The "I told you so" grim satisfaction I'd otherwise feel is denied to many of us who have loved ones, cherished friends etc. who did get vaxxed.
I was terribly worried but held my tongue when a beloved friend of nearly 50 years in the UK told me she was getting vaxxed. She knew I wasn't, and I know she felt I was being a little--foolish? Tinfoil hatted? After her second dose she had catastrophic consequences. Lost a transplanted kidney. Spent 4 months in hospital. Resuscitated from cardiac arrest 3 times before the EMTs even got her out of her house.
The bitterness I feel about what was done to her--they ain't got words for it. And for everyone else I care about who's had the vax? Every time one of 'em isn't feeling well my heart drops.
After two years of not seeing each other except over Zoom, my cousin, a pharma hotshot, agreed to get together for Passover this weekend. He's bringing his 90+-year-old mother and asked us to get COVID tested. "So, is it just because my family and I are unjabbed?" I jabbed. "No, Rando ... *sigh* Everyone needs to test because the jabs don't work, OK?" (paraphrasing a bit there) I wouldn't call this sanity yet, but at least we're working on the stages of grief and letting go, I guess.
im in the uk, i had the covid 2 weeks back, was ill for 2 days. unjabbed. i got ill again this week.
(only ill for 3 days in total cos i take high doses of liposomal vitamin c) but i think i aught to point out that at no point did i get a test or tell a doctor so i wonder how many unjabbed like me are not reporting and altering the picture
It's crazy. I still have family members who maintain that the only way to get 'back to normal' is to get everyone vaccinated. Even though they are getting covid. It is a bitter irony that they might well be prolonging the pandemic and facilitating more potent variants that put themselves at greater risk. And for what? Vaccinating the vulnerable and elderly wasn't enough of a market share so they had to expand to every living thing on planet earth.
"this risk finds uneasy confluence with the oddly strident push, especially in the US, to claim that “long covid” is causing so many of the bad outcomes that look to stem from vaccines and increasingly VFS"
I noted the exact same meme starting to be pushed starting about 2 weeks ago, and in multiple media outlets here in the mainland US. I have been worried since about last Summer that it might turn out that raising an immune response to a single protein of a virus would inhibit the the raising of an immune response to the rest of the particle in an infection with an evolved variant. There is a ton of stuff we don't know about how the immune system works, and we went an injected half the planet with these single protein vaccines. Colossal stupidity is the only description I have for it.
Fascinating. I took one J&J jab under duress/coercion for work and from close family, trying to save my marriage. Still not sure it worked to achieve the latter.... anyway - April 2021 vaxx, then Covid very mild in January 2022, caught from daughter (unvaxxed middle schooler who caught Covid from a vaxxed, masked kid at school!!). I thought somehow I recall Geert van den Bossche said that perhaps omicron could be a “reset” for people like me. I’ll take no more shots ever and disappointed I made the concession to my wife, but hoping for some chance to get past all this. She wanted to give the kids the shots but I told her no way - at least that worked!!
The Democrats, in their continuing attempt to upset the world, and invert the meaning of things, have evidently changed vaccine from an immunity to something entirely different. I wish I was a cat, and could find a warm place in the sun, and not give a damn.
Here's where being stuck in the "Covid" narrative is a trap.
There is not now nor has there ever been an epidemiological or viral emergency event of any sort anywhere in the world in the year 2020. The manufactured perception that there was such an event is an artifact of mass media manipulation, behavioral conditioning techniques and social engineering.
What is currently happening is that the mRNA injections are vaporizing the immune system creating all sorts of illnesses not "Covid being enabled by the vaccines."
"Covid" itself is not a unique disease and never was. It's a catch-all set of symptoms that was invented to gin up fear.
All of the exaggerated and repeated fear-based messages from the media and government agencies these past two years were just part of the advertising campaign for the pharmaceutical industry’s newest lucrative product. Without the fear-mongering propaganda campaign no one would’ve noticed anything unusual about the last two flu seasons because there was nothing unusual, except for the criminal, murderous, and utterly unscientific lockdown policies in response to the non- existent threat.
"Covid-19" was simply the flu re-branded (the "flu" itself is problematic for a number of reasons) and was used as a terror campaign to execute financial and policy goals.
“Covid” is used as cover for crashing the economies in the Western world. There is not now and never has been a “pandemic”- that is all Kabuki theater to disguise the reality of the rapid economic decline brought on by the Ponzi Schemes of financial institutions over the past few decades.
As long as “new variants lurk right around the corner”, public health bureaucrats and pandemic profiteers can invent the next “health emergency” to impose more shutdowns for any “viral event” that conveniently suits their political and financial aims.
Need to get off the "Covid" crazy train altogether- it's a fiction.
"playing further definitional games is unlikely to be able to hide an outcome of such magnitude. just like everyone noticed that all their vaxxed friends got covid, they’re going to notice this too."
One would think but it's hard to bet on common sense when the original rationale for mandates was that jabs would stop the spread & keep the vaccinated from getting or spreading Covid yet mandates still face paltry resistance. It would be impossible to believe if we did not see with our own eyes just as top athletes drop like flies and media spins it as rare but normal occurrence.
I think it would be really good if the unelected fourth branch of US government that apparently rules the other three branches and all of the rest of us would be required to give a rational, data-supported answer to the question of why fifteen fully vaccinated tennis players were unable to finish the Miami Open this week.
Did that information even travel outside Miami? I don't watch TV, so I don't know if the people with socks in their ears would have been exposed to this interesting tidbit and, perhaps, wondered why.
I've been given hell by very many people who accused me of falling under the influence of 'the dark side' on vaccination: should they happen to fall ill I would have to zip my mouth to stop laughing, but if they should happen to die I would genuinely miss them all: because they are not really bad people, they merely thought the science was on their side and failed to interrogate it with sufficient critical thinking or analysis. Arrogant and supercilious, yes. But not loathesome.
They are mostly bright people, computer software engineers, one or two teachers and even a top nurse manager, but I am the only one of them who studied Public Health Management, and it taught me to be very, very wary of any promises made by Big Pharma or the Media, and to have a total disrepect of elected policians.
1) Will poor immune response be limited to the CoV 2 family, or other respiratory viruses or other pathogens whether viral or bacterial?
2) ‘ even the folks i know who were still saying “thank goodness i got boosted it made my second time catching covid milder than it would have been!” are not going to be OK getting it a third time (as many vaccinated seem to be starting to be) and the fact that this is not happening to the unjabbed will get noticed, esp in the US. there is still a significant control group.’
Does this explain the incomprehensible continued push by Govts for people to get vaccinated to eliminate the non-vaxxed control group or the ‘just’ double vaxxed as a comparison group so comparisons cannot be made?
This is exactly what Geert Vanden Bossche said from the beginning would happen.
The "I told you so" grim satisfaction I'd otherwise feel is denied to many of us who have loved ones, cherished friends etc. who did get vaxxed.
I was terribly worried but held my tongue when a beloved friend of nearly 50 years in the UK told me she was getting vaxxed. She knew I wasn't, and I know she felt I was being a little--foolish? Tinfoil hatted? After her second dose she had catastrophic consequences. Lost a transplanted kidney. Spent 4 months in hospital. Resuscitated from cardiac arrest 3 times before the EMTs even got her out of her house.
The bitterness I feel about what was done to her--they ain't got words for it. And for everyone else I care about who's had the vax? Every time one of 'em isn't feeling well my heart drops.
After two years of not seeing each other except over Zoom, my cousin, a pharma hotshot, agreed to get together for Passover this weekend. He's bringing his 90+-year-old mother and asked us to get COVID tested. "So, is it just because my family and I are unjabbed?" I jabbed. "No, Rando ... *sigh* Everyone needs to test because the jabs don't work, OK?" (paraphrasing a bit there) I wouldn't call this sanity yet, but at least we're working on the stages of grief and letting go, I guess.
Just name it the Sisyphus variant from now on.
im in the uk, i had the covid 2 weeks back, was ill for 2 days. unjabbed. i got ill again this week.
(only ill for 3 days in total cos i take high doses of liposomal vitamin c) but i think i aught to point out that at no point did i get a test or tell a doctor so i wonder how many unjabbed like me are not reporting and altering the picture
It's crazy. I still have family members who maintain that the only way to get 'back to normal' is to get everyone vaccinated. Even though they are getting covid. It is a bitter irony that they might well be prolonging the pandemic and facilitating more potent variants that put themselves at greater risk. And for what? Vaccinating the vulnerable and elderly wasn't enough of a market share so they had to expand to every living thing on planet earth.
Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche has been screaming this from the rooftop from the beginning. But people just won’t listen!
"this risk finds uneasy confluence with the oddly strident push, especially in the US, to claim that “long covid” is causing so many of the bad outcomes that look to stem from vaccines and increasingly VFS"
I noted the exact same meme starting to be pushed starting about 2 weeks ago, and in multiple media outlets here in the mainland US. I have been worried since about last Summer that it might turn out that raising an immune response to a single protein of a virus would inhibit the the raising of an immune response to the rest of the particle in an infection with an evolved variant. There is a ton of stuff we don't know about how the immune system works, and we went an injected half the planet with these single protein vaccines. Colossal stupidity is the only description I have for it.
Fascinating. I took one J&J jab under duress/coercion for work and from close family, trying to save my marriage. Still not sure it worked to achieve the latter.... anyway - April 2021 vaxx, then Covid very mild in January 2022, caught from daughter (unvaxxed middle schooler who caught Covid from a vaxxed, masked kid at school!!). I thought somehow I recall Geert van den Bossche said that perhaps omicron could be a “reset” for people like me. I’ll take no more shots ever and disappointed I made the concession to my wife, but hoping for some chance to get past all this. She wanted to give the kids the shots but I told her no way - at least that worked!!
The Democrats, in their continuing attempt to upset the world, and invert the meaning of things, have evidently changed vaccine from an immunity to something entirely different. I wish I was a cat, and could find a warm place in the sun, and not give a damn.
Here's where being stuck in the "Covid" narrative is a trap.
There is not now nor has there ever been an epidemiological or viral emergency event of any sort anywhere in the world in the year 2020. The manufactured perception that there was such an event is an artifact of mass media manipulation, behavioral conditioning techniques and social engineering.
What is currently happening is that the mRNA injections are vaporizing the immune system creating all sorts of illnesses not "Covid being enabled by the vaccines."
"Covid" itself is not a unique disease and never was. It's a catch-all set of symptoms that was invented to gin up fear.
All of the exaggerated and repeated fear-based messages from the media and government agencies these past two years were just part of the advertising campaign for the pharmaceutical industry’s newest lucrative product. Without the fear-mongering propaganda campaign no one would’ve noticed anything unusual about the last two flu seasons because there was nothing unusual, except for the criminal, murderous, and utterly unscientific lockdown policies in response to the non- existent threat.
"Covid-19" was simply the flu re-branded (the "flu" itself is problematic for a number of reasons) and was used as a terror campaign to execute financial and policy goals.
“Covid” is used as cover for crashing the economies in the Western world. There is not now and never has been a “pandemic”- that is all Kabuki theater to disguise the reality of the rapid economic decline brought on by the Ponzi Schemes of financial institutions over the past few decades.
As long as “new variants lurk right around the corner”, public health bureaucrats and pandemic profiteers can invent the next “health emergency” to impose more shutdowns for any “viral event” that conveniently suits their political and financial aims.
Need to get off the "Covid" crazy train altogether- it's a fiction.
"playing further definitional games is unlikely to be able to hide an outcome of such magnitude. just like everyone noticed that all their vaxxed friends got covid, they’re going to notice this too."
One would think but it's hard to bet on common sense when the original rationale for mandates was that jabs would stop the spread & keep the vaccinated from getting or spreading Covid yet mandates still face paltry resistance. It would be impossible to believe if we did not see with our own eyes just as top athletes drop like flies and media spins it as rare but normal occurrence.
I think it would be really good if the unelected fourth branch of US government that apparently rules the other three branches and all of the rest of us would be required to give a rational, data-supported answer to the question of why fifteen fully vaccinated tennis players were unable to finish the Miami Open this week.
"An unprecedented number of players either withdrew or retired from the Miami Open this week. A total of 15 players were unable to finish, including the male and female favorites to win." https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/5914-fifteen-fully-vaccinated-tennis-players-unable-to-finish-miami-open
Did that information even travel outside Miami? I don't watch TV, so I don't know if the people with socks in their ears would have been exposed to this interesting tidbit and, perhaps, wondered why.
Oh dear.
What a total balls-up.
How sad.
I've been given hell by very many people who accused me of falling under the influence of 'the dark side' on vaccination: should they happen to fall ill I would have to zip my mouth to stop laughing, but if they should happen to die I would genuinely miss them all: because they are not really bad people, they merely thought the science was on their side and failed to interrogate it with sufficient critical thinking or analysis. Arrogant and supercilious, yes. But not loathesome.
They are mostly bright people, computer software engineers, one or two teachers and even a top nurse manager, but I am the only one of them who studied Public Health Management, and it taught me to be very, very wary of any promises made by Big Pharma or the Media, and to have a total disrepect of elected policians.
Two questions.
1) Will poor immune response be limited to the CoV 2 family, or other respiratory viruses or other pathogens whether viral or bacterial?
2) ‘ even the folks i know who were still saying “thank goodness i got boosted it made my second time catching covid milder than it would have been!” are not going to be OK getting it a third time (as many vaccinated seem to be starting to be) and the fact that this is not happening to the unjabbed will get noticed, esp in the US. there is still a significant control group.’
Does this explain the incomprehensible continued push by Govts for people to get vaccinated to eliminate the non-vaxxed control group or the ‘just’ double vaxxed as a comparison group so comparisons cannot be made?
I think the idea with covid AIDS is that it will ultimately break down the immune system entirely, and not just with covid or cornoaviruses.