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We passed that line in May 2020, AT THE VERY VERY LATEST.

Ironically, when you bring this up to 'normies', you hear the same thing as with VAERS -- "That data is all fake", to which I respond "Then how is the CDC monitoring adverse reactions?

You can find and play with the hard data here:

https://icandecide.org/v-safe-data/

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I had a cordial catch-up chat with my cousin last night. You guys will never know the self-control it took not to scream to the heavens when she did that "it would've been much more severe if [so and so] hadn't had the..." I said in my most reasonable, carefully modulated voice that that was a misapprehension. My cousin is double-boosted by now, and that didn't surprise me, but I had to grip myself by all four limbs when she said her first-grade age granddaughter got the vax.

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I understand totally. My younger sister is totally brainwashed, refuses to consider any glaring evidence and her children as well. My respect for her at an all time low. I wonder that even if one of them were harmed in an apparent manner would they still deny how it happened. There fear is so great.

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The worst part (IMO) is how the CDC sat on this data (and ignored VAERS) for months and months while telling the public it was 'safe and effective'. This is what I wrote about this story a couple months ago:

https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/the-cdc-falls-to-new-lows

.....a large chunk of these people were healthcare workers who were at the front of the line during the rollout. People who had been dealing with covid patients ON the frontline for nearly a year at this point, many of which already had acquired immunity.

Nearly 8% required medical care.

Is it any wonder that doctors and nurses balked at vaccine mandates? They had seen FIRST-HAND the effects of the jab — and then their jobs were threatened if they spoke out about what they saw OR refused to get the shot themselves! (I distinctly remember screaming into the void about this as it was happening!)

And the CDC has had this data the entire time, while calling it all ‘misinformation’ and relentlessly attacking anybody who dared bring it up. Through all the mandate discussion and mandate implementation, the CDC repeated “Safe and Effective” like a well-trained parrot.

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The CDC knew very well before they launched the jabs there were going to be horrible adverse reactions. There isn't one animal study over the past thirty years that had any success. The studies have all ended badly. This is why I take great exception with doctors and veterinarians rolling over for this absolute crap.

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And let us not forget: by the time the rollout of the "vaccinations" began, it was quite clear to a lot of us who had initially been concerned, that this was NOT the emergency they had earlier portrayed it to be.

There are a lot of "ifs," but IF we had reasonable agencies performing oversight and critically thinking leaders, don't you think this rollout would have been more cautious and not pushed so hard with the carrot and the stick -- as in, "let's just inject every single human on the planet with something experimental and see what happens, and if you think this is a dumb idea, then you're a selfish idiot."

And squelch and censor every single voice of dissent.

that, to me, is proof right there of malfeasance.

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In late 2020, I saw the FDA page on POTENTIAL mRNA side effects before it was memory holed. It was all there, including death.

They knew.

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Its located here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XTiL9rUpkg&t=9219s slow it WAAAAY down, as they hit this slide and then switch to the next in about 1/5 of a second.

And yes, note the date... Oct 22, 2020 - BEFORE the "vaccines" rolled out.

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Fuck yeah. What killed the ferrets?

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they sure did

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Yes, and do you remember how they tried to blame adverse reactions on "anti-vaxxers" who caused so much stress to the vax-lovers that it messed up their hearts?

If this were a real problem it would have been known long before covid and would be YET ANOTHER reason to not just jab everybody.

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I have a very good and long memory. Shit got real when they started jabbing as many as possible. Extra real when my loved ones fell for it, took the poison injections and -- yes -- blamed and hated on me for awhile.

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I want to know how we caused them stress when they wouldn't even speak to us OR they were the ones screaming in our faces. Doesn't that put the stress in our lives, not theirs?

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Exactly. All of this technology had been tried, tested in animals and failed miserably. No professional can claim that they didn't / couldn't know.

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if only all those health care workers who didn't want the shot had had the courage to walk away from their jobs, this would have been over a long time ago. the hospital system would have collapsed utterly with that many people walking off the job and they would have begged them to come back.

going through the courts is a much slower process.

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This would all have been over in May of 2020 if just 20% of the public refused to wear a mask.

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We're still dealing with the walkouts of doctors and nurses here in OR/WA, and from the look of the hospitalization utilization page, NY is having massive problems as well.

As far as I know, none of these states are considering hiring back fired personnel.

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160,000 nurses short. They have said. hell no, not me.

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I expect Oregon to get worse considering Tina Kotek's stance on masks/jabs - she required vax cards for anyone attending her election night party. So, as far as I'm concerned, the fight to keep my stubborn and in-denial Gen Z ("all my vaxxed friends are fine") kids off these damn shots is not over at all.

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It is OR/WA. They will never admit defeat. And ID will just keep on bulging with their citizen refugees.

Their voter rolls will be filled with only the dead, crazy blue and screaming "liberals" who are anything but. And...Brad "Little" Nazi will keep pandering to the blue areas of Idaho, like Ketchum and Eagle/Boise and keep on being bought and paid for by TPTWB.

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Yes. It shows how people will cowtow to fear and pressure, but can not bring themselves to rally against that pressure. Things have to be so egregious before the masses wake up, and then we finally move towards the tipping point needed to stop it.

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Problem is health care self selects for the humble and self effacing. Those who will put others before themselves no matter the circumstance.

There is a need for people like that, but this strike was directed through that inherent weakness.

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Have many doctors/nurses ever 'fessed up that treating Covid with R & R (i.e., Respirators and Remdesivir) contributed to or caused thousands upon thousands of deaths?

Very, very few.

And when they nixed efficacious alternative treatments, all their mistakes always went in the same direction.

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Too many people (including Dr.'s and nurses) were literally part of the "Corona Coronation" that once they were deemed "little king's/queen's" they were never going to look back.

Combine that with the "greater good"/"morality traps", etc. and you can see how easily people abandon ethics.

Gosh....I wonder how the Holocaust happened right under the eyes of the German people?

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Chris Bray wrote an awesome article about this the other day:

https://chrisbray.substack.com/p/play-long

Now: In the long exchange between Sam Harris and Bret Weinstein, as in the long exchange between mRNA vaccine promoters and mRNA vaccine skeptics, the Sam Harrises — performative “expert” cultural actors — were signaling status. They were saying [current high-status thing], the thing that was discussed approvingly in the New York Times and in government conference rooms. Their statements were aligned with cultural and political power, which made them important. They were lawn signing. “I support Current Thing.” They performed the right ritual.

The Bret Weinsteins, being scientists and non-performative experts of the I-know-actual-biology type, were talking about history and experience and their knowledge of previous vaccines, and about the science of vaccine development.

So the Bret Weinsteins warned about the possibility of antibody dependent enhancement, say for example, and the Sam Harrises didn’t have that in their script, so they were outraged by how irresponsible the Bret Weinsteins were being. It wasn’t [current thing]. The Huffington Post didn’t say to say that!

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This afternoon I listened to part of a BBC radio play about the rise of Hitler . Every time the Jews were mentioned as Hitler whipped up hatred for them and support for himself I couldn't help substituting " unjabbed" . I have seen how easily people can be turned against others. My perception will never be the same again..

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Well, before the shots were even available, remember all of these massive media campaigns singing praises of nursing staff? These are the people who normally stay up all night wiping poo and getting yelled at, so suddenly being the central heroes of an epic drama unfolding worldwide was too nice to put aside. Of course people are going to step up into the role that was sculpted for them to enjoy: the heroes of the savior vaccine.

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Great comment, Ryan! That's a bingo!

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maybe, just maybe you would like to look into that last questionable question, because it's a very interesting and extraordinarily complex topic.

If you would like to go at it whole hog, you could watch the ten hour documentary "Europa; The Last Battle" or the also long, but not quite as much, "The Greatest Story Never Told".

You can find the first at europathelastbattle.net and the second at thegreateststorynevertold.tv

If you want a sober version of why one might start wondering about it at all, perhaps you might read Ron Unz's blog about how he started to wonder himself, as an American Jew, he had never thought to before.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

But whatever you do, don't remain ignorant of how complex the question is, because it's a very unbecoming look on a substack reader, although still very common.

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"And when they nixed efficacious alternative treatments, all their mistakes always went in the same direction."

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Like the FBI "mistakes" this is how we know they weren't "mistakes" at all. Real mistakes would sometimes go against the narrative.

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They won't fess up on their own, because then they have to realize they most likely committed murder using the wrong treatment while willfully ignoring treatments that are proven to work.

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Yes, but this pandemic has highlighted that you can murder anyone you want and it ceases to be murder in the context of medical care.

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We saw firsthand what the shots were doing to people because they were made available first to hospital workers here, so you had hundreds and thousands of employees getting it day after day, and of course they'd be in a healthcare setting surrounded by experts when the adverse events hit. Then we'd get an email every so often: "Do not come to any vaccine appointments: we are stopping the vaccines until important questions are answered and we do not know if we will be starting them again – please stop calling us to ask for your vaccine!" Then after a few weeks they'd hesitantly start poisoning people again. Meanwhile the emergency rooms are fighting to keep people alive with VITT or deal with stroke / venous sinus thrombosis in young people – so these medical specialists were fully aware of what was happening and nevertheless went forward with it.

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And now only the compliant remain in many places.

Makes you wonder what they will ask those people to do next.

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can you present those e-mails as evidence? get copies of them to ron johnson and ron desantis?

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It's unfortunately not the US.

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Sat? Ignored? THEy ARE STILL SITTING ON THE DATA AND ARE STILL RECOMMENDING “VAX” AND BOOSTERS FOR 6 MONTH-OLDS WHO HAVE A 3/10,000% CHANCE OF DEATH FROM THIS SNAKE OIL

I wouldn’t let these motherfuckers lick the sweat off of my balls if they were dying of thirst.

Something must be done.

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yep, exactly. I am one of those doctors who said "no thanks". Realize I am a 30 yr military vet who always did my duty and stood up for the shot. But that when medicine was normal.. not insane like today. see more at bobfeldtman.substack.com

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It's been a source of agnst and anger in my home as my husband and I tried desperately to talk our Gen Z kids (18 & 20) off the toxic jabs. Fortunately, The 18 y.o. track athlete is not interested but the 20 y.o. college student made an appt at Walgreens and almost took the F***ng jab. To this day, neither one of the is CONVINCED about the dangers that I keep sharing via emails/texts. Why? Because their "friends are all fine". I'm so exhausted but this is the hill I'll die on. Keeping MY beloved and deeply misinformed (social media and the 24/7 CDC propaganda to blame) kids from harming themselves. My greatest worry now is a young niece who'll be moving from the FREE state of Florida back to Puerto Rico where the evil Dept of Health has included the C19 jabs as requirement for school attendance. Her babies (2 & 4) would need to get jabbed in order to attend pre-school. This is freaking CRIMINAL!! Yet NO ONE is standing up to fight back and have these jabs removed from the PVAC form. I pray for all of them and I'm very direct in educating all of them. She knows about the harms. I pray but also fear for ALL the young people of Puerto Rico. This is genocide, pure and simple.

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Weren't all their friends fine when they got covid?

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Well, the hard thing is that a number of people I do actually respect for their general intelligence and thoughtfulness continue to feel that getting vaxxed and boosted was a choice they do not regret. I don't argue with them, because it's done now and what use is it to them for me to be a crier of potential doom? I just do a lot of personal internal extremely earnest and persistent supplicating of the big Unknowable in the Somewhere.

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I have family too that are completely inside the bubble, lined their 3 yr old up a few weeks ago for this shot. I found out about it after the fact, what could I even say or do at that point? It's in the child now, the best hope is that she suffers no ill effects.

I curse the medical community for this, I'll never trust them again.

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Never.

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Oh lord, I can identify. It is probably just as well most of them passed well beyond this time. My mom would be glued to Fox and MSNBC and my sister would be taking her cues from NPR and her professional organizations.

If they were not dead, it likely would still be the same. Me and my son against the world.

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It is easier to convince a man of a lie, than it is to convince a man he has taken a stand that is based upon a lie. We see it every day

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my younger sister is the same way and she got very sick with Covid.

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I feel ya. Hubby's adult daughter who is vaxed boosted up the kazoo has covid. In talking with his also boosted niece she said she was so glad that her cousin was up to date on her vax. Rather than start releasing a string of curses I went upstairs and did chores. I'm sad to think what lies in store for these two who bought the lies hook, line, and sinker.

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As I said when the jabs started rolling out, the idea was for people to get jabs until they got covid anyway, then continue getting jabs they didn't need afterward. (Though it turns out that maybe getting the jabs mean you can't beat the virus the old-fashioned way)

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I think the program is to get jabs every two to three months until you die.

Oh yeah, and pay for the jabs out of pocket. They'll be $$$$, but if you don't get one, you'll die.

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I think, in regard to your last sentence, that we must try to maintain a certain strength-of-hope that the great majority of people will be mostly fine.

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With acceptance by the unharmed -jabbed, injectables will be endlessly accepted and society will continue on the path to segregation,restricting freedoms for all especially the noncompliant.

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Let's not get over-crazy about anything.

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I do at times, but other times my cynicism rears it's head.

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Most people do not deserve genuine and dreadful harm.

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They do if they make their children get it without doing research

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Mostly fine in what sense? That they won't die of things connected with the jab? They will, of course, eventually die of something. They won't be mostly fine, though, because they weren't mostly fine before all this. They were primed or had primed themselves for years to believe the sort of horse manure about other human beings and society that made them perfect targets for the sort of public health campaign and subsequent medical tyranny that this entire wicked business, going on three years now, has been. They are mostly fools.

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Reading the comments threads of a variety of Substacks leads one to observe that a very considerable number of people, regardless of where they land on this issue, believe things other rational human beings may well regard as foolish too.

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I'm sure that's true but what examples of this do you have in mind here?

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Ah, but it would've been so much worse without the jabs!

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Indeed!

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Emphasis on 'sinker'. This is what lies in store for most all of them sooner or later.

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Bless you

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"it would've been much more severe if [so and so] hadn't had the..."

Hold my beer.

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I got that from two of my docs a year ago. It was obvious that this was the narrative that they were told to spread. I can also understand their concerns about their careers, but it's time now to own up that horrendous mistakes were made, and deliberate lies were spread. Now, the CYA has started in a big way, since the lethal adverse effects are too numerous and awful to hide anymore.

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I feel that if they suddenly see what is truly happening the guilt will be too intense for many to bear. So they keep the blinders on. It is definitely a collective and divisive issue.

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And what's worse - there really isn't any way for those docs to "make it right", even if they really want to. They can stop promoting jabs, suggest alternate therapies, but they can't at this time fix what's broken in their affected patients. Can they tell patients that they are potentially damaged? - imagine the repercussions. They will have to say something like "long Covid". They are backed into a bleak corner.

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I don’t think it’s guilt, I think they’re petrified because what they did is criminal.

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Perhaps, but that shoe hasn't dropped yet.

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I just don't think they are capable of thinking other than in very narrow ways. They tested well in school. They ticked the right boxes. Look at the other absurd things they almost certainly believe about "society" and you will see how little capable they are of genuine reflection. Very few of them are worried about the criminality of their actions at all. Doctors, by and large, are some of the most truly sophomoric people I have ever met. The same is true, in different ways, with lawyers, scientists, and humanities professors. Their thinking is almost entirely conventional and narrow, even when they have high IQs.

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I'll hold your beer and your beer's beer. Go get "em! Then I'll make you a sandwich.

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i like your style!!!

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Yes give me your beer! And your beer and your beer. I drink them all and I'll poor it into my ears too when they say that!

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Oh, the visual 🤣

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When I try to talk to my 5 shot mom, she says "I don't know where you get your information" I respond, "I know where you are not getting yours". I try to not bring it up, but when they do, it's all I can do to not Scream ! but as the Commander said, it is "Into the Void"

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Well, everyone needs to be careful about where they get their information, regardless of which side of this particular issue they land on.

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Amen!!!

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Ohhhhhhhh. That’s a hard one, You just want to shake them, 😃YOU KNOW, THEY ARE TELLING YOU FOR A REASON......THEY MEAN TO UPSET YOU EVEN IF THEY DONT KNOW THEY ARE DOING IT.

Saying nothing and not getting your emotions involved is better for you. You may have to separate yourself from these people.

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No, my cousin had no malign intent. The extensive variety of idiotic things she's done and said to me, I've accepted they are part of her extremely peculiar charm. But we are in touch extremely rarely. We ain't got nothing in common except the bloodline.

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You’d be surprised! Call it ‘extremely peculiar charm’ then. But please know that people that are not particularly happy in their life, are always trying to pull others down to their level, even without knowing it.

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Why would you assume, in this case, that my cousin isn't particularly happy in her life?

And deep disagreements don't imply anything except deep disagreements.

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Oh. You were debating......ok. I thought she was just telling you because she knew it would upset you,.....my apologies.

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😢

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My cousin asked why I'd chosen not to get the vax, and I said it had no short- or long-term safety track record yet, and she said "we took our chances because we were so afraid of the [Plague)."

Sure, grownups, take all the chances you want. But your little kids? This is the Cliff Notes nano-version of the utter collapse of civilization.

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We all need to have the OpenVAERS redbox report on our phones saved… As soon as someone asks why we didn’t take the kill shot… Just show them the red boxes.

1. Explain what VAERS is… (began in 1991, our canary in the coal mine)

2. Explain how the majority of people that post this information are medical personnel…

3. Explain the underreporting factor… (only 1-10% actually report adverse events)

4. In my case… Tell them about some of the people that I know personally that have been harmed or killed…

5. Explain the actual mortality rate from the CDC’s own website. (Flu is more harmful)

6. Explain about the fraudulent testing practices, PCR and rapid antigen test…

7. Go into the conflict of interest of the FDA and CDC and pharmaceutical companies.… Finders fees!

8. Talk about 65% of our medical schools are funded by pharmaceutical companies. How doctors are actually monetarily incentivized to give these shots!

9. Talk about the media being bought and paid for… Brought to you by Pfizer!

Oh my goodness, the longer I sit here the more talking points I think of! 🔥

Most the time people shut us down before we can even get past the first talking point… That’s to their detriment!

It’s still so hard to see our loved ones deteriorating right in front of our very eyes!

Hosea 4:6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge…🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😢

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"Phones," she says. Phones.

Seriously we need to get off the damned phones.

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Oh I agree with you! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 But they can be a tool in our tool belt… Especially since this younger generation is so wrapped up in their phones and computers… my point is having it right there to show someone immediately…

“Be ready always to give an answer, with gentleness and respect…”

I’m using 1 Peter 3:15… i’m obviously using this out of context but I do think the thought fits here…

Have a wonderful day and blessings and prayers to you and yours! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😌

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And it is not a happenstance that all of the media's and government 's messaging was focused on making people as fearful as possible so they would do what they were told to do. Unprecedented at the level seen and coordinated. I am not a religious person, but at this point after 3 years I can't see how the malfeasance does not have evil intentions at its core.

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Yes, I mentioned quite a number of revealed truths, including over-diagnosis and dreadul protocols pushed by China, but of course the damage is done already; for the average person now a retrospective is of little use; the horses have galloped off into the blood-red sunset. They are not temperamentally fit to seek justice in its most stark and necessary form.

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I've reached a point of cynicism that I believe that entities behind this covid scam had every intention of terrifying and deluding as many people as possible, even to the point of a certain percentage of the shots were harmless, to obfuscate the ones that weren't.

How many people rebut the argument that the inoculations are or could be deadly or of great harm by claiming that they haven't suffered any consequences, nor has anyone they know. You can't convince them, no proof is good enough, their minds are made up because otherwise how could they sleep at night. 🤦‍♀️

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Sounds like the same convo I've had with my family members. My nieces; ages 6, 7 and 10, have all been vaxxed. I tried to tell them there is no risk for children, but I'm not an "expert," so they didn't believe me. The fear was just too overpowering for them.

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I know your pain, may those pushing this insanity get what they deserve soon. God, to think we could not save many of our loved ones from obvious demented, murdering evil. Prison, exposure for what they have done and execution where it is still in the law books. Then record in the history books their names as the most evil murderous people there ever was.

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I take the high road.

I tell them that I've had the virus twice, it was a cold for me. And then state that anecdotally I have observed a lot of people I have spoken to who were vaccinated often speak of continued sickness, or recurring issues.

It's getting further out in the weeds out there, the reasons people got the vaccine and wear the masks.

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I don't want to be an evangelist for anything. With those closest to me I discuss the remedies I know have always worked for me with any infectious illness.

The rest is society-wide--refusing mandates, refusing masking etc. But as with anything else in life, we learn best from hard lessons.

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That must have been awful!

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OH my God that has to be the worst when they tell you they got the child jabbed. We went through that when the daughter said the grandmother gave them $200,0 to get a flu shot for her and the grand son and she did it. I won't say what I said especially after warning the daughter of the dangers.

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I wonder exactly who invented that raygun that demolished healthy skepticism so thoroughly. In all my extended family I'm the least educated, but I guess I got double rations of common sense. Maybe that led me to not get so educated.

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It's called mass formation.

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My response to that charge is “ So, VAERS is a government bureau under the aegis of HHS and it’s “all fake.” Why would the CDC or FDA not shut it down if a government health agency was “ lying?” Yea, it’s fake alright,,, the statistics are about 10% of what they actually are.

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"Anybody can write a report into VAERS"

"Ok, try it and let me know how far you get"

(ghost)

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Agreed. It’s a bureaucratic maze. No surprise. I attempted to report my Vaccine effects and gave up. And my doctor saw no need to record my post vax symptoms.

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except that your doctor is legally required to. you might remind him of that

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Her.. my symptoms ( indicative of possible blood clots) started 16 days after my second Pfizer... so according to her “ didn’t qualify” by definition. Yes, if I didn’t live in a town with a serious doctor shortage, I’d be shopping.

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Interesting. So more than two weeks after the shot, by definition, the shot is not to blame. Less than two weeks after the shot, and, by definition, you are not vaccinated.

Kind of explains a few things.

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And look for a new doctor!

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"G00gle says VAERS is wrong."

Full. Stop.

G00gle has spoken.

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Omg.That needs to go viral!!

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Exactly! If the VAERS data is fake, then why not also the experimental injections developed and promoted by the same agency?

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It’s the opposite, what the CDC actually puts out is “fake”. VAERS is 100% real. See how that works.

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