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chad's avatar

I've known it about the FDA for a REALLY long time. People are only even now waking up to the fact that it's not just pharmaceuticals but food as well. You think the typical "foods" and food additives people eat are safe because they've been "approved" by the FDA? Yeah, keep thinking that. Let me know how it goes for you.

In the meantime, farms that provide *real* food (like raw milk - you know, the stuff our ancestors drank without problem for thousands of years) are being raided by the feds.

If you really wanna see how much the FDA cares about you and your health, go compare the labels on a "food" product (like breakfast cereal) between what is sold in the U.S. and the same product as sold in Europe. Have a shovel ready to help you pick your jaw up off the ground.

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JudyC's avatar

Spent 1 yr in Italy and 3 in Switzerland, and 14 yrs traveling far and wide in Europe, South America, Africa, Mediterranean islands, etc. The difference in food, whether fresh or packaged, is jarring! We are nutritionally backwards in this country, starting from the ground up. We poison our soil, we poison everything we grow in it and then we poison everything we make with it.

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chad's avatar

Bingo. And then people wonder why Americans suffer so many health issues.

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JudyC's avatar

And why we’re so fat!

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I'll have you know, I am not fat, but undertall. I should be like nine feet tall.

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AndyinBC's avatar

I have a similar problem!

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kertch's avatar

I'm undertall in the midsection.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Why am I soft in the middle now, when the rest of my life is so hard?

~Paul Simon "Call Me Al."

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kertch's avatar

If you be my bodyguard, I will be your long-lost pal.

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Pi Guy's avatar

Ratios are hard.

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chad's avatar

Believe it or not, fluoridated water may play a big role in that as well:

https://curetsky.substack.com/p/pforced-pfarmaceuticals

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JudyC's avatar

Fortunately, I’m on well water or rain water with whole house filters. No fluoride.

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Pi Guy's avatar

Same!

*clinks muddy glass of water with Judy*

(I kid)

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JudyC's avatar

My generation grew up drinking water out of the garden hoses so pretty sure a little dirt ain’t gonna kill me!

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Pi Guy's avatar

Cold hose well water in a hot day was the best!

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kertch's avatar

At least you get your daily minerals.

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Pi Guy's avatar

And I eat hot dogs every day to keep my Nitrite levels up.

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Sue's avatar

Lol !

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Chiadrum's avatar

We don’t need “free” healthcare. We need nutrition and not poison.

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Charles weaver's avatar

They still use literally tons of pesticides that are banned here in Mexico and South America

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MarcusBierce's avatar

Not in Chile tho, NAFTA ensures that

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Charles weaver's avatar

827 million,831 million 1.2 billion and 3.9 billion

Tons of pesticide used by USA,EU,Brazil and China respectively in 2019

FYI

(The four largest exporters of agricultural product)

All have their own lists of banned pesticides

Don’t trust the compliance with their own bans in Brazil and China…

And fat people eat too much, period. Calories are cheap and available here, and nature intends for us to gain weight

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suannee's avatar

you're right

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Mitch's avatar

anecdotally, I never gain weight when I'm in Europe for long periods despite eating huge amounts of food and exercising less than in the US.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

So I should go on the European diet...by moving to Europe...

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Mitch's avatar

not sure it's worth it

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Chiadrum's avatar

I was in Italy, drinking and eating pasta and pizza and lost weight. Here, I work out like a fiend and eat zero carbs and I can’t lose an ounce.

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Mitch's avatar

when I was in Italy, I hardly saw any overweight people at all. I'm a big eater and I couldn't even handle their idea of a full lunch, course after course. Something's not right.

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

The USDA, the Dept. of Ag are just as captured and in cahoots with their counter-parts at FDA.

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chad's avatar

Without a doubt! I would love to know what in the Constitution makes the federal government believe any of that is within their purview anyway.

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

Well that's an easy one...nada, nothing, nyet, zilch, zero...

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JudyC's avatar

We’ve allowed it to continue because the public either doesn’t know, or many just don’t care or too many just trust federal agencies/government to do what’s right for them, to make them safe. Let's hope more are realizing these agencies could care less about our health and more about keeping their cronies in power and racking in the $$!

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JudyC's avatar

Don’t we know it! Just check out what they’re doing to small farmers, the Amish, and soon to a backyard garden near you!

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

I volunteer on a small, organic certified farm. You wouldn't believe the amount of BS regs they have to go through to run the operation. From local town ordinances and building inspectors, to state level regulations, to the 'organic cert' itself. Think the big AG businesses face the same hurdles?

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JudyC's avatar

Of course not! Been following the case of Amish organic farmer Amos Miller in PA. It’s insane what the state of PA is putting this farmer through, especially when you consider the # of complaints & recalls & tainted products from commercial growers/dairy operations. The lawfare is mind boggling!

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

They are trying to make 'an example' of the man...as a warning and threat to similar farmers.

Going up to my original thought, the USDA, FDA, CDC and many other Federal level agencies need to just be abolished. No reform, just nixed. Sure, some of the regs/rules might, maybe make sense. So, let the States decide if they want to adopt them. And let the States get the voter feedback if the Legislature starts waffling around or Governors turn to unpopular 'Executive' mandates. Hey...we can dream right?

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JudyC's avatar

1000% agree with you!

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John Luce's avatar

RFK Jr speaks Truth to Power & calls out these very important issues

He should be given authority to be a temporary Tsar overseeing and restructuring of these captured government agencies

Our nation’s health is deteriorating rapidly

It is a vicious cycle where Big Chem Big Ag Big Pharma Big Food Companies can all benefit from poisoning us and our children - we lead the world in obesity, diabetes, pre-diabetes, autoimmune diseases such as Parkinson’s- and our food supply is often toxic intentionally- follow the $$$ circle where one hand washes the other

The Amish are examples of excellent health fur all us to follow!

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Rosemary B's avatar

I agree.

We do not need to be building back better!

We need to deconstruct. the US govt has too many people on their payroll.

we did not elect these turds..... I still can not figure out how this balloooooned in the past 40 years!

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chad's avatar

Never mind restructuring - abolishing would be more apropos.

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Tonya's avatar

The people who are freaking out over Project 2025 would explode if you suggested abolishing regulatory agencies, but I'm with you. Let's get rid of them all.

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LP's avatar

I live in an area with lots of Amish, see them regularly in the grocery store...with carts full of white flour, sugar, cans of Crisco, 12-packs of Mountain Dew, Twinkies. I think they're probably not as healthy as everyone assumes.

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glenn's avatar

My favorite was seeing an Amish farmer spraying his field with the chemical tank and a sprayer pulled by a team of horses.

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EK MtnTime's avatar

Ditto!

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SCA's avatar

The Amish have enough congenital conditions because of inbreeding to fill twenty medical journals.

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Charles weaver's avatar

Just hush and eat your cricket powder…

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Tonya's avatar

Have you ever read the FDA definition for "natural flavor"?

Unfortunately, almost everything offered as a "healthier" version of a food product has this mystery ingreduent added.

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chad's avatar

I've looked at a lot that the FDA has done. Ever looked into why they took phenylpropanolamine (a *very* effective decongestant) off the market in 2005? One very flawed (IMO) study. https://curetsky.substack.com/p/the-fda-does-not-care-about-your

One. Yet listen to the laundry list of side effects on any pharmaceutical commercial today, and they still remain. Yeah, tell me the FDA cares about your health.

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SCA's avatar

I have lived in a place far far away where even in mud villages inhabited by the illiterate, everyone boils milk fresh from the buffalo before using it, They would consider anyone who didn't to be a moron.

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chad's avatar

I and my family have been drinking raw cow milk for years with no issues.

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