I think I have an explanation on why no excess mortality for those ages 50-59 in the German data: This is the age bracket where you had the highest proportion of people who were sceptical of the entire Corona-sham. Old enough where school education was still good and enough life experience to be rightfully sceptical of Governments and also enjoying enough financial reserves and job security to be able to afford to show the Government the middle finger on all the corona measures.
Looks like this is the best we can come up as the control group.
I am very slightly older out of this age range but completely agree. A US citizen who had the good fortune to spend some time visiting in East Germany prior to the unification. This is the generation that came of age through that period where open questioning of government and policies was accepted/tolerated. I know my limited exposure had a huge effect on my world outlook and thought processes to this day.
Yes, there are certainly many people outside of that age group who were just as sceptical, like you. I am also more than a decade younger than this age group... But from my experience in anti-Corona demonstrations and membership in the party "Die Basis", which was founded out of frustration on the Corona-Measures, I have the feeling that the age composition of Corona-Sceptics can be best described as a bell-curve whose mean is around the age group of the 50-59.
If you go older you get quickly into an age group where fear for own health (rightfully or not, I really do not have the data to say) made most people take the jab, despite having an uneasy feeling because of the entire propaganda around this. Go younger, and you quickly get into the age group where education was shifted into "Government knows best for you" and most people are too indoctrinated to question anything.
Great experience for you! I was under the impression that most citizens of ex communist countries have well calibrated bullshit detectors, but a few weeks ago I met this mom from the DDR who was 18 when the wall came down. Out of literally nowhere she struck up a conversation with me about how whiny people were about the corona measures and they had no idea what they were talking about. Only she had it bad. So I asked her to tell me about it. She got to the part where her grandma in another town had to ask permission to come visit her own children. I said oh that’s interesting, I wasn’t allowed to visit my parents at all. And I belonged to a FB group of thousands of people who were in the same situation. She sheepishly said, well they had to do something! I said travel bans were explicitly discouraged in official pandemic planning papers, but yeah I guess they had to do something. Nothing tragic happened in my family, but we all know the horrible stories of the cruelty this bullshit crated. I was shocked by her attitude and only later figured out she is probably identifying with that victimhood and it’s worth more to her as an event in the past rather than dealing with the present. Had the same reaction in an awkward convo with the boomer rents last night. Discussing the beautiful series A Small Light and they said, gotta make sure it doesn’t happen again. Both of us kids burst out with: what can you mean? It is happening again!! 🤦🏼♀️
Has public education in Germany declined at the same rate as here in the States? If so, that's pretty frightening. We have now conditioned two generations of malleable drones who not only embrace and comply with any State-sponsored "official" narrative or Diktat, they willingly narc on their family, friends, neighbors and coworkers for the most minor infractions. The Stasi weren't really dead, only merely on hiatus.
(Brave) New World Order, here we come. As Tony Soprano's mother was fond of saying, "Lord, take me now."
It's the same timeline as New Zealand. Education began to decline rapidly with the cohort born in the 80s, to the point where we went from highest literacy rate in the OECD in the 70s to almost the lowest now, with around 40% of 15 yr olds unable to read and write.
That’s the way communism (or any dictatorship) works. Create mental weakness via poor education (& too much social media), then starve them until they’re too weak mentally and physically to resist. Add in the social brainwashing, lots of censorship, lots of propaganda from state run media and government, and bingo! Socialism/communism 101.
Gen-X here as well. 56 now. The age group 50-59 is peak Gen-X. I bet there are more people in that age group that DID NOT get the shots than the other age groups. Alot more people probably also lied about getting them and forged the ever-loving "papers please!" Me, I left my job rather than destroy my health for nothing.
I was 53. When people ask "when did I know?" I suspected in February of 2020 it was all a show when I talked to a friend in China. He said there would be panic, that it was coming, and I told him that I thought our reaction would be similar to the Bird Flu. But there were no more adults in the room in March, and they were probably already planning things to amp up fear in February.
Agreed…also the timing of our age group shots was apx at a year from when it all began and we had time to analyze the lack of dead bodies piling up, the insanity of the bribes to take the jab etc. our age group is old enough to remember Vietnam and the protesters vs the government yet we were just kids. We knew about agent orange but it was abstract to us because we were littles…We watched the Clinton impeachment trials and thought he was a loser for lying and should have just told everyone his blue dress issue was no ones biz! No gets a pass when they lie, we didn’t care that he messed around really just that he lied about it 🤷♀️..we came of age in the late 70’s and early 80’s, life was fun but we watched drugs go from cocaine and pot to synthetic drugs that killed… and we watched the Rodney King riots and couldn’t wrap our heads around “racial” fighting simply because as little kids we were influenced by hippies and free love and women burning bras…we were viscerally influenced that maybe..just maybe our gvt didn’t know everything. that’s us the ones 50-59. We believe “science” but we’re instructed to research and debate classes were mandatory. Those older than us saw vaccines as miracles like polio etc. we just saw them as routine healthcare…until someone says “you have to get it”, that’s when we question it. Honestly had our age group been up sooner we probably would have been in line also…but they gave us too much time to analyze. We are for the most part are empty nesters and don’t need to support kids just feed ourselves and closing in on retirement with some savings which gave us options to refuse simply because we could walk away from careers and perks easier. Do NOT think this has been an easy choice it has come at a great price to many of us and we’ve had to pivot what we thought our “golden years” were going to be. This is my theory on that age group.
Amen. I was inoculated against this early on by my (late) friend Rick, who always said "an idea so good,, it needs to be mandatory", meaning that if the idea was so good, then why mandate it? People should be lining up for good ideas. The reason they weren't was because it was a BAD idea.
I will respectfully disagree. We already had a lot of data before the pandemic officially began. And by data...I mean not only the data that existed, but that which was already clearly missing. China had their first reported case in December, but when was the last time the first reported case was the first actual case? Can something exist before it is discovered?
I already knew I wasn't masking before the mask mandates, and already knew I was going to hold off on the vaccine before it was even offered. I remember watching Trump go on about operation Warp Speed and shook my head. "Why do we need a vaccine for something with such a low death rate?"
I'm no mathematician, I am an artist and writer. But I do remember questioning a lot of math early and often. They said words like "exponential" in terms of case numbers. But I could manufacture exponential numbers if they numbers previously tested were zero.
Also words and phrases mean something. When you hear them repeated, like a mantra, a song lyric, or a poem, it makes us aware of them. "Flatten the curve, follow the science™, the science™ is settled, we're all in this together, sounded like advertisements. What kind of pandemic needs advertising?
Heck, there were even mottos that sounded like movie taglines.
"The biggest pandemic since the Spanish Flu"
"It's not just a flu."
"Don't Kill Grandma."
But if you looked at the numbers...the cases were "incremental" at best, and not by much. I felt like I was watching a very low rez, poorly executed video game of a pandemic. I mean, where were the guys in bunny suits walking through neighborhoods with megaphones demanding everyone remain in their homes. At least China had the temerity to performa such subterfuge.
No, I think if many of us do some introspection we will realize the seeds of our skepticism were there from the beginning. We may even find our narratives align with some of our contemporaries with "team reality."
My receipts are a comment on a Facebook post to a college friend from China in I believe either February or January of 2020 where he was warning of the panic and I was thinking there would be adults in the room in public institutions saying "Stop it" when there was a panic in the room. I clearly was wrong, and I bet there are others of us who had similar thoughts. After all, nothing new under the sun.
It wouldn't have taken much, but instead the panic rose to hurricane levels and how effective is it to scream "calm down" into a hurricane?
Jimmy Gleason, well put! I was a skeptic from day one, for precisely the reasons you outlined. I’m 70, born and raised in 3rd world countries, so just couldn’t get too excited over a virus with a 99.7% survival rate, to start with. Once the censorship of scientists/researchers kicked in I was well past understanding that this had nothing to do with wellness & everything to do with control. Every single aspect of this virus went against everything real & scientific that I’ve learned all these years. You don’t change science to match a political agenda.
Maybe this is one of the unintended consequences of helmeting, padding, and safety-proofing everyone. We have an unrealistic idea of what the measures mean. Did children think all of us adults had lethal bicycle and skateboarding accidents before pads were introduced? Did they think we all suffered severe head trauma before diving boards were removed from pools?
I think we understood the world was an unsafe place, that injuries could occur.
You’re so right. And judging by some of the ridiculous reactions we’ve seen from “adults” over the last 3 years, perhaps they WERE dropped on their heads when they were kids!
Jimmy Gleason speaks with my words! Admittedly, I have a rather virulent streak of "if you tell me the government is lying, I will tell you 'It must be Tuesday'" but even the most trusting person HAS to start to sniff the feces when catchphrases are the normal course of events. I would drive by electronic billboards in NY State, where I live and when they said, "Mask up. It's a small ask." cringe with anger. What difference is that phrase than, "Better ingredients. Better Pizza. Papa Johns!" Bottom line, the U.S. is a country chock full of people happy to be led around by the nose. The rest of us are conspiracy theorists and tin-foil hat wearers. Luckily for me, my tin-foil hat has a chinstrap, so I can wear it comfortably at all times!
For as long as I can remember, I've known the government lies. They lie about keeping campaign promises, they lie about assisting others, they lie about remembering things. But for me it rose to 11 when government was telling us all to act on those lies.
Mask up, it's a small ask?
Speaking of advertising slogans, you could have replaced the Papa John's ad with "Experimental Ingredients, Experimental Responses, Pfizer's mRNA vaccine.
Or I would have gone with an old Coca Cola slogan "Catch the Wave."
Your tinfoil hat as a chin strap? Mine was stapled on my head.
Yes, I was waiting for ‘the adults’ to stand up too! When it didn’t happen was when I truly realized our whole society(not culture)had been hijacked over the years by a very devious cabal. I say (not culture) because much of the bedrock of our culture still stands and many individuals resisted, but they were people with no real power as individuals for the most part. It’s the institutions of society and government which had been hijacked. I had already been red pilled about many things, but the brazenness and totally of this is what stunned me. This was really a form of stealth coup. No doubt it had been planned.
I also have receipts, and most of my family (vaccinated one and all) won't allow any mention of this issue. I knew clearly as soon as the data started coming out of N. Italy in Jan-Feb 20. It was and old folks disease and an institutional disease. 5 minutes of research was enough to know that there would not be a useful vaccine - EVER.
Some people see reality more clearly than others and that group seem to have more than a healthy disrespect for "government trying to help" as well.
All the reality was right there for them to see. The flu has a vaccine every year, and yet somehow there was a disconnect. We could stop Covid in its tracks if we all took the vaccine. Forget the fact that if we did hold down and jab everyone, there are still animal reservoirs to the disease.
That was my thought too. I’m in this demographic and peers, esp those in good overall health, were not vaxxing or wearing masks at nearly the level of 20-somethings and the 65+ group. (USA)
You actually needed some life experience and wisdom to see that this was a massively hyped shamdemic. That takes character. The young folk I know in Scotland were mostly pretty spineless conformists.
While anecdotally I do see many more 20-somethings masked up than the non-20s, it's not clear that "life experience" is sufficient to convey "wisdom."
The Chinese have a saying: "Beware the man that tells you he has 20 years experience when really he's just had 1 year of exerience 20 times."
There were and are way waaaaay too many people of all ages, races, caste, and neighborhood that continue to mask and are proud of all 6 of their boosters. I wish being old was enough.
"The young folk I know in Scotland were mostly pretty spineless conformists."
I used to have much more respect for giant hairy man who'd where a skirt commando style. William Wallace must be rolling over in his grave.
Completely agree - the solid gen-x'ers. I, and most of my aged friends, did not get it or got one and said no more. It's the attitude of we survived living without tracking, no helmets, out on our own, left home young (in some cases), and are all around a tougher lot. There's much more critical thought amongst us.
Oh, I do like that! The youngest house I have ever lived in was built in 1928 (others, 1780, 1828)--and that lead paint sure does stick to the surface, keeping it protected. (watching neighbors' houses peel away in 10-20 years.
But I have been trying to live a better life through Chemistry. I am a scientist, after all. *sniffs, has thought, loses thought, recalls drum circle from '83* What were we just talking about?
My recollection is "better living through chemistry" - and I was a firm adherent back in the 70's of running all kinds of different chemistries through my system.
We ran around in woods with plastic guns and pretending to fight one another unsupervised. We dug holes, raked out trails, built dams. My mom would blow a whistle to call us home for dinner. I wonder if she felt any measure of anxiety awaiting our arrival.
I was fortunate enough to live in a similar world. We were creatures of the wild. And no, Mum was NOT subject to "any measure of anxiety". The "big kids", the 10 and 11 year olds knew elementary first aid, and would run to find adults to deal with broken bones, or bleeding that wouldn't stop.
Great point! Many of us Gen Xers are a cynical and deeply skeptical lot, and tend to lean in a "leave me alone, I can take care of myself" libertarian sort of direction. Insightful hypothesis. Well done.
As a boomer (age 73) whose teen years were the mid to late 1960s, none of us trusted the government and we had a mantra of "Never trust anyone over 30". My scepticsm detector has been fully operational since then, so I was primed throughout my life to look askance at the whole covid charade.
I think its more than that. My mom is near exactly your age, grew up in a conservative catholic community where there was no exposure for her to the hippie movement. She was quite sheltered. The most she ever rebelled against her elders was to become born again Christian instead of Catholic, but not trusting people over 30 didn't enter her thoughts. Yet, she, too, saw through all of this, never took a shot. I'm proud of her.
Young boomers part of this too. I'd expand your age bracket at the older end a bit--maybe to those under age 68 or so. Too young to participate in the Vietnam War protests but came of age in the 60s-70s with college in later 70s.
Adding something to that: what about the Bill Gates & co (e.g., Obama) complete restructuring of our education systems? Did something happen in the late 90s/early 2000s that destroyed the valuation of independent thought and action that was taken for granted in earlier U.S. educational ideologies?
No Child Left Behind was in 2011, the absolute disgrace and capture effort that it was, but one thinks much was going on before this as well.
Ah right, that's correct. No Child Left Behind set up the precedent for the Gates takeover of U.S. education. It was a bunch of standardized testing stuff. Testing is a good way to measure competence but the issue is that if that's the only outcome then people learn how to take tests well but they tend to not learn how to think outside that pattern.
In other words, we can expect the next assault to be more focused on the 45-65 age bracket (with local national variances of course).
Those older no matter if they are recalcitrant sceptics are on their way out anyway, and those younger are not only compliant but just plain pliant.
Heh, I still remember when "flexible" was made a buzzword in job ads, career courses and other HR-bullshit. "Flexible, eh? You mean someone who just bends over for any pressure whatsoever?"
Did not go over well with the HR-lady from the school board. Still, worth it since no-one took her seriously after her "little episode" in the teacher's lounge.
Very plausible explanation. Plus a number of the experienced critical care physicians, cardiologists, epidemiologists, virologists, etc. that had the courage to suggest alternative points of view happened to be in this age bracket, and were perhaps seen as more relatable.
Agree. Not only our life history, but also at that age range (50's) many are prepared for early retirement. We saw what happened to those before us and took to heart the idea we might be sacked for outsourced or imported labour at 45 and prepared accordingly.
Interesting. I was 57 when this mess started and I called bs from day one. I have a few former classmates I know that felt the same, one who was a nurse and basically had to retire as she was mandated the jab. However, I also have some in my age cohort that were totally willing to accept as many shots as they’d give them. One of my sons was against it all, the other not as much but just did it to get along. My like minded former classmates also could smell the bs, so maybe a slight generational echo.
It was difficult to remain in the " control" group, I never masked, tested or injected, unfortunately I know of nobody else that resisted, too inconvenient for most. Fear was the real disease.
Yes, and ... perhaps that age group had "less to lose" in terms of losing their job, being fired, being refused hire ... having savings in the bank, retirement nest egg in fairly good shape ... and, perhaps some this age -- because of their experience -- even had enough leverage [enough value to their organization] to say 'keep me on un-vaxxed, or fire me un-vaxxed, your choice ... make up your own exemption'.
There's still 30% of the US population in the control group. That is huge for a long-term medical study on the bioweapon shots. Seriously, why doesn't some researcher do a study and compare the health of shotted versus unshotted - A LONG TERM STUDY. I would gladly sign up for that study in the control group.
I wonder how they know the figure is 30%. I know a lot of fools were vaxxed, but I meet a LOT of people now who admit to being unvaxxed. Perhaps they were hiding it before? I suspect the number might be higher than 30%.
IIRC (sorry, too out of it to scare up the stats) my home state of Indiana only ever achieved about 40% jab rates. Red state, certainly, with a blue island called Bloomington.
I’d love to see the study but no way I’d participate...All my trust is gone, so wouldn’t want to be part of something that would be manipulated and used to humanity’s detriment
"The reason they aren't fighting Climate Change in China is because they're already Communist."
For this reason alone, we will continue to experience "emergencies" that require urgent, ex-Constitutional, liberty-stealing actions on the part of our benevolent governmental agencies.
While i agree with the sentiment, last I checked democrats advocated for masking children (and did it) for two years for political expediency and cowardness.
How long did they lockdown vs. Red states?
Do you need more examples?
This is coming from a guy who would be considered in the "middle" prior to 2016; but now a far right conspiRACIST.
Funny how my position hasn't changed, but the label has.
It seemed appropriate but I've moved onto the "Elephant and Ass Show" when I really mean "A Pox on Both Your Houses." It hit me when I was reading @Lillia Gejweski's on her Substack "And so it goes..."
This battle has taken a toll but we cannot stop now that things are getting back to "normal". I am sad that the Substackers I follow are becoming more silent and/or are moving on to other topics. This article is awesome!
Nobody in my circle in Canada has woken up and the evil agenda pushes forward. Not sure what it will take for the masses to awaken to what was so obvious to the rest of us. I fear that nothing will wake them up and we are doomed until God steps in to stop this insanity.
I’m in Canada as well. I’m lucky and have a couple of people in my circle who have been awake with me the entire time. I will be grateful to them for the rest of my life.
I’m coming to the conclusion that if they aren’t awake by now, it is by choice. They all know something isn’t right, they refuse to acknowledge they made a mistake; they refuse to accept they were manipulated, that they trusted the wrong people.
I get it. I remember being in an abusive relationship. Denial is a strong defence mechanism. Ask any addict!
In order for a person to accept the truth/reality, they must be willing to change. If there is no will to change, there will be no will to accept reason or logic that counters their current view. People will continue to grasp after whatever reality they perceive fits in with their narrative. They aren’t interested in the truth.
People are dropping dead all around us. How much more real life data do you need?
I wrote a letter to my family. I explained to them that I wouldn’t be able to engage in a relationship with them unless I could be authentic and honest. I will not remain silent to comfort them. Their welfare is more important than the lies they are holding to. It’s their choice whether or not they want me in their life or the lies. They can’t have both. I will not allow it.
What quality of friend/family am I to remain silent and watch them poison themselves and their children? Do they expect me to participate in their suicide? Do they expect me to watch them abuse their children? I don’t think so. It says a lot about someone’s character to remain silent while their friends and family kill themselves.
There is no neutral. I think that’s where people think they are. If they just comply or remain silent, they are somehow not participating. They are lying to themselves. Remaining silent/doing nothing is an act of evil itself. Evil wins because of cowardice.
My siblings and their immediate families are awake and thankfully unvaccinated. It’s the older generation, our parents, aunts and uncles, who are all indoctrinated. They are Catholics and obey authority well.
I just got word that my mothers husband’s cancer has returned and he’s been given a short term to live. They will follow whatever instructions they are given by the cult of the medics. She’s co-dependent and a master of denial. It’s the perfect recipe for cult membership.
I’m not saying it’s easy. I’m angry, I grieve constantly, I cried every day for 6 months and lost 40 pounds when the vaccine mandates were implemented. I was in complete shock how quickly everyone showed their true colours and turned their backs on each other, all because some corrupt politician on TV told them to 🤢😡
Overnight, I was suddenly beneath them. I was a second class citizen. I was the problem. Are you kidding me? Keep soaking up the lies and telling yourself you’re “doing the right thing”.
I am a helper by nature. I can’t help anyone who doesn’t want my help. It’s out of my hands. Just like communication - it takes 2. I can try to relay a message in 17 different ways. If the person on the receiving end doesn’t want to hear me, it’s out of my hands. I tried and tried and that’s all I can do.
I’m very sorry. Similar things happened to me in my family and friend groups. Funny enough, it’s my most devout Catholic friends who DIDN’T get jabbed—must be a generational thing. Basically, those who said ugly things or didn’t invite us to Christmas are acting like it’s all good and everything is back to normal. I forgive them, but I will never feel the same about them.
I’m in Canada too. I have some allies, some wishy washy chameleons, and some who refuse (still!) to even discuss this with me. Who excluded me for my choice. Your point about denial is spot on.
I’m just tired of feeling like I’m being perceived as the irrational addict by the rule followers--their refusal to discuss reminds me of how I used to deal with the addict in my life, when he went irrational on me. “I’m not engaging in this conversation anymore” -- “This is my boundary”. Seriously, a rule following CBCer recently pulled the “boundaries” idea on me when I reached out to her months after our falling out. Told me she needed a clear boundary that we won’t discuss this.
Censorship!!!
I wanted to extend an olive branch AND see if she’d softened at all. NOPE!
It’s so exhausting. And terrifying that these people still insist to not see what’s all around them.
Same here, Pi. I am current working on finding agreeable others. It is not easy. People here in suburban Phila. Still believe in masks and the magical 6 feet, not to mention the jab.
I know that handling personal/family relationships is tricky at the best of times. But without a "mea culpa", I am inclined to write off the idiots (including a sister-in-law who is a nurse trainer at a large Boston-area hospital) who accused me of being a danger to them!
There are a few friendships that have changed into aquaintence-ships for me. These people showed their true colors as little would be notsees. Yes, we can still socialize pleasantly but how can these people be trusted without a change of heart of their part?
My ex brother-in-law, sat next to him at a wedding in the UK yesterday, Professor, no less, at Harvard MIT and works at the Mass Gen....."so, you think the vax mandates were a good thing, do you?" I ask him..."oh yes, he says"...."oh really" say I - "but why, if a vaccine protects you, not others, do you force it on others?"...."rate of transmissibility" he says..."so what", say I, "if you're vaccinated you're protected, no?" He just gaped at me and talked about how overstretched the hospital was..."oh really", say I, "how come all the doctor and nurse tik tok vids then?"...."oh, they were just to relax". Total idiot. Questioned nothing. I got the impression it was all very exciting for them, and he enjoyed the drama.
I’ve got a Harvard Med/MIT ex-professor friend as well who thinks the jabs should be mandatory across the board. Still. His lack of coherence on the topic and the data, and his trust in the NY Times (which my husband occasionally wrote for during the pandemic and had inside info from and therefore could never trust), both baffles and amazes me. I’m not going to stop our discourse. I’m going to live in hope that eventually reason and logic will awaken him.
A prof of organic agriculture friend gushed with glee over the cleverness of Mrna - half his face now reveals acquaintance with Guillain Barre syndrome. Intellectual prowess sometimes inhibits functional common sense.
For a peer-reviewed study published in a mainstream journal, this was actually quite bold. Its criticism of the Paul Ehrlich Institute was withering to the point of sarcasm:
"Given the temporal relationship between the increase in vaccinations and excess mortality, it seems surprising that a respective safety signal has not been detected in the pharmacovigilance by the Paul-Ehrlich-Institut (PEI), which is responsible for the safety monitoring of drugs in Germany. A closer inspection of the methods used by the PEI to monitor possibly deadly side effects of the COVID-19 vaccinations reveals that a flawed safety analysis is used that will not indicate a safety signal even if a vaccine causes extremely large numbers of unexpected deaths."
My 27 year old son was NOT jabbed (was not allowed in the office but thankfully “allowed” to work from home) and was just diagnosed with viral cardiomyopathy. It’s been whispered to us that we should be glad he wasn’t vaxxed. We are still sad and in shock. If he lives 10 years he will be lucky. His case of Covid was literally a cold. Would be grateful for any leads on best treatment practices or top cardio teams. We are in Raleigh, NC. Many thanks.
I am unjabbed but had a nasty bout of covid in October 2022. I am still having fatigue and heart fluttering. The virus itself is a bioweapon along with the jab.
I agree! I have done two live blood analysis consultations with different practitioners and my blood looked like jabbed blood. I am so angry that I was shunned and scorned for being unjabbed but now I am suffering from shedding too.
Reach out to dr. Peter McCullough who practices in Texas. One of the top cardiologists in the world in my opinion. Also Pierre Kory is extremely knowledgeable on treating these sorts of things. I’m sorry to hear about your son prayers that they will be able to help lengthen his life for him.
Not likely effective in treating the myocarditis. Parts of the IRecover may be part of his therapy, but the myocarditis will need a special and probably aggressive approach. I’m an MD and have met McCullough. I would start with him.
Yes the protocol works on long Covid , any kind of Covid related side effects and the jab side effects. Dr. Pierre Kory is part of FLCCC. You can also sign up to watch their zoom calls every Wednesday night at seven Eastern standard time. They are importing all kinds of good information that could help your son. I live in North Carolina as well so glad to know that others in our state are subscribing here.
I love the FLCCC and support them in all ways. I will reach out. As you know, the hospitals at UNC and Duke don’t much subscribed to FLCCC protocols. 🙄
If your son did come in contact with someone that had recently been vaccinated there is a good chance that he could have been shed on and that is what caused his myocarditis instead of the natural virus. That would be a question to ask the doctor. You have to choose the right doctor because most medical doctors have also been blinded to the truth, but there are hundreds in the United States that are awake and know exactly what is going on.
Cardiologists use medications & devices. There are more options than just that.
1. Minimize duration of viral infections because they often damage blood vessels and strain the heart. Most viruses that cause respiratory infections are single-stranded RNA. I'd tell my son to keep elderberry concentrate stocked and to treat when he has any symptoms like a runny nose, cough, or sneezing. 1 tbl 2x / day for one day longer than symptoms. There are RCTs showing that elderberry extract reduces symptom duration of flu by 2 days. This means that viral load and damage are minimized. Elderberry concentrate works even better than the extract.
2. But it's better to not even become symptomatic. The strategy for this is to keep vit D levels around 50 ng/ml (125 nMoles/Liter in UK). If I were your son, I'd keep some calcifediol (vit D metabolite) stocked as vit D levels vary and infections occur when vit D levels are lower. High vit D levels help to minimize inflammatory damage from infections. Vit D concentrations at this level can produce some plaques on blood vessels if vit K2 isn't taken with it, so I'd recommend to my son that he take 100 mg of vit K2 with every 5,000 units of D3. And magnesium deficiency is common and magnesium is needed for best effect of D3 absorption and vit D activity, so drinking alkaline water will help keep magnesium levels up.
3. Vit D should be taken with a high fat meal to get much absorption. Lots of people miss this and don't see much impact on their levels from supplementation of D3. Either a greasy burger or 2 oz of cheese or 2 eggs should do. Not skim milk with bran flakes.
4. Your son has high risk during sleep. This means that he shouldn't live by himself and he should wear a device with a loud, audible alert which will sound if his heart stops. Your son needs to keep a defibrillator stocked and on hand and maintained and people trained in its use living with him.
5. If your son engages in moderate exercise for a couple of hours each time for 3x a week, he will keep his heart as strong as possible. This is best in the context of a hobby, like hiking or paddleball or golf, in a group. Again, best if he carries a portable defibrillator with him and informs his group leader about its use.
With these modest interventions, your son may live to dance at his granddaughter's wedding.
Thank you sooo much! If only he would listen to us. He only listens to his cardiologist. 😕💔 Very few will “prescribe” supplements and I know how important they are.
Try not to be so pessimistic. Many, if not most, cases of viral myocarditis resolve without affecting longevity. I echo Beverly Fischer: Peter McCullough, Pierre Kory, Paul Marik. But time is of the essence and they may be recommending immediate treatment with corticosteroids and/or IVM. Stopping the inflammation is vital to preserve as much heart muscle as possible. Start by calling McCullough’s office today!
In my earlier post I didn’t see this post that he is in cardiac failure. Call McCullough, Kory or Marik today and stress the urgency so you don’t have to wait too long for an appt.
Reach out to dr. Peter McCullough who practices in Texas. One of the top cardiologists in the world in my opinion. Also Pierre Kory is extremely knowledgeable on treating these sorts of things. I’m sorry to hear about your son prayers that they will be able to help lengthen his life for him.
Just a weird observation: the 50 - 59 age bracket seems to have relatively fewer excess deaths. I noticed in my highly vaccinated state that age bracket also had the highest number of vaccine holdouts. Maybe really old gen-xers are a bit more skeptical than everyone else. Huzzah for us.
Not all of us. I grew up “questioning authority” and still do. I am a Boomer (class if ‘72) and a lawyer. I have been very disappointed in my generation and my professional colleagues, who seemed to lap up every lie like Biden and his ice cream cones.
I too am a Boomer who did not take the jab. To be fair, however, even this piece emphasizes the risk to the elderly. I have long felt the catch all “elderly”was less than accurate. Elderly with several health conditions, certainly. Nursing home residents were at very high risk. But, most of my close in age acquaintances have done well.
It's amazing how these people think that holding the same ideological positions as pretty much all of BigGov, BigAcademia, BigFarma, BigHollywood, and BigCity think _they_ are The Rebels.
Agree with MeriBear. My experience in fighting the Empire in the late ‘60’s helped me to see through the Covid plot immediately. I was shocked and surprised, though, to see so many contemporaries willingly roll up their sleeve. Many are paying the price now. I have a list of 25 friends and personal acquaintances who either have serious cancer, are already dead or have other serious vaxx injuries. Latest is a former colleague dead of a clot and intracranial bleed last week.
Ditto. Early experience of pharma corruption and fraud meant I could see Fauci and Gallo back in the AIDS crisis days were obviously pulling a scam and I haven't trusted a word he's said since. Which meant 2003, 2005 and 2009 were also obvious scams. When they did it again in 2019 I was gobsmacked they were still using the same 'beast-from-the-east' script! But SO many of my lifelong left wing friends fell for it and STILL refuse to see it even though they've lost relatives and had health challenges themselves as a result of the transfections. Unbelievable really.
I saw the opposite, at the point when Shane Warne died at age 52, I noticed many celebrities also dying at 52. This may be Australia specific observations because celebs in their 50s were highly vexed here
For a cat, you have a wonderfully purrfect analysis of the litter of data. For me...ow...I never wanted to take a stab and end up on a slab. Remember, remember, big pharma isn’t about health, it’s about 💰 Cheers 🐱
I wouldn't call the pandemic a "panic" as much as an "orchestrated panic". It was a sad excuse for a pandemic, a "pseudo-pandemic" as Iain Davis has called it. In short it was a hoax, a fear-mongering scam. Most fell for it. Those who concocted the scam did not. They plotted in a cold careful manner, much of which is visible for anyone to see on YouTube and other Internet sites.
A cynic might phrase that, "Covid was designed as the perfect excuse to print up trillions of dollars to paper over the fundamental problems in the system".
Governments entire ethos is “punishment by process”, to wear you down, exhaust you til you just go away or quit. Never answering emails or the phone, or endless “holds”, mountains of forms and paperwork and bureaucratic hoops to jump through - it is all by design, to keep you “out of their hair.” And that’s just the day to day stuff. When it comes to something they want to hide or bury you meet a nearly impenetrable force that can have you spinning wheels for years.
They definitely want the facts behind the Covid nightmare buried for all time, not just to avoid their complicity and guilt, but so that they can do it again, having “perfected” this opaque system of corruption.
Receipts must be kept, compiled and guarded -and fought for, no matter how exhausting the battle, or they will most assuredly do it again. That is why they MUST be held to account.
It is amazing that since Trudeau took office, more than 30,000 federal employees have been added to payroll yet the service they provide to us, the tax payers, the very people who pay their salaries, has gone so far down in quality that you’d think there were no employees! If you’re interested in getting paid a lot for doing nothing - the Canadian government is looking for you!
My municipal government responds to maybe 1 out of every 5 email inquiries and it’s usually about 3 months later and consists of pointing the finger to another department/person. Zero accountability and yet taxes keep going up.
I run a business. If my staff ignored a customer inquiry for even 24 hours, they would be written up. If it happened again, they would be let go. Period.
Damn straight. I’m not for “forgive and forget” in this circumstance. These people, these global elite wannabes, did this with malice of forethought and intent. They need to pay here and now as well as in the hereafter where our Lord will render the ultimate justice.
I am willing to forgive and forget but first a change, an admission of wrong doing and repentance is required on the part of the wrong doers.
I think of Jesus' parable of the prodigal son: the son squandered his fathers money, sought out a dissolute lifestyle but repented of his ways and sought out his father's forgiveness in humility.
To somewhat play devil’s advocate the fact that there were zero “healthy” deaths in that age group is a lot less reassuring when you look at the general health status of Americans in that age range. (Yes I know the study was in Israel.) Obesity early on was identified as a comorbidity resulting in adverse outcomes, some 20% of children in the US are obese. Asthma was another comorbidity of concern and 6 million children in the US have asthma. None of that excuses the actions taken by the government, but the fact that no healthy people died doesn’t really matter when a large chunk of your populace isn’t healthy. Of course the proper response to that would be to get people to focus on their health, to get people to lose weight, get outside, get more Vitamin D etc etc and governments did the opposite so that pretty much tells us what we need to know about their intentions.
"Of course the proper response to that would be to get people to focus on their health, to get people to lose weight, get outside, get more Vitamin D etc etc"
But getting people to eat right and exercise offers such little opportunity for graft!
The 20th century provides a long and horrific record of the tens of millions of people murdered by their own governments, all of whom tried desperately to cover it all up. South Africa, WW1, WW2, Cambodia, Uganda, China, USSR, North Korea, Iran, Bosnia/Herzegovina, Rwanda, etc, etc, etc. Historians will record this whole Covid disaster as being one more governmental program of murder, but only if it's true causes, the players involved, and consequences/results are brought forth into the light of day. We cannot let this be buried under the weight of "the next story" about how some mentally ill organization allowed some mentally ill boy to compete in a girls sporting event, or Chinese spy balloons, or about what a bad person Trump is.
The below comments contain a theory as to why the death-rate was so low in the 50-59 age group and I am in agreement. I'm 67 and I very much remember the 60's/70's and the post-Vietnam disillusionment with all things government. People in power will try to hide that which they know they screwed up and they know they screwed this up. Actually, I think they knew it from the very start but once they boarded the train, they didn't know how to get off. And so now they are doing everything they can to bury the results and keep them buried. This is why it's taking lawsuits and FOIA's and persistence to break this information loose.
Our kids and grandkids desperately need people like you to keep lifting the rocks and expose all the bugs, slime, and dirt because thru learning what went wrong this time, they may be the next generation that says, "Wait a minute, do you remember what happened during the Coronadoom thing back in grandpa's day?"
I think I have an explanation on why no excess mortality for those ages 50-59 in the German data: This is the age bracket where you had the highest proportion of people who were sceptical of the entire Corona-sham. Old enough where school education was still good and enough life experience to be rightfully sceptical of Governments and also enjoying enough financial reserves and job security to be able to afford to show the Government the middle finger on all the corona measures.
Looks like this is the best we can come up as the control group.
I am very slightly older out of this age range but completely agree. A US citizen who had the good fortune to spend some time visiting in East Germany prior to the unification. This is the generation that came of age through that period where open questioning of government and policies was accepted/tolerated. I know my limited exposure had a huge effect on my world outlook and thought processes to this day.
I'm a little older than that group but I retired from my job rather than submit to these manic dictates.
Me too
Yes, there are certainly many people outside of that age group who were just as sceptical, like you. I am also more than a decade younger than this age group... But from my experience in anti-Corona demonstrations and membership in the party "Die Basis", which was founded out of frustration on the Corona-Measures, I have the feeling that the age composition of Corona-Sceptics can be best described as a bell-curve whose mean is around the age group of the 50-59.
If you go older you get quickly into an age group where fear for own health (rightfully or not, I really do not have the data to say) made most people take the jab, despite having an uneasy feeling because of the entire propaganda around this. Go younger, and you quickly get into the age group where education was shifted into "Government knows best for you" and most people are too indoctrinated to question anything.
Great experience for you! I was under the impression that most citizens of ex communist countries have well calibrated bullshit detectors, but a few weeks ago I met this mom from the DDR who was 18 when the wall came down. Out of literally nowhere she struck up a conversation with me about how whiny people were about the corona measures and they had no idea what they were talking about. Only she had it bad. So I asked her to tell me about it. She got to the part where her grandma in another town had to ask permission to come visit her own children. I said oh that’s interesting, I wasn’t allowed to visit my parents at all. And I belonged to a FB group of thousands of people who were in the same situation. She sheepishly said, well they had to do something! I said travel bans were explicitly discouraged in official pandemic planning papers, but yeah I guess they had to do something. Nothing tragic happened in my family, but we all know the horrible stories of the cruelty this bullshit crated. I was shocked by her attitude and only later figured out she is probably identifying with that victimhood and it’s worth more to her as an event in the past rather than dealing with the present. Had the same reaction in an awkward convo with the boomer rents last night. Discussing the beautiful series A Small Light and they said, gotta make sure it doesn’t happen again. Both of us kids burst out with: what can you mean? It is happening again!! 🤦🏼♀️
"She sheepishly said, well they had to do something!"
There's good reason to be sheepish if you actually say this sort of thing out loud.
Ha ha thanks for the guffaw. We see it the same!
Has public education in Germany declined at the same rate as here in the States? If so, that's pretty frightening. We have now conditioned two generations of malleable drones who not only embrace and comply with any State-sponsored "official" narrative or Diktat, they willingly narc on their family, friends, neighbors and coworkers for the most minor infractions. The Stasi weren't really dead, only merely on hiatus.
(Brave) New World Order, here we come. As Tony Soprano's mother was fond of saying, "Lord, take me now."
It's the same timeline as New Zealand. Education began to decline rapidly with the cohort born in the 80s, to the point where we went from highest literacy rate in the OECD in the 70s to almost the lowest now, with around 40% of 15 yr olds unable to read and write.
That’s the way communism (or any dictatorship) works. Create mental weakness via poor education (& too much social media), then starve them until they’re too weak mentally and physically to resist. Add in the social brainwashing, lots of censorship, lots of propaganda from state run media and government, and bingo! Socialism/communism 101.
That is truly, madly, deeply sad.
Mw wife and I traveled through E. Germany on the way to a demonstration against the Vietnam War being held in Berlin. What an eye-opener!
Yes. 56 at the time this mess started. I knew better.
Gen-X here as well. 56 now. The age group 50-59 is peak Gen-X. I bet there are more people in that age group that DID NOT get the shots than the other age groups. Alot more people probably also lied about getting them and forged the ever-loving "papers please!" Me, I left my job rather than destroy my health for nothing.
I was 53. When people ask "when did I know?" I suspected in February of 2020 it was all a show when I talked to a friend in China. He said there would be panic, that it was coming, and I told him that I thought our reaction would be similar to the Bird Flu. But there were no more adults in the room in March, and they were probably already planning things to amp up fear in February.
China-Italy-NYC-Me-too Freakout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed…also the timing of our age group shots was apx at a year from when it all began and we had time to analyze the lack of dead bodies piling up, the insanity of the bribes to take the jab etc. our age group is old enough to remember Vietnam and the protesters vs the government yet we were just kids. We knew about agent orange but it was abstract to us because we were littles…We watched the Clinton impeachment trials and thought he was a loser for lying and should have just told everyone his blue dress issue was no ones biz! No gets a pass when they lie, we didn’t care that he messed around really just that he lied about it 🤷♀️..we came of age in the late 70’s and early 80’s, life was fun but we watched drugs go from cocaine and pot to synthetic drugs that killed… and we watched the Rodney King riots and couldn’t wrap our heads around “racial” fighting simply because as little kids we were influenced by hippies and free love and women burning bras…we were viscerally influenced that maybe..just maybe our gvt didn’t know everything. that’s us the ones 50-59. We believe “science” but we’re instructed to research and debate classes were mandatory. Those older than us saw vaccines as miracles like polio etc. we just saw them as routine healthcare…until someone says “you have to get it”, that’s when we question it. Honestly had our age group been up sooner we probably would have been in line also…but they gave us too much time to analyze. We are for the most part are empty nesters and don’t need to support kids just feed ourselves and closing in on retirement with some savings which gave us options to refuse simply because we could walk away from careers and perks easier. Do NOT think this has been an easy choice it has come at a great price to many of us and we’ve had to pivot what we thought our “golden years” were going to be. This is my theory on that age group.
Amen. I was inoculated against this early on by my (late) friend Rick, who always said "an idea so good,, it needs to be mandatory", meaning that if the idea was so good, then why mandate it? People should be lining up for good ideas. The reason they weren't was because it was a BAD idea.
I agree with Rick and would add. a pandemic so bad, it needs advertising.
Excellent paraphrasing!
I will respectfully disagree. We already had a lot of data before the pandemic officially began. And by data...I mean not only the data that existed, but that which was already clearly missing. China had their first reported case in December, but when was the last time the first reported case was the first actual case? Can something exist before it is discovered?
I already knew I wasn't masking before the mask mandates, and already knew I was going to hold off on the vaccine before it was even offered. I remember watching Trump go on about operation Warp Speed and shook my head. "Why do we need a vaccine for something with such a low death rate?"
I'm no mathematician, I am an artist and writer. But I do remember questioning a lot of math early and often. They said words like "exponential" in terms of case numbers. But I could manufacture exponential numbers if they numbers previously tested were zero.
Also words and phrases mean something. When you hear them repeated, like a mantra, a song lyric, or a poem, it makes us aware of them. "Flatten the curve, follow the science™, the science™ is settled, we're all in this together, sounded like advertisements. What kind of pandemic needs advertising?
Heck, there were even mottos that sounded like movie taglines.
"The biggest pandemic since the Spanish Flu"
"It's not just a flu."
"Don't Kill Grandma."
But if you looked at the numbers...the cases were "incremental" at best, and not by much. I felt like I was watching a very low rez, poorly executed video game of a pandemic. I mean, where were the guys in bunny suits walking through neighborhoods with megaphones demanding everyone remain in their homes. At least China had the temerity to performa such subterfuge.
No, I think if many of us do some introspection we will realize the seeds of our skepticism were there from the beginning. We may even find our narratives align with some of our contemporaries with "team reality."
My receipts are a comment on a Facebook post to a college friend from China in I believe either February or January of 2020 where he was warning of the panic and I was thinking there would be adults in the room in public institutions saying "Stop it" when there was a panic in the room. I clearly was wrong, and I bet there are others of us who had similar thoughts. After all, nothing new under the sun.
It wouldn't have taken much, but instead the panic rose to hurricane levels and how effective is it to scream "calm down" into a hurricane?
Jimmy Gleason, well put! I was a skeptic from day one, for precisely the reasons you outlined. I’m 70, born and raised in 3rd world countries, so just couldn’t get too excited over a virus with a 99.7% survival rate, to start with. Once the censorship of scientists/researchers kicked in I was well past understanding that this had nothing to do with wellness & everything to do with control. Every single aspect of this virus went against everything real & scientific that I’ve learned all these years. You don’t change science to match a political agenda.
Maybe this is one of the unintended consequences of helmeting, padding, and safety-proofing everyone. We have an unrealistic idea of what the measures mean. Did children think all of us adults had lethal bicycle and skateboarding accidents before pads were introduced? Did they think we all suffered severe head trauma before diving boards were removed from pools?
I think we understood the world was an unsafe place, that injuries could occur.
You’re so right. And judging by some of the ridiculous reactions we’ve seen from “adults” over the last 3 years, perhaps they WERE dropped on their heads when they were kids!
Jimmy Gleason speaks with my words! Admittedly, I have a rather virulent streak of "if you tell me the government is lying, I will tell you 'It must be Tuesday'" but even the most trusting person HAS to start to sniff the feces when catchphrases are the normal course of events. I would drive by electronic billboards in NY State, where I live and when they said, "Mask up. It's a small ask." cringe with anger. What difference is that phrase than, "Better ingredients. Better Pizza. Papa Johns!" Bottom line, the U.S. is a country chock full of people happy to be led around by the nose. The rest of us are conspiracy theorists and tin-foil hat wearers. Luckily for me, my tin-foil hat has a chinstrap, so I can wear it comfortably at all times!
For as long as I can remember, I've known the government lies. They lie about keeping campaign promises, they lie about assisting others, they lie about remembering things. But for me it rose to 11 when government was telling us all to act on those lies.
Mask up, it's a small ask?
Speaking of advertising slogans, you could have replaced the Papa John's ad with "Experimental Ingredients, Experimental Responses, Pfizer's mRNA vaccine.
Or I would have gone with an old Coca Cola slogan "Catch the Wave."
Your tinfoil hat as a chin strap? Mine was stapled on my head.
Yes, I was waiting for ‘the adults’ to stand up too! When it didn’t happen was when I truly realized our whole society(not culture)had been hijacked over the years by a very devious cabal. I say (not culture) because much of the bedrock of our culture still stands and many individuals resisted, but they were people with no real power as individuals for the most part. It’s the institutions of society and government which had been hijacked. I had already been red pilled about many things, but the brazenness and totally of this is what stunned me. This was really a form of stealth coup. No doubt it had been planned.
We have power just by resisting.
I also have receipts, and most of my family (vaccinated one and all) won't allow any mention of this issue. I knew clearly as soon as the data started coming out of N. Italy in Jan-Feb 20. It was and old folks disease and an institutional disease. 5 minutes of research was enough to know that there would not be a useful vaccine - EVER.
Some people see reality more clearly than others and that group seem to have more than a healthy disrespect for "government trying to help" as well.
Good luck everyone!
All the reality was right there for them to see. The flu has a vaccine every year, and yet somehow there was a disconnect. We could stop Covid in its tracks if we all took the vaccine. Forget the fact that if we did hold down and jab everyone, there are still animal reservoirs to the disease.
describes me perfectly: I even marched against the Vietnam War in London.
You outline this very well!
Goldilocks zone of mental clarity. Learned experience with interpreted value of hindsight.
Turns out free range may contribute to an appreciation for freedom?
Freedom is our most important natural resource and we need to defend it vehemently.
damn straight Barney!!!
That was my thought too. I’m in this demographic and peers, esp those in good overall health, were not vaxxing or wearing masks at nearly the level of 20-somethings and the 65+ group. (USA)
You actually needed some life experience and wisdom to see that this was a massively hyped shamdemic. That takes character. The young folk I know in Scotland were mostly pretty spineless conformists.
While anecdotally I do see many more 20-somethings masked up than the non-20s, it's not clear that "life experience" is sufficient to convey "wisdom."
The Chinese have a saying: "Beware the man that tells you he has 20 years experience when really he's just had 1 year of exerience 20 times."
There were and are way waaaaay too many people of all ages, races, caste, and neighborhood that continue to mask and are proud of all 6 of their boosters. I wish being old was enough.
"The young folk I know in Scotland were mostly pretty spineless conformists."
I used to have much more respect for giant hairy man who'd where a skirt commando style. William Wallace must be rolling over in his grave.
Oh we still have plenty of them left, too. But they probably think its 'manly' to 'take one for the team', you know?
Completely agree - the solid gen-x'ers. I, and most of my aged friends, did not get it or got one and said no more. It's the attitude of we survived living without tracking, no helmets, out on our own, left home young (in some cases), and are all around a tougher lot. There's much more critical thought amongst us.
... ran around the neighborhood all hours of the day and night, biked into town and through the ghettos without fear ....
And ate lead paint for good measure
And washed it down while drinking from the yard hose.
YES! BIG SMILE.
Was there anything better than drinking out of a garden hose after being outside playing your butt of all day in the summer?
I still do it every once in awhile.
Nothing like the taste of metallic lukewarm water on a summer day...and then reattach it to the sprinkler.
Coldest water ever
Spiders are a good source of protien!
Remember that one time you pooped in the woods?
Oh, I do like that! The youngest house I have ever lived in was built in 1928 (others, 1780, 1828)--and that lead paint sure does stick to the surface, keeping it protected. (watching neighbors' houses peel away in 10-20 years.
"and that lead paint sure does stick to the surface"
So kinda like paving a pasture to seal in the nutrients. *nods*
This a good way to build up your tolerance to chemicals.
I prefer Hot Dogs but de gustibus non est disputandum. *shrug*
Lol!
"Better living through chemicals"
Do you remember those stickers, in the 70's, with that slogan on top of a bunch of different colored pills?
Remember 'em? Uh... well, no.
But I have been trying to live a better life through Chemistry. I am a scientist, after all. *sniffs, has thought, loses thought, recalls drum circle from '83* What were we just talking about?
Don't you judge me, Ryan!
My recollection is "better living through chemistry" - and I was a firm adherent back in the 70's of running all kinds of different chemistries through my system.
Ah, but latex is so much tastier. 🥵
Lolol.
Seriously we are getting way more toxic chemicals in our systems now...unwittingly
And drank from the garden hose (or the horse trough.) 😄
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Lead paint… so delicious… 🤯💀
We ran around in woods with plastic guns and pretending to fight one another unsupervised. We dug holes, raked out trails, built dams. My mom would blow a whistle to call us home for dinner. I wonder if she felt any measure of anxiety awaiting our arrival.
I was fortunate enough to live in a similar world. We were creatures of the wild. And no, Mum was NOT subject to "any measure of anxiety". The "big kids", the 10 and 11 year olds knew elementary first aid, and would run to find adults to deal with broken bones, or bleeding that wouldn't stop.
Great point! Many of us Gen Xers are a cynical and deeply skeptical lot, and tend to lean in a "leave me alone, I can take care of myself" libertarian sort of direction. Insightful hypothesis. Well done.
As a boomer (age 73) whose teen years were the mid to late 1960s, none of us trusted the government and we had a mantra of "Never trust anyone over 30". My scepticsm detector has been fully operational since then, so I was primed throughout my life to look askance at the whole covid charade.
I think its more than that. My mom is near exactly your age, grew up in a conservative catholic community where there was no exposure for her to the hippie movement. She was quite sheltered. The most she ever rebelled against her elders was to become born again Christian instead of Catholic, but not trusting people over 30 didn't enter her thoughts. Yet, she, too, saw through all of this, never took a shot. I'm proud of her.
A cogent point, I think.
Young boomers part of this too. I'd expand your age bracket at the older end a bit--maybe to those under age 68 or so. Too young to participate in the Vietnam War protests but came of age in the 60s-70s with college in later 70s.
I think you're onto something with education.
Adding something to that: what about the Bill Gates & co (e.g., Obama) complete restructuring of our education systems? Did something happen in the late 90s/early 2000s that destroyed the valuation of independent thought and action that was taken for granted in earlier U.S. educational ideologies?
No Child Left Behind was in 2011, the absolute disgrace and capture effort that it was, but one thinks much was going on before this as well.
I think that No Child Left Behind was a collaboration between George W. Bush and Ted Kennedy, around 2002.
Ah right, that's correct. No Child Left Behind set up the precedent for the Gates takeover of U.S. education. It was a bunch of standardized testing stuff. Testing is a good way to measure competence but the issue is that if that's the only outcome then people learn how to take tests well but they tend to not learn how to think outside that pattern.
In other words, we can expect the next assault to be more focused on the 45-65 age bracket (with local national variances of course).
Those older no matter if they are recalcitrant sceptics are on their way out anyway, and those younger are not only compliant but just plain pliant.
Heh, I still remember when "flexible" was made a buzzword in job ads, career courses and other HR-bullshit. "Flexible, eh? You mean someone who just bends over for any pressure whatsoever?"
Did not go over well with the HR-lady from the school board. Still, worth it since no-one took her seriously after her "little episode" in the teacher's lounge.
Very plausible explanation. Plus a number of the experienced critical care physicians, cardiologists, epidemiologists, virologists, etc. that had the courage to suggest alternative points of view happened to be in this age bracket, and were perhaps seen as more relatable.
Agree. Not only our life history, but also at that age range (50's) many are prepared for early retirement. We saw what happened to those before us and took to heart the idea we might be sacked for outsourced or imported labour at 45 and prepared accordingly.
Interesting. I was 57 when this mess started and I called bs from day one. I have a few former classmates I know that felt the same, one who was a nurse and basically had to retire as she was mandated the jab. However, I also have some in my age cohort that were totally willing to accept as many shots as they’d give them. One of my sons was against it all, the other not as much but just did it to get along. My like minded former classmates also could smell the bs, so maybe a slight generational echo.
It was difficult to remain in the " control" group, I never masked, tested or injected, unfortunately I know of nobody else that resisted, too inconvenient for most. Fear was the real disease.
Yes, and ... perhaps that age group had "less to lose" in terms of losing their job, being fired, being refused hire ... having savings in the bank, retirement nest egg in fairly good shape ... and, perhaps some this age -- because of their experience -- even had enough leverage [enough value to their organization] to say 'keep me on un-vaxxed, or fire me un-vaxxed, your choice ... make up your own exemption'.
“No control group” - that’s why fauchi wanted 100% vaxxed, to muddy the results as best as possible
There's still 30% of the US population in the control group. That is huge for a long-term medical study on the bioweapon shots. Seriously, why doesn't some researcher do a study and compare the health of shotted versus unshotted - A LONG TERM STUDY. I would gladly sign up for that study in the control group.
I wonder how they know the figure is 30%. I know a lot of fools were vaxxed, but I meet a LOT of people now who admit to being unvaxxed. Perhaps they were hiding it before? I suspect the number might be higher than 30%.
IIRC (sorry, too out of it to scare up the stats) my home state of Indiana only ever achieved about 40% jab rates. Red state, certainly, with a blue island called Bloomington.
Actually there is: vaxcontrolgroup.com
I’d love to see the study but no way I’d participate...All my trust is gone, so wouldn’t want to be part of something that would be manipulated and used to humanity’s detriment
By "something" they mean depopulation and intentional removal of human carbon emissions. Did I win pin the tale on the democide?
This reminds me of a comment I've seen recently:
"The reason they aren't fighting Climate Change in China is because they're already Communist."
For this reason alone, we will continue to experience "emergencies" that require urgent, ex-Constitutional, liberty-stealing actions on the part of our benevolent governmental agencies.
This
Did you mean pin the tale on the democrats?
Edit: their mascot is a donkey after all.
LOL!
I liked the use of "tale" versus "tail" :)
While i agree with the sentiment, last I checked democrats advocated for masking children (and did it) for two years for political expediency and cowardness.
How long did they lockdown vs. Red states?
Do you need more examples?
This is coming from a guy who would be considered in the "middle" prior to 2016; but now a far right conspiRACIST.
Funny how my position hasn't changed, but the label has.
totally. as the cartoon says, you're likely a righty child hating bigot. lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvAbophptmM
Omg. 20k round clip!...lolol.
I'm at tennis practice and have Bluetooth speaker playing this and you've got the entire 50+ league laughing their asses off.
These are great. Thanks, Peter!
new release. public schools (3 mins) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU67ohDQaEk
Hope -
I'm not sure I understand? I'm sure you have a good point.
Help me understand
Uniparty delenda est!
It seemed appropriate but I've moved onto the "Elephant and Ass Show" when I really mean "A Pox on Both Your Houses." It hit me when I was reading @Lillia Gejweski's on her Substack "And so it goes..."
https://lilliagajewski.substack.com/p/the-elephant-and-ass-show/comments
freedom tunes - socialism one more time! besst 3 outta 5?
(3 mins) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZz2HF5KtrY
I was not familiar with this outfit.
That's pretty good stuff right there.
this one good too...spreading democracy into the Mid - East
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-tXVfq6wrE
This battle has taken a toll but we cannot stop now that things are getting back to "normal". I am sad that the Substackers I follow are becoming more silent and/or are moving on to other topics. This article is awesome!
Nobody in my circle in Canada has woken up and the evil agenda pushes forward. Not sure what it will take for the masses to awaken to what was so obvious to the rest of us. I fear that nothing will wake them up and we are doomed until God steps in to stop this insanity.
I’m in Canada as well. I’m lucky and have a couple of people in my circle who have been awake with me the entire time. I will be grateful to them for the rest of my life.
I’m coming to the conclusion that if they aren’t awake by now, it is by choice. They all know something isn’t right, they refuse to acknowledge they made a mistake; they refuse to accept they were manipulated, that they trusted the wrong people.
I get it. I remember being in an abusive relationship. Denial is a strong defence mechanism. Ask any addict!
In order for a person to accept the truth/reality, they must be willing to change. If there is no will to change, there will be no will to accept reason or logic that counters their current view. People will continue to grasp after whatever reality they perceive fits in with their narrative. They aren’t interested in the truth.
People are dropping dead all around us. How much more real life data do you need?
The proof that you are right is that they don't want to talk about it anymore for some reason. They would like to move on now. I don't think so.
I wrote a letter to my family. I explained to them that I wouldn’t be able to engage in a relationship with them unless I could be authentic and honest. I will not remain silent to comfort them. Their welfare is more important than the lies they are holding to. It’s their choice whether or not they want me in their life or the lies. They can’t have both. I will not allow it.
Same. Told all my buddies the first thing we would do is talk about covid and my families experience before I would meet with them again.
I believe we should all do this.
Takes some courage. There's surely risk to this.
Good on you.
How I look at it:
What quality of friend/family am I to remain silent and watch them poison themselves and their children? Do they expect me to participate in their suicide? Do they expect me to watch them abuse their children? I don’t think so. It says a lot about someone’s character to remain silent while their friends and family kill themselves.
There is no neutral. I think that’s where people think they are. If they just comply or remain silent, they are somehow not participating. They are lying to themselves. Remaining silent/doing nothing is an act of evil itself. Evil wins because of cowardice.
"There is no neutral."
I think this is true.
I’m curious--how did that go?
How was my letter received? No response.
My siblings and their immediate families are awake and thankfully unvaccinated. It’s the older generation, our parents, aunts and uncles, who are all indoctrinated. They are Catholics and obey authority well.
I just got word that my mothers husband’s cancer has returned and he’s been given a short term to live. They will follow whatever instructions they are given by the cult of the medics. She’s co-dependent and a master of denial. It’s the perfect recipe for cult membership.
I’m not saying it’s easy. I’m angry, I grieve constantly, I cried every day for 6 months and lost 40 pounds when the vaccine mandates were implemented. I was in complete shock how quickly everyone showed their true colours and turned their backs on each other, all because some corrupt politician on TV told them to 🤢😡
Overnight, I was suddenly beneath them. I was a second class citizen. I was the problem. Are you kidding me? Keep soaking up the lies and telling yourself you’re “doing the right thing”.
I am a helper by nature. I can’t help anyone who doesn’t want my help. It’s out of my hands. Just like communication - it takes 2. I can try to relay a message in 17 different ways. If the person on the receiving end doesn’t want to hear me, it’s out of my hands. I tried and tried and that’s all I can do.
I’m very sorry. Similar things happened to me in my family and friend groups. Funny enough, it’s my most devout Catholic friends who DIDN’T get jabbed—must be a generational thing. Basically, those who said ugly things or didn’t invite us to Christmas are acting like it’s all good and everything is back to normal. I forgive them, but I will never feel the same about them.
Survivor guilt: they took the jab, and hope they got away with it. So now they want us all to just shut up about it.
BOOM!
I’m in Canada too. I have some allies, some wishy washy chameleons, and some who refuse (still!) to even discuss this with me. Who excluded me for my choice. Your point about denial is spot on.
I’m just tired of feeling like I’m being perceived as the irrational addict by the rule followers--their refusal to discuss reminds me of how I used to deal with the addict in my life, when he went irrational on me. “I’m not engaging in this conversation anymore” -- “This is my boundary”. Seriously, a rule following CBCer recently pulled the “boundaries” idea on me when I reached out to her months after our falling out. Told me she needed a clear boundary that we won’t discuss this.
Censorship!!!
I wanted to extend an olive branch AND see if she’d softened at all. NOPE!
It’s so exhausting. And terrifying that these people still insist to not see what’s all around them.
That’s unfortunate. All you can do is try. It’s all any of us can do.
If people aren’t ready and willing to hear the truth, then they aren’t ready and willing. It has nothing to do with the message or the messenger.
I love your comment, although it is sort of depressing that you are right!
"Nobody in my circle in Canada has woken up and the evil agenda pushes forward."
I don't think this phenomena is limited to Canuckistan. It's almost exclusively in formats like this where we can encounter others like us.
IRL many of us aren't able to speak freely.
Same here, Pi. I am current working on finding agreeable others. It is not easy. People here in suburban Phila. Still believe in masks and the magical 6 feet, not to mention the jab.
I agree. If the evil of the last 3 years is not addressed, then the WHO will just push their pandemic treaty (total world control) forward.
I know that handling personal/family relationships is tricky at the best of times. But without a "mea culpa", I am inclined to write off the idiots (including a sister-in-law who is a nurse trainer at a large Boston-area hospital) who accused me of being a danger to them!
There are a few friendships that have changed into aquaintence-ships for me. These people showed their true colors as little would be notsees. Yes, we can still socialize pleasantly but how can these people be trusted without a change of heart of their part?
My ex brother-in-law, sat next to him at a wedding in the UK yesterday, Professor, no less, at Harvard MIT and works at the Mass Gen....."so, you think the vax mandates were a good thing, do you?" I ask him..."oh yes, he says"...."oh really" say I - "but why, if a vaccine protects you, not others, do you force it on others?"...."rate of transmissibility" he says..."so what", say I, "if you're vaccinated you're protected, no?" He just gaped at me and talked about how overstretched the hospital was..."oh really", say I, "how come all the doctor and nurse tik tok vids then?"...."oh, they were just to relax". Total idiot. Questioned nothing. I got the impression it was all very exciting for them, and he enjoyed the drama.
I’ve got a Harvard Med/MIT ex-professor friend as well who thinks the jabs should be mandatory across the board. Still. His lack of coherence on the topic and the data, and his trust in the NY Times (which my husband occasionally wrote for during the pandemic and had inside info from and therefore could never trust), both baffles and amazes me. I’m not going to stop our discourse. I’m going to live in hope that eventually reason and logic will awaken him.
A prof of organic agriculture friend gushed with glee over the cleverness of Mrna - half his face now reveals acquaintance with Guillain Barre syndrome. Intellectual prowess sometimes inhibits functional common sense.
Does he not see the ethical issues with forcing someone into a medical treatment that may harm them?
"he just gaped at me".... my brother calls that open mouth "the trout look".
"Last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it!"
https://imgflip.com/memetemplate/360110462/Lori-Lightfoot-BassPro-Shop
Yes, that was the look! haha
Lolol.
What do you call the maskers who wore those ridiculous duck bill mask?
Ah, yes, Maskachusetts, my favorite ex-state. Just about all true believers up there! 😎
Lots of us here in the state of MA continuing to fight to expose the truth.
OK....gRaNdMa KilLeR!!!
For a peer-reviewed study published in a mainstream journal, this was actually quite bold. Its criticism of the Paul Ehrlich Institute was withering to the point of sarcasm:
"Given the temporal relationship between the increase in vaccinations and excess mortality, it seems surprising that a respective safety signal has not been detected in the pharmacovigilance by the Paul-Ehrlich-Institut (PEI), which is responsible for the safety monitoring of drugs in Germany. A closer inspection of the methods used by the PEI to monitor possibly deadly side effects of the COVID-19 vaccinations reveals that a flawed safety analysis is used that will not indicate a safety signal even if a vaccine causes extremely large numbers of unexpected deaths."
My 27 year old son was NOT jabbed (was not allowed in the office but thankfully “allowed” to work from home) and was just diagnosed with viral cardiomyopathy. It’s been whispered to us that we should be glad he wasn’t vaxxed. We are still sad and in shock. If he lives 10 years he will be lucky. His case of Covid was literally a cold. Would be grateful for any leads on best treatment practices or top cardio teams. We are in Raleigh, NC. Many thanks.
I am unjabbed but had a nasty bout of covid in October 2022. I am still having fatigue and heart fluttering. The virus itself is a bioweapon along with the jab.
Shedding is a thing. It’s one of the many aspects of this bioweapon.
I agree! I have done two live blood analysis consultations with different practitioners and my blood looked like jabbed blood. I am so angry that I was shunned and scorned for being unjabbed but now I am suffering from shedding too.
The good news is that the unjabbed blood seems to heal, while the jabbed blood gets worse. Ref. Dr. Felippe Blood Slides.
I've never heard of this so I'll check it out -- thanks!
https://open.substack.com/pub/jimychanga/p/vax-shedding-is-real-and-can-kill?utm_source=direct&r=r9xyy&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
What?? What type of analysis did you have done?
Live blood analysis -- check out Dr. Ana Milhacea's Substack as she inspired me to go for one.
Reach out to dr. Peter McCullough who practices in Texas. One of the top cardiologists in the world in my opinion. Also Pierre Kory is extremely knowledgeable on treating these sorts of things. I’m sorry to hear about your son prayers that they will be able to help lengthen his life for him.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-recover/
Would this be effective even though he was not vaccinated?
Not likely effective in treating the myocarditis. Parts of the IRecover may be part of his therapy, but the myocarditis will need a special and probably aggressive approach. I’m an MD and have met McCullough. I would start with him.
Yes the protocol works on long Covid , any kind of Covid related side effects and the jab side effects. Dr. Pierre Kory is part of FLCCC. You can also sign up to watch their zoom calls every Wednesday night at seven Eastern standard time. They are importing all kinds of good information that could help your son. I live in North Carolina as well so glad to know that others in our state are subscribing here.
I love the FLCCC and support them in all ways. I will reach out. As you know, the hospitals at UNC and Duke don’t much subscribed to FLCCC protocols. 🙄
I have no idea, as I haven't needed to use it, but there are other protocols listed for long covid.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-recover-long-covid-treatment/
If your son did come in contact with someone that had recently been vaccinated there is a good chance that he could have been shed on and that is what caused his myocarditis instead of the natural virus. That would be a question to ask the doctor. You have to choose the right doctor because most medical doctors have also been blinded to the truth, but there are hundreds in the United States that are awake and know exactly what is going on.
I seriously doubt that. Much more likely that this is virus caused than vaxx shedding.
As a massage therapist who, unfortunately, has a number of jabbed, I sure hope this is correct.
Cardiologists use medications & devices. There are more options than just that.
1. Minimize duration of viral infections because they often damage blood vessels and strain the heart. Most viruses that cause respiratory infections are single-stranded RNA. I'd tell my son to keep elderberry concentrate stocked and to treat when he has any symptoms like a runny nose, cough, or sneezing. 1 tbl 2x / day for one day longer than symptoms. There are RCTs showing that elderberry extract reduces symptom duration of flu by 2 days. This means that viral load and damage are minimized. Elderberry concentrate works even better than the extract.
2. But it's better to not even become symptomatic. The strategy for this is to keep vit D levels around 50 ng/ml (125 nMoles/Liter in UK). If I were your son, I'd keep some calcifediol (vit D metabolite) stocked as vit D levels vary and infections occur when vit D levels are lower. High vit D levels help to minimize inflammatory damage from infections. Vit D concentrations at this level can produce some plaques on blood vessels if vit K2 isn't taken with it, so I'd recommend to my son that he take 100 mg of vit K2 with every 5,000 units of D3. And magnesium deficiency is common and magnesium is needed for best effect of D3 absorption and vit D activity, so drinking alkaline water will help keep magnesium levels up.
3. Vit D should be taken with a high fat meal to get much absorption. Lots of people miss this and don't see much impact on their levels from supplementation of D3. Either a greasy burger or 2 oz of cheese or 2 eggs should do. Not skim milk with bran flakes.
4. Your son has high risk during sleep. This means that he shouldn't live by himself and he should wear a device with a loud, audible alert which will sound if his heart stops. Your son needs to keep a defibrillator stocked and on hand and maintained and people trained in its use living with him.
5. If your son engages in moderate exercise for a couple of hours each time for 3x a week, he will keep his heart as strong as possible. This is best in the context of a hobby, like hiking or paddleball or golf, in a group. Again, best if he carries a portable defibrillator with him and informs his group leader about its use.
With these modest interventions, your son may live to dance at his granddaughter's wedding.
Thank you sooo much! If only he would listen to us. He only listens to his cardiologist. 😕💔 Very few will “prescribe” supplements and I know how important they are.
Check out FLCCC protocol.
I would ask advice from FLCCC - Pierre Kory and Paul Marek's group who help thousands of people - successfully. Good luck. Thinking of you.
Try not to be so pessimistic. Many, if not most, cases of viral myocarditis resolve without affecting longevity. I echo Beverly Fischer: Peter McCullough, Pierre Kory, Paul Marik. But time is of the essence and they may be recommending immediate treatment with corticosteroids and/or IVM. Stopping the inflammation is vital to preserve as much heart muscle as possible. Start by calling McCullough’s office today!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cardiomyopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20370709
Thank you. He has already processed into the heart failure stage.
In my earlier post I didn’t see this post that he is in cardiac failure. Call McCullough, Kory or Marik today and stress the urgency so you don’t have to wait too long for an appt.
Reach out to dr. Peter McCullough who practices in Texas. One of the top cardiologists in the world in my opinion. Also Pierre Kory is extremely knowledgeable on treating these sorts of things. I’m sorry to hear about your son prayers that they will be able to help lengthen his life for him.
Just a weird observation: the 50 - 59 age bracket seems to have relatively fewer excess deaths. I noticed in my highly vaccinated state that age bracket also had the highest number of vaccine holdouts. Maybe really old gen-xers are a bit more skeptical than everyone else. Huzzah for us.
We were educated by the rebel youths of the sixties, viet nam draft dodgers who were skeptical
And ironically, those “rebels” bent over and took the shot....sometimes you can’t win!
Not all of us. I grew up “questioning authority” and still do. I am a Boomer (class if ‘72) and a lawyer. I have been very disappointed in my generation and my professional colleagues, who seemed to lap up every lie like Biden and his ice cream cones.
I too am a Boomer who did not take the jab. To be fair, however, even this piece emphasizes the risk to the elderly. I have long felt the catch all “elderly”was less than accurate. Elderly with several health conditions, certainly. Nursing home residents were at very high risk. But, most of my close in age acquaintances have done well.
It's amazing how these people think that holding the same ideological positions as pretty much all of BigGov, BigAcademia, BigFarma, BigHollywood, and BigCity think _they_ are The Rebels.
#ResistanceMy@$$
We tried to warn them.
They never listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4CotEMBoa0
Agree with MeriBear. My experience in fighting the Empire in the late ‘60’s helped me to see through the Covid plot immediately. I was shocked and surprised, though, to see so many contemporaries willingly roll up their sleeve. Many are paying the price now. I have a list of 25 friends and personal acquaintances who either have serious cancer, are already dead or have other serious vaxx injuries. Latest is a former colleague dead of a clot and intracranial bleed last week.
Ditto. Early experience of pharma corruption and fraud meant I could see Fauci and Gallo back in the AIDS crisis days were obviously pulling a scam and I haven't trusted a word he's said since. Which meant 2003, 2005 and 2009 were also obvious scams. When they did it again in 2019 I was gobsmacked they were still using the same 'beast-from-the-east' script! But SO many of my lifelong left wing friends fell for it and STILL refuse to see it even though they've lost relatives and had health challenges themselves as a result of the transfections. Unbelievable really.
I saw the opposite, at the point when Shane Warne died at age 52, I noticed many celebrities also dying at 52. This may be Australia specific observations because celebs in their 50s were highly vexed here
it is the age group that watched every new thing get co-opted, betrayed and then lied about.
For a cat, you have a wonderfully purrfect analysis of the litter of data. For me...ow...I never wanted to take a stab and end up on a slab. Remember, remember, big pharma isn’t about health, it’s about 💰 Cheers 🐱
I wouldn't call the pandemic a "panic" as much as an "orchestrated panic". It was a sad excuse for a pandemic, a "pseudo-pandemic" as Iain Davis has called it. In short it was a hoax, a fear-mongering scam. Most fell for it. Those who concocted the scam did not. They plotted in a cold careful manner, much of which is visible for anyone to see on YouTube and other Internet sites.
I've heard others speculate as have I: the entire affair had a lot to do witht the repo crisis in September of 2019.
Covid presented the perfect excuse to print up trillions of dollars and paper over the fundamental problems in the system.
A cynic might phrase that, "Covid was designed as the perfect excuse to print up trillions of dollars to paper over the fundamental problems in the system".
Excellent book. Free from his website
Governments entire ethos is “punishment by process”, to wear you down, exhaust you til you just go away or quit. Never answering emails or the phone, or endless “holds”, mountains of forms and paperwork and bureaucratic hoops to jump through - it is all by design, to keep you “out of their hair.” And that’s just the day to day stuff. When it comes to something they want to hide or bury you meet a nearly impenetrable force that can have you spinning wheels for years.
They definitely want the facts behind the Covid nightmare buried for all time, not just to avoid their complicity and guilt, but so that they can do it again, having “perfected” this opaque system of corruption.
Receipts must be kept, compiled and guarded -and fought for, no matter how exhausting the battle, or they will most assuredly do it again. That is why they MUST be held to account.
It is amazing that since Trudeau took office, more than 30,000 federal employees have been added to payroll yet the service they provide to us, the tax payers, the very people who pay their salaries, has gone so far down in quality that you’d think there were no employees! If you’re interested in getting paid a lot for doing nothing - the Canadian government is looking for you!
My municipal government responds to maybe 1 out of every 5 email inquiries and it’s usually about 3 months later and consists of pointing the finger to another department/person. Zero accountability and yet taxes keep going up.
I run a business. If my staff ignored a customer inquiry for even 24 hours, they would be written up. If it happened again, they would be let go. Period.
They are certainly laying down the foundations to do it again, having temporarily retreated and digested what they learned: https://reclaimthenet.org/who-restrict-individual-civil-liberties
"Something" as in "this level of gymnastics is *something* to behold." As in "something wicked this way comes."
Damn straight. I’m not for “forgive and forget” in this circumstance. These people, these global elite wannabes, did this with malice of forethought and intent. They need to pay here and now as well as in the hereafter where our Lord will render the ultimate justice.
I am willing to forgive and forget but first a change, an admission of wrong doing and repentance is required on the part of the wrong doers.
I think of Jesus' parable of the prodigal son: the son squandered his fathers money, sought out a dissolute lifestyle but repented of his ways and sought out his father's forgiveness in humility.
To somewhat play devil’s advocate the fact that there were zero “healthy” deaths in that age group is a lot less reassuring when you look at the general health status of Americans in that age range. (Yes I know the study was in Israel.) Obesity early on was identified as a comorbidity resulting in adverse outcomes, some 20% of children in the US are obese. Asthma was another comorbidity of concern and 6 million children in the US have asthma. None of that excuses the actions taken by the government, but the fact that no healthy people died doesn’t really matter when a large chunk of your populace isn’t healthy. Of course the proper response to that would be to get people to focus on their health, to get people to lose weight, get outside, get more Vitamin D etc etc and governments did the opposite so that pretty much tells us what we need to know about their intentions.
"Of course the proper response to that would be to get people to focus on their health, to get people to lose weight, get outside, get more Vitamin D etc etc"
But getting people to eat right and exercise offers such little opportunity for graft!
Tell that to Richard Simmons...😜
Your logic is unassailable.
And I hold you responsible for this "Dancing with the Oldies" earworm that'll be rattling 'round my head the rest of the day!
*shakes fist in Dr. Tara's general direction*
Whatcha gonna do patent the sun, good food or oxygen? Screw that, there's money to be made!
When Psaki was asked about that "real" health advice, she "circled back" to the jabs.
https://rumble.com/v1zr11c-masksandjabs.html
Please don't stop banging on this drum.
The 20th century provides a long and horrific record of the tens of millions of people murdered by their own governments, all of whom tried desperately to cover it all up. South Africa, WW1, WW2, Cambodia, Uganda, China, USSR, North Korea, Iran, Bosnia/Herzegovina, Rwanda, etc, etc, etc. Historians will record this whole Covid disaster as being one more governmental program of murder, but only if it's true causes, the players involved, and consequences/results are brought forth into the light of day. We cannot let this be buried under the weight of "the next story" about how some mentally ill organization allowed some mentally ill boy to compete in a girls sporting event, or Chinese spy balloons, or about what a bad person Trump is.
The below comments contain a theory as to why the death-rate was so low in the 50-59 age group and I am in agreement. I'm 67 and I very much remember the 60's/70's and the post-Vietnam disillusionment with all things government. People in power will try to hide that which they know they screwed up and they know they screwed this up. Actually, I think they knew it from the very start but once they boarded the train, they didn't know how to get off. And so now they are doing everything they can to bury the results and keep them buried. This is why it's taking lawsuits and FOIA's and persistence to break this information loose.
Our kids and grandkids desperately need people like you to keep lifting the rocks and expose all the bugs, slime, and dirt because thru learning what went wrong this time, they may be the next generation that says, "Wait a minute, do you remember what happened during the Coronadoom thing back in grandpa's day?"
I like that term, "Coronadoom thing"-- it's now on my mental shelf next to "Holopharmakon."
Possibly like 9/11 and JFK the official narrative will be written.
… it was SARS-CoV-2 with disregard from where it came. It was SARS-CoV-2.
'Some people did something.'
"Mistakes were made on both sides"
I love that meme where the guy is yelling this at the women being burned at the stake.
But at this point ...
“What difference does it make”
"Let's let bygones be bygones!"
*flashes big toothy Gavin Newsom grin*
"Let's not talk about blame."
"Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who."