and distain for bossy authority.
Your response is beautifully honest and one I only wish more people could make, because I know they want to. So what was it? I’m really interested to know what the turning point for you was. Was it sudden or just an accumulation of ‘this doesn’t seem right’?
You hit the nail on the head that most do not want to hear. They are just crappy human beings. And we know who they are. If they weren't we would see lots of apologies (sincere ones), corrections, punishments, what have you. Instead we see memory holing, denials and ignoring the whole thing. That defines crappy human beings. I have completely revised the list of those to whom I will pay the least attention...for the better in every way.
With your background as a previous arrogant “crappy human being”, I’m curious what you were watching/listening to that convinced you to take five shots? Most importantly, how are you contributing to the deprogramming of your family and friends who also are still arrogant “crappy human beings”? We beg you here, please use your background for the greater good of all.
Amen. You are describing much of what I experienced. Just throw in the death of a loved one to the vaccine and terrible medical neglect and malfeasance.
Allegedly, some scruffy dude while having spikes driven through his hands and feet, into a wood cross spoke “forgive them father. They know not what they do.”
Someone knew. But the followers/sheep did not. Still don't, as far as I can tell. I come here so I can talk to people about this stuff - because I can't talk about this to anyone in person. Yes, I can say a word here, there - but - here - people know stuff, I learn stuff, I'm allowed to debate stuff and agree and disagree. Very different out in the "real world," now. Father, forgive them. They know not what they do. I say it almost daily.
Some spiked guy is a compelling image! But we can’t dare think that Mr Science was successful in making his Faucian deal with the Presidency, to spike the global masses, making us all Jesus on earth!
My Lord! He and others may be using all this to pass the collection plate. And we dare not refer to Trump in vane (he knows better than poor, he has God like status, due life forever in the Oval Office).
America may aspire to creating a heaven on earth. May we learn we need not resurrect false Gods.
Ross, I'm lucky that I was retired from public transit service for a few years before the COVID BS hit. I'll be 72, with COPD/Emphysema, and will NEVER let myself be jabbed with that poison. I KNOW people that have been affected by it, and regret ever having it. Had C19 and treated it with the FLCCC protocol that includes both HCQ and Ivermectin. Still playing drums, and doing birds photography. Lost so many "friends" because I dared to challenge the "lets ALL get vaxxed" pressure. Called anti-vaxxer, racist, white supremacist, facist, by many. You have no idea how many times I've bit my tongue to not say: "I told you so." Just like you, not a single apology or a commentary about all that has been revealed about the shots. I just live my life happily, and those who insulted me can go "F" themselves and deal with the effects of the shots.
Ah, Rafael. A beautiful, dear friend of mine with an autoimmune disorder - listened to her doctor (people with autoimmune were especially "vulnerable," and commanded to take the shots. My husband also submitted, it seemed to make sense at the time to him, even though I thought the shots would be worse for the autoimmune sufferers). She was a lovely, trusting soul who had no reason to distrust. She is now dead with a breast cancer that took a few months from discovery to death. "I told you so," is too painful to deliver when the baby is born 10 weeks early, another's heart needs an ablation, another is suffering a neurological disorder so bad she can no longer drive, or surgery for varicose veins (and these are the small ones). All I can say is "please stop, don't take any more!"
Even though I have the documentation to prove any of these SFX, I can't even tell them why, it's too painful, and too close to "I told you so."
I have too many loved ones who took it. Now, I get to watch them suffer & die, and count the statistics of how many people I know are suffering. (from my notes: easily 30 people in my personal circles with SFX, some severe, & 10 deaths within 2 degrees of separation - but hard to ascertain causality.)
I am reluctant to contact friends & family who I believe have taken it. I feel like something has been removed from them - soul, empathy - something. I can't put my finger on it - but - the "go eff themselves" is a very real force. Plus - I frequently hear their struggles, their suffering, and my tongue is bloody and bruised from biting it.
Does it make me a lesser person to just release the ones I love into the pits of hell?
The very same people I hold the "F" themselves for are those who I KNOW would have had no problem at all of laughing or celebrate my demise because of C19 and me not having had the shot. The only ones I hold compassion for are those who believed it was the best course of action for themselves, but, unlike way too many others, didn't make it their business to demonize those who didn't. The vast majority on the former made it a point to make it known they were part of the "educated" class (wore their being jabbed as a trophy) unlike the unvaxxed, ignorant "rubes", who were labeled as "murderers", who should have been vaxxed by force or removed from the rest of society.
It always reminded me of this: Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
Mind you, I'm NOT a religious person. Don't belong to any organized religion.
Yes, those people are gone. There were a few who asked me if I wanted to kill Grandma - but they were doing so in a kindly fashion (they believed).
But the WHOLE SOCIETY locked me out, which is why I responded to your post. It's difficult not to blame the little guy for going along with that debacle. While I have freedoms now, it's only a matter of time before the "next wave" or crisis (Bill Gates came to Australia to warn us it was coming), and here we go again.
Do not forget. Still working on how to forgive, not sure I can.
You need to cut those abusers out of your life. Call them up and say, "I have NOT forgotten your toxic, abusive behavior. You have not apologized because you are not sorry. Therefore, I insist you continue to stay away from me. You are no longer my friend. Your hateful, brutal personality is the real disease. I will NOT help or pity you if you develop health problems. Ask you precious government for help. Do NOT contact me again ever. Good bye!"
We actually moved halfway across the country to get away from one of the states that locked down the hardest. It was such a relief to land somewhere where only a few people are masked, and nobody cares about it. Even my new doctors don't ask if I got the vax.
Well that strikes a chord with me. I just... can't talk about all of /this/ that is going on with the people in my house. I hide it. My worries, my concerns for the people around me at work. William Makis' substack has been documenting deaths by demographics, and I'm so worried about a lot of the folks around me.
Sometimes reading things here makes me feel like I'm in an echo chamber, and I worry about that, too, but then I realise that it is because of communities here that I have been able to "see" everything that has happened before it happened.
Thanks for the confirmation: " ‘crisis’ seems to be receding no-one says a peep about it" - JUST what I have seen for about the last 8 months in my place of employment (e.g. the temperature sign in sheets disappeared with out a "peep"). I get a once monthly session with top management, and in sort of an exception proves the rule way, just this week at the end there was some hurried whispering - literally whispering - about "revising mask policies" and such. A bit worrisome.
What I kept hearing, then and now from those who did do it, was ‘what’s the big deal, it’s for your health, after all!’ And you’re right, that’s all the thought they gave it before moving on. Except for pointing out that they are the good guys here. 😖
Wow! We’ll said. My mind has been cracking now and then from the utter madness of Covid crazy around me. Now that the ‘crisis’ seems to be receding no-one says a peep about it. They just go on about their lives as if the threats of me being fired, the restrictions me and my family were placed under never existed?!?!? Not one shred of concern, not one apology. All’s good?!?!? I’ve been stunned at the people close to me who I respected fell for this insanity hook, lime and sinker. They would have reported me to the authorities. In fact one did report my anger on social media about the restrictions, where I never mentioned my employer by name, but brought it to the attention of my team leader, who brought it to the attention of Management and forced me to delete the post. My career, what’s left of it is done at work. I’m sure I’m effectively blacklisted. I’m off FB for life at this point and I will never trust anyone from work as long as I live. I will never be the same after being treated like a dangerous leper by almost everyone. It’s deeply wounded me in relationships. Thanks be to God above for that 15% of my friends who stood with me. I’d never had made it out in jabbed. 🙏🏻
Ross, I do apologize.
Even though I presumably never met you, I was completely duped by the censorship and propaganda.
Wore the mask, got five shots, and although I never outright condemned any one else’s choice, inside I had an arrogant disapproval of the “crazy antivaxers and antimaskers”. It probably leaked out on occasion and I’ve apologized to those in my circle who had a different opinion and turned out to be right.
Probably one saving grace for me is that once I’m presented with contrary evidence, I’m willing to change my mind. Learning I’m wrong is something I relish, because that’s how I learn. Unfortunately the censorship/propaganda efforts were comprehensive and effective.
Now the people who still do nothing but stonewall, gaslight, and justify their foolishness, now that accurate information is widely available... well maybe they’re just crappy human beings.
I admire this beyond belief. Thank you. You are a very important part of assuring this never happens again.
Again thank you for your honesty and speaking up.
Means a lot to folks like us who were either forced to take it on the chin or did at their own volition.
Cheers!
Well said Art. Apology accepted, even though you addressed it to Ross. Your "saving grace" is probably the most important intellectual trait one can have.
Wow! So you eventually woke up and saw the sham for what it was! After five shots! What happened to shift your mindset?
Art, welcome!
Unusual characteristic, changing your mind in response to contradictory evidence (if strong enough, one piece of evidence can invalidate tracts of lies).
My PhD biologist sister in Australia, faced as she was with reams of information contradicting the narrative, including several peer reviewed journal articles, had no way out, so I thought.
Three days went by and no response. “Well?” I demanded.
Her reply? “It’s easy to generate fake documents these days”.
She found a way out. Deny the existence of the evidence that contradicted her narrative (she owned it by then).
Rather than trust her brother who she knew had been successful in corporate R&D and then in private biotechnology companies, in this field of respiratory diseases, or believe her government, chose to tell herself & others that “I’d lost my mind, taken by aliens, whatever”, so that she could discount to zero anything I told her.
I used to hold her up as a paragon of tough logic and distain for bossy authority.
She’s been taken by aliens!!
We’ve not been in touch since (almost 2.5 years).
Your response is beautifully honest and one I only wish more people could make, because I know they want to. So what was it? I’m really interested to know what the turning point for you was. Was it sudden or just an accumulation of ‘this doesn’t seem right’?
You hit the nail on the head that most do not want to hear. They are just crappy human beings. And we know who they are. If they weren't we would see lots of apologies (sincere ones), corrections, punishments, what have you. Instead we see memory holing, denials and ignoring the whole thing. That defines crappy human beings. I have completely revised the list of those to whom I will pay the least attention...for the better in every way.
With your background as a previous arrogant “crappy human being”, I’m curious what you were watching/listening to that convinced you to take five shots? Most importantly, how are you contributing to the deprogramming of your family and friends who also are still arrogant “crappy human beings”? We beg you here, please use your background for the greater good of all.
Amen. You are describing much of what I experienced. Just throw in the death of a loved one to the vaccine and terrible medical neglect and malfeasance.
Aww, I’m so very sorry you went through that horrible experience. My sincere condolences. God bless you dear lady. 😢
oh goodness Laura - I too have experienced the same, not once, but twice! It is beyond comprehension at times.
Allegedly, some scruffy dude while having spikes driven through his hands and feet, into a wood cross spoke “forgive them father. They know not what they do.”
Truly, His love was far above my pathetic level. God help us all! Such dark times.
I'll have to disagree on this one. They KNEW exactly what they were doing, and HID, CENSORED, and DEMONIZED any kind of effort to go against it.
Someone knew. But the followers/sheep did not. Still don't, as far as I can tell. I come here so I can talk to people about this stuff - because I can't talk about this to anyone in person. Yes, I can say a word here, there - but - here - people know stuff, I learn stuff, I'm allowed to debate stuff and agree and disagree. Very different out in the "real world," now. Father, forgive them. They know not what they do. I say it almost daily.
Some spiked guy is a compelling image! But we can’t dare think that Mr Science was successful in making his Faucian deal with the Presidency, to spike the global masses, making us all Jesus on earth!
My Lord! He and others may be using all this to pass the collection plate. And we dare not refer to Trump in vane (he knows better than poor, he has God like status, due life forever in the Oval Office).
America may aspire to creating a heaven on earth. May we learn we need not resurrect false Gods.
All in good spirit - be well and prosper.
🙏🏻
Ross, I'm lucky that I was retired from public transit service for a few years before the COVID BS hit. I'll be 72, with COPD/Emphysema, and will NEVER let myself be jabbed with that poison. I KNOW people that have been affected by it, and regret ever having it. Had C19 and treated it with the FLCCC protocol that includes both HCQ and Ivermectin. Still playing drums, and doing birds photography. Lost so many "friends" because I dared to challenge the "lets ALL get vaxxed" pressure. Called anti-vaxxer, racist, white supremacist, facist, by many. You have no idea how many times I've bit my tongue to not say: "I told you so." Just like you, not a single apology or a commentary about all that has been revealed about the shots. I just live my life happily, and those who insulted me can go "F" themselves and deal with the effects of the shots.
Live long and prosper.
Ah, Rafael. A beautiful, dear friend of mine with an autoimmune disorder - listened to her doctor (people with autoimmune were especially "vulnerable," and commanded to take the shots. My husband also submitted, it seemed to make sense at the time to him, even though I thought the shots would be worse for the autoimmune sufferers). She was a lovely, trusting soul who had no reason to distrust. She is now dead with a breast cancer that took a few months from discovery to death. "I told you so," is too painful to deliver when the baby is born 10 weeks early, another's heart needs an ablation, another is suffering a neurological disorder so bad she can no longer drive, or surgery for varicose veins (and these are the small ones). All I can say is "please stop, don't take any more!"
Even though I have the documentation to prove any of these SFX, I can't even tell them why, it's too painful, and too close to "I told you so."
Saying "I told you so" to people like those would be cruel.
I struggle with "Go eff themselves,"
I have too many loved ones who took it. Now, I get to watch them suffer & die, and count the statistics of how many people I know are suffering. (from my notes: easily 30 people in my personal circles with SFX, some severe, & 10 deaths within 2 degrees of separation - but hard to ascertain causality.)
I am reluctant to contact friends & family who I believe have taken it. I feel like something has been removed from them - soul, empathy - something. I can't put my finger on it - but - the "go eff themselves" is a very real force. Plus - I frequently hear their struggles, their suffering, and my tongue is bloody and bruised from biting it.
Does it make me a lesser person to just release the ones I love into the pits of hell?
The very same people I hold the "F" themselves for are those who I KNOW would have had no problem at all of laughing or celebrate my demise because of C19 and me not having had the shot. The only ones I hold compassion for are those who believed it was the best course of action for themselves, but, unlike way too many others, didn't make it their business to demonize those who didn't. The vast majority on the former made it a point to make it known they were part of the "educated" class (wore their being jabbed as a trophy) unlike the unvaxxed, ignorant "rubes", who were labeled as "murderers", who should have been vaxxed by force or removed from the rest of society.
It always reminded me of this: Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
Mind you, I'm NOT a religious person. Don't belong to any organized religion.
Yes, those people are gone. There were a few who asked me if I wanted to kill Grandma - but they were doing so in a kindly fashion (they believed).
But the WHOLE SOCIETY locked me out, which is why I responded to your post. It's difficult not to blame the little guy for going along with that debacle. While I have freedoms now, it's only a matter of time before the "next wave" or crisis (Bill Gates came to Australia to warn us it was coming), and here we go again.
Do not forget. Still working on how to forgive, not sure I can.
You need to cut those abusers out of your life. Call them up and say, "I have NOT forgotten your toxic, abusive behavior. You have not apologized because you are not sorry. Therefore, I insist you continue to stay away from me. You are no longer my friend. Your hateful, brutal personality is the real disease. I will NOT help or pity you if you develop health problems. Ask you precious government for help. Do NOT contact me again ever. Good bye!"
While I haven’t used those words those are my actions. I am distancing myself from many people
We actually moved halfway across the country to get away from one of the states that locked down the hardest. It was such a relief to land somewhere where only a few people are masked, and nobody cares about it. Even my new doctors don't ask if I got the vax.
I had the same experience, Ross!
One upside is that I've made new friends in the many protests I've gone to and still join.
Just keep speaking the truth no matter what. The truth kills woke dead.
You have lots of friends. Right here.
Thanks Norma. I just realised why I come here. It's the only place I can speak freely.
Well that strikes a chord with me. I just... can't talk about all of /this/ that is going on with the people in my house. I hide it. My worries, my concerns for the people around me at work. William Makis' substack has been documenting deaths by demographics, and I'm so worried about a lot of the folks around me.
Sometimes reading things here makes me feel like I'm in an echo chamber, and I worry about that, too, but then I realise that it is because of communities here that I have been able to "see" everything that has happened before it happened.
Thanks for the confirmation: " ‘crisis’ seems to be receding no-one says a peep about it" - JUST what I have seen for about the last 8 months in my place of employment (e.g. the temperature sign in sheets disappeared with out a "peep"). I get a once monthly session with top management, and in sort of an exception proves the rule way, just this week at the end there was some hurried whispering - literally whispering - about "revising mask policies" and such. A bit worrisome.
What I kept hearing, then and now from those who did do it, was ‘what’s the big deal, it’s for your health, after all!’ And you’re right, that’s all the thought they gave it before moving on. Except for pointing out that they are the good guys here. 😖