I disagree about "anti-psychiatry" - we don't state that "it's okay to be psychopath" - anti-psychiatry is about denying the DSM labels and the resulting destructive treatments. Psychiatry is a weapon used to cripple (and make money from) the poor, the struggling, the Other. If people are harming people - you don't need a diagnosis or la…
I disagree about "anti-psychiatry" - we don't state that "it's okay to be psychopath" - anti-psychiatry is about denying the DSM labels and the resulting destructive treatments. Psychiatry is a weapon used to cripple (and make money from) the poor, the struggling, the Other. If people are harming people - you don't need a diagnosis or label for that. It's a crime.
(note: psychiatry ***is*** harming people, and this latest COVIDian assault is just an extension of the arm of psychiatry. Who created the gas ovens in Germany? "We know your needs better than you do." is the mantra of psychiatry - very much like what we've been told about COVID.)
"Anti-psychiatry" has nothing to do with the convenient deinstitutionalisation of inmates - that was a capitalist move. Cheaper to drug them and keep them at home.
More, I blame corporate culture (there was a Canadian film, 2003, called "The Corporation,") wherein corporations are not liable for their individual actions. They are protected from that liability by the Corporation, and to rise in this environment, sociopathy and psychopathy is rewarded. The sociopaths and psychopaths rise to the top of the Corporation. How many corporate crimes have resulted in punishment? Fines are just a cost of doing business.
This rewards the sociopaths and psychopaths - and so they accelerate their crimes.
It was actually being a part of anti-psychiatry which enabled me to see through the bs that the COVIDians were presenting. Same tactics, same gaslighting.
I'm going on anti-psychiatry in my nation, should have pointed that out maybe.
Here, that idea is completely enmeshed with the wokest of the woke.
Thankfully, our psychiatric sector is and has been operating on two basic principles for the last decade now, while still using ICD/DSM-labels for various reasons (many to do with bureaucracy):
1) Is the person a proven danger to others?
2) Is the person a proven danger to themselves?
Those two are, while not formally written down or recognised, the basis for what if any treatment is to be mandated (KBT being the go-to method right now). Otherwise any contact with psychologists, therapists or psychiatrists is voluntary.
I can't see you and @JC disagreed in substance—more like a mismatch in what the anti-psychiatry appellation means to each. Just as you say, the eternal confusion over terms; your implied doesn't equal the other guy's 🙂
Peter Gotzsche is a Dane, he's kinda in this camp. Same with Olga Runciman. We have people who are battling the dangers of psychiatry on all continents. I'm in Australia (though have also experienced the US). But unless you are exposed to the history, then it's something new.
Has "antipsychiatry" been coopted by the Woke? "You can't diagnose me! I was BORN this way!"
More like "How dare you claim to be ableto decidewhat's normal?! Now make with the ADD+ diagnoses and Ritaline and Benzo-prescriptions so I can go on permanent lifelong welfare, all inclusive like!"
I disagree about "anti-psychiatry" - we don't state that "it's okay to be psychopath" - anti-psychiatry is about denying the DSM labels and the resulting destructive treatments. Psychiatry is a weapon used to cripple (and make money from) the poor, the struggling, the Other. If people are harming people - you don't need a diagnosis or label for that. It's a crime.
(note: psychiatry ***is*** harming people, and this latest COVIDian assault is just an extension of the arm of psychiatry. Who created the gas ovens in Germany? "We know your needs better than you do." is the mantra of psychiatry - very much like what we've been told about COVID.)
"Anti-psychiatry" has nothing to do with the convenient deinstitutionalisation of inmates - that was a capitalist move. Cheaper to drug them and keep them at home.
More, I blame corporate culture (there was a Canadian film, 2003, called "The Corporation,") wherein corporations are not liable for their individual actions. They are protected from that liability by the Corporation, and to rise in this environment, sociopathy and psychopathy is rewarded. The sociopaths and psychopaths rise to the top of the Corporation. How many corporate crimes have resulted in punishment? Fines are just a cost of doing business.
This rewards the sociopaths and psychopaths - and so they accelerate their crimes.
It was actually being a part of anti-psychiatry which enabled me to see through the bs that the COVIDians were presenting. Same tactics, same gaslighting.
I'm going on anti-psychiatry in my nation, should have pointed that out maybe.
Here, that idea is completely enmeshed with the wokest of the woke.
Thankfully, our psychiatric sector is and has been operating on two basic principles for the last decade now, while still using ICD/DSM-labels for various reasons (many to do with bureaucracy):
1) Is the person a proven danger to others?
2) Is the person a proven danger to themselves?
Those two are, while not formally written down or recognised, the basis for what if any treatment is to be mandated (KBT being the go-to method right now). Otherwise any contact with psychologists, therapists or psychiatrists is voluntary.
I'm not american, so hence the confusion caused.
I can't see you and @JC disagreed in substance—more like a mismatch in what the anti-psychiatry appellation means to each. Just as you say, the eternal confusion over terms; your implied doesn't equal the other guy's 🙂
Peter Gotzsche is a Dane, he's kinda in this camp. Same with Olga Runciman. We have people who are battling the dangers of psychiatry on all continents. I'm in Australia (though have also experienced the US). But unless you are exposed to the history, then it's something new.
Has "antipsychiatry" been coopted by the Woke? "You can't diagnose me! I was BORN this way!"
More like "How dare you claim to be ableto decidewhat's normal?! Now make with the ADD+ diagnoses and Ritaline and Benzo-prescriptions so I can go on permanent lifelong welfare, all inclusive like!"
I.e. entitlement-itis galore.
Outstanding point and question