“… the virus will in a next step most likely evolve to also increase its virulence, thereby causing a dramatic rise in cases of severe disease (ADED) and death in vaccinees.”
YIKES!
Thank you for sharing that link. What a bleak prospect. Looking more likely by the day unfortunately.
I want it to be wrong. My immediate family is happily unvaccinated, but a lot of people I live got the initial “vaccine.” About half of those went in for round 3. A few round 4. 🤦♀️. I give up on the round 4 folks because there is no curing stupid, to a lesser extent round 3, but a crap ton were lied to (old people who got the shots 1st), or coerced with mandates, and chronic Covid and death is a harsh sentence. I already know 8 young children who lost their dads, and another half a dozen between 50 and 70 who dropped dead even though all but one was extremely healthy.
This whole mess was preventable. It’s evil these shots are being pushed on anyone, but especially cruel when forced on the mostly already immune young and healthy. 💔
Ignorance, gullibility, or lack of options alone shouldn’t be a sentence for serious health problems.
What I fear the most is that whatever happens with the infection or reinfection rate of the vaccinated, Fauci, Biden, MSM, and other clueless health leaders are going to opt for blaming the unvaccinated for the failures of the vaccine. Blaming the unvaccinated would likely be the choice that highly vaccinated groups will buy. This gross misunderstanding could lead to forced vaccination, even approved by the highly vaccinated and boosted US Supreme Court. Only God knows where this is going.
Well, you are probably correct because the Supreme Court is dumb and is apparently getting dumber with each new addition. (Can you define what a woman is? 'D'uh.)
My parents did round 4, before it was even authorized, and I can assure you there's no cure. It's really sad but I just could not stop them. Believe me I tried. I would not be surprised if they do #5, since I unfortunately mentioned to them that #4 wears off in a month or 2.
Unfortunately they believe in "science" and get their information from reputable sources.
How can it be that you know so many who died? I'm not necessarily doubting what you've saying, but it seems statistically unlikely. Most of us probably don't know of anyone.
This isn’t meant to be overly harsh, but I’m not talking about because I care who believes me online (in real life the conversation are with other people and there are funerals and an obituaries so there isn’t disbelief though there is shock). Believe whatever makes sense to you.
Our experience is why we personally went from not wanting to rush out and get an experimental shot we didn’t need, to being so opposed to getting one it would take a heck of a lot more coercion than the threat of jobs and travel to get us to take it. First hand experience is rather motivating.
We also don’t go around intentionally get ourselves infected with any viruses as a general rule, yet we did on this one because it buys even more time from coercion since we can prove (as well as anyone can) recent infection via antibody test that were very negative late fall 2021x and very positive late February 2022. We intentionally waited until natural immunity was more widely acknowledged even though it should have been the default from early on because humans have grasp the concept for thousands of years. We never tried to avoid the virus, but we waited on having a Covid party until it seemed to be our best shot at more protection from mandates and coercion (even if buying time to figure out next steps to plan ahead).
Our jobs create a pretty wide net of friends and people we know, I grew up where we live, we are involved in the community, and we keep in touch with friends we were close with throughout our lives from all over. Having kids seems to always create a much larger social group, though the guys with young kids we know that dropped dead don’t have anything to do with our kids - the connection pre-dates their birth in 2 cases, and is through my brother-in-law in the other. We don’t have social media so we communicate a lot the good old fashion way - person to person. We live a pretty good life and are fortunate to know lots of people. I’m not sure if that’s a blessing or a curse at the moment. It’s certainly been heartbreaking and outright terrifying.
What we’ve seen first hand is why WE won’t touch these damn shots with a 50-foot pole. While I’d like to say we are motivated only by principle that medical coercion is wrong, and unnecessary for something genuinely safe and effective, the reality is we have faced coercion like everyone else, and our real life experience is likely what has solidified our willpower. It would take a whole lot more than threats of financial harm, or missing some events and travel, for us to risk our health over these things. It has freaked us out enough we have stopped ALL vaccines as a family, switched to an integrative health practice (which is very expensive), and started a paper trail to ensure we have a history of not taking vaccines if we ever need an exemption in the future, particularly for our children who are privately educated in a conservative Christian school that hasn’t ever imposed vaccine mandates and has always accepted broad religious exemptions to check boxes for the state. We are freaked out enough we are planning for years from now so colleges would have a much more difficult time rejecting religious exemptions for our kids, and paying a small fortune to an integrative medical practice to help with medical exemptions while establishing a long history of treatment.
I get a stranger online doesn’t have anywhere near enough information to really assess the statistical likelihood if someone knows too many people who have died this year, nor do the statistics change the reality we have dealt with first hand. Even though we do have a wide social net, we should NOT know this number of people in our social circles who have left life this past year without real explanation. It’s scary as hell.
I wouldn't be surprised if you do know some people with serious adverse effects. An older friend of ours came down with sudden congestive heart failure the month she took her shots. I noticed that of our mutual friends, we were the only ones who noticed the connection. Also, if you start having conversations, you hear things like "my uncle died the day after he was vaccinated, but they said there was no connection."
A guy in his 50s in our church who died suddenly of a heart attack, we knew he was double vaxxed and it was around the time everyone was getting boosters. Literally the last time my husband had spoken to him, he had a premonition and wanted to warn him to stop getting vaccinated further because my husband thought another shot was likely to kill him. But it's so easy to offend people and maybe there would be another chance to talk about it. But there wasn't.
No one we know mentioned the possibility it was the booster that killed him. It would seem rude at such a sad time, so this stuff flies under the radar and isn't looked into to find out one way or another.
My sister in law's family friend died the afternoon (after getting her shot that morning) while horseback riding.
And worst of all was the college age boy, my cousin's son's best friend, who died after getting vaccinated. That one hit me most because he had so few years he got to live and so much potential missed.
Anyways, I learned all these accounts through conversations or observations. Most (though not the college boy) are relatively easy to overlook if you aren't thinking about it actively.
I know 3 sudden fatal heart attacks, two of whom were low risk, middle aged women, and three stage 4 cancers at diagnosis. The cancer victims are still in treatment, but the diagnosis is still quite new for each of them, so the prognosis is uncertain.
I don't know you, and am not trying to be argumentative. But I can tell you I know 20 people who were most likely injured with another 8 that may have been injured. Of the 28, 8 are dead. I have 3 more friends who are suffering from Stage 4 cancer whom I don't expect to last the year.
Not what I wanted to read. Tempting to have an 'omicron party' before the virus jumps into something more virulent, reminiscent of getting kids together to pass along chicken pox, that is if we knew anyone who had become infected recently. Hate to think where we would be had it not been for Omicron, just as many governments were pushing their most draconian programs. Certainly many who just love controlling others are waiting in the wings ready to pounce should a more dangerous variant emerge.
I hid for two years (I’m unjabbed) and decided to catch Omicron in February, by attending four parties in a week. My only symptoms were a purple toe and very stiff joints. I’m still stiff but I don’t regret infecting myself as I believed GvdB was correct from the moment I first heard him talk about the jabs. Unfortunately it looks like he was a true prophet of doom.
I really recommend people shouldn't try to catch covid without having Ivermectin and zinc and many other early treatment options on hand so as to prevent long term issues.
I’ve been taking zinc, vitamins C and D, quercetin and NAC for the past two years. I wouldn’t have tried to catch it without using these supplements. I’ve been on my own, in my home, for two years. That was killing me and I’m not prepared to live my life in that way an longer.
My biggest concern is belief in the existence of a transmissible virus will keep humanity in bondage by those who say they will keep us safe, and instead are ruining our lives.
The cancer issue is already huge. I know several such cases just in my small town circle. I've lost a couple friends already and it's just going to blossom over the next years. I'm with you! It's also my biggest concern.
This is what I'm seeing the most of now. (Most of the clotting / heart issues seem to have already happened.) Know 7 people fighting cancer. 4 are currently at stage 4. I think their prognosis for surviving this year or low, unfortunately.
Vande Bossche says more virulent next. Mass death to follow. Could have been avoided. But it's also toxic since all cause mortality and excess deaths are indicating the vaccines are causing disease that are not being correlated to the vaccines. But they clearly are. People are dropping dead and that is NOT NORMAL.
It’s too neat & tidy that the prediction of an obscure outcome using immunology that immunologists in the main don’t find plausible turns out precisely to be what has apparently happened...?
All my radars are sounding at the same time.
The author of the concern shows up mid-pandemic, having made no comment prior to that moment.
I don't recall when exactly he burst onto the scene but it was late 2020 - after you and experts like Bhakdi. Not sure if it was mid-stream. Yes, he's ex-GAVI but we should be careful on using it against him because these past two years I've watched him in numerous interviews (like yourself!) and read a lot of his work. His prognostications have seem to be more on cue than not. Of course he's just applying his knowledge to what he thinks this may all go. I can only go with the fact he did predict this would happen. Unless I'm mistaken. Cheers - and thanks for your fight!
Thanks. Although Geert needs a translator who can put his jargon into layman's terms. That shit gets deep; I have to read it 3 times.
"...non-neutralizing vaccinal Abs compete with relevant multi-specific innate Abs (i.e., IgMs) for binding to SC-2 as in both cases binding is thought to involve multivalent binding interactions"....I think what he means here is that naive, innate immune factors aren't specific ('trained") enough to compete with vaccinal antibodies, which are weak but at least are specifically targeted to SARS-CoV2's spike protein, and apparently attach to the virus at multiple points (like an octopus?), thus occupying binding points that immune factors might otherwise attack. In other words, elite innate-immunity army, a batallion of inept, newbie soldiery is blocking your access to the enemy.
You might enjoy the following pre-covid study on influenza. Alex Berenson pointed it out (not that his position was supported by the reference.) It's referring to original antigenic sin in influenza. And takes a look at how, not strictly old age, but age cohorts based on the variant circulating when they were first imprinted helped or hampered those same age groups during future outbreaks. It's as dense as Geert, but interesting. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13524-019-00809-y
No, it's just virology, not inside information. He and Didier Raoult said virtually the same thing from the beginning--that if you vaccinate into a pandemic with a very non-sterilizing vaccine, you are going to drive nasty variants. Others said so too. Both Vanden Bossche and Raoult have paid dearly for being honest about that information. Malone has said so too, but not from the beginning.
I expect though that their concerns are theoretical, based on the belief you’ve summarised? That is, we have avoided doing that in the past?
I’m sceptical because there is substantial evidence that there isn’t a new virus circulating & killing large numbers of people.
In the claimed pandemic year, there is so much that’s inconsistent with a respiratory virus pandemic. Listen to Denis Rancourt interviewed by Jerm Warfare (Dec 6 2021).
I believe that “vaccines” are killing large numbers of people through at least two mechanisms:
1. Direct adverse effects of the “vaccines”
2. Indirect effects which may be secondary to immune suppression.
I agree about these vaccines wholeheartedly, but this is not a theoretical concern--this is basic virology based on how viruses mutate. That is why Didier Raoult (world's most cited virologist) laughed at the idea of the mRNA vaccines, because he knew they would be extremely non-sterilizing. It got him fired from his own virology institute that he founded in Marseille because of pressure from the French government. That and his advice to use HCQ, which he has gone on to use successfully on 10,000 COVID patients in Marseille, losing only a few patients over 80 and in frail health. There IS a new virus circulating, probably from a lab, but the survival rate is 99.85% worldwide. The virus has been isolated, so there is no doubt of its existence.
Covid is really different than anything I ever had before. Never in my life did I lose taste and smell with any illness before covid. Many people say food begins to smell like garbage. A unique symptom even though it faded with Omicron. I can't believe that Covid was not new
Same here. Olfactory epithelium and pericytes (speculating, but had blood pressure issues), 2 viral targets (ACE2 receptors). Weirdest "illness" I ever had. I called it an affliction, because "sick" didn't seem appropriate.
NEVER *completely* lost my sense of smell before in my 50 years. Luckily it only lasted ~10 days.
I'm curious, why only a couple dozen? Covid spread so quickly around the world. Why not some of these other viruses that affect human airways? Maybe there isn't a good answer, but I'm interested if you know.
The leaked virus and leaky vaccine are examples of hybrid warfare.. key elements in a live exercise (pandemic simulation) to engineer a soft-landing for the collapse of Industrial Civilization due to diminishing EROI and other things hidden in complexity.
Immunity by subscription, digital ID, vaccine passports and ESGs/Social credit are a means to ration dwindling resources and restrict access/mobility and are recommended steps in the scripted narratives of live exercises, alliance symposiums and current policy initiatives. It's not a conspiracy if they admit it.
It would make sense that some prominent voices are useful to this reductionist, collectivist effort. Whether they are aware of it or not is a good question.
Wrench in the Gears by Allison McDowell had an early article suggesting the GBD and it's 3 prominent scientists are a form of controlled opposition considering that they were allowed to retain their positions whereas people like Mark Crispin Miller and other were censored.
With access to information and analysis of the whole situation (energy limits and things hidden in complexity), I've been putting as much time into preparing for collapse as I have been reading new perspectives on the virus and vaccine. I appreciate your efforts in this struggle. Thanks for reading!
Thanks for this interesting perspective. Each to their own stance. I’m not at all convinced that the perpetrators needed to do anything & furthermore, I believe the long run narratives around shortages are their work, including “climate change”. I do appreciate that we, useless eaters, are consuming “their” non-renewables & they and their descendants will have a nicer life if 90% of us disappear.
To my mind, they couldn’t admit what they’re doing for these reasons. There are alternative methods to rationing.
My goal had been to assist in preventing whatever it was that they were doing. Sadly, their calculations were ably done & we’ve been unsuccessful. The best that can be hoped for is to modify the time course to an extent. Personally I’m not interested in surviving the transition. Our preparations are therefore limited to creating time to choose how not to!
Ah yes, the rarely mentioned, but inescapable issue: there are hard limits to how large a population can grow. We already have chronic issues with 8 billion. It seems rather unlikely that matters will improve with 16 or 32 billion. Solutions will come. We may not like any of them, but the problem will be solved.
Alternatives to rationing? Regenerative farming, re-localization and some attempt at circular economy? Reduce debt, lower standard of living, voluntary poverty to resist? General strike? Maybe you can tell us how and who you trust in building resilience so we can buy some more time? Thanks!
I regret to confess I’m making no particular preparations.
I’m 62 & suffer chronic pain & an invisible disability that in combination make life quite difficult, even when everything is running well.
It’s an active decision not to seek to survive what’s coming, if it’s any of the handful of scenarios I envisage.
If freedom is truly lost, it’s not a world I want to survive in.
So I’ve absolutely not given up. If anything I would like you to see this for what it is: nothing to lose, so I’m definitely trying things I might not, if I was troubled about the future.
Sorry to hear about the medical issues Dr. Yeadon. You always have a pleasant smile on your face whenever I've seen you on video. Never would have guessed. If this is your idea of leaving it out on the field, it looks like courage to the rest of us! Thank you sir!
Could you get your doctor to prescribe low dose naltraxone? So helpful for a variety of chronic pain conditions. Great book available to read up on it if you search.
Hi, Dr.! Do you have children or grandchildren? Maybe you have nothing to lose but surely they do. I fight for my daughter, son-in-law, and granddaughter and all their still young friends. I could not live with myself if I didn't even though, because I had two jabs, I may not live that long. Still, I'm doing extremely well now and so I'm going at this with the mindset that the powers-that-be are going to be sorry they messed with us and lied to us. These vaccines never should have been released on us.
Thanks for your time. I like your suggestion on not giving up and trying new things. The answer for us frail humans may be "follow your bliss" as Joseph Campbell said. Best wishes my friend!
Agreed they control the levers on energy, food and resources in a way that protects core IC and their elite experience of the planet. I'm sure you and I have both done our parts. Keep up the good fight! Enjoy your week Dr. Mike!
Anyone with any basic training in virology or medical statistics could see it from the Pfizer Summary Application to the FDA. I saw it and I'm certainly no genius
I read the Pfizer summary application to the FDA and IMHO it was full of red flags and I simply could not believe the vaccine was approved. I wrote up my observations and I also contacted every government official in my jurisdiction as as well as the media and the public health officials I knew personally. No one listened. Even my kids and grandkids went and got vaxxed. I know exactly how Cassandra felt. Naked Emperor kindly published my observations at the time for me, complete with typos.
I still can't believe this vaccine got FDA approval. The things I saw were so basic. These are methods of analysis I taught to first year medical students. The only possible explanation I can think of for why no one in the entire medical community used their own brains is that everyone was blinded by fear and decided listening to the FDA and CDC was easier. You should have heard the gasp from my husband's family doctor when I explained why my husband and I were refusing the vax. He (like all doctors) was being paid a fat bonus for each patient he called on the telephone and asked to come in to get vaxxed. He started to stutter and then made some noises about FDA approval and being used by millions and it must be safe. He then redeemed himself by saying "no pressure, no pressure, it's entirely your choice." Of course that was before the insanity of vaccine passports.
This is great & thank you for outlining what you did, saw & reported.
You’re absolutely right.
There are to me a veteran of R&D astonishing gaps in the dossier.
There is no section on ADME (absorption, distribution, metabolism & elimination) or pharmacodynamics. They’ve formally no idea where the dose goes, what it does there & for how long, let alone effects.
No formal reproductive toxicology section yet it’s “safe for pregnant women”.
The manufacturing section is a disgrace.
Do watch out for America’s Grand Jury, every day this week. I’m sure there’ll be edits issued over coming weeks.
... also Malone didn’t say anything at the beginning... seems fine with it for elderly & compromised... at least GVB said end of last year that vaccination campaign should cease immediately... but then he’s not the one up on the pedestal.
thank you again Dr Mike for your positive contributions.
Your comments below are excellent. While our tinfoil hats have been in fact remarkably useful over the past couple of years, it's also true that one can be over-primed to see The Crawling Eye everywhere, even when sometimes it really is just an ordinary shadow. Thank you for your contributions here.
The "I told you so" grim satisfaction I'd otherwise feel is denied to many of us who have loved ones, cherished friends etc. who did get vaxxed.
I was terribly worried but held my tongue when a beloved friend of nearly 50 years in the UK told me she was getting vaxxed. She knew I wasn't, and I know she felt I was being a little--foolish? Tinfoil hatted? After her second dose she had catastrophic consequences. Lost a transplanted kidney. Spent 4 months in hospital. Resuscitated from cardiac arrest 3 times before the EMTs even got her out of her house.
The bitterness I feel about what was done to her--they ain't got words for it. And for everyone else I care about who's had the vax? Every time one of 'em isn't feeling well my heart drops.
Same here. My parents and step-parents all got the jab, despite my advice and making sure they had true "informed consent". My voice wasn't enough to overcome their trust in the government and the fear-mongering media. I worry every day.
Jules, this is what breaks my heart. I'm a nurse. I work in a law firm. I am not a stupid person and I have spent hours and hours and hours reading and researching about Covid and then the shots. But when it came time to talk to my kids, my oldest two cared more about what people on Instagram or on a podcast had to say than their mom who has loved them and cared for them for 25+ years. Thankfully my younger kids have listened but I truly grieve for the older ones.
NAB I'm so sorry. I have a 16-year-old and I am thankful every day that he is a junior firefighter and most of the men at the fire station have been outspoken against the jabs and the mandates. So he hears the truth from more than just his parents... I guess the only thing we can do is take comfort in the fact that all bodies are unique and many are capable of surviving serious insult. I'll pray that your children are among the ones who are able to flush these toxins and repair their immune systems. Just as I pray the same for my parents...
My adult kid's employer mandated it but even before, my kid decided to get it (J&J) after discussing with friends. Discussed thoroughly with me too, and one of the really hard parts about being a parent is knowing they must ultimately decide for themselves. Fortunately my kid does trust much of my advice and takes 1000 mgs vitamin C daily, and since I know it's an anti-coagulant and anti-inflammatory, I just had to say all my prayers to the Beneficent Force of the Cosmos and try not to do that endless scream of horror thing. But it's hard.
I am so sorry for your pain. I know how hard this is and I too have people I love in my life that were hurt by the jab or were deceived. But there is a God, Jesus, and he loves you and I more than we can imagine. I will pray for you and your family.
Satan is working powerfully in this world but don't fear for Jesus "has overcome this world"!
"May the Lord bless you and keep you. May he make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you. May he lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace."
I will be forever grateful that my two children and two of my three grandchildren are totally aware and have refused the shots at all costs. Sadly, one grandson got two Pfizer shots so he could continue his music concerts (he's a musician). Thankfully, he was convinced to not get a booster. So far, he has had no problems.
On the other hand, all three of my siblings got the shots, probably at least two of them also got boosters. Both my brothers had prostate cancer 15 and 20 years ago, and I'm holding my breath that they don't get a recurrence. Thus far, none of them has yet experienced any problems (to my knowledge). They're all three shot/mask fanatics so quite awhile ago I decided to not go there with all this...knowing that whatever I said would not change their leftist minds. I preferred to keep my family relations intact.
Same. My voice has been useless. Even after mom landed in the hospital for 5 days after her first dose (heart trouble). Even after she went BACK to the hospital following her second dose, and had to have part of her heart cauterized. Still got the booster in November—her doctor recommended it, after all! Now she has an ALS diagnosis. I'm brokenhearted, and angry as hell.
My friend Jeanette was just diagnosed with ALS. She had her booster on a Monday, the health nurse assuring her she was now 97% PROTECTED!!! By Friday she could not make her legs work. I think she had ALS for a time, but the booster seemed to BOOST THE DISEASE. My heart breaks for her - and everyone who may be suffering consequences from this shot.
Starting to feel like this thread is going to be a horror. For everyone who is experiencing the grief and fury of seeing a loved one harmed--I understand you to the marrow of my bones.
My wife & I both had distant upbringings from remote parents, and all four parents were dead while we were still quite young.
The point of mentioning this is neither of us have any idea what’s it’s like to lose a relative that you’re close to. My prayers are with you & anyone to whom this ghastly nightmare is their reality.
Our children thankfully are red pilled. But half our siblings are in the mass despite my best efforts.
They all know I was pretty senior in a big pharma & then successful as a biotech CEO.
Yet they discount everything I say as if I’m guessing & know nothing of the field.
I have no explanation for this. Nothing comes faintly close to anything I’ve ever heard of.
I never could grasp "witch burning," and other mass insanity. Now oh so sadly I do.
Read "Political Ponerology." It is pretty revealing as to the madness humans can slide into, temporarily.
We are watching the Fourth Reich rise around us, inside our neighbors, family, and friends, and orchestrated by those our of our direct reach.
The ones pulling the strings know well what they are doing, those on the strings are clueless.
My response is to speak out, reach as many as possible, resist in all ways possible, and pray unceasingly.
Gandhi said his greatest weapon was "mute prayer."
And, doing everything with great love, ala Saint Theresa, the "little flower," is the only way I know to work with the deep difficulty of perceiving that which we are staring into the face of.
Love is the opposite of fear and all other destructive negative feelings.
Despite the darkness I can still find it, and for me that symbol is the Rose. Especially the White Rose, ala Sophie Scholl. The example of a young woman standing fearlessly against the entire Nazi Machine is so, so powerful. And if she can do it, so can we.
If someone who has worked in the industry for decades including at Pfizer ... is unable to convince family members... then it is understandable that most others will not succeed.
I'd like to show this to a few people ... but they will tell me to f789 off and mind my own business...
You know, it's a funny thing. Losing parents is normal, right? That's life. You're supposed to lose them, they're not supposed to lose you. So everyone should go through this, it's sad but, you know, normal.
And then it happens to you and you realize that for every person in the world, it's their first and unique experience of this derangement of the rules of the universe because what kid, no matter how antique, is prepared to be motherless?
My mother and I had a horrible, horrible complex relationship, and she died in 2009 after months of medical mistakes and, by the end, the most unspeakable suffering, and it was the very worst year of my life following her death. I personally would have liked her kept forever in some sort of Twilight Zone alternative space of being--not bothering me, and remotely fine and happy. The centennial of her birth was this past December and it stunned me to be the child of a woman born 100 years ago and to continue to be the child of a now-dead mother. I sure as heck wouldn't want to be seeing or talking to her every day, that would drive me nuts, but I still really don't want her dead. Go figure.
That's the frustrating part, the obvious harm that people are willing to ignore. And it's what makes the situation more like dealing with people in a cult than having any kind of rational discourse.
This is the most balanced viewpoint to be in. The person who is cheering deaths out of spite has no love in their heart. I'm sorry about your friend. It's a sad thing what Pharma and the govts are doing.
"The person who is cheering deaths out of spite has no love in their heart."
You get 100 virtue points.
We're not cheering, but after 2 years+ of this idiocy I'll be damned if I'm going to be sympathetic to suicidal morons who disparaged us 'anti vaxxers' as selfish tinfoil hatted retards, who were risking everyone's life. Meh.
I made a last ditch attempt to rescue close family members who insisted on including their young kids in the injection program... I spent 30 minutes crafting what I thought would be a convincing email (I have multiple close friends with heart damage - one had minor issues after jab one and I was able to convince him to not take anymore... possibly saving his life)....
But nope. Not interested. 'We've all been injected/booster and we are fine'
I've got a couple of close friends who are boosted up - we spoke to them the other day and they both have swollen lymph nodes and are sick... the nodes have been swollen for nearly a month - the doctor prescribed antibiotics but that did nothing ... their fear was palpable on the video call - they probably think it's long covid (since they both had covid BEFORE getting jabs... go figure).
I am expecting bad news in the coming months.... (VAIDS?)
It is so incredibly difficult watching people hurt themselves and being powerless. I suspect a friends son [28] who claims to have "long covid" might actually be vaxxine injured. He is having cognitive issues; I suspect early prion disease. In the year since he's been injected, my 89 year old godfather has gone downhill, and has lost his memory. Yet no one will connect it to the injection, and no one wants to hear that they did something unwise and might have hurt themselves. They would rather be right than try to help themselves.
The people behind this are diabolically brilliant - they've use their PR to convince people vax injuries are long covid -- so the injured rush out to get the boosters.
Well, I got shingles in Jan. 2020. Got it mostly in my scalp! Then a tiny (one inch by one inch approx.) patch on my neck. I went into full Vitamin C cavalry mode and it didn't get any worse though my scalp was driving me nuts with the intermittent stabbing pains in my ears.
Enter the evil pharmaceutical wonderkinds.
I hadn't realized that back & body extra-strength aspirin would handle that; I only had regular, and a few mgs. makes a real difference. Anyway, after a week of moderate but real misery, I went to an urgent care place. Physician's asst. was very nice, very professional, wanted to prescribe Valtrex. I asked why since I was turning the corner, and he said that since it was in my scalp, which is near my brain, there was a small but real chance of meningitis complications.
So I filled the prescription (and got the aspirin...). You want to look up the instructions and the side effects for that baby. With what I know of kidney disease...
Anyway I took it but lived in real terror of wondering if fate was finally gonna catch up to me. And I think that's the last time I'll override my own instincts.
But anyway--16,000 mgs-18,000 mgs Vitamin C evenly divide over waking hours is what I took. I have no lingering after-effects of that nasty shingles outbreak and for the week I was unpharmaceuticalized, I'd say I was holding my own and as I'd stated, turning the corner. If I'd had the aspirin at home in the first place I'd never have gone to urgent care.
Thank you so much SCA. I will pass along the information to my sister in law, but honestly, she and her husband are believers in Big Pharma, so they will probably just stay on whatever regimen their doctor has for him. It's sad. There are natural remedies that can help people, but they are too brainwashed/stubborn to try them.
I've seen sooo many shingles cases post-vax. Not ONE realised the connection. Not ONE had a doctor make the connection, even though it is officially listed as an AE.
Dear living God, hope she'll be OK. I've been in fear for my vxxed family, all of whom but me took the jab. Praying they got the saline (this is a highly blue area). Not much faith in that, though.
Just remember that the doctors who've come through for us for over 2 years with early treatments are saying that the spike protein damage can be fixed. If any of your relatives mention concerns or problems suggest they check out flccc.net and the "I-Recover: Post-Vaccine Treatment" protocol.
Sorry about your friend, and I often ponder the same "feeling" regarding friends and loved ones. Coming off of Easter weekend, my immediate family were very likely the only ones 5+ yrs not vaccinated out of the larger family gathering of more than 30 members. Despite my wife and I catching COVID from a vaccinated family member last October, I'm willing to bet that we will be the first in the spotlight if anyone is found to be Positive after this weekend.
Based upon the data we continue to see mounting, I am concerned that there are dark days ahead and large amounts of misplaced blame.
She no longer answers my emails or my phone calls. I know she's struggling with extreme depression on top of everything else. I just send loving email greetings for every holiday I know is meaningful to her and she's in my thoughts always.
After two years of not seeing each other except over Zoom, my cousin, a pharma hotshot, agreed to get together for Passover this weekend. He's bringing his 90+-year-old mother and asked us to get COVID tested. "So, is it just because my family and I are unjabbed?" I jabbed. "No, Rando ... *sigh* Everyone needs to test because the jabs don't work, OK?" (paraphrasing a bit there) I wouldn't call this sanity yet, but at least we're working on the stages of grief and letting go, I guess.
Our local synagogue still only allows vaccinated people inside. Still. I cannot believe it. Our more orthodox one never worried about any of that from the get go. It’s a strange strange world at the moment. Happy Passover!
im in the uk, i had the covid 2 weeks back, was ill for 2 days. unjabbed. i got ill again this week.
(only ill for 3 days in total cos i take high doses of liposomal vitamin c) but i think i aught to point out that at no point did i get a test or tell a doctor so i wonder how many unjabbed like me are not reporting and altering the picture
I’ve had this same thought. Additionally, how many of us have been exposed to Covid but never had any symptoms. We simply developed immunity and went on with our lives.
We are in the US. I’m pretty sure they are at the point if just making up data, and that started about March 2020. My husband, kids, and I had a Covid party in January to get it over with (traveling and living normally wasn’t working), and all very mild, we didn’t report to any tracking or get a 3rd party test until the antibody test after we were over it.
That said, at least in the US, we know a ton of both jabbed and unjabbed people who just use a bunch of home test and never report it. It has been our experience that our jabbed friends are getting much sicker than unjabbed, but these back to back Covid infections don’t seem to have hit here yet (for anybody we know).
I do have questions about the quality of data elsewhere (I know it’s crap here). I think the actual v reported is probably a huge issue, but on both sides. Plenty of vaccinated people don’t want to “contribute to the narrative” the vaccines don’t work , even as one of my friends got stupid insanely sick before getting treatment back during Delta because she had been fully vaccinated 4 months (she’s obese). They are having trouble accepting it’s not “narrative” - the stupid shots don’t work in reality. The only fake “narrative” is the claims they work.
How did we get to the point of defending the pharma industry over our own health & well being?
Why are we trusting a company (Pfizer) who in 2009 was charged with the largest health care FRAUD settlement in the history of the Department of Justice and paid $2.3 Billion to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from the illegal promotion of certain pharmaceutical products?
I wonder that often. Covid is far from the first disaster-for-profit in pharmaceuticals. I really don’t understand those who didn’t sort of instinctively question the narrative as soon as data emerged showing these things cause harm and don’t appear to work.
It’s like outcomes don’t matter if one can convince themself there is no such thing as objective reality. The ideology appears to enable those who buy it to habitually ignore actual outcomes.
I think that is why it is also frequently the same people promoting big pharma subscriptions that result in demonstrable IQ drops, sterilization, and life long health issues on the basis of “feelings” around gender in children. Any sane person would point out that girls wanting to play with trucks, or boys with dolls, negates the stereotype. Those gullible to big pharma funded activists have become helplessly convinced of the insanity these preferences “really” negates immutable biology. 😩. Their answer isn’t to re-examine their own obcession with child gender stereotypes, as anyone who does quickly recognizes close to zero children really fit into any stereotype completely. Instead they convince kids who stray too from the stereotypes to destroy the only body they will ever get long before a child’s brain is developed enough to appreciate the long term consequences. Even though the claim “if you don’t affirm your kid will kill themselves” has been proven false, it’s still the narrative thrown out as if it’s a fact at everyone in opposition to child genital mutilation.
I have also noticed many of the Covidians think of those in Appalachia as “stupid hillbillies.” In reality many people in Appalachia were early adopters of big pharma subscription plans, narcotics, and the result has been the destruction of countless lives. I wish more would consider the actual outcomes of previous recent pharma subscription plans.
The clear harm from handing out narcotics like candy is now evident to nearly everyone - even the doctors who spent decades peddling the prescriptions and repeating the lie they aren’t addictive. Europe is figuring out the same applies to puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and child gender mutilation surgeries as more countries there move to ban the procedures on children. I fear the Covidians will eventually learn the same devastating lesson that often comes too late.
Unfortunately too many people buy the fallacy that big pharma can provide magic pills to make their problems and fears disappear. While there are real miracles if modern medicine, magic pills mostly aren’t reality. How many more people will destroy themselves and their children trying to avoid the unavoidable realities of life?
I think there is a correlation between those who believe in climate change and those who believe in the covid narrative. Superseeds facts, science, and data. Perhaps taking the place of religion.
I liken it to a Far Side cartoon which made fun of teaching vets how to treat horses. Every malady suffered by a horse was to be treated by shooting the horse.
Every malady, every perceived problem, (covid, "global warming" etc ) is to be treated with the creation of authoritarian government.
Horses in cartoons get treated with just as much nuance as they would apply to human beings.
Well stated. To a large extent, the problem is that people believe that (say) if some diseases can be cured or at least well medicated, then by extension ALL maladies must also be so. The idea that there are limits to what can be achieved in the real world at reasonable or even exhorbitant cost, are anathema to these idealists.
I think many people are trust Big Pharma because the constant media drumbeat of "death, death and death from covid" psychologically traumatized them, and the injections were there way out of the death spiral and a supposed way back to "normalcy."
Combine something called Terror Management Theory with Mass Formation Psychosis and I think you have a good idea of where many people in the world are today.
I would also say that most people are out of shape and don’t really think two seconds before ingesting whatever, so was a vaccine that hadn’t been tested really that big of a leap for them?
Because most people believe whatever they are told. It’s so sad. There is no critical thought.
My husband is a partner at a large audit firm and you’d think people there would think critically, or at least would be used to being skeptical. They make fun of him because he’s not boosted (most don’t know he’s not vaccinated either).
I assume your "we" is not present company. In defense of Pharma, they've produced many fine drugs over the decades that actually save life and improve health. Of course, we at least think that the Covid-19 "vaccines" were not one such product, indeed a glaring example of the traditional system(s) betrayed. It's worth repeating that, almost unique in perhaps our lifetimes, the defense of Covid-19 dogma (e.g. that the vaccines work) involves far more than just Pharma: also many government offices, media and so forth. Lots of special interests, not only billionaires and huge corporations, but also your local petty tyrant or even medical professional who drank the Kool-Ade, are caught in the spider web and will defend the lies until...well, I'm not sure how far they'll go.
Not everyone "drank the Kool-Aid"---I think there were many bribes to keep the the scam glued together.
Rebel News discovered via an access to information document that the Public Health Agency of Canada diverted $14 million from vaccine procurement to combatting “mis/disinformation.” In other words, funding propaganda.
The past 2 years has been an education in many areas, including the realization that my government is my enemy.
(39 yo unvaxxed CAN) I literally have COVID right now and used quercetin and zinc this morning. I felt better within an hour. It's anecdotal, but I'm much happier. My tests are getting darker yesterday vs today, so we'll see what tomorrow brings. I've been using daily iodine in a nasal spray as well in the mornings.
The anti-depressant seems to work at least as well.
We can get Ivermectin prescriptions from local pharmacies where I live, but in places attacking doctors for it, the other early treatments haven’t gotten that much attention from the political Covidians.
NO. I can get it shipped to a U.S. address, but currently I am FORBIDDEN to get on an aeroplane, train or boat - by OUR DEAR LEADER here in Canada 🇨🇦. I essentially cannot leave the country - stuck behind THE MAPLE LEAF CURTAIN 🍁! ALL because I will not medical orders from a former part time drama teacher!
With you on that one. There are another 6 million of us in the same position. The travel mandate is just another form of coercion (illegal per the Nuremberg Code). There is no science to support it as the vaxxed spread the infection. Even Teresa Tam at the start of this said that travel bans were pointless. If it was Trump (or even Stephen Harper) who did it the Liberals and their supporters would be screaming racist epithets from the rooftops all across the country.
Yes - and thank God for former Newfoundland Premier BRIAN PECKFORD - who with THE JUSTICE CENTRE FOR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM has this in court. He has stated he will follow this to the Supreme Court of Canada.
You can try. There is a 80-20 chance it will be impounded by customs at the point of import. Not worth the risk. It's as bad as flying a Canadian flag from your truck.
I did not report - and I will NEVER submit to a test. I'm opting out of the game entirely. I was sick last September and the ONLY reason I suspect I had this virus was my sense of smell was GAWN! Recovered at home with THE ZELINSKI PROTOCOL.
Smell loss (anosmia) can be caused by other respiratory viruses, not just SARS-CoV-2. Influenza, or even a common cold, can damage the olfactory nerve.
I caught a mild case of flu in January 2018, near the end of a week-long cruise. Completely lost sense of smell about 5 days after the headache and fever began. Didn't have nasal congestion or runny nose. Smell began to return within a week, mostly back to normal at 3-4 months (coffee took 18 months to come back).
Lost smell again with OG COVID November 2020. Returned completely within 6-8 weeks, but had a few smells that weren't right (parosmia). Took more than a year for that to resolve.
Never in my life have I lost taste or smell with any illness until Covid. Nor have family members. So while it may happen, it must have been rare, whereas with Covid it was the hallmark thing.
Post-viral anosmia isn't super common, but not one in a million, either. I think the incidence of all types of anosmia is about 5% in the general population--people who have had a head injury and torn the nerve loose, people whose olfactory nerve was damaged by medicines, chemicals (remember Zicam gel?) or surgery, people who have severe nasal polyps. Gradual loss of smell with no obvious cause can even be a sign of impending Parkinson's disease or dementia.
People don't talk about it, because no one who hasn't had anosmia understands the weirdness:
"Oh, I had a bad stuffy nose for a few days with a cold once. I know just how you feel." No, you don't.
"I don't believe you. Here, can you smell this?" as they shove something under your nose.
"Wow, I bet you're glad you can't smell [insert noxious odor here]." Not a good tradeoff for no longer being able to smell flowers, and cut grass, and for my food having zero flavor except for sweet, salty, bitter, sour, and savory.
"Just quit whining. Be glad you didn't lose an important sense like hearing or sight." Being able to smell spoiled food, or natural gas, or something burning, is kind of important, don't you think?
But yes, post-viral anosmia is much more common with COVID than with flu or colds. It seems to be less severe and resolve sooner in most people, from what I've heard, Though I know a few personally who still don't have their sense of smell back a year or more after recovering from COVID, and they won't do the smell training or take the supplements that might help.
I learned about smell training from a British registered charity (I guess that's like a U.S. non-profit?) called AbScent. Their web site is abscent . org. The few studies that have been done on smell training do show some benefit for post-viral anosmics, but there are no guarantees.
Smell training is kind of like physical therapy for the olfactory nerve. It's worth trying if they can smell anything at all, even if it's distorted. They say to give it at least four months of daily or twice-daily sessions (about 5 minutes each).
It's mindful smelling of a few strong scents, one at a time, while thinking about what each scent is supposed to smell like. Essential oils are usually used, since they're such concentrated sources of scent. You don't have to fork out for expensive oils; I got mine at places like Vitamin Shoppe and Amazon. The AbScent web site gives details on how to smell train, and what scents to start with, and sells kits for people who don't want the bother of putting together their own.
AbScent doesn't promote supplements. I used a few that I found through online research, that had at least a study or two to back them up, or that other people had used successfully. Alpha lipoic acid, nigella sativa (black seed oil), ginkgo biloba, and lion's mane, all in the doses recommended on the bottle. I took them all simultaneously, after checking for interactions.
Some people get improvement from steroid nasal sprays such as Nasonex (mometasone) or Flonase (fluticasone), which decreases inflammation in the nasal passages. Others find that a course of oral steroids temporarily brings back their sense of smell. Vitamin A nose drops available in Europe (Coldistop or Coldastop) have helped some people. These are discussed on the AbScent site.
I was of the same mind, but when my (vaxxed) husband brought Covid into the house and I then got sick, he suggested -- and I think wisely -- that getting a positive test result from a 3rd party vendor might have some value in case some gov't requires proof of vax OR prior Covid. (And I know lots of people think we're done w/ vax passports, but I don't believe that.)
If I have understood you, you did not get a test, so how do you know your infection was CoVid? It shares the same symptoms as other respiratory viruses. In fact the NHS has increased the symptoms list its ace operatives say are caused by CoVid.
It is very unusual to get a symptomatic respiratory disease twice within three weeks, particularly from the same virus.
Home testing. In the US most people are doing that now. Based on our hospitalization numbers, Covid is still around. Based on positive tests from 3rd parties, not at all. Only non home tests get reported.
Parts of the US have lagged the UK by 2-4 weeks throughout the whole Covid insanity. I suspect that remains true, but readily available $8 home test are easier and widely embraced. Your doc can call in prescriptions to treat Covid based on your symptoms or the results of a home test, but that doesn’t get reported or make it into public data infection numbers.
I personally see everyone avoiding the 3rd party (aka not home) testing for a variety of reasons. I don’t see a correlation to the shots. Those of us unvaccinated have mostly never played the Covid game, while the vaccinated don’t want a test result going to a kids’ school or employer or whatever. People seem to be getting tested by 3rd parties for travel, work, school, special events, etc....... notably not for actual symptoms. 😂
i answered this below, i spent time in the company of those that tested positive and were actually ill when i visited. with regards to reinfection, i have been working to my limit, physically hard and didnt give my body enough recovery time. testing is something that everyone jumps on but historically doctors do diagnosis by symptoms, i dont get the Flu, not ever. this was covid as sure as im typing here
Likely a result of the same infection. Either sars-cov-2 hides out. and then comes out again to fire up the immune system, or (more likely) it causes a bit of immunosuppression which allows other infections to flare up a week or 2 after covid is over. I got this 2 weeks after covid.
The effect on the stats are interesting. Where I am many un jabbed still need to get testing every 2 days in order to go to work so contribute tot eh stats. But then recently the vaccinated have been rushing to get tested too as they have lost confidence in the vaccines
good question, i know exactly who i got it off, they were jabbed friends who did get tested. by the way how did doctors ever diagnose an illness without a test before this pandemic? symptoms!
The tests are mostly bullshit with way too many false positives. But with pretty much the same symptoms for cold and omicron, you can’t really differentiate between the two. This is why flu cases were said to be so low last year, they just reclassified them as COVID.
Or a host of other things. Stress, toxins, malnutrition, radiation poisoning. We need to begin expanding our understanding of what makes us ill. Is it really a viral pathogen?
Do you think the antibody tests are accurate? I think I had covid 2/2021. Didn’t take a test. Allergies I thought but then I lost my smell & taste for 3+ weeks. Total loss, like my nose and tongue had been removed. I took an antibody test a month later and it was +.
if it was a toxin then you would expect to see an uptick in polio type illnesses, polio really doesnt exist and is just toxic build up, like guillain barre syndrome, oh wait thats whats happening to the jabbed!
I’ve had mild Covid at least twice when my husband had it. I tested negative both times even though my husband tested positive. Had Omicron in January, so did my husband. He tested positive and I tested negative. I had to test for T-Cell antibodies which proved I had Covid. I apparently don’t have B-cell antibodies so had to pay over $200 for a test. This just confirms that those PCR tests are useless.
I don't think it alters the picture because it's already lopsided the other way. People with religious and medical exemptions are being made to test twice a week here in the U.S. and I am guessing similar dynamics occur in the UK.
So you actually would get an outsized number of unvaxxed testing positive because they don't make the vaxxed test.
My spouse has to test twice a week. His company said they will fire any unvaccinated employee who does not. I encouraged him to not put the swab in his nose, but blow onto a tissue and swab that for his home tests and at least that makes it feel less invasive.
I wonder the same thing. I won't test if I am sick. My daughter,32, and son in law, 26, who live with me, test every time they are sick. They haven't tested positive yet, but can you really trust home tests? (Both are boosted, unfortunately, but they don't seem to have health problems yet, except my daughter had some period problems after the first two.) My husband, 71, had the Pfizer shots, but is not boosted. (He didn't listen to me either!) He has had so many adverse events... From stroke like symptoms, to tremors and feeling like electricity is "thrumming" through his body, to cognitive issues. He has had every test under the sun and they all come back normal. He is not able to function all the time and had to retire from his job. My other daughter is on the same page as I am... Not taking any experimental vaccines!
Same. I think this must be true across the board. Are people who have resisted thus far seriously going to be testing at rates near those of the covidians? If at all?!!! Doubt it.
My family (three young kids) and I had in Jan of 21. Long story short, we tested with a private facility who was testing their employees (bio lab). We got Covid again Jan 22. My 64 year old mom got it, as well as my brother (but possibly not his family). I know this because my husband gets his antibodies tested every quarter (or so) and in February his antibody levels were off the charts.
My mom had a horrible headache, chills and fever for 2 days. Then a mild headache for 4 days and by day 8 was pretty much back to normal.
My 34 year old brother was quite sick but none of his family got sick. (They may have had it previously…not sure).
My husband was quite Ill the first time. I was ok. I’d call it a bad cold. The second time I had the worst headache and similar symptoms as the first time but not as long. Ive had lower energy since and I don’t think my heart is working properly (I should probably get it checked out…my feet have started to swell at night). I am an extremely healthy person otherwise and have ooodles of energy normally.
My husband was not very sick the second time. The kids were barely sick the first time but my oldest daughter who is 8 was much sicker the second time, as well as my youngest who is now almost 3. My middle who usually gets the sickest was fine.
My dad and his gf were around us and were supposed to go to Mexico for vacation and postponed three days until my dad was felt better. His gf felt tired once they got there but that’s it. They were there for 8 days and she tested positive when they were trying to fly home.
Covid sucks. Everything about it, around it, all of it. Designed to destroy us all either with the vaccines, the virus or the response to it.
(We’re all unvaccinated. And outside of the test to get back into the country we’ve never been tested.)
I can sympathize with your second statement. Of the Cardinal Sins, I epitomize Sloth. I would do something about it, but you can understand my dilemma... 🤡
I don't really, but I have to say I have never had such a profound loss of sense of smell. Also, the symptoms were very odd - everything that had even a bit of sugar tasted sickeningly sweet, my hair fell out, I NEEDED to be outside in fresh air and preferably in sunshine. Slept alot. I was treating it at home - and it was over in about 6 days.
similar yes, but my exposure was to people that were tested also the other factor is virus behaviour. there is always a dominant strain and its currently covid
Ours were bizarre and different. All very mild but different. The kids got headaches. The younger one 6 hours with a fever. The older one about a day and behind her eyeballs hurt. My husband got a very sudden 102degree temp and said everything tasted like metal. He had weakness and was freezing for 2 days. I didn’t have any “symptoms” aside from being so tired physically I literally laid on the floor in front of an open window with sunshine for 7 hours. First I’m ADHD and second I work out everyday. This wasn’t like sleepy tired or 3 hour tennis match tired. It was like I couldn’t lift my own head I was so weak tired. It was so weird.
I can’t 100% “know” it was Covid. All we know if crazy number of positive home tests. We’d been tested a bunch before for international travel and events and all negative. We didn’t report the positive test anywhere, but added to antibody tests in late February to other testing. Antibodies very positive. Getting the same blood work done in October 2021 we were all very negative. The blood work is from switching to an integrative health practice.
It's crazy. I still have family members who maintain that the only way to get 'back to normal' is to get everyone vaccinated. Even though they are getting covid. It is a bitter irony that they might well be prolonging the pandemic and facilitating more potent variants that put themselves at greater risk. And for what? Vaccinating the vulnerable and elderly wasn't enough of a market share so they had to expand to every living thing on planet earth.
Those who sees things through the lens of terrain theory have been saying the same thing as Bossche. The difference is you don't have to posit the existence of a virus to see the same effects.
Injecting toxins (quackcines) into people will increase their toxic load. Some will become ill right away, others may take longer, and still others will see no apparent effect. Over time the toxic load will manifest itself if a person cannot match the rate of detox. This is why we see a variety of responses.
Exactly. That is on top of a very long list of other toxins we are exposed to and have been exposed to in the past. Dr. Minkoff in Clearwater, FL. says every person he tests has toxic levels of lead and glyphosate to name only two.
Have you looked up into the skies recently? Chemtrails/cloud seeding are constant. I suspect the positive “Covid” diagnosis could be detoxing from so many toxins. I’m starting to doubt the viral contagion theory.
Resonance is very possible. People in close proximity may also be exposed to other things in common, such as air, water, food, environmental contaminants, stress, etc. They may also have similar dietary habits which leads to similar nutrient deficiencies.
Many of these may be causing slow but definite harm and the diversion of a virus leads to a misdirection of resources as well as a lack of investigating the true sources of harm.
Some of these sources are difficult to deal with, as it requires a major shift in how we allocate resources and how we do things. One example of this is using the cheapest possible ingredients like white sugar, white flour and white salt and calling it food. I would call that entertainment, which might be fine, but only if you are also getting all the daily nutrients you need, not at the cost of lacking all the daily nutrients you need.
Metabolic disorder is a serious problem and not one that can be solved by a public health authority. It requires each person to take responsibility for their health, not placing the blame on an unproven virus and allowing people who do not have any interest in your wellbeing dictate how you should live and what goes into your body.
It's worth mentioning: (For USA) pharma had heavy restrictions upon advertising until late 1990s (1997 IIRC?) Broadly speaking, from ~ 1980 onward, there was greater freedom in the sense that previously restricted professions were allowed to advertise. It may sound unbelievable, but only a few decades back, physicians and attorneys were forbidden nearly all advertising. This, combined with removal of many restrictions on ownership of newspapers, TV, radio, etc. led to a de-facto consolidation of the mass media. Also the removal of all limits on campaign advertising. Of course, the rise of the internet and new forms of [social] media, essentially with no legal limitations upon them at all, are another huge (and new) factor. People, especially those not born before ~ 1980, probably cannot fully appreciate (and certainly did not witness) the enormous changes in media in just a generation's time.
"this risk finds uneasy confluence with the oddly strident push, especially in the US, to claim that “long covid” is causing so many of the bad outcomes that look to stem from vaccines and increasingly VFS"
I noted the exact same meme starting to be pushed starting about 2 weeks ago, and in multiple media outlets here in the mainland US. I have been worried since about last Summer that it might turn out that raising an immune response to a single protein of a virus would inhibit the the raising of an immune response to the rest of the particle in an infection with an evolved variant. There is a ton of stuff we don't know about how the immune system works, and we went an injected half the planet with these single protein vaccines. Colossal stupidity is the only description I have for it.
It seems to me that ‘long Covid’ is brought up periodically as a fearmongering tactic. Whenever I’d try to discuss the shot or Covid19 with folks, they’d reply, “but, Long Covid!” 🙄
Early on though it was found that the vaccines did nothing to prevent long covid. That was the one thing I was concerned most for. And Ivermectin DID prevent long covid.
The Democrats, in their continuing attempt to upset the world, and invert the meaning of things, have evidently changed vaccine from an immunity to something entirely different. I wish I was a cat, and could find a warm place in the sun, and not give a damn.
Here's where being stuck in the "Covid" narrative is a trap.
There is not now nor has there ever been an epidemiological or viral emergency event of any sort anywhere in the world in the year 2020. The manufactured perception that there was such an event is an artifact of mass media manipulation, behavioral conditioning techniques and social engineering.
What is currently happening is that the mRNA injections are vaporizing the immune system creating all sorts of illnesses not "Covid being enabled by the vaccines."
"Covid" itself is not a unique disease and never was. It's a catch-all set of symptoms that was invented to gin up fear.
All of the exaggerated and repeated fear-based messages from the media and government agencies these past two years were just part of the advertising campaign for the pharmaceutical industry’s newest lucrative product. Without the fear-mongering propaganda campaign no one would’ve noticed anything unusual about the last two flu seasons because there was nothing unusual, except for the criminal, murderous, and utterly unscientific lockdown policies in response to the non- existent threat.
"Covid-19" was simply the flu re-branded (the "flu" itself is problematic for a number of reasons) and was used as a terror campaign to execute financial and policy goals.
“Covid” is used as cover for crashing the economies in the Western world. There is not now and never has been a “pandemic”- that is all Kabuki theater to disguise the reality of the rapid economic decline brought on by the Ponzi Schemes of financial institutions over the past few decades.
As long as “new variants lurk right around the corner”, public health bureaucrats and pandemic profiteers can invent the next “health emergency” to impose more shutdowns for any “viral event” that conveniently suits their political and financial aims.
Need to get off the "Covid" crazy train altogether- it's a fiction.
What the hell was Ralph Baric doing with all those grants then? And what about the Wuhan Institute for Virology? I suppose you'll tell us that "gain of function" is all made-up too. But if DARPA believes in that stuff, I think it's foolish to just dismiss it all out of hand.
Of course there is psychological warfare. Quite likely that's the major part of all this, especially we lump in regulatory capture, weaponized public health bureaucracies, and the usual political-economic shenanigans. But that doesn't mean that there's no such thing as a bioweapon.
Transmissible viruses do not have to exist to explain why anyone would engage in the study and development of harmful biological agents. The development of means to kill people has been ongoing for centuries.
This makes a tremendous amount of sense. I recall a video of a medical researcher from Stanford (? I think) who, with a group of other researchers, petitioned the CDC, et. al. to give them a vial of the actual COVID virus. What the researcher was seeing, and he said as much, was many incidences of influenza A and the more virulent B strains during 2020. Obviously, he wanted to compare them to the COVID virus. Not surprisingly, he never got a reply.
And, I would posit that the medical-industrial complex brought the whole thing upon themselves. Maybe they should have worried more about keeping their credibility instead of fear mongering.
Well, OK. Maybe it was a hoax. Then again, maybe it was AP and Johns Hopkins reasserting The Narrative. Hard to tell when there’s so much “he-said, she-said” information floating around. It’s true that anyone can make a video under whatever name they want. It’s also true that medicos and scientists can use the cover of their institutions to write papers and studies that are fraudulent, but are treated with legitimacy because they are branded with those institutions’ names. One thing for sure: the public trust in any kind of medical institution is being destroyed.
The average "fact check" is really just a snow job. And there is a lot of biased fake science and generally just shoddy work that gets promoted and endorsed by the propaganda machine.
But, this is a war. And one of the oldest tricks in the book is to put out verifiably false information and attribute it to your enemy. Maybe you've heard the term "false flag" before?
I didn't bother tracking down the actual video you referenced, but I've seen it. The guy makes some specific claims, and drops some specific names. Anyone can check those, it just takes a little effort. I'd encourage anyone to counter-fact-check the AP on this, or anything else. But please, don't just believe every viral video you see just because it seems to support your favored narrative.
You are so right about false information. Another writer on another topic (The war in Ukraine) made the very valid case that one could often validate claims or at least approach the truth closer by accessing what he called second and third level information. In other words, just doing some reading and research on the internet. One example I probably didn't invent, but is an easy example is this one: Where does the WHO obtain its funding? You'd be forgiven for thinking it's an impartial government (UN) agency. Detailed funding information is given on its very own web site. Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation > 10%, really? Well then, you might check on BMGF. This might take more digging, but you would find (at least according to others) that while they claim to be about promoting various health programs, well yes they do seem to have ownership of such things as vaccine makers. Now, all the above and more doesn't necessarily prove that Bill Gates is intent on reducing world population or whatever, but it sure does seem odd that tax-free foundations are involved in the creation of medicines for profit and then buying influence to guide policy to promote the use of such products.
If there's a moral in the above, it would probably be "Spend less time watching videos and reading articles of dubious credibility. Instead, do some background checking using publicly available data and see conclusions that will point to."
I don’t. I also know about “false flag operations.” I actually tried to find that video to check some of the guy’s claims, but by the time I had a chance to look it up, it was either taken down or buried.
It also makes sense because none of us heard or saw one thing about the 2020 flu season being worse than usual. Flu? What flu? There is no flu. There is only COVID.
"playing further definitional games is unlikely to be able to hide an outcome of such magnitude. just like everyone noticed that all their vaxxed friends got covid, they’re going to notice this too."
One would think but it's hard to bet on common sense when the original rationale for mandates was that jabs would stop the spread & keep the vaccinated from getting or spreading Covid yet mandates still face paltry resistance. It would be impossible to believe if we did not see with our own eyes just as top athletes drop like flies and media spins it as rare but normal occurrence.
I think it would be really good if the unelected fourth branch of US government that apparently rules the other three branches and all of the rest of us would be required to give a rational, data-supported answer to the question of why fifteen fully vaccinated tennis players were unable to finish the Miami Open this week.
Did that information even travel outside Miami? I don't watch TV, so I don't know if the people with socks in their ears would have been exposed to this interesting tidbit and, perhaps, wondered why.
There are non-Covid/non-vax explanations for almost all the tennis players who withdrew or retired at this tournament: Jannik Sinner had blisters on his feet, a female Belarusian tennis player had personal life issues. And so on and so forth. I actually attended the first weekend of this tournament in person. Nobody retired in front of me. On the contrary, Sinner played and won a very physical match in an earlier round.
"There are non-Covid/non-vax explanations for almost all the tennis players who withdrew or retired at this tournament." Nearly verbatim from the fact-check site! But this curious curiosity remains: WHY was there a confluence of such debilitating events at this tournament of the healthiest people on the planet with the best tennis equipment on the planet?
At the time I took a look at an article on this issue and it looked to me like almost all the players had orthopedic type injuries, not typical vaxx injuries. It was blisters for Sinner. Crying wolf unnecessarily is bad policy when the forests are filled with packs of them!
Whether the article mentions vaccines or not, this unprecedented list of injuries among young healthy world class tennis players deserves some serious inquiry - and it will not receive it. In the absence of that, rational people will come to logical conclusions.
I was a bit suspicious: Not a sports fan, but after a few minutes search, I confirmed that a large number of people quit in the Open, and the number fifteen is specifically mentioned. You can't get much more mainstream than Google or Yahoo for news.
I saw a passing remark with regards to this. I was paying attention to the tourney in Australia where Djokovic was forced to withdraw but I don't remember anything unusual such as this.
I've been given hell by very many people who accused me of falling under the influence of 'the dark side' on vaccination: should they happen to fall ill I would have to zip my mouth to stop laughing, but if they should happen to die I would genuinely miss them all: because they are not really bad people, they merely thought the science was on their side and failed to interrogate it with sufficient critical thinking or analysis. Arrogant and supercilious, yes. But not loathesome.
They are mostly bright people, computer software engineers, one or two teachers and even a top nurse manager, but I am the only one of them who studied Public Health Management, and it taught me to be very, very wary of any promises made by Big Pharma or the Media, and to have a total disrepect of elected policians.
1) Will poor immune response be limited to the CoV 2 family, or other respiratory viruses or other pathogens whether viral or bacterial?
2) ‘ even the folks i know who were still saying “thank goodness i got boosted it made my second time catching covid milder than it would have been!” are not going to be OK getting it a third time (as many vaccinated seem to be starting to be) and the fact that this is not happening to the unjabbed will get noticed, esp in the US. there is still a significant control group.’
Does this explain the incomprehensible continued push by Govts for people to get vaccinated to eliminate the non-vaxxed control group or the ‘just’ double vaxxed as a comparison group so comparisons cannot be made?
1. The poor immune response to covid specifically is due to priming the immune system to bypass innate & go directly to adaptive with a single type of antibody aimed at the most mutagenic part of the virion. The poor response to everything else is that the jabs suppress production of parts of the innate system (eg CD-8 cells, aka t-killers) that surveil & take out cancers just as they start and suppress things like herpes & shingles. Plus toxic spikes cause all kinds of problems, such as chronic generalized inflammation.
2. Yes. The government & pfizer are clearly trying to eliminate the control group. We are healthy, walking advertisements for their lies.
Eliminating the control group is part of it. That part is doomed to failure as there is enough resistance unless they start going door to door or make life so miserable that people give up.
Remember when Bill Gates wanted Windows on every desktop computer? Now it is a jab in every arm. Who is one of the world's biggest promoters of quackcination? Coincidence?
They need a certain number of people to run the machinery of the world. Beyond that, yes, they could be clearing out what they consider to be deadwood. What that number is, I have no idea, but so far the death rate does not tell us how well their plan is progressing, it is still a guessing game.
Definitely. You need a strong immune system to fight cancer and other serious diseases. I think people forget that. My fully vaccinated 50 yr old daughter has a small benign growth in her brain. No idea how long it’s been there but she has been monitored at times. I’m very afraid what may happen. She is all about the jab. Lives on Long Island NY so the indoctrination has worked.
I was also going to say Biden is already pushing a “long Covid” narrative that may be allowed as a basis for “disability” which will equal more crushing taxes to pay for it & a ton of potential for fraud, given how unspecific the growing list of “symptoms” is getting. All sorts of things that could be (& probably are) more attributable to other things but now included for WuFlu.
Also wondering how this will shake out societally - w/ the now majorly compromised duped being jealous &/or really angry at we who are not, & insisting on further mandates & ostracization from regular life unless we join the misery they inflicted on themselves
It depends on what people are offered coming out of this. i am looking for work right now. It is weird how the farther up you are on the ladder, the less they care. Entry level at the dollar store they test you twice a shift. Executive secretary, they don't ask. It is a class war...;
There is nothing like government action to warrant more government action. For some reason, damaging government actions warrant more government action as well...
This is exactly what Geert Vanden Bossche said from the beginning would happen.
Geert's recent paper if you haven't seen it. https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/616004c52e87ed08692f5692/6244c3b09ad5701f3ec17765_GVB_s%2Banalysis%2Bof%2BC-19%2Bevolutionary%2Bdynamics.pdf
“… the virus will in a next step most likely evolve to also increase its virulence, thereby causing a dramatic rise in cases of severe disease (ADED) and death in vaccinees.”
YIKES!
Thank you for sharing that link. What a bleak prospect. Looking more likely by the day unfortunately.
I want it to be wrong. My immediate family is happily unvaccinated, but a lot of people I live got the initial “vaccine.” About half of those went in for round 3. A few round 4. 🤦♀️. I give up on the round 4 folks because there is no curing stupid, to a lesser extent round 3, but a crap ton were lied to (old people who got the shots 1st), or coerced with mandates, and chronic Covid and death is a harsh sentence. I already know 8 young children who lost their dads, and another half a dozen between 50 and 70 who dropped dead even though all but one was extremely healthy.
This whole mess was preventable. It’s evil these shots are being pushed on anyone, but especially cruel when forced on the mostly already immune young and healthy. 💔
Ignorance, gullibility, or lack of options alone shouldn’t be a sentence for serious health problems.
What I fear the most is that whatever happens with the infection or reinfection rate of the vaccinated, Fauci, Biden, MSM, and other clueless health leaders are going to opt for blaming the unvaccinated for the failures of the vaccine. Blaming the unvaccinated would likely be the choice that highly vaccinated groups will buy. This gross misunderstanding could lead to forced vaccination, even approved by the highly vaccinated and boosted US Supreme Court. Only God knows where this is going.
Well, you are probably correct because the Supreme Court is dumb and is apparently getting dumber with each new addition. (Can you define what a woman is? 'D'uh.)
My parents did round 4, before it was even authorized, and I can assure you there's no cure. It's really sad but I just could not stop them. Believe me I tried. I would not be surprised if they do #5, since I unfortunately mentioned to them that #4 wears off in a month or 2.
Unfortunately they believe in "science" and get their information from reputable sources.
How can it be that you know so many who died? I'm not necessarily doubting what you've saying, but it seems statistically unlikely. Most of us probably don't know of anyone.
This isn’t meant to be overly harsh, but I’m not talking about because I care who believes me online (in real life the conversation are with other people and there are funerals and an obituaries so there isn’t disbelief though there is shock). Believe whatever makes sense to you.
Our experience is why we personally went from not wanting to rush out and get an experimental shot we didn’t need, to being so opposed to getting one it would take a heck of a lot more coercion than the threat of jobs and travel to get us to take it. First hand experience is rather motivating.
We also don’t go around intentionally get ourselves infected with any viruses as a general rule, yet we did on this one because it buys even more time from coercion since we can prove (as well as anyone can) recent infection via antibody test that were very negative late fall 2021x and very positive late February 2022. We intentionally waited until natural immunity was more widely acknowledged even though it should have been the default from early on because humans have grasp the concept for thousands of years. We never tried to avoid the virus, but we waited on having a Covid party until it seemed to be our best shot at more protection from mandates and coercion (even if buying time to figure out next steps to plan ahead).
Our jobs create a pretty wide net of friends and people we know, I grew up where we live, we are involved in the community, and we keep in touch with friends we were close with throughout our lives from all over. Having kids seems to always create a much larger social group, though the guys with young kids we know that dropped dead don’t have anything to do with our kids - the connection pre-dates their birth in 2 cases, and is through my brother-in-law in the other. We don’t have social media so we communicate a lot the good old fashion way - person to person. We live a pretty good life and are fortunate to know lots of people. I’m not sure if that’s a blessing or a curse at the moment. It’s certainly been heartbreaking and outright terrifying.
What we’ve seen first hand is why WE won’t touch these damn shots with a 50-foot pole. While I’d like to say we are motivated only by principle that medical coercion is wrong, and unnecessary for something genuinely safe and effective, the reality is we have faced coercion like everyone else, and our real life experience is likely what has solidified our willpower. It would take a whole lot more than threats of financial harm, or missing some events and travel, for us to risk our health over these things. It has freaked us out enough we have stopped ALL vaccines as a family, switched to an integrative health practice (which is very expensive), and started a paper trail to ensure we have a history of not taking vaccines if we ever need an exemption in the future, particularly for our children who are privately educated in a conservative Christian school that hasn’t ever imposed vaccine mandates and has always accepted broad religious exemptions to check boxes for the state. We are freaked out enough we are planning for years from now so colleges would have a much more difficult time rejecting religious exemptions for our kids, and paying a small fortune to an integrative medical practice to help with medical exemptions while establishing a long history of treatment.
I get a stranger online doesn’t have anywhere near enough information to really assess the statistical likelihood if someone knows too many people who have died this year, nor do the statistics change the reality we have dealt with first hand. Even though we do have a wide social net, we should NOT know this number of people in our social circles who have left life this past year without real explanation. It’s scary as hell.
3 fathers with 8 children under the age of 12 between them. Not 8 fathers.
I wouldn't be surprised if you do know some people with serious adverse effects. An older friend of ours came down with sudden congestive heart failure the month she took her shots. I noticed that of our mutual friends, we were the only ones who noticed the connection. Also, if you start having conversations, you hear things like "my uncle died the day after he was vaccinated, but they said there was no connection."
A guy in his 50s in our church who died suddenly of a heart attack, we knew he was double vaxxed and it was around the time everyone was getting boosters. Literally the last time my husband had spoken to him, he had a premonition and wanted to warn him to stop getting vaccinated further because my husband thought another shot was likely to kill him. But it's so easy to offend people and maybe there would be another chance to talk about it. But there wasn't.
No one we know mentioned the possibility it was the booster that killed him. It would seem rude at such a sad time, so this stuff flies under the radar and isn't looked into to find out one way or another.
My sister in law's family friend died the afternoon (after getting her shot that morning) while horseback riding.
And worst of all was the college age boy, my cousin's son's best friend, who died after getting vaccinated. That one hit me most because he had so few years he got to live and so much potential missed.
Anyways, I learned all these accounts through conversations or observations. Most (though not the college boy) are relatively easy to overlook if you aren't thinking about it actively.
I know 3 sudden fatal heart attacks, two of whom were low risk, middle aged women, and three stage 4 cancers at diagnosis. The cancer victims are still in treatment, but the diagnosis is still quite new for each of them, so the prognosis is uncertain.
I don't know you, and am not trying to be argumentative. But I can tell you I know 20 people who were most likely injured with another 8 that may have been injured. Of the 28, 8 are dead. I have 3 more friends who are suffering from Stage 4 cancer whom I don't expect to last the year.
And yes - my heart aches.
*love*
You need to go public. That's a lot of dead people. So sorry.
Not what I wanted to read. Tempting to have an 'omicron party' before the virus jumps into something more virulent, reminiscent of getting kids together to pass along chicken pox, that is if we knew anyone who had become infected recently. Hate to think where we would be had it not been for Omicron, just as many governments were pushing their most draconian programs. Certainly many who just love controlling others are waiting in the wings ready to pounce should a more dangerous variant emerge.
I hid for two years (I’m unjabbed) and decided to catch Omicron in February, by attending four parties in a week. My only symptoms were a purple toe and very stiff joints. I’m still stiff but I don’t regret infecting myself as I believed GvdB was correct from the moment I first heard him talk about the jabs. Unfortunately it looks like he was a true prophet of doom.
I really recommend people shouldn't try to catch covid without having Ivermectin and zinc and many other early treatment options on hand so as to prevent long term issues.
I’ve been taking zinc, vitamins C and D, quercetin and NAC for the past two years. I wouldn’t have tried to catch it without using these supplements. I’ve been on my own, in my home, for two years. That was killing me and I’m not prepared to live my life in that way an longer.
And don't forget high vitamin D levels.
Is the next step a virus that is more virulent, or the fact that quackcination has added to the toxic load of an already chronically ill population?
Occam's Razor (the simplest explanation is preferred) suggests we need not posit the existence of a virus to explain what we see happening.
The author said the former. Realistically, I think both. The vaccines themselves are toxic.
My biggest concern though is resulting cancer.
Dope up on toxins, sustained attack on the vaccinated immune systems, and they will not be able to keep precancerous cells in check.
If they thought covid was scary, what comes next will be horrific.
My biggest concern is belief in the existence of a transmissible virus will keep humanity in bondage by those who say they will keep us safe, and instead are ruining our lives.
The cancer issue is already huge. I know several such cases just in my small town circle. I've lost a couple friends already and it's just going to blossom over the next years. I'm with you! It's also my biggest concern.
Same here, young, healthy fully vaccinated friends suddenly being diagnosed with aggressive cancer, specifically lymphatic cancers.
This is what I'm seeing the most of now. (Most of the clotting / heart issues seem to have already happened.) Know 7 people fighting cancer. 4 are currently at stage 4. I think their prognosis for surviving this year or low, unfortunately.
Especially if you’re a provider of group life and disability products.
Vande Bossche says more virulent next. Mass death to follow. Could have been avoided. But it's also toxic since all cause mortality and excess deaths are indicating the vaccines are causing disease that are not being correlated to the vaccines. But they clearly are. People are dropping dead and that is NOT NORMAL.
How does he know this?
We are in utterly uncharted waters.
It’s too neat & tidy that the prediction of an obscure outcome using immunology that immunologists in the main don’t find plausible turns out precisely to be what has apparently happened...?
All my radars are sounding at the same time.
The author of the concern shows up mid-pandemic, having made no comment prior to that moment.
He’s ex-GAVI.
What am I supposed to think?
I don't recall when exactly he burst onto the scene but it was late 2020 - after you and experts like Bhakdi. Not sure if it was mid-stream. Yes, he's ex-GAVI but we should be careful on using it against him because these past two years I've watched him in numerous interviews (like yourself!) and read a lot of his work. His prognostications have seem to be more on cue than not. Of course he's just applying his knowledge to what he thinks this may all go. I can only go with the fact he did predict this would happen. Unless I'm mistaken. Cheers - and thanks for your fight!
Thanks. Although Geert needs a translator who can put his jargon into layman's terms. That shit gets deep; I have to read it 3 times.
"...non-neutralizing vaccinal Abs compete with relevant multi-specific innate Abs (i.e., IgMs) for binding to SC-2 as in both cases binding is thought to involve multivalent binding interactions"....I think what he means here is that naive, innate immune factors aren't specific ('trained") enough to compete with vaccinal antibodies, which are weak but at least are specifically targeted to SARS-CoV2's spike protein, and apparently attach to the virus at multiple points (like an octopus?), thus occupying binding points that immune factors might otherwise attack. In other words, elite innate-immunity army, a batallion of inept, newbie soldiery is blocking your access to the enemy.
Ivermectin is our finest friend, IMO. Binds to the Spike, effective against all variants.
But, good doctors better buck up, we look to be in for a bumpy ride.
You might enjoy the following pre-covid study on influenza. Alex Berenson pointed it out (not that his position was supported by the reference.) It's referring to original antigenic sin in influenza. And takes a look at how, not strictly old age, but age cohorts based on the variant circulating when they were first imprinted helped or hampered those same age groups during future outbreaks. It's as dense as Geert, but interesting. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13524-019-00809-y
Oh...Not Berenson at all. Reading....
Berenson AS dense as Geert? Seeing is believing; ADD or no ADD--I'll give it a read!
Hah, now that would have been funny.
I had wanted to learn the link to this study, having heard of it before. Thanks for sharing
Crickey! I had to pour a stiff scotch (Bruichladdich X4 Quadrupled)
before reading that one. Now I'm going to try to forget 50% of it for sanity's sake.
Almost as if he had inside information.
I don’t like anything about this whole situation. I’m suspicious.
No, it's just virology, not inside information. He and Didier Raoult said virtually the same thing from the beginning--that if you vaccinate into a pandemic with a very non-sterilizing vaccine, you are going to drive nasty variants. Others said so too. Both Vanden Bossche and Raoult have paid dearly for being honest about that information. Malone has said so too, but not from the beginning.
I agree it makes sense to do as they recommended.
I expect though that their concerns are theoretical, based on the belief you’ve summarised? That is, we have avoided doing that in the past?
I’m sceptical because there is substantial evidence that there isn’t a new virus circulating & killing large numbers of people.
In the claimed pandemic year, there is so much that’s inconsistent with a respiratory virus pandemic. Listen to Denis Rancourt interviewed by Jerm Warfare (Dec 6 2021).
I believe that “vaccines” are killing large numbers of people through at least two mechanisms:
1. Direct adverse effects of the “vaccines”
2. Indirect effects which may be secondary to immune suppression.
I agree about these vaccines wholeheartedly, but this is not a theoretical concern--this is basic virology based on how viruses mutate. That is why Didier Raoult (world's most cited virologist) laughed at the idea of the mRNA vaccines, because he knew they would be extremely non-sterilizing. It got him fired from his own virology institute that he founded in Marseille because of pressure from the French government. That and his advice to use HCQ, which he has gone on to use successfully on 10,000 COVID patients in Marseille, losing only a few patients over 80 and in frail health. There IS a new virus circulating, probably from a lab, but the survival rate is 99.85% worldwide. The virus has been isolated, so there is no doubt of its existence.
Covid is really different than anything I ever had before. Never in my life did I lose taste and smell with any illness before covid. Many people say food begins to smell like garbage. A unique symptom even though it faded with Omicron. I can't believe that Covid was not new
Same here. Olfactory epithelium and pericytes (speculating, but had blood pressure issues), 2 viral targets (ACE2 receptors). Weirdest "illness" I ever had. I called it an affliction, because "sick" didn't seem appropriate.
NEVER *completely* lost my sense of smell before in my 50 years. Luckily it only lasted ~10 days.
You might be right but anecdote is not data.
Many viruses affect smell & taste.
Did you know there are 60-200 (estimate) viruses which can infect human airways?
You’d have had a couple of dozen, tops.
I'm curious, why only a couple dozen? Covid spread so quickly around the world. Why not some of these other viruses that affect human airways? Maybe there isn't a good answer, but I'm interested if you know.
Hi Dr. Mike.
The leaked virus and leaky vaccine are examples of hybrid warfare.. key elements in a live exercise (pandemic simulation) to engineer a soft-landing for the collapse of Industrial Civilization due to diminishing EROI and other things hidden in complexity.
Immunity by subscription, digital ID, vaccine passports and ESGs/Social credit are a means to ration dwindling resources and restrict access/mobility and are recommended steps in the scripted narratives of live exercises, alliance symposiums and current policy initiatives. It's not a conspiracy if they admit it.
It would make sense that some prominent voices are useful to this reductionist, collectivist effort. Whether they are aware of it or not is a good question.
Wrench in the Gears by Allison McDowell had an early article suggesting the GBD and it's 3 prominent scientists are a form of controlled opposition considering that they were allowed to retain their positions whereas people like Mark Crispin Miller and other were censored.
With access to information and analysis of the whole situation (energy limits and things hidden in complexity), I've been putting as much time into preparing for collapse as I have been reading new perspectives on the virus and vaccine. I appreciate your efforts in this struggle. Thanks for reading!
Thanks for this interesting perspective. Each to their own stance. I’m not at all convinced that the perpetrators needed to do anything & furthermore, I believe the long run narratives around shortages are their work, including “climate change”. I do appreciate that we, useless eaters, are consuming “their” non-renewables & they and their descendants will have a nicer life if 90% of us disappear.
To my mind, they couldn’t admit what they’re doing for these reasons. There are alternative methods to rationing.
My goal had been to assist in preventing whatever it was that they were doing. Sadly, their calculations were ably done & we’ve been unsuccessful. The best that can be hoped for is to modify the time course to an extent. Personally I’m not interested in surviving the transition. Our preparations are therefore limited to creating time to choose how not to!
Ah yes, the rarely mentioned, but inescapable issue: there are hard limits to how large a population can grow. We already have chronic issues with 8 billion. It seems rather unlikely that matters will improve with 16 or 32 billion. Solutions will come. We may not like any of them, but the problem will be solved.
Alternatives to rationing? Regenerative farming, re-localization and some attempt at circular economy? Reduce debt, lower standard of living, voluntary poverty to resist? General strike? Maybe you can tell us how and who you trust in building resilience so we can buy some more time? Thanks!
I regret to confess I’m making no particular preparations.
I’m 62 & suffer chronic pain & an invisible disability that in combination make life quite difficult, even when everything is running well.
It’s an active decision not to seek to survive what’s coming, if it’s any of the handful of scenarios I envisage.
If freedom is truly lost, it’s not a world I want to survive in.
So I’ve absolutely not given up. If anything I would like you to see this for what it is: nothing to lose, so I’m definitely trying things I might not, if I was troubled about the future.
Sorry to hear about the medical issues Dr. Yeadon. You always have a pleasant smile on your face whenever I've seen you on video. Never would have guessed. If this is your idea of leaving it out on the field, it looks like courage to the rest of us! Thank you sir!
Could you get your doctor to prescribe low dose naltraxone? So helpful for a variety of chronic pain conditions. Great book available to read up on it if you search.
Hi, Dr.! Do you have children or grandchildren? Maybe you have nothing to lose but surely they do. I fight for my daughter, son-in-law, and granddaughter and all their still young friends. I could not live with myself if I didn't even though, because I had two jabs, I may not live that long. Still, I'm doing extremely well now and so I'm going at this with the mindset that the powers-that-be are going to be sorry they messed with us and lied to us. These vaccines never should have been released on us.
Thanks for your time. I like your suggestion on not giving up and trying new things. The answer for us frail humans may be "follow your bliss" as Joseph Campbell said. Best wishes my friend!
Agreed they control the levers on energy, food and resources in a way that protects core IC and their elite experience of the planet. I'm sure you and I have both done our parts. Keep up the good fight! Enjoy your week Dr. Mike!
Frances Leader’s Substack ‘Uncensored’ is instructional.
Anyone with any basic training in virology or medical statistics could see it from the Pfizer Summary Application to the FDA. I saw it and I'm certainly no genius
Natalie,
I’m probably being dense here, but to what does the “it” in your post refer to?
Thank you
Mike
I read the Pfizer summary application to the FDA and IMHO it was full of red flags and I simply could not believe the vaccine was approved. I wrote up my observations and I also contacted every government official in my jurisdiction as as well as the media and the public health officials I knew personally. No one listened. Even my kids and grandkids went and got vaxxed. I know exactly how Cassandra felt. Naked Emperor kindly published my observations at the time for me, complete with typos.
I still can't believe this vaccine got FDA approval. The things I saw were so basic. These are methods of analysis I taught to first year medical students. The only possible explanation I can think of for why no one in the entire medical community used their own brains is that everyone was blinded by fear and decided listening to the FDA and CDC was easier. You should have heard the gasp from my husband's family doctor when I explained why my husband and I were refusing the vax. He (like all doctors) was being paid a fat bonus for each patient he called on the telephone and asked to come in to get vaxxed. He started to stutter and then made some noises about FDA approval and being used by millions and it must be safe. He then redeemed himself by saying "no pressure, no pressure, it's entirely your choice." Of course that was before the insanity of vaccine passports.
Natalie,
This is great & thank you for outlining what you did, saw & reported.
You’re absolutely right.
There are to me a veteran of R&D astonishing gaps in the dossier.
There is no section on ADME (absorption, distribution, metabolism & elimination) or pharmacodynamics. They’ve formally no idea where the dose goes, what it does there & for how long, let alone effects.
No formal reproductive toxicology section yet it’s “safe for pregnant women”.
The manufacturing section is a disgrace.
Do watch out for America’s Grand Jury, every day this week. I’m sure there’ll be edits issued over coming weeks.
Best wishes
Mike
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/a-readers-story-on-her-concerns-about?s=r
me too (suspect)
... also Malone didn’t say anything at the beginning... seems fine with it for elderly & compromised... at least GVB said end of last year that vaccination campaign should cease immediately... but then he’s not the one up on the pedestal.
thank you again Dr Mike for your positive contributions.
Geert's been against the Vax since day one.
Ouch! Certainly would like to hear more if you'd like to elaborate Dr. Yeadon.
Your comments below are excellent. While our tinfoil hats have been in fact remarkably useful over the past couple of years, it's also true that one can be over-primed to see The Crawling Eye everywhere, even when sometimes it really is just an ordinary shadow. Thank you for your contributions here.
here is what he says comes next https://streamyard.com/ru4v72udbce5
Agreed
The "I told you so" grim satisfaction I'd otherwise feel is denied to many of us who have loved ones, cherished friends etc. who did get vaxxed.
I was terribly worried but held my tongue when a beloved friend of nearly 50 years in the UK told me she was getting vaxxed. She knew I wasn't, and I know she felt I was being a little--foolish? Tinfoil hatted? After her second dose she had catastrophic consequences. Lost a transplanted kidney. Spent 4 months in hospital. Resuscitated from cardiac arrest 3 times before the EMTs even got her out of her house.
The bitterness I feel about what was done to her--they ain't got words for it. And for everyone else I care about who's had the vax? Every time one of 'em isn't feeling well my heart drops.
Same here. My parents and step-parents all got the jab, despite my advice and making sure they had true "informed consent". My voice wasn't enough to overcome their trust in the government and the fear-mongering media. I worry every day.
Jules, this is what breaks my heart. I'm a nurse. I work in a law firm. I am not a stupid person and I have spent hours and hours and hours reading and researching about Covid and then the shots. But when it came time to talk to my kids, my oldest two cared more about what people on Instagram or on a podcast had to say than their mom who has loved them and cared for them for 25+ years. Thankfully my younger kids have listened but I truly grieve for the older ones.
NAB I'm so sorry. I have a 16-year-old and I am thankful every day that he is a junior firefighter and most of the men at the fire station have been outspoken against the jabs and the mandates. So he hears the truth from more than just his parents... I guess the only thing we can do is take comfort in the fact that all bodies are unique and many are capable of surviving serious insult. I'll pray that your children are among the ones who are able to flush these toxins and repair their immune systems. Just as I pray the same for my parents...
Thank you, Jules!
My adult kid's employer mandated it but even before, my kid decided to get it (J&J) after discussing with friends. Discussed thoroughly with me too, and one of the really hard parts about being a parent is knowing they must ultimately decide for themselves. Fortunately my kid does trust much of my advice and takes 1000 mgs vitamin C daily, and since I know it's an anti-coagulant and anti-inflammatory, I just had to say all my prayers to the Beneficent Force of the Cosmos and try not to do that endless scream of horror thing. But it's hard.
I am so sorry for your pain. I know how hard this is and I too have people I love in my life that were hurt by the jab or were deceived. But there is a God, Jesus, and he loves you and I more than we can imagine. I will pray for you and your family.
Satan is working powerfully in this world but don't fear for Jesus "has overcome this world"!
"May the Lord bless you and keep you. May he make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you. May he lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace."
Good intent is always appreciated.
I will be forever grateful that my two children and two of my three grandchildren are totally aware and have refused the shots at all costs. Sadly, one grandson got two Pfizer shots so he could continue his music concerts (he's a musician). Thankfully, he was convinced to not get a booster. So far, he has had no problems.
On the other hand, all three of my siblings got the shots, probably at least two of them also got boosters. Both my brothers had prostate cancer 15 and 20 years ago, and I'm holding my breath that they don't get a recurrence. Thus far, none of them has yet experienced any problems (to my knowledge). They're all three shot/mask fanatics so quite awhile ago I decided to not go there with all this...knowing that whatever I said would not change their leftist minds. I preferred to keep my family relations intact.
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Same. My voice has been useless. Even after mom landed in the hospital for 5 days after her first dose (heart trouble). Even after she went BACK to the hospital following her second dose, and had to have part of her heart cauterized. Still got the booster in November—her doctor recommended it, after all! Now she has an ALS diagnosis. I'm brokenhearted, and angry as hell.
My friend Jeanette was just diagnosed with ALS. She had her booster on a Monday, the health nurse assuring her she was now 97% PROTECTED!!! By Friday she could not make her legs work. I think she had ALS for a time, but the booster seemed to BOOST THE DISEASE. My heart breaks for her - and everyone who may be suffering consequences from this shot.
Starting to feel like this thread is going to be a horror. For everyone who is experiencing the grief and fury of seeing a loved one harmed--I understand you to the marrow of my bones.
Truly, truly sorry. A horror. Wishing all your family strength.
It’s just too awful.
My wife & I both had distant upbringings from remote parents, and all four parents were dead while we were still quite young.
The point of mentioning this is neither of us have any idea what’s it’s like to lose a relative that you’re close to. My prayers are with you & anyone to whom this ghastly nightmare is their reality.
Our children thankfully are red pilled. But half our siblings are in the mass despite my best efforts.
They all know I was pretty senior in a big pharma & then successful as a biotech CEO.
Yet they discount everything I say as if I’m guessing & know nothing of the field.
I have no explanation for this. Nothing comes faintly close to anything I’ve ever heard of.
"Humans are easily conditioned."
Arghhh. God help us.
I never could grasp "witch burning," and other mass insanity. Now oh so sadly I do.
Read "Political Ponerology." It is pretty revealing as to the madness humans can slide into, temporarily.
We are watching the Fourth Reich rise around us, inside our neighbors, family, and friends, and orchestrated by those our of our direct reach.
The ones pulling the strings know well what they are doing, those on the strings are clueless.
My response is to speak out, reach as many as possible, resist in all ways possible, and pray unceasingly.
Gandhi said his greatest weapon was "mute prayer."
And, doing everything with great love, ala Saint Theresa, the "little flower," is the only way I know to work with the deep difficulty of perceiving that which we are staring into the face of.
Love is the opposite of fear and all other destructive negative feelings.
Despite the darkness I can still find it, and for me that symbol is the Rose. Especially the White Rose, ala Sophie Scholl. The example of a young woman standing fearlessly against the entire Nazi Machine is so, so powerful. And if she can do it, so can we.
If someone who has worked in the industry for decades including at Pfizer ... is unable to convince family members... then it is understandable that most others will not succeed.
I'd like to show this to a few people ... but they will tell me to f789 off and mind my own business...
https://metatron.substack.com/p/covid-requiem-aeternam?s=r
I long ago accepted that “You can’t reason a person out of something they didn’t reason themselves into in the first place”.
You know, it's a funny thing. Losing parents is normal, right? That's life. You're supposed to lose them, they're not supposed to lose you. So everyone should go through this, it's sad but, you know, normal.
And then it happens to you and you realize that for every person in the world, it's their first and unique experience of this derangement of the rules of the universe because what kid, no matter how antique, is prepared to be motherless?
My mother and I had a horrible, horrible complex relationship, and she died in 2009 after months of medical mistakes and, by the end, the most unspeakable suffering, and it was the very worst year of my life following her death. I personally would have liked her kept forever in some sort of Twilight Zone alternative space of being--not bothering me, and remotely fine and happy. The centennial of her birth was this past December and it stunned me to be the child of a woman born 100 years ago and to continue to be the child of a now-dead mother. I sure as heck wouldn't want to be seeing or talking to her every day, that would drive me nuts, but I still really don't want her dead. Go figure.
That's terrible they recommended the booster after all that. Now ALS... that's terrible. I'm so sorry to read this.
That's the frustrating part, the obvious harm that people are willing to ignore. And it's what makes the situation more like dealing with people in a cult than having any kind of rational discourse.
Lost my father in law to a stoke after his first shot. He had meningitis and sepsis when he died as well.
That is very sad... I'm sorry to read this...
So very deeply sorry.
This is the most balanced viewpoint to be in. The person who is cheering deaths out of spite has no love in their heart. I'm sorry about your friend. It's a sad thing what Pharma and the govts are doing.
"The person who is cheering deaths out of spite has no love in their heart."
You get 100 virtue points.
We're not cheering, but after 2 years+ of this idiocy I'll be damned if I'm going to be sympathetic to suicidal morons who disparaged us 'anti vaxxers' as selfish tinfoil hatted retards, who were risking everyone's life. Meh.
I'm kinda leaning towards Schadenfreude myself...
I made a last ditch attempt to rescue close family members who insisted on including their young kids in the injection program... I spent 30 minutes crafting what I thought would be a convincing email (I have multiple close friends with heart damage - one had minor issues after jab one and I was able to convince him to not take anymore... possibly saving his life)....
But nope. Not interested. 'We've all been injected/booster and we are fine'
I've got a couple of close friends who are boosted up - we spoke to them the other day and they both have swollen lymph nodes and are sick... the nodes have been swollen for nearly a month - the doctor prescribed antibiotics but that did nothing ... their fear was palpable on the video call - they probably think it's long covid (since they both had covid BEFORE getting jabs... go figure).
I am expecting bad news in the coming months.... (VAIDS?)
Thank you.
It is so incredibly difficult watching people hurt themselves and being powerless. I suspect a friends son [28] who claims to have "long covid" might actually be vaxxine injured. He is having cognitive issues; I suspect early prion disease. In the year since he's been injected, my 89 year old godfather has gone downhill, and has lost his memory. Yet no one will connect it to the injection, and no one wants to hear that they did something unwise and might have hurt themselves. They would rather be right than try to help themselves.
The thing is...
The people behind this are diabolically brilliant - they've use their PR to convince people vax injuries are long covid -- so the injured rush out to get the boosters.
Yesterday, I found out that my vaxxed/boosted and not in the best of health brother in law has shingles.
And on Twitter yesterday, someone commented "Why are all the vaxxed getting shingles? I know 10 people who have it right now."
I am worried, to say the least.
Well, I got shingles in Jan. 2020. Got it mostly in my scalp! Then a tiny (one inch by one inch approx.) patch on my neck. I went into full Vitamin C cavalry mode and it didn't get any worse though my scalp was driving me nuts with the intermittent stabbing pains in my ears.
Enter the evil pharmaceutical wonderkinds.
I hadn't realized that back & body extra-strength aspirin would handle that; I only had regular, and a few mgs. makes a real difference. Anyway, after a week of moderate but real misery, I went to an urgent care place. Physician's asst. was very nice, very professional, wanted to prescribe Valtrex. I asked why since I was turning the corner, and he said that since it was in my scalp, which is near my brain, there was a small but real chance of meningitis complications.
So I filled the prescription (and got the aspirin...). You want to look up the instructions and the side effects for that baby. With what I know of kidney disease...
Anyway I took it but lived in real terror of wondering if fate was finally gonna catch up to me. And I think that's the last time I'll override my own instincts.
But anyway--16,000 mgs-18,000 mgs Vitamin C evenly divide over waking hours is what I took. I have no lingering after-effects of that nasty shingles outbreak and for the week I was unpharmaceuticalized, I'd say I was holding my own and as I'd stated, turning the corner. If I'd had the aspirin at home in the first place I'd never have gone to urgent care.
Thank you so much SCA. I will pass along the information to my sister in law, but honestly, she and her husband are believers in Big Pharma, so they will probably just stay on whatever regimen their doctor has for him. It's sad. There are natural remedies that can help people, but they are too brainwashed/stubborn to try them.
Most welcome and wishing you and everyone you care about safety and health.
Yes, latent virii find new life after people receive the shots.
I've seen sooo many shingles cases post-vax. Not ONE realised the connection. Not ONE had a doctor make the connection, even though it is officially listed as an AE.
I wonder how many people that I know are suffering in silence?
Particularly those were outspoken in favour of the death shots....
Yep. Mom is vax injured… not anything as bad as your statement, but it makes me sick.
Dear living God, hope she'll be OK. I've been in fear for my vxxed family, all of whom but me took the jab. Praying they got the saline (this is a highly blue area). Not much faith in that, though.
I am so sorry. Hoping she will get better.
Just remember that the doctors who've come through for us for over 2 years with early treatments are saying that the spike protein damage can be fixed. If any of your relatives mention concerns or problems suggest they check out flccc.net and the "I-Recover: Post-Vaccine Treatment" protocol.
Right there with you, SCA.
Sorry about your friend, and I often ponder the same "feeling" regarding friends and loved ones. Coming off of Easter weekend, my immediate family were very likely the only ones 5+ yrs not vaccinated out of the larger family gathering of more than 30 members. Despite my wife and I catching COVID from a vaccinated family member last October, I'm willing to bet that we will be the first in the spotlight if anyone is found to be Positive after this weekend.
Based upon the data we continue to see mounting, I am concerned that there are dark days ahead and large amounts of misplaced blame.
Thank you. And yes.
Does she recognise that the jab did this to her or is she a coincidence theorist?
She no longer answers my emails or my phone calls. I know she's struggling with extreme depression on top of everything else. I just send loving email greetings for every holiday I know is meaningful to her and she's in my thoughts always.
wow....
After two years of not seeing each other except over Zoom, my cousin, a pharma hotshot, agreed to get together for Passover this weekend. He's bringing his 90+-year-old mother and asked us to get COVID tested. "So, is it just because my family and I are unjabbed?" I jabbed. "No, Rando ... *sigh* Everyone needs to test because the jabs don't work, OK?" (paraphrasing a bit there) I wouldn't call this sanity yet, but at least we're working on the stages of grief and letting go, I guess.
Our local synagogue still only allows vaccinated people inside. Still. I cannot believe it. Our more orthodox one never worried about any of that from the get go. It’s a strange strange world at the moment. Happy Passover!
Just name it the Sisyphus variant from now on.
fab moniker!
im in the uk, i had the covid 2 weeks back, was ill for 2 days. unjabbed. i got ill again this week.
(only ill for 3 days in total cos i take high doses of liposomal vitamin c) but i think i aught to point out that at no point did i get a test or tell a doctor so i wonder how many unjabbed like me are not reporting and altering the picture
I’ve had this same thought. Additionally, how many of us have been exposed to Covid but never had any symptoms. We simply developed immunity and went on with our lives.
We are in the US. I’m pretty sure they are at the point if just making up data, and that started about March 2020. My husband, kids, and I had a Covid party in January to get it over with (traveling and living normally wasn’t working), and all very mild, we didn’t report to any tracking or get a 3rd party test until the antibody test after we were over it.
That said, at least in the US, we know a ton of both jabbed and unjabbed people who just use a bunch of home test and never report it. It has been our experience that our jabbed friends are getting much sicker than unjabbed, but these back to back Covid infections don’t seem to have hit here yet (for anybody we know).
I do have questions about the quality of data elsewhere (I know it’s crap here). I think the actual v reported is probably a huge issue, but on both sides. Plenty of vaccinated people don’t want to “contribute to the narrative” the vaccines don’t work , even as one of my friends got stupid insanely sick before getting treatment back during Delta because she had been fully vaccinated 4 months (she’s obese). They are having trouble accepting it’s not “narrative” - the stupid shots don’t work in reality. The only fake “narrative” is the claims they work.
How did we get to the point of defending the pharma industry over our own health & well being?
Why are we trusting a company (Pfizer) who in 2009 was charged with the largest health care FRAUD settlement in the history of the Department of Justice and paid $2.3 Billion to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from the illegal promotion of certain pharmaceutical products?
I wonder that often. Covid is far from the first disaster-for-profit in pharmaceuticals. I really don’t understand those who didn’t sort of instinctively question the narrative as soon as data emerged showing these things cause harm and don’t appear to work.
It’s like outcomes don’t matter if one can convince themself there is no such thing as objective reality. The ideology appears to enable those who buy it to habitually ignore actual outcomes.
I think that is why it is also frequently the same people promoting big pharma subscriptions that result in demonstrable IQ drops, sterilization, and life long health issues on the basis of “feelings” around gender in children. Any sane person would point out that girls wanting to play with trucks, or boys with dolls, negates the stereotype. Those gullible to big pharma funded activists have become helplessly convinced of the insanity these preferences “really” negates immutable biology. 😩. Their answer isn’t to re-examine their own obcession with child gender stereotypes, as anyone who does quickly recognizes close to zero children really fit into any stereotype completely. Instead they convince kids who stray too from the stereotypes to destroy the only body they will ever get long before a child’s brain is developed enough to appreciate the long term consequences. Even though the claim “if you don’t affirm your kid will kill themselves” has been proven false, it’s still the narrative thrown out as if it’s a fact at everyone in opposition to child genital mutilation.
I have also noticed many of the Covidians think of those in Appalachia as “stupid hillbillies.” In reality many people in Appalachia were early adopters of big pharma subscription plans, narcotics, and the result has been the destruction of countless lives. I wish more would consider the actual outcomes of previous recent pharma subscription plans.
The clear harm from handing out narcotics like candy is now evident to nearly everyone - even the doctors who spent decades peddling the prescriptions and repeating the lie they aren’t addictive. Europe is figuring out the same applies to puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and child gender mutilation surgeries as more countries there move to ban the procedures on children. I fear the Covidians will eventually learn the same devastating lesson that often comes too late.
Unfortunately too many people buy the fallacy that big pharma can provide magic pills to make their problems and fears disappear. While there are real miracles if modern medicine, magic pills mostly aren’t reality. How many more people will destroy themselves and their children trying to avoid the unavoidable realities of life?
I think there is a correlation between those who believe in climate change and those who believe in the covid narrative. Superseeds facts, science, and data. Perhaps taking the place of religion.
I liken it to a Far Side cartoon which made fun of teaching vets how to treat horses. Every malady suffered by a horse was to be treated by shooting the horse.
Every malady, every perceived problem, (covid, "global warming" etc ) is to be treated with the creation of authoritarian government.
Horses in cartoons get treated with just as much nuance as they would apply to human beings.
Same goes for the H Chol causes heart disease nonsense
Well stated. To a large extent, the problem is that people believe that (say) if some diseases can be cured or at least well medicated, then by extension ALL maladies must also be so. The idea that there are limits to what can be achieved in the real world at reasonable or even exhorbitant cost, are anathema to these idealists.
I think many people are trust Big Pharma because the constant media drumbeat of "death, death and death from covid" psychologically traumatized them, and the injections were there way out of the death spiral and a supposed way back to "normalcy."
Combine something called Terror Management Theory with Mass Formation Psychosis and I think you have a good idea of where many people in the world are today.
I would also say that most people are out of shape and don’t really think two seconds before ingesting whatever, so was a vaccine that hadn’t been tested really that big of a leap for them?
Because most people believe whatever they are told. It’s so sad. There is no critical thought.
My husband is a partner at a large audit firm and you’d think people there would think critically, or at least would be used to being skeptical. They make fun of him because he’s not boosted (most don’t know he’s not vaccinated either).
I assume your "we" is not present company. In defense of Pharma, they've produced many fine drugs over the decades that actually save life and improve health. Of course, we at least think that the Covid-19 "vaccines" were not one such product, indeed a glaring example of the traditional system(s) betrayed. It's worth repeating that, almost unique in perhaps our lifetimes, the defense of Covid-19 dogma (e.g. that the vaccines work) involves far more than just Pharma: also many government offices, media and so forth. Lots of special interests, not only billionaires and huge corporations, but also your local petty tyrant or even medical professional who drank the Kool-Ade, are caught in the spider web and will defend the lies until...well, I'm not sure how far they'll go.
Indeed, present company excluded.
Not everyone "drank the Kool-Aid"---I think there were many bribes to keep the the scam glued together.
Rebel News discovered via an access to information document that the Public Health Agency of Canada diverted $14 million from vaccine procurement to combatting “mis/disinformation.” In other words, funding propaganda.
The past 2 years has been an education in many areas, including the realization that my government is my enemy.
Yes, I want to stay off the radar as much as possible especially when the system offers no treatments
Get a stash of Ivermectin.
Lucky you!!!! Cannot get it here in Canada. I used Quercetin and zinc.
(39 yo unvaxxed CAN) I literally have COVID right now and used quercetin and zinc this morning. I felt better within an hour. It's anecdotal, but I'm much happier. My tests are getting darker yesterday vs today, so we'll see what tomorrow brings. I've been using daily iodine in a nasal spray as well in the mornings.
I too used nebulizer saline solution with added iodine. I did this a number of times per day. Hang in there - better days are ahead!!!!
You can get it in Canada via CovidTelehealth.ca
You can get it in Canada via CovidTelehealth.ca
Oh . . . Thank you so much. I will try that!!!
Maybe try sweet wormwood. I have read some articles on it working like ivermectin.
Check the FLCC protocol. There is another alternative to the one that cannot be named.
The anti-depressant seems to work at least as well.
We can get Ivermectin prescriptions from local pharmacies where I live, but in places attacking doctors for it, the other early treatments haven’t gotten that much attention from the political Covidians.
Can you get it from India?
NO. I can get it shipped to a U.S. address, but currently I am FORBIDDEN to get on an aeroplane, train or boat - by OUR DEAR LEADER here in Canada 🇨🇦. I essentially cannot leave the country - stuck behind THE MAPLE LEAF CURTAIN 🍁! ALL because I will not medical orders from a former part time drama teacher!
With you on that one. There are another 6 million of us in the same position. The travel mandate is just another form of coercion (illegal per the Nuremberg Code). There is no science to support it as the vaxxed spread the infection. Even Teresa Tam at the start of this said that travel bans were pointless. If it was Trump (or even Stephen Harper) who did it the Liberals and their supporters would be screaming racist epithets from the rooftops all across the country.
Yes - and thank God for former Newfoundland Premier BRIAN PECKFORD - who with THE JUSTICE CENTRE FOR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM has this in court. He has stated he will follow this to the Supreme Court of Canada.
You can’t get it shipped to Canada from India?
You can try. There is a 80-20 chance it will be impounded by customs at the point of import. Not worth the risk. It's as bad as flying a Canadian flag from your truck.
I did not report - and I will NEVER submit to a test. I'm opting out of the game entirely. I was sick last September and the ONLY reason I suspect I had this virus was my sense of smell was GAWN! Recovered at home with THE ZELINSKI PROTOCOL.
💯 on this. I've never taken a single test and never will.
Also 💯 Unjabbed.
Don't become part of the system.
Smell loss (anosmia) can be caused by other respiratory viruses, not just SARS-CoV-2. Influenza, or even a common cold, can damage the olfactory nerve.
I caught a mild case of flu in January 2018, near the end of a week-long cruise. Completely lost sense of smell about 5 days after the headache and fever began. Didn't have nasal congestion or runny nose. Smell began to return within a week, mostly back to normal at 3-4 months (coffee took 18 months to come back).
Lost smell again with OG COVID November 2020. Returned completely within 6-8 weeks, but had a few smells that weren't right (parosmia). Took more than a year for that to resolve.
Never in my life have I lost taste or smell with any illness until Covid. Nor have family members. So while it may happen, it must have been rare, whereas with Covid it was the hallmark thing.
Post-viral anosmia isn't super common, but not one in a million, either. I think the incidence of all types of anosmia is about 5% in the general population--people who have had a head injury and torn the nerve loose, people whose olfactory nerve was damaged by medicines, chemicals (remember Zicam gel?) or surgery, people who have severe nasal polyps. Gradual loss of smell with no obvious cause can even be a sign of impending Parkinson's disease or dementia.
People don't talk about it, because no one who hasn't had anosmia understands the weirdness:
"Oh, I had a bad stuffy nose for a few days with a cold once. I know just how you feel." No, you don't.
"I don't believe you. Here, can you smell this?" as they shove something under your nose.
"Wow, I bet you're glad you can't smell [insert noxious odor here]." Not a good tradeoff for no longer being able to smell flowers, and cut grass, and for my food having zero flavor except for sweet, salty, bitter, sour, and savory.
"Just quit whining. Be glad you didn't lose an important sense like hearing or sight." Being able to smell spoiled food, or natural gas, or something burning, is kind of important, don't you think?
But yes, post-viral anosmia is much more common with COVID than with flu or colds. It seems to be less severe and resolve sooner in most people, from what I've heard, Though I know a few personally who still don't have their sense of smell back a year or more after recovering from COVID, and they won't do the smell training or take the supplements that might help.
Wow, I know someone in that situation. What are the supplements that might help? And do have more info on smell training?
I learned about smell training from a British registered charity (I guess that's like a U.S. non-profit?) called AbScent. Their web site is abscent . org. The few studies that have been done on smell training do show some benefit for post-viral anosmics, but there are no guarantees.
Smell training is kind of like physical therapy for the olfactory nerve. It's worth trying if they can smell anything at all, even if it's distorted. They say to give it at least four months of daily or twice-daily sessions (about 5 minutes each).
It's mindful smelling of a few strong scents, one at a time, while thinking about what each scent is supposed to smell like. Essential oils are usually used, since they're such concentrated sources of scent. You don't have to fork out for expensive oils; I got mine at places like Vitamin Shoppe and Amazon. The AbScent web site gives details on how to smell train, and what scents to start with, and sells kits for people who don't want the bother of putting together their own.
AbScent doesn't promote supplements. I used a few that I found through online research, that had at least a study or two to back them up, or that other people had used successfully. Alpha lipoic acid, nigella sativa (black seed oil), ginkgo biloba, and lion's mane, all in the doses recommended on the bottle. I took them all simultaneously, after checking for interactions.
Some people get improvement from steroid nasal sprays such as Nasonex (mometasone) or Flonase (fluticasone), which decreases inflammation in the nasal passages. Others find that a course of oral steroids temporarily brings back their sense of smell. Vitamin A nose drops available in Europe (Coldistop or Coldastop) have helped some people. These are discussed on the AbScent site.
Hope this helps!
I was of the same mind, but when my (vaxxed) husband brought Covid into the house and I then got sick, he suggested -- and I think wisely -- that getting a positive test result from a 3rd party vendor might have some value in case some gov't requires proof of vax OR prior Covid. (And I know lots of people think we're done w/ vax passports, but I don't believe that.)
If I have understood you, you did not get a test, so how do you know your infection was CoVid? It shares the same symptoms as other respiratory viruses. In fact the NHS has increased the symptoms list its ace operatives say are caused by CoVid.
It is very unusual to get a symptomatic respiratory disease twice within three weeks, particularly from the same virus.
Home testing. In the US most people are doing that now. Based on our hospitalization numbers, Covid is still around. Based on positive tests from 3rd parties, not at all. Only non home tests get reported.
Parts of the US have lagged the UK by 2-4 weeks throughout the whole Covid insanity. I suspect that remains true, but readily available $8 home test are easier and widely embraced. Your doc can call in prescriptions to treat Covid based on your symptoms or the results of a home test, but that doesn’t get reported or make it into public data infection numbers.
I personally see everyone avoiding the 3rd party (aka not home) testing for a variety of reasons. I don’t see a correlation to the shots. Those of us unvaccinated have mostly never played the Covid game, while the vaccinated don’t want a test result going to a kids’ school or employer or whatever. People seem to be getting tested by 3rd parties for travel, work, school, special events, etc....... notably not for actual symptoms. 😂
i answered this below, i spent time in the company of those that tested positive and were actually ill when i visited. with regards to reinfection, i have been working to my limit, physically hard and didnt give my body enough recovery time. testing is something that everyone jumps on but historically doctors do diagnosis by symptoms, i dont get the Flu, not ever. this was covid as sure as im typing here
You are aware that in 2020 flu disappeared. Only covid was diagnosed. Almost similar symptoms.
Likely a result of the same infection. Either sars-cov-2 hides out. and then comes out again to fire up the immune system, or (more likely) it causes a bit of immunosuppression which allows other infections to flare up a week or 2 after covid is over. I got this 2 weeks after covid.
The effect on the stats are interesting. Where I am many un jabbed still need to get testing every 2 days in order to go to work so contribute tot eh stats. But then recently the vaccinated have been rushing to get tested too as they have lost confidence in the vaccines
If you didn’t take a test, how are you certain you had COVID and not a cold or flu?
good question, i know exactly who i got it off, they were jabbed friends who did get tested. by the way how did doctors ever diagnose an illness without a test before this pandemic? symptoms!
The tests are mostly bullshit with way too many false positives. But with pretty much the same symptoms for cold and omicron, you can’t really differentiate between the two. This is why flu cases were said to be so low last year, they just reclassified them as COVID.
Afraid you're right about that inflation of Covid cases that were, well, the flu.
Or a host of other things. Stress, toxins, malnutrition, radiation poisoning. We need to begin expanding our understanding of what makes us ill. Is it really a viral pathogen?
there is of course the dominance theory, every season there is 1 strain that is more transmissible than the rest, so the others get beaten out.
How do you really know you had C-19 even AFTER testing? There is no accurate test for it.
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Do you think the antibody tests are accurate? I think I had covid 2/2021. Didn’t take a test. Allergies I thought but then I lost my smell & taste for 3+ weeks. Total loss, like my nose and tongue had been removed. I took an antibody test a month later and it was +.
Our environment(air, water, food) is being blasted with toxins. I suspect there’s a lot more going on than just a viral pathogen.
if it was a toxin then you would expect to see an uptick in polio type illnesses, polio really doesnt exist and is just toxic build up, like guillain barre syndrome, oh wait thats whats happening to the jabbed!
I’ve had mild Covid at least twice when my husband had it. I tested negative both times even though my husband tested positive. Had Omicron in January, so did my husband. He tested positive and I tested negative. I had to test for T-Cell antibodies which proved I had Covid. I apparently don’t have B-cell antibodies so had to pay over $200 for a test. This just confirms that those PCR tests are useless.
I have a theory about that comment, but will let others speculate rather than mess up the thread.
I don't think it alters the picture because it's already lopsided the other way. People with religious and medical exemptions are being made to test twice a week here in the U.S. and I am guessing similar dynamics occur in the UK.
So you actually would get an outsized number of unvaxxed testing positive because they don't make the vaxxed test.
My husband has to get tested every time he goes to his office. Fortunately, it is not very often but at least every few months.
My spouse has to test twice a week. His company said they will fire any unvaccinated employee who does not. I encouraged him to not put the swab in his nose, but blow onto a tissue and swab that for his home tests and at least that makes it feel less invasive.
the whole covid testing here is abandoned, no one but the really bought in and the seriously ill get tested
I wonder the same thing. I won't test if I am sick. My daughter,32, and son in law, 26, who live with me, test every time they are sick. They haven't tested positive yet, but can you really trust home tests? (Both are boosted, unfortunately, but they don't seem to have health problems yet, except my daughter had some period problems after the first two.) My husband, 71, had the Pfizer shots, but is not boosted. (He didn't listen to me either!) He has had so many adverse events... From stroke like symptoms, to tremors and feeling like electricity is "thrumming" through his body, to cognitive issues. He has had every test under the sun and they all come back normal. He is not able to function all the time and had to retire from his job. My other daughter is on the same page as I am... Not taking any experimental vaccines!
Same. I think this must be true across the board. Are people who have resisted thus far seriously going to be testing at rates near those of the covidians? If at all?!!! Doubt it.
My family (three young kids) and I had in Jan of 21. Long story short, we tested with a private facility who was testing their employees (bio lab). We got Covid again Jan 22. My 64 year old mom got it, as well as my brother (but possibly not his family). I know this because my husband gets his antibodies tested every quarter (or so) and in February his antibody levels were off the charts.
My mom had a horrible headache, chills and fever for 2 days. Then a mild headache for 4 days and by day 8 was pretty much back to normal.
My 34 year old brother was quite sick but none of his family got sick. (They may have had it previously…not sure).
My husband was quite Ill the first time. I was ok. I’d call it a bad cold. The second time I had the worst headache and similar symptoms as the first time but not as long. Ive had lower energy since and I don’t think my heart is working properly (I should probably get it checked out…my feet have started to swell at night). I am an extremely healthy person otherwise and have ooodles of energy normally.
My husband was not very sick the second time. The kids were barely sick the first time but my oldest daughter who is 8 was much sicker the second time, as well as my youngest who is now almost 3. My middle who usually gets the sickest was fine.
My dad and his gf were around us and were supposed to go to Mexico for vacation and postponed three days until my dad was felt better. His gf felt tired once they got there but that’s it. They were there for 8 days and she tested positive when they were trying to fly home.
Covid sucks. Everything about it, around it, all of it. Designed to destroy us all either with the vaccines, the virus or the response to it.
(We’re all unvaccinated. And outside of the test to get back into the country we’ve never been tested.)
Make sure you're taking Vit D
ive been taking 4000iu a day for years, still got it. oh well teach me to work too hard
I can sympathize with your second statement. Of the Cardinal Sins, I epitomize Sloth. I would do something about it, but you can understand my dilemma... 🤡
i congratulate you on completing the reply
For the average person (not under-weight or over-weight) the recommendation is 5,000 – 7,000 IU daily.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
I take 8,000 IU per day, and spend half an hour outside in our back yard whenever the weather permits.
How do you know it was covid and not the common cold?
I don't really, but I have to say I have never had such a profound loss of sense of smell. Also, the symptoms were very odd - everything that had even a bit of sugar tasted sickeningly sweet, my hair fell out, I NEEDED to be outside in fresh air and preferably in sunshine. Slept alot. I was treating it at home - and it was over in about 6 days.
exposure and symptoms same as doctors have been doing for years
They have the same symptoms.
similar yes, but my exposure was to people that were tested also the other factor is virus behaviour. there is always a dominant strain and its currently covid
Ours were bizarre and different. All very mild but different. The kids got headaches. The younger one 6 hours with a fever. The older one about a day and behind her eyeballs hurt. My husband got a very sudden 102degree temp and said everything tasted like metal. He had weakness and was freezing for 2 days. I didn’t have any “symptoms” aside from being so tired physically I literally laid on the floor in front of an open window with sunshine for 7 hours. First I’m ADHD and second I work out everyday. This wasn’t like sleepy tired or 3 hour tennis match tired. It was like I couldn’t lift my own head I was so weak tired. It was so weird.
I can’t 100% “know” it was Covid. All we know if crazy number of positive home tests. We’d been tested a bunch before for international travel and events and all negative. We didn’t report the positive test anywhere, but added to antibody tests in late February to other testing. Antibodies very positive. Getting the same blood work done in October 2021 we were all very negative. The blood work is from switching to an integrative health practice.
It'll come back and jab you for a few weeks. Same arc of infection. If I had it how, I'd stay off radar if I could.
The vax has only been around for 15 months
It's crazy. I still have family members who maintain that the only way to get 'back to normal' is to get everyone vaccinated. Even though they are getting covid. It is a bitter irony that they might well be prolonging the pandemic and facilitating more potent variants that put themselves at greater risk. And for what? Vaccinating the vulnerable and elderly wasn't enough of a market share so they had to expand to every living thing on planet earth.
You will never get back to normal with non-sterilizing vaccines. You're on a treadmill thinking that way. Unreal people still believe this crap.
Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche has been screaming this from the rooftop from the beginning. But people just won’t listen!
Those who sees things through the lens of terrain theory have been saying the same thing as Bossche. The difference is you don't have to posit the existence of a virus to see the same effects.
Injecting toxins (quackcines) into people will increase their toxic load. Some will become ill right away, others may take longer, and still others will see no apparent effect. Over time the toxic load will manifest itself if a person cannot match the rate of detox. This is why we see a variety of responses.
I am still laughing at " quackcines". That was really good.
On top of the toxic, processed chemical-rich foods that most people are consuming several times each day without questioning it.
Exactly. That is on top of a very long list of other toxins we are exposed to and have been exposed to in the past. Dr. Minkoff in Clearwater, FL. says every person he tests has toxic levels of lead and glyphosate to name only two.
Have you looked up into the skies recently? Chemtrails/cloud seeding are constant. I suspect the positive “Covid” diagnosis could be detoxing from so many toxins. I’m starting to doubt the viral contagion theory.
I agree, but then wonder how people in close proximity are supposedly "catching" the virus. But maybe it's some sort of resonance.
Resonance is very possible. People in close proximity may also be exposed to other things in common, such as air, water, food, environmental contaminants, stress, etc. They may also have similar dietary habits which leads to similar nutrient deficiencies.
Many of these may be causing slow but definite harm and the diversion of a virus leads to a misdirection of resources as well as a lack of investigating the true sources of harm.
Some of these sources are difficult to deal with, as it requires a major shift in how we allocate resources and how we do things. One example of this is using the cheapest possible ingredients like white sugar, white flour and white salt and calling it food. I would call that entertainment, which might be fine, but only if you are also getting all the daily nutrients you need, not at the cost of lacking all the daily nutrients you need.
Metabolic disorder is a serious problem and not one that can be solved by a public health authority. It requires each person to take responsibility for their health, not placing the blame on an unproven virus and allowing people who do not have any interest in your wellbeing dictate how you should live and what goes into your body.
I am sure air pollution is a major contributor. Air pollution is easy to prove. A pathogenic transmissible virus has not been proven.
Chemtrails are much more than air pollution.
Because the corporate media won't go there people don't hear it.
Yes. So maddening. And that’s what I call them now, too - the Corporate Media. MSM/Mainstream Media is outdated, in my opinion.
Corporate Media is sponsored by Big Pharma.
It's worth mentioning: (For USA) pharma had heavy restrictions upon advertising until late 1990s (1997 IIRC?) Broadly speaking, from ~ 1980 onward, there was greater freedom in the sense that previously restricted professions were allowed to advertise. It may sound unbelievable, but only a few decades back, physicians and attorneys were forbidden nearly all advertising. This, combined with removal of many restrictions on ownership of newspapers, TV, radio, etc. led to a de-facto consolidation of the mass media. Also the removal of all limits on campaign advertising. Of course, the rise of the internet and new forms of [social] media, essentially with no legal limitations upon them at all, are another huge (and new) factor. People, especially those not born before ~ 1980, probably cannot fully appreciate (and certainly did not witness) the enormous changes in media in just a generation's time.
Great reminders. And it’s gone swiftly downhill after these changes.
Oh, yes. And Big Food-Big Agriculture-Big Medicine-Big Chemical-Big Oil...etc. it’s really all one Big combined blob, it seems.
I have to watch something on our screen while I'm exercising to make the boring exercising tolerable. So I watch old movies.
I watch old movies, too.
"this risk finds uneasy confluence with the oddly strident push, especially in the US, to claim that “long covid” is causing so many of the bad outcomes that look to stem from vaccines and increasingly VFS"
I noted the exact same meme starting to be pushed starting about 2 weeks ago, and in multiple media outlets here in the mainland US. I have been worried since about last Summer that it might turn out that raising an immune response to a single protein of a virus would inhibit the the raising of an immune response to the rest of the particle in an infection with an evolved variant. There is a ton of stuff we don't know about how the immune system works, and we went an injected half the planet with these single protein vaccines. Colossal stupidity is the only description I have for it.
It seems to me that ‘long Covid’ is brought up periodically as a fearmongering tactic. Whenever I’d try to discuss the shot or Covid19 with folks, they’d reply, “but, Long Covid!” 🙄
Early on though it was found that the vaccines did nothing to prevent long covid. That was the one thing I was concerned most for. And Ivermectin DID prevent long covid.
Stupidity to accept the clot shot. Malignity to invent and administer (mandate) it.
The Democrats, in their continuing attempt to upset the world, and invert the meaning of things, have evidently changed vaccine from an immunity to something entirely different. I wish I was a cat, and could find a warm place in the sun, and not give a damn.
Here's where being stuck in the "Covid" narrative is a trap.
There is not now nor has there ever been an epidemiological or viral emergency event of any sort anywhere in the world in the year 2020. The manufactured perception that there was such an event is an artifact of mass media manipulation, behavioral conditioning techniques and social engineering.
What is currently happening is that the mRNA injections are vaporizing the immune system creating all sorts of illnesses not "Covid being enabled by the vaccines."
"Covid" itself is not a unique disease and never was. It's a catch-all set of symptoms that was invented to gin up fear.
All of the exaggerated and repeated fear-based messages from the media and government agencies these past two years were just part of the advertising campaign for the pharmaceutical industry’s newest lucrative product. Without the fear-mongering propaganda campaign no one would’ve noticed anything unusual about the last two flu seasons because there was nothing unusual, except for the criminal, murderous, and utterly unscientific lockdown policies in response to the non- existent threat.
"Covid-19" was simply the flu re-branded (the "flu" itself is problematic for a number of reasons) and was used as a terror campaign to execute financial and policy goals.
“Covid” is used as cover for crashing the economies in the Western world. There is not now and never has been a “pandemic”- that is all Kabuki theater to disguise the reality of the rapid economic decline brought on by the Ponzi Schemes of financial institutions over the past few decades.
As long as “new variants lurk right around the corner”, public health bureaucrats and pandemic profiteers can invent the next “health emergency” to impose more shutdowns for any “viral event” that conveniently suits their political and financial aims.
Need to get off the "Covid" crazy train altogether- it's a fiction.
What the hell was Ralph Baric doing with all those grants then? And what about the Wuhan Institute for Virology? I suppose you'll tell us that "gain of function" is all made-up too. But if DARPA believes in that stuff, I think it's foolish to just dismiss it all out of hand.
Of course there is psychological warfare. Quite likely that's the major part of all this, especially we lump in regulatory capture, weaponized public health bureaucracies, and the usual political-economic shenanigans. But that doesn't mean that there's no such thing as a bioweapon.
Transmissible viruses do not have to exist to explain why anyone would engage in the study and development of harmful biological agents. The development of means to kill people has been ongoing for centuries.
This makes a tremendous amount of sense. I recall a video of a medical researcher from Stanford (? I think) who, with a group of other researchers, petitioned the CDC, et. al. to give them a vial of the actual COVID virus. What the researcher was seeing, and he said as much, was many incidences of influenza A and the more virulent B strains during 2020. Obviously, he wanted to compare them to the COVID virus. Not surprisingly, he never got a reply.
Yeah. That video was a hoax. The person in the video was using someone else's name.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-154815506152
And, I would posit that the medical-industrial complex brought the whole thing upon themselves. Maybe they should have worried more about keeping their credibility instead of fear mongering.
Well, OK. Maybe it was a hoax. Then again, maybe it was AP and Johns Hopkins reasserting The Narrative. Hard to tell when there’s so much “he-said, she-said” information floating around. It’s true that anyone can make a video under whatever name they want. It’s also true that medicos and scientists can use the cover of their institutions to write papers and studies that are fraudulent, but are treated with legitimacy because they are branded with those institutions’ names. One thing for sure: the public trust in any kind of medical institution is being destroyed.
The average "fact check" is really just a snow job. And there is a lot of biased fake science and generally just shoddy work that gets promoted and endorsed by the propaganda machine.
But, this is a war. And one of the oldest tricks in the book is to put out verifiably false information and attribute it to your enemy. Maybe you've heard the term "false flag" before?
I didn't bother tracking down the actual video you referenced, but I've seen it. The guy makes some specific claims, and drops some specific names. Anyone can check those, it just takes a little effort. I'd encourage anyone to counter-fact-check the AP on this, or anything else. But please, don't just believe every viral video you see just because it seems to support your favored narrative.
You are so right about false information. Another writer on another topic (The war in Ukraine) made the very valid case that one could often validate claims or at least approach the truth closer by accessing what he called second and third level information. In other words, just doing some reading and research on the internet. One example I probably didn't invent, but is an easy example is this one: Where does the WHO obtain its funding? You'd be forgiven for thinking it's an impartial government (UN) agency. Detailed funding information is given on its very own web site. Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation > 10%, really? Well then, you might check on BMGF. This might take more digging, but you would find (at least according to others) that while they claim to be about promoting various health programs, well yes they do seem to have ownership of such things as vaccine makers. Now, all the above and more doesn't necessarily prove that Bill Gates is intent on reducing world population or whatever, but it sure does seem odd that tax-free foundations are involved in the creation of medicines for profit and then buying influence to guide policy to promote the use of such products.
If there's a moral in the above, it would probably be "Spend less time watching videos and reading articles of dubious credibility. Instead, do some background checking using publicly available data and see conclusions that will point to."
I don’t. I also know about “false flag operations.” I actually tried to find that video to check some of the guy’s claims, but by the time I had a chance to look it up, it was either taken down or buried.
It also makes sense because none of us heard or saw one thing about the 2020 flu season being worse than usual. Flu? What flu? There is no flu. There is only COVID.
Maybe the flu was there all along in 2020....only renamed to Covid as part of the scam.
That’s my theory ...
"playing further definitional games is unlikely to be able to hide an outcome of such magnitude. just like everyone noticed that all their vaxxed friends got covid, they’re going to notice this too."
One would think but it's hard to bet on common sense when the original rationale for mandates was that jabs would stop the spread & keep the vaccinated from getting or spreading Covid yet mandates still face paltry resistance. It would be impossible to believe if we did not see with our own eyes just as top athletes drop like flies and media spins it as rare but normal occurrence.
I think it would be really good if the unelected fourth branch of US government that apparently rules the other three branches and all of the rest of us would be required to give a rational, data-supported answer to the question of why fifteen fully vaccinated tennis players were unable to finish the Miami Open this week.
"An unprecedented number of players either withdrew or retired from the Miami Open this week. A total of 15 players were unable to finish, including the male and female favorites to win." https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/5914-fifteen-fully-vaccinated-tennis-players-unable-to-finish-miami-open
Did that information even travel outside Miami? I don't watch TV, so I don't know if the people with socks in their ears would have been exposed to this interesting tidbit and, perhaps, wondered why.
There are non-Covid/non-vax explanations for almost all the tennis players who withdrew or retired at this tournament: Jannik Sinner had blisters on his feet, a female Belarusian tennis player had personal life issues. And so on and so forth. I actually attended the first weekend of this tournament in person. Nobody retired in front of me. On the contrary, Sinner played and won a very physical match in an earlier round.
"There are non-Covid/non-vax explanations for almost all the tennis players who withdrew or retired at this tournament." Nearly verbatim from the fact-check site! But this curious curiosity remains: WHY was there a confluence of such debilitating events at this tournament of the healthiest people on the planet with the best tennis equipment on the planet?
At the time I took a look at an article on this issue and it looked to me like almost all the players had orthopedic type injuries, not typical vaxx injuries. It was blisters for Sinner. Crying wolf unnecessarily is bad policy when the forests are filled with packs of them!
I saw that but I don’t believe the article I read mentioned vaccines.
Whether the article mentions vaccines or not, this unprecedented list of injuries among young healthy world class tennis players deserves some serious inquiry - and it will not receive it. In the absence of that, rational people will come to logical conclusions.
I was a bit suspicious: Not a sports fan, but after a few minutes search, I confirmed that a large number of people quit in the Open, and the number fifteen is specifically mentioned. You can't get much more mainstream than Google or Yahoo for news.
I saw a passing remark with regards to this. I was paying attention to the tourney in Australia where Djokovic was forced to withdraw but I don't remember anything unusual such as this.
Never heard this. Not in Daily Wire or National Review or the mainstream.
Not exactly stellar information sources...
Oh dear.
What a total balls-up.
How sad.
I've been given hell by very many people who accused me of falling under the influence of 'the dark side' on vaccination: should they happen to fall ill I would have to zip my mouth to stop laughing, but if they should happen to die I would genuinely miss them all: because they are not really bad people, they merely thought the science was on their side and failed to interrogate it with sufficient critical thinking or analysis. Arrogant and supercilious, yes. But not loathesome.
They are mostly bright people, computer software engineers, one or two teachers and even a top nurse manager, but I am the only one of them who studied Public Health Management, and it taught me to be very, very wary of any promises made by Big Pharma or the Media, and to have a total disrepect of elected policians.
Two questions.
1) Will poor immune response be limited to the CoV 2 family, or other respiratory viruses or other pathogens whether viral or bacterial?
2) ‘ even the folks i know who were still saying “thank goodness i got boosted it made my second time catching covid milder than it would have been!” are not going to be OK getting it a third time (as many vaccinated seem to be starting to be) and the fact that this is not happening to the unjabbed will get noticed, esp in the US. there is still a significant control group.’
Does this explain the incomprehensible continued push by Govts for people to get vaccinated to eliminate the non-vaxxed control group or the ‘just’ double vaxxed as a comparison group so comparisons cannot be made?
No and yes.
1. The poor immune response to covid specifically is due to priming the immune system to bypass innate & go directly to adaptive with a single type of antibody aimed at the most mutagenic part of the virion. The poor response to everything else is that the jabs suppress production of parts of the innate system (eg CD-8 cells, aka t-killers) that surveil & take out cancers just as they start and suppress things like herpes & shingles. Plus toxic spikes cause all kinds of problems, such as chronic generalized inflammation.
2. Yes. The government & pfizer are clearly trying to eliminate the control group. We are healthy, walking advertisements for their lies.
Eliminating the control group is part of it. That part is doomed to failure as there is enough resistance unless they start going door to door or make life so miserable that people give up.
Remember when Bill Gates wanted Windows on every desktop computer? Now it is a jab in every arm. Who is one of the world's biggest promoters of quackcination? Coincidence?
Deagle 2025. They want us de@d.
They need a certain number of people to run the machinery of the world. Beyond that, yes, they could be clearing out what they consider to be deadwood. What that number is, I have no idea, but so far the death rate does not tell us how well their plan is progressing, it is still a guessing game.
I think the idea with covid AIDS is that it will ultimately break down the immune system entirely, and not just with covid or cornoaviruses.
Definitely. You need a strong immune system to fight cancer and other serious diseases. I think people forget that. My fully vaccinated 50 yr old daughter has a small benign growth in her brain. No idea how long it’s been there but she has been monitored at times. I’m very afraid what may happen. She is all about the jab. Lives on Long Island NY so the indoctrination has worked.
I was also going to say Biden is already pushing a “long Covid” narrative that may be allowed as a basis for “disability” which will equal more crushing taxes to pay for it & a ton of potential for fraud, given how unspecific the growing list of “symptoms” is getting. All sorts of things that could be (& probably are) more attributable to other things but now included for WuFlu.
Also wondering how this will shake out societally - w/ the now majorly compromised duped being jealous &/or really angry at we who are not, & insisting on further mandates & ostracization from regular life unless we join the misery they inflicted on themselves
Your second paragraph summarizes my thoughts as well.
It depends on what people are offered coming out of this. i am looking for work right now. It is weird how the farther up you are on the ladder, the less they care. Entry level at the dollar store they test you twice a shift. Executive secretary, they don't ask. It is a class war...;
There is nothing like government action to warrant more government action. For some reason, damaging government actions warrant more government action as well...