It’s probably around a coin flip if not worse. General practitioners are good at 1 thing, prescribing pharmaceuticals for kickbacks. Make that 2 things, ordering as many useless tests to bill insurance companies they can.
It’s true. From what they learned in school and just use big pharma for their medicines, the Allopath is better regulated to setting bones, sewing cuts and running tests........
Back in '03, My mom began experiencing problems. So much so that on Christmas Eve she opted out. My mom loved Christmas, and for her to miss it meant something was seriously wrong. As a result, we began to get a diagnosis for her issues. It was a six month ordeal. At first, we thought she had some sort of rebound headaches since she had a history with migraines. She was also having discomfort in sleeping and stopped sleeping in their bedroom, everything she tasted, tasted salty.
Finally, frustrated with the different diagnosis and the fact that no treatment was working, we took her down to the Mayo in Florida and for I think around a month, we took her through an onslaught of tests. Finally, after a spinal biopsy, it was determined she had lung cancer. I also learned that probably a closed MRI instead of an open one (which she had earlier in '02) would have determined the condition.
We got the diagnosis I think three weeks before she died. We took her to get a second opinion in Georgia once we returned from Florida, but at that point (in my mind) it was way beyond too late. Over t he course of the time even in Florida I noticed she went from being able to get around on her own to needing a wheelchair most of the time.
There is so much the medical community does not know, and that was again, another red flag of this pandemic that all was not well. Anyone who had a similar experience with diagnosis know that there are reasons for second opinions, and pushing in multiple directions.
We had a similar experience with my mother’s lung cancer. The cancer manifested as a psoriasis. She was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis & given remicade which weakened her immune system. She was a long term smoker so lung cancer was a likely culprit. When it was finally diagnosed, it was too late.
That was my mother's experienced as well. She was a lifelong smoker, thought she could beat the odds because her mom smoked and lived to be in her eighties. (She thought she won the genetic lottery).
What has me perplexed is the people who believe physicians have the expertise to weigh in on the efficacy of vaccines, meds, or masking. They don’t get thorough training in research. The drug reps tell them which drugs are safe and effective. And all their drugs supposedly are. They only know if their own patients have a bad experience and only then if they return to them for care. It would take lots of such patients for a physician to identify a red flag.
I’m not saying we can trust researchers whose bread is buttered by Big Pharma either. Even if we can, pharmaceutical companies present their data in a favorable way to their partners in the FDA. Unless we have truly open review as you’ve suggested, there is no “expert” group to consult on these issues.
Many doctors seem to think they are experts in anything tangentially related to medicine or the human body. I had a pediatrician try to school me once about bilingualism when I had far more subject matter expertise than she did. She probably had an hour or so of information about it in medical school or a seminar at most. I fired her immediately. I can’t stand it when doctors pretend to be experts in anything and everything because they’re doctors. Such arrogance.
A Pope who recently died was standing in line to gain entrance to the Pearly Gates where St Peter was checking folks in. A man carrying a small black case jumped ahead of everyone, and was immediately let through the Gates. The Pope stepped out of line and went up to St Peter to request immediate entrance, since he was such an important personage. St Peter told him he'd have to go to the back of the line and wait like everyone else. Offended and upset, the Pope pointed out that a man with a small case was just let in ahead of everyone. Was he more eminent than the Pope? St Peter answered: "Oh, that's God. He thinks he's a doctor."
Over the past year I had an amputation and one of my requests, due to limited mobility, was a home healthcare for looking at my stump wound and another for rehab. It was like a bear to get rehab. I kept interacting with the nurse, and the doctor complained that my insurance was the problem.
So I called up my insurance, contacted their home healthcare advocate, and within a week I had home healthcare. The doctor said to me in my most recent visit that I should consider getting other insurance since mine did not work well...but the home healthcare I got was great...and served me well.
I know she already finds me questionable because I am not a blindly accepting vaccine advocate, and she has to know by now that I find the mask to be an absurd medical accessory.
It's not surprising, the default state is "don't care." Once you recognize that, it's easy to see why things don't get done, and must be advocated. We all have to advocate for our health, and I did, in this case. The funny part of all this was,...once I did get home healthcare, I was also getting calls from the other home healthcare places that finally got back to my doctor. I was very careful not to double book them as this can become an issue.
Good to know. I just had hip surgery. My insurance plan had papers to sign immediately for home health and rehab. First at home then at the local clinic. I was surprised how organized it was. Then for my 12 weeks surgeon visit I made an appointment but the clinic appointment desk called right back to reset as the original date would have taken me out of the insurance plan timing. I appreciated that diligence. My recent experience was very good with this broken bone situation but I have fired a few docs that tried to give me statins, or other meds without really talking to me about it or nutritional “advice” that was laughable. One doc scared me so much about my BP (white coat hypertension--which to her meant raising my meds several times) that for several years I wasn’t able to get an accurate reading even at home I was so stressed about it. I then found a functional medicine doc who brought me down in stress Hence my ability to get accurate readings. Mostly I treat myself and stay out of conventional docs offices. But we must be advocates for our own health.
I think that physicians should have some experience in order to weigh in on this. I just don't think that they should be the gatekeeper of it. Do you remember when doctors would encourage a second opinion?
My experience has shown me that the doctor doesn't even understand what she is pushing. When I had the vaccine conversation with my doctor it was painful as to how silly their rationales were. I broke down my reasons for not taking the vaccine into simple reasons.
1. It was experimental.
2. It had yet to be researched for long term effects
3. Why did I need it since I already had Covid twice.
4. It apparently does not stay confined to one area of the body.
5. It did not stop infection or transmission
Her explanation as to why it made it through so quick was daunting. She said that the main hold up for the vaccine was bureaucracy, and they had managed to cut through it in record time. I told her that you can't hurry long term effects research for obvious reasons. The bureaucracy argument does hold up some of the process, but the reason for the bureaucracy in this case makes sense. a new substance needs to be extensively tested.
She also stated that the assurance that the vaccine would only stay in one part of the body was ridiculous, and I agreed with her on that notion.
In regards to the infection/transmission concern, she really didn't comment, but I do remember she said something along the lines of it preventing more serious symptoms, in other words, towing the company line of the narrative. But again, if I already know that I could handle Covid without the vaccine anyhow, then why do I need to take it?
Regardless if it is called Covid-19, or a garden variety Coronavirus, I had something twice. I am willing to concede that the symptoms I experienced were not unusual for other viruses. The "not smelling" thing was sensationalized, but it is true that other viruses, even the flu cause identical symptoms. My point is that I acknowledge something real occurred. Heck, the emails between Fauci and company show that they were working on something in Wuhan.
Think of it like this, each year, the flu strain is different, so in a way, each year there is a "novel" flu strain. If we leaned into it, and publicized every death due to flu, and hyper-focussed on it, I believe we could create a panic about it.
I will also concede that the PCR tests were inaccurate, but they certainly found something. It could have been old artifacts of recent infections, who knows. But something was detected. In fact, due to high threshold cycle levels, it was almost as if the PCR test was on a "fishing expedition" for something.
The thing is, while I am as skeptical as you in regards to Covid, two people I know, in their seventies, with pre-existing conditions died with something. Whether that was Covid, the flu, or the common cold remains to be seen. My point from having had whatever "it" was that for most people, it wasn't something to get panicked about.
Also, the assertion "that it isn't real" doesn't end anywhere constructive when it clearly is something. Wherever you are on the debate concerning isolation the Coronavirus, people were getting sick with something.
While I agree with your conclusion, for me, the argument that "there was no Covid-19"
is missing the point. Regardless of whether or not it was real, only a very small fraction of our society died from it. My contention is that "yes, it is real, I had it, and as a 50+ year old diabetic, I survived it, and it certainly wasn't worth posting my cold/flu symptoms online..
I agree that the reaction was far more extreme than the threat.
My analogy still holds. In the movie Talladega Nights, there is a scene where Will Farrell jumps out of his smoking car, is running around tearing off his clothes claiming he was on fire. At the very least, the car was smoking, so something happened. Whether that virus was novel or not, people were getting sick. But, the reaction was ridiculous.
I took my young son to our family doctor a couple of decades ago. My son had an issue that isn't real common and I had done an inordinate amount of research on it. At least my doctor was honest enough to tell me "You know way more than I do about this."
Traditional Chinese medicine and Ayurvedic have been around thousands of years. Both are extraordinarily effective and successful. Big difference between AMA drive medicine and those is they treat the individual.
Yes. And also true for Islamic homepathy. I am a Muslim and I replied to a Muslim doctor on Twitter who was pushing pharma crap that he needs to rediscover the Muslim natural healing tradition that has worked for 1400 years. He blocked me.
It would be good to know which medical professionals toe the line and which ones don’t. If the results of the polls were public and we were able to see how individual drs voted I think this could be a good idea. I have several drs that I trust and it would be good to know what they collectively think about a topic. I have many more that I don’t trust at all and would be good to know where they stand for the opposite reason.
Exactly. Even with credentials and training and awards, the only reliable system is gossip from people they work with. And then, you have to know who's delivering the gossip to know if their judgments are worth trusting -- if people don't have the knowledge and finesse themselves, they can't identify the faults that the other is making. Recently I watched a doctor forcefully squish a baby's head during cesarean delivery simply because she cut the opening too small and forced it through rather than took the time to widen the slit a bit. Mother doesn't know. Nobody's going to tell her. Baby won't stop crying and crying, can't explain what's wrong. Then you see people years down the line walking around with weird-shaped heads. This was after I had to tell the other one at the table to change her gloves because she handled unsterile operating room furniture and then went to put her dirty glove into the mother's open belly, had I not caught it. Plus they sewed it up sloppy, which will increase her chances of rupturing the uterus later and having painful scars. This place has a great reputation: sepsis and malformed head and trauma to the woman's belly skin all in one go.
True. Other than references from friends, asking around, what is there? Not a lot. If you look at any doc reviews, you can get a sense, but mostly those are just people who are annoyed. You very rarely see positive doc reviews because who bothers with that? Actual statistics? Outcomes? You're funny, gato.
The possibilities and pitfalls of monetizing healthcare data
Data open the door to innovation and new revenue streams
"You don't always understand the risks that come with the benefits until later."
"With a projected compound annual growth rate of 36% between 2018-2025 - data generated in healthcare are expected to surpass the growth of data generated by manufacturing, financial, and media & entertainment industries within this time frame.
"The overall data monetization market is poised to touch a valuation of $USD 707.86 billion by 2025 making it a valuable instrument for healthcare systems and related companies."
When did healthcare organizations start taking advantage of their electronic medical records in this way?
"....probably in 2017 or 2018. The thing that really pushed this into overdrive was the rise of privacy-preserving record linkage, which combines records from the same person without identifying them. The technologies are perfectly fine. But it almost makes a lot of people feel like, "Well, if I de-identified the data, I can almost do anything I want."
(1) Huge billboards at the stations around the important hospitals advertising one of these insidious ask-Alexa-ish services aimed at health problems -- like, tell it your symptoms and it gives you info.
(2) These mysterious health companies doing all the advertising are portraying themselves as start-ups, but have bottomless budgets and answer to higher-up US-based companies tracing back to Google, according to some of the people who ended up working for and sitting in at these "start-up" meetings.
(3) These US-based companies are hiring innocent European medical students and paying them 4x the normal student salary to go doctor-to-doctor and give a sales pitch about how wonderful their new digitalization software is. Essentially, trying to rot the European system from the middle. The EU is a bastion of privacy and patient rights, which is why these digital systems have been scorned. When was the last time any of us heard of a digital system that didn't, oops sorry, shockingly have big compromised database break-ins, all your data delivered on a silver platter to just the right interested parties....
Absolutely true. I've tried. Another fun game, guaranteed to piss most doctors off, is to ask them their graduation rank in their medical class. I've tried that one, too.
If you have some friends in the medical field, nurses, lab techs etc, they all know who the clowns are. Ask them, they're often willing to spill the beans.
As one who’s worked in the medical field for 30 years, I must say that it is up to you to do research and figure out what makes you healthy. I had my own health crisis 6 years ago and I lost all faith in my fellow medical professionals due to the dispassionate way I was treated. (I was eventually diagnosed with sacroiliitis and reactive arthritis, but it took weeks and left me bedridden and physical therapy to walk again!) Now I follow a select few medical influencers, and I only trust a couple of real life doctors/PAs/ARNPs with my own physical health. I have been so disappointed with the majority of doctors I interact with on a daily basis, that I feel that unless you have a broken bone or stitches, or a heart attack or stroke (but it’s better to stay healthy and not become a victim!) unless you need emergency medicine, just stay away from the doctors. Once they get their hooks into you (via blood pressure medicine, or statins) they’ve got a customer for life! They won’t tell you about dietary changes that can reverse diabetes and more. I follow Dr Shawn Baker and others advocating for a whole foods animal based diet and avoidance of chemicals including plant toxins and especially veg oils.
How come then we have just replaced some experts with others??? eg Lawrie, Malone, GVD, McCullough just because they say a few things that we agree with and we think they're being courageous by speaking out against mRNA yet really they are still racking it in from sales of other medications ??? https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/a-healthy-future-does-not-lie-with
There is a ratings system for every specialty practice in the US and by rights all those evaluations should be publicly available. I have a friend retired from heading both nukes and radiology who still travels to evaluate both of those specialties. She’s a rare bird allopathically trained that got out of the practice of medicine because, first, managed care added one layer of suits between her and her patients and then ACA added yet another. Now when a hospital wants to issue debt they reference these stats. Yes, this evaluation system presupposes more power for “the experts” but it’s information and it should be publicly available! I do know this. I have many friends who are or were physicians but my last experience with the ER got me incarcerated in an ICU room. Yes, they locked me in like I was a psych patient because I was unjabbed and was diagnosed with COVID pneumonia.
I can recall asking my ophthalmologist about cataract surgery - how come he didn't have all those letters on his title, what was his complication rate. He noted he was busy doing surgery rather than adding letters. Out of some 10000+ patients he had 1 complication. I was OK with that. Surgery went well, no complications.
Yes, but the reason Cuban wants it is to flood the votes with the robots. He will claim the majority has spoken and that the concensus of scientists disagree with you. Majority does not make right.
5 years after a doctor qualifies 50% of what he is taught is out of date and wrong, and none of them knows which 50%
thats not even getting into the fact they are essentially trained by phama to dish out drugs instead of teaching about real health with vitamins and minerals and asking patients about their lifestyles.
when was the last time a doctor asked what you ate?
My first use of medical system was for iBS in 1993. I was told stress caused and muscle relaxants prescribed. I disregarded this diagnosis and treatment, did a food diary. Gave up lactose and coffee for years problem solved by my library research. Drs never asked me what I took into my body. Absurd diagnosis, at 25 years I became a skeptical of the US medical practice. mercola is a health hero.
I doubt that many doctors, especially the GPs, do any further study or research after they begin practicing. That's when they really start to rely on drug reps for medical advice on the latest and greatest treatments. All drug based, of course.
If anyone thinks that the AMA was created and exists for "the public interest", rather than to enforce and profit from its medical cartel, give this a read:
Most people are unaware that prior to the Progressive Era (which never ended, only metastasized unchecked), all sorts of things usurped by the State were handled privately. Welfare, unemployment, life and a form of medical insurance were all provided by fraternal organizations, private organizations voluntarily supported by dues-paying members.
These sorts of organizations were long a prominent feature of American society, and along with professional certification outfits (e.g. Underwriter's Laboratories) were, of course, far better than the bloated, corrupt gaggle of apparatchiks that now afflict us.
Were government-enforced cartels in medicine, law, etc. to be abolished, private organizations would arise to replace them in short order, and all of us (except, of course, the apparatchiks) would be better off for it.
Progressivism, like all forms of collectivism, is little more than a scam to enrich Paula at the expense of Paul, and bamboozle Paul and vast herds of his fellow rubes into cheering for it.
perhaps the most potent argument to be made from this is "imagine what these private, consensual organizations might have evolved into by now after 100 years of the selective pressure of competition and consumer sovereignty."
"imagine what these private, consensual organizations might have evolved into by now after 100 years of the selective pressure of competition and consumer sovereignty."
I mock doctors when they mention the AMA. I say, “Why should I trust the Doctor’s Union, it’s there for you and not me.” They hate it because it’s true.
I’m also pissed off with my own guild, I say they should be more like the AMA, then we’d all make more money 😀
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.
Why not let them compete and accredit their own doctors / healthcare providers. Whichever one provides the most compelling evidence of success is the one I'll go to - and hint, it won't be the morons at the AMA who supported the covid jabs!
No particular expertise was needed to understand submitting to a poorly tested injection (untested medium to long term) employing a radical technology which has never been used as a vaccine, even on livestock, for a virus which poses no meaningful danger to the great majority of people (see IFR data) was obviously foolhardy. That was evident to anyone who did some basic homework before the injections were rolled out. And now we know COVID injections have proven dreadfully dangerous in the short term (see VAERS) while any efficacy wanes rapidly.
The problem is most people won’t look past what the main stream media is peddling, add suppression and vilification of the counter argument into the mix, a “normal person” doesn’t stand a chance. I think the NIH even published a “How to Manual” on the topic.
Indeed, a disturbing percentage of our society fails to think independently and act courageously. And shame on most in the medical "profession". They have destroyed their once considerable credibility.
In reference to your comment regarding "love of authority, and regulatory structure," Belgian psychologist Mattias Desmet discusses the need to eliminate fear and uncertainty by means of rules, in his 2022 book the Psychology of Totalitarianism. In chapter 5 The Desire for a Master p. 84 he states: "They arise mainly from the pressing need among the population for an authoritarian institution that provides direction to take the burden of freedom and the associated insecurity off their shoulders." Unquestioning obedience to the rules of our "expert" masters provides psychological security and comfort, and eliminates any need for thinking. There is therefore no personal responsibility for decisions made, and their consequences to oneself and others.
My field is the red-headedest stepchild of them all, and the FDA (presumably with pressure from pharma) is trying to regulate it out of existence for its “dangerous” drugs while pharma shills mock it for being nothing at all; no hypocrisy is too polar for these folks. Despite this abuse at the hands of the mainstream for decades (ever since the Flexner Report), many in my field are begging for “legitimacy” in the form of approved credentialism. For *homeopathy.*
And yet, when a doctor I know ruthlessly ridicules my work and says it only persists because of the corruption in the pharma-medico complex that drives people into the arms of “quacks,” and says that, in a free market for medicine, we wouldn’t exist, I am happy to accept his challenge.
Let the market decide. We don’t need credentialism, we need credibility, and you get that through competent, effective, and transparent service.
I was just about to comment about this Sarah. They’re trying to squeeze you out, and squeeze all of us into the one-size-f*cks-all system of corporate health care that has exploded in the last 15 years.
Chinese medicine is practiced in SF Chinatown. Nobody stops it. Seems like a fine alternative to me. If I found an Ayurvedic doc near me, I’d be happy to go there.
Are you seriously entertaining the thought of people being allowed to braid someone else's hair, without undergoing extensive training and passing a competency test? People could wind up with uneven braids! It would be an esthetic catastrophe, not to mention their embarrassment! Causing someone to be laughed at is VIOLENCE! People could DIE! Don't you understand? This is to protect the PEOPLE!
I think I would’ve asked her if she was the health inspector and asked for her badge or why she was trying to impersonate the health inspector and told her I was going to report her for it 😆
My sister had surgery for a rare type of adrenal cancer in 2012. She was told she might have a year to live. She refused all chemo and radiation and became an expert on how food and exercise could impact her. In Feb of 2021 - ten years after the first surgery - she had surgery for a metastasized recurrence. She again has refused chemo and radiation and is living a robust and healthy life. She has asked several of her doctors along the way, "Do they ever include people like me in treatment trials?" And the answer is, of course, NO. People like my sister are never included as comparators, because the medicocracy wants you to believe you cannot live without its intrusive, authoritarian, and ongoing guidance.
As relates to the c*v*d jabs - those of us who have refused them are like my sister. We are the best comparator group to assess safety and effectiveness, but are not considered the placebo group.
Well, look. Nobody ever really cheered the end of feudal fiefdoms. Everybody wanted to be the feudal lord. Everybody still does. You ain't got charm, you can at least try to get power over those who'd laugh you to the back of the crowd otherwise. You're in, or you're out, and it's just based on whatever the guy in power at the moment wants to base it on.
This idea that we're modern, I mean really. Just a primate troop, trooping.
Among my favorite fellow travelers is Doug Casey, founder of Casey Research.
He accurately, and hilariously, describes Democrats and Republicans as two troupes of chimpanzees on either side of a watering hole, jumping up and down, hooting and gesticulating hysterically, and flinging feces at each other.
Better to be the caracal enjoying the clown show from the reeds.
I can weigh in on that! For one, in the US but not in Europe, the materials that they are using to train new doctors for the med test explicitly emphasize the need for "Fluoride supplementation" if a newborn lives in an area without fluoridated water. Otherwise, they will be "Fluoride-deficient". The giant dark force producing these materials is based in Chapel Hill.
The LAST person I would ask for medical advice after these last three years, is a DOCTOR!
the consumer risk (being wrong) of your dr's opinion is unacceptably huge.
It’s probably around a coin flip if not worse. General practitioners are good at 1 thing, prescribing pharmaceuticals for kickbacks. Make that 2 things, ordering as many useless tests to bill insurance companies they can.
It’s true. From what they learned in school and just use big pharma for their medicines, the Allopath is better regulated to setting bones, sewing cuts and running tests........
We all know that you have a thing for the professor...so we know who you asked medical advice from.
Agree. My family has had multiple experiences with serious misdiagnoses from the medical community.
Back in '03, My mom began experiencing problems. So much so that on Christmas Eve she opted out. My mom loved Christmas, and for her to miss it meant something was seriously wrong. As a result, we began to get a diagnosis for her issues. It was a six month ordeal. At first, we thought she had some sort of rebound headaches since she had a history with migraines. She was also having discomfort in sleeping and stopped sleeping in their bedroom, everything she tasted, tasted salty.
Finally, frustrated with the different diagnosis and the fact that no treatment was working, we took her down to the Mayo in Florida and for I think around a month, we took her through an onslaught of tests. Finally, after a spinal biopsy, it was determined she had lung cancer. I also learned that probably a closed MRI instead of an open one (which she had earlier in '02) would have determined the condition.
We got the diagnosis I think three weeks before she died. We took her to get a second opinion in Georgia once we returned from Florida, but at that point (in my mind) it was way beyond too late. Over t he course of the time even in Florida I noticed she went from being able to get around on her own to needing a wheelchair most of the time.
There is so much the medical community does not know, and that was again, another red flag of this pandemic that all was not well. Anyone who had a similar experience with diagnosis know that there are reasons for second opinions, and pushing in multiple directions.
We had a similar experience with my mother’s lung cancer. The cancer manifested as a psoriasis. She was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis & given remicade which weakened her immune system. She was a long term smoker so lung cancer was a likely culprit. When it was finally diagnosed, it was too late.
That was my mother's experienced as well. She was a lifelong smoker, thought she could beat the odds because her mom smoked and lived to be in her eighties. (She thought she won the genetic lottery).
Lol. Ok.
What has me perplexed is the people who believe physicians have the expertise to weigh in on the efficacy of vaccines, meds, or masking. They don’t get thorough training in research. The drug reps tell them which drugs are safe and effective. And all their drugs supposedly are. They only know if their own patients have a bad experience and only then if they return to them for care. It would take lots of such patients for a physician to identify a red flag.
I’m not saying we can trust researchers whose bread is buttered by Big Pharma either. Even if we can, pharmaceutical companies present their data in a favorable way to their partners in the FDA. Unless we have truly open review as you’ve suggested, there is no “expert” group to consult on these issues.
Many doctors seem to think they are experts in anything tangentially related to medicine or the human body. I had a pediatrician try to school me once about bilingualism when I had far more subject matter expertise than she did. She probably had an hour or so of information about it in medical school or a seminar at most. I fired her immediately. I can’t stand it when doctors pretend to be experts in anything and everything because they’re doctors. Such arrogance.
A Pope who recently died was standing in line to gain entrance to the Pearly Gates where St Peter was checking folks in. A man carrying a small black case jumped ahead of everyone, and was immediately let through the Gates. The Pope stepped out of line and went up to St Peter to request immediate entrance, since he was such an important personage. St Peter told him he'd have to go to the back of the line and wait like everyone else. Offended and upset, the Pope pointed out that a man with a small case was just let in ahead of everyone. Was he more eminent than the Pope? St Peter answered: "Oh, that's God. He thinks he's a doctor."
AWESOME! I love it!👏💥
I have fired so many doctors. I actually had one fire me because I asked too many questions. I am not a fan of doctors.
I watched as my doctor revised history.
Over the past year I had an amputation and one of my requests, due to limited mobility, was a home healthcare for looking at my stump wound and another for rehab. It was like a bear to get rehab. I kept interacting with the nurse, and the doctor complained that my insurance was the problem.
So I called up my insurance, contacted their home healthcare advocate, and within a week I had home healthcare. The doctor said to me in my most recent visit that I should consider getting other insurance since mine did not work well...but the home healthcare I got was great...and served me well.
I know she already finds me questionable because I am not a blindly accepting vaccine advocate, and she has to know by now that I find the mask to be an absurd medical accessory.
I am sorry that you had to fight for your treatment. That sucks.
It's not surprising, the default state is "don't care." Once you recognize that, it's easy to see why things don't get done, and must be advocated. We all have to advocate for our health, and I did, in this case. The funny part of all this was,...once I did get home healthcare, I was also getting calls from the other home healthcare places that finally got back to my doctor. I was very careful not to double book them as this can become an issue.
Good to know. I just had hip surgery. My insurance plan had papers to sign immediately for home health and rehab. First at home then at the local clinic. I was surprised how organized it was. Then for my 12 weeks surgeon visit I made an appointment but the clinic appointment desk called right back to reset as the original date would have taken me out of the insurance plan timing. I appreciated that diligence. My recent experience was very good with this broken bone situation but I have fired a few docs that tried to give me statins, or other meds without really talking to me about it or nutritional “advice” that was laughable. One doc scared me so much about my BP (white coat hypertension--which to her meant raising my meds several times) that for several years I wasn’t able to get an accurate reading even at home I was so stressed about it. I then found a functional medicine doc who brought me down in stress Hence my ability to get accurate readings. Mostly I treat myself and stay out of conventional docs offices. But we must be advocates for our own health.
They are most comfortable liars. It’s for the good of patients they delude.
Mass Formation.
I think that physicians should have some experience in order to weigh in on this. I just don't think that they should be the gatekeeper of it. Do you remember when doctors would encourage a second opinion?
My experience has shown me that the doctor doesn't even understand what she is pushing. When I had the vaccine conversation with my doctor it was painful as to how silly their rationales were. I broke down my reasons for not taking the vaccine into simple reasons.
1. It was experimental.
2. It had yet to be researched for long term effects
3. Why did I need it since I already had Covid twice.
4. It apparently does not stay confined to one area of the body.
5. It did not stop infection or transmission
Her explanation as to why it made it through so quick was daunting. She said that the main hold up for the vaccine was bureaucracy, and they had managed to cut through it in record time. I told her that you can't hurry long term effects research for obvious reasons. The bureaucracy argument does hold up some of the process, but the reason for the bureaucracy in this case makes sense. a new substance needs to be extensively tested.
She also stated that the assurance that the vaccine would only stay in one part of the body was ridiculous, and I agreed with her on that notion.
In regards to the infection/transmission concern, she really didn't comment, but I do remember she said something along the lines of it preventing more serious symptoms, in other words, towing the company line of the narrative. But again, if I already know that I could handle Covid without the vaccine anyhow, then why do I need to take it?
It's not really a bubble.
Regardless if it is called Covid-19, or a garden variety Coronavirus, I had something twice. I am willing to concede that the symptoms I experienced were not unusual for other viruses. The "not smelling" thing was sensationalized, but it is true that other viruses, even the flu cause identical symptoms. My point is that I acknowledge something real occurred. Heck, the emails between Fauci and company show that they were working on something in Wuhan.
Think of it like this, each year, the flu strain is different, so in a way, each year there is a "novel" flu strain. If we leaned into it, and publicized every death due to flu, and hyper-focussed on it, I believe we could create a panic about it.
I will also concede that the PCR tests were inaccurate, but they certainly found something. It could have been old artifacts of recent infections, who knows. But something was detected. In fact, due to high threshold cycle levels, it was almost as if the PCR test was on a "fishing expedition" for something.
The thing is, while I am as skeptical as you in regards to Covid, two people I know, in their seventies, with pre-existing conditions died with something. Whether that was Covid, the flu, or the common cold remains to be seen. My point from having had whatever "it" was that for most people, it wasn't something to get panicked about.
Also, the assertion "that it isn't real" doesn't end anywhere constructive when it clearly is something. Wherever you are on the debate concerning isolation the Coronavirus, people were getting sick with something.
While I agree with your conclusion, for me, the argument that "there was no Covid-19"
is missing the point. Regardless of whether or not it was real, only a very small fraction of our society died from it. My contention is that "yes, it is real, I had it, and as a 50+ year old diabetic, I survived it, and it certainly wasn't worth posting my cold/flu symptoms online..
I agree that the reaction was far more extreme than the threat.
My analogy still holds. In the movie Talladega Nights, there is a scene where Will Farrell jumps out of his smoking car, is running around tearing off his clothes claiming he was on fire. At the very least, the car was smoking, so something happened. Whether that virus was novel or not, people were getting sick. But, the reaction was ridiculous.
I took my young son to our family doctor a couple of decades ago. My son had an issue that isn't real common and I had done an inordinate amount of research on it. At least my doctor was honest enough to tell me "You know way more than I do about this."
Shamans predate and shall outlast kings, for mere fear of uncertainty and the burden that being brings.
Traditional Chinese medicine and Ayurvedic have been around thousands of years. Both are extraordinarily effective and successful. Big difference between AMA drive medicine and those is they treat the individual.
Yes. And also true for Islamic homepathy. I am a Muslim and I replied to a Muslim doctor on Twitter who was pushing pharma crap that he needs to rediscover the Muslim natural healing tradition that has worked for 1400 years. He blocked me.
Of course he blocked you. He has sealed is his fate; sadly.
Profound and poetic -- thank you!
Placebo: the most powerful effect in medicine.
It would be good to know which medical professionals toe the line and which ones don’t. If the results of the polls were public and we were able to see how individual drs voted I think this could be a good idea. I have several drs that I trust and it would be good to know what they collectively think about a topic. I have many more that I don’t trust at all and would be good to know where they stand for the opposite reason.
if you want to have some real fun, try finding the track record of a health professional.
you straight up can't.
how many times has a doctor done this surgery before?
what were the outcomes?
nope. not available anywhere.
the system we have allows precious little data driven discernment.
Exactly. Even with credentials and training and awards, the only reliable system is gossip from people they work with. And then, you have to know who's delivering the gossip to know if their judgments are worth trusting -- if people don't have the knowledge and finesse themselves, they can't identify the faults that the other is making. Recently I watched a doctor forcefully squish a baby's head during cesarean delivery simply because she cut the opening too small and forced it through rather than took the time to widen the slit a bit. Mother doesn't know. Nobody's going to tell her. Baby won't stop crying and crying, can't explain what's wrong. Then you see people years down the line walking around with weird-shaped heads. This was after I had to tell the other one at the table to change her gloves because she handled unsterile operating room furniture and then went to put her dirty glove into the mother's open belly, had I not caught it. Plus they sewed it up sloppy, which will increase her chances of rupturing the uterus later and having painful scars. This place has a great reputation: sepsis and malformed head and trauma to the woman's belly skin all in one go.
I wasn't ready to read that. Ugh.
Small towns help with this. The complications are circulated very efficiently, but the tertiary centres are always in larger cities.
The nurses always know, and sometimes the GP's see enough of the consultants' work to have an idea who is safe.
Presently 95% of the practising physicians are Vaxx believers, and can't be swayed. Think three monkeys.
True. Other than references from friends, asking around, what is there? Not a lot. If you look at any doc reviews, you can get a sense, but mostly those are just people who are annoyed. You very rarely see positive doc reviews because who bothers with that? Actual statistics? Outcomes? You're funny, gato.
Wow! True. I’ve had to fire so many doctors, esp ones that I needed to help me care for my child
correct. Additionally, they must all follow the mandates by state, and government
Oh man, if we only had a "yelp" for doctors.
The possibilities and pitfalls of monetizing healthcare data
Data open the door to innovation and new revenue streams
"You don't always understand the risks that come with the benefits until later."
"With a projected compound annual growth rate of 36% between 2018-2025 - data generated in healthcare are expected to surpass the growth of data generated by manufacturing, financial, and media & entertainment industries within this time frame.
"The overall data monetization market is poised to touch a valuation of $USD 707.86 billion by 2025 making it a valuable instrument for healthcare systems and related companies."
When did healthcare organizations start taking advantage of their electronic medical records in this way?
"....probably in 2017 or 2018. The thing that really pushed this into overdrive was the rise of privacy-preserving record linkage, which combines records from the same person without identifying them. The technologies are perfectly fine. But it almost makes a lot of people feel like, "Well, if I de-identified the data, I can almost do anything I want."
https://healthcaretransformers.com/healthcare-business/healthcare-data-monetization/
In Europe in the past 2 years:
(1) Huge billboards at the stations around the important hospitals advertising one of these insidious ask-Alexa-ish services aimed at health problems -- like, tell it your symptoms and it gives you info.
(2) These mysterious health companies doing all the advertising are portraying themselves as start-ups, but have bottomless budgets and answer to higher-up US-based companies tracing back to Google, according to some of the people who ended up working for and sitting in at these "start-up" meetings.
(3) These US-based companies are hiring innocent European medical students and paying them 4x the normal student salary to go doctor-to-doctor and give a sales pitch about how wonderful their new digitalization software is. Essentially, trying to rot the European system from the middle. The EU is a bastion of privacy and patient rights, which is why these digital systems have been scorned. When was the last time any of us heard of a digital system that didn't, oops sorry, shockingly have big compromised database break-ins, all your data delivered on a silver platter to just the right interested parties....
Yeah I’m not reading all that.
Absolutely true. I've tried. Another fun game, guaranteed to piss most doctors off, is to ask them their graduation rank in their medical class. I've tried that one, too.
Yeah like bad roads--the lowest bidder got the contract. And someone had to be at the bottom of the class.
If you have some friends in the medical field, nurses, lab techs etc, they all know who the clowns are. Ask them, they're often willing to spill the beans.
As one who’s worked in the medical field for 30 years, I must say that it is up to you to do research and figure out what makes you healthy. I had my own health crisis 6 years ago and I lost all faith in my fellow medical professionals due to the dispassionate way I was treated. (I was eventually diagnosed with sacroiliitis and reactive arthritis, but it took weeks and left me bedridden and physical therapy to walk again!) Now I follow a select few medical influencers, and I only trust a couple of real life doctors/PAs/ARNPs with my own physical health. I have been so disappointed with the majority of doctors I interact with on a daily basis, that I feel that unless you have a broken bone or stitches, or a heart attack or stroke (but it’s better to stay healthy and not become a victim!) unless you need emergency medicine, just stay away from the doctors. Once they get their hooks into you (via blood pressure medicine, or statins) they’ve got a customer for life! They won’t tell you about dietary changes that can reverse diabetes and more. I follow Dr Shawn Baker and others advocating for a whole foods animal based diet and avoidance of chemicals including plant toxins and especially veg oils.
I follow Shawn as well. I eat mostly animal products with some veg. No seed oil. It’s working for me.
That’s why i think it would be good to know where they stand on big issues like this. Just my $0.02.
How come then we have just replaced some experts with others??? eg Lawrie, Malone, GVD, McCullough just because they say a few things that we agree with and we think they're being courageous by speaking out against mRNA yet really they are still racking it in from sales of other medications ??? https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/a-healthy-future-does-not-lie-with
There is a ratings system for every specialty practice in the US and by rights all those evaluations should be publicly available. I have a friend retired from heading both nukes and radiology who still travels to evaluate both of those specialties. She’s a rare bird allopathically trained that got out of the practice of medicine because, first, managed care added one layer of suits between her and her patients and then ACA added yet another. Now when a hospital wants to issue debt they reference these stats. Yes, this evaluation system presupposes more power for “the experts” but it’s information and it should be publicly available! I do know this. I have many friends who are or were physicians but my last experience with the ER got me incarcerated in an ICU room. Yes, they locked me in like I was a psych patient because I was unjabbed and was diagnosed with COVID pneumonia.
I can recall asking my ophthalmologist about cataract surgery - how come he didn't have all those letters on his title, what was his complication rate. He noted he was busy doing surgery rather than adding letters. Out of some 10000+ patients he had 1 complication. I was OK with that. Surgery went well, no complications.
This is a horror house.
Yes, but the reason Cuban wants it is to flood the votes with the robots. He will claim the majority has spoken and that the concensus of scientists disagree with you. Majority does not make right.
For Cuban, it’s a game.
The public wants Doctors to seek truth and care… not be threatened sheep.
I don’t really care about the results. I just want to know what specific doctors think about things.
Right particular doctors I trust
5 years after a doctor qualifies 50% of what he is taught is out of date and wrong, and none of them knows which 50%
thats not even getting into the fact they are essentially trained by phama to dish out drugs instead of teaching about real health with vitamins and minerals and asking patients about their lifestyles.
when was the last time a doctor asked what you ate?
My first use of medical system was for iBS in 1993. I was told stress caused and muscle relaxants prescribed. I disregarded this diagnosis and treatment, did a food diary. Gave up lactose and coffee for years problem solved by my library research. Drs never asked me what I took into my body. Absurd diagnosis, at 25 years I became a skeptical of the US medical practice. mercola is a health hero.
I doubt that many doctors, especially the GPs, do any further study or research after they begin practicing. That's when they really start to rely on drug reps for medical advice on the latest and greatest treatments. All drug based, of course.
You are exactly right. And they would never question the cute little rep. Of course you can trust Pfizer.
If anyone thinks that the AMA was created and exists for "the public interest", rather than to enforce and profit from its medical cartel, give this a read:
https://mises.org/library/100-years-medical-robbery
Most people are unaware that prior to the Progressive Era (which never ended, only metastasized unchecked), all sorts of things usurped by the State were handled privately. Welfare, unemployment, life and a form of medical insurance were all provided by fraternal organizations, private organizations voluntarily supported by dues-paying members.
These sorts of organizations were long a prominent feature of American society, and along with professional certification outfits (e.g. Underwriter's Laboratories) were, of course, far better than the bloated, corrupt gaggle of apparatchiks that now afflict us.
Were government-enforced cartels in medicine, law, etc. to be abolished, private organizations would arise to replace them in short order, and all of us (except, of course, the apparatchiks) would be better off for it.
Progressivism, like all forms of collectivism, is little more than a scam to enrich Paula at the expense of Paul, and bamboozle Paul and vast herds of his fellow rubes into cheering for it.
perhaps the most potent argument to be made from this is "imagine what these private, consensual organizations might have evolved into by now after 100 years of the selective pressure of competition and consumer sovereignty."
"imagine what these private, consensual organizations might have evolved into by now after 100 years of the selective pressure of competition and consumer sovereignty."
Here's an essay on what was lost,
http://www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.html
The AMA conspired with govco to destroy Lodge practice, which provided affordable health care to the working poor.
Cheers,
Jeremy
John Michael Greer wrote an essay on the same topic a couple years ago.
https://www.ecosophia.net/knock-and-give-the-password/
I'll also point out that part of that inspired me to join the local lodge, which I'm still in the process of doing.
Good article, thanks for sharing.
For a comprehensive treatment, check out *From Mutual Aid to Welfare State: Fraternal Societies and Social Services, 1890-1967*, by David Beito.
Review: https://mises.org/library/review-mutual-aid-welfare-state-fraternal-societies-and-social-services-1890-1967-david
Tome: https://smile.amazon.com/Mutual-Aid-Welfare-State-Fraternal/dp/0807848417
Thanks to you both for the links. I've followed Beito for years.
Cheers,
Jeremy
I mock doctors when they mention the AMA. I say, “Why should I trust the Doctor’s Union, it’s there for you and not me.” They hate it because it’s true.
I’m also pissed off with my own guild, I say they should be more like the AMA, then we’d all make more money 😀
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.
~ Ralph Waldo Emerson
Yep, who says the AMA and the State Boards of Medicine should run everything?
I mean, we've got other medical associations like the Osteopaths, the Homeopaths, the FLCCC people:
https://osteopathic.org/ https://homeopathy-soh.org/ https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Why not let them compete and accredit their own doctors / healthcare providers. Whichever one provides the most compelling evidence of success is the one I'll go to - and hint, it won't be the morons at the AMA who supported the covid jabs!
Although careful, there’s little difference between a DO and an MD these days. So that’s been co-opted, too.
Yep, so gotta start a new medical association.
I think a new medical association is the last thing we need or want! https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/a-healthy-future-does-not-lie-with the more decentralised the care of our health the better, I say I am in charge of my health absolutely. I only want trauma care please
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No particular expertise was needed to understand submitting to a poorly tested injection (untested medium to long term) employing a radical technology which has never been used as a vaccine, even on livestock, for a virus which poses no meaningful danger to the great majority of people (see IFR data) was obviously foolhardy. That was evident to anyone who did some basic homework before the injections were rolled out. And now we know COVID injections have proven dreadfully dangerous in the short term (see VAERS) while any efficacy wanes rapidly.
The problem is most people won’t look past what the main stream media is peddling, add suppression and vilification of the counter argument into the mix, a “normal person” doesn’t stand a chance. I think the NIH even published a “How to Manual” on the topic.
Indeed, a disturbing percentage of our society fails to think independently and act courageously. And shame on most in the medical "profession". They have destroyed their once considerable credibility.
In reference to your comment regarding "love of authority, and regulatory structure," Belgian psychologist Mattias Desmet discusses the need to eliminate fear and uncertainty by means of rules, in his 2022 book the Psychology of Totalitarianism. In chapter 5 The Desire for a Master p. 84 he states: "They arise mainly from the pressing need among the population for an authoritarian institution that provides direction to take the burden of freedom and the associated insecurity off their shoulders." Unquestioning obedience to the rules of our "expert" masters provides psychological security and comfort, and eliminates any need for thinking. There is therefore no personal responsibility for decisions made, and their consequences to oneself and others.
David Rinker, thank you for this important insight. It explains a lot.
My field is the red-headedest stepchild of them all, and the FDA (presumably with pressure from pharma) is trying to regulate it out of existence for its “dangerous” drugs while pharma shills mock it for being nothing at all; no hypocrisy is too polar for these folks. Despite this abuse at the hands of the mainstream for decades (ever since the Flexner Report), many in my field are begging for “legitimacy” in the form of approved credentialism. For *homeopathy.*
And yet, when a doctor I know ruthlessly ridicules my work and says it only persists because of the corruption in the pharma-medico complex that drives people into the arms of “quacks,” and says that, in a free market for medicine, we wouldn’t exist, I am happy to accept his challenge.
Let the market decide. We don’t need credentialism, we need credibility, and you get that through competent, effective, and transparent service.
I was just about to comment about this Sarah. They’re trying to squeeze you out, and squeeze all of us into the one-size-f*cks-all system of corporate health care that has exploded in the last 15 years.
Chinese medicine is practiced in SF Chinatown. Nobody stops it. Seems like a fine alternative to me. If I found an Ayurvedic doc near me, I’d be happy to go there.
it's actually quite heavily regulated in california. there is a licensing board, exams, whole parallel structure.
But you can find that type of practice through others-not on the internet and certainly not on Twitter (hopefully!)
Are you seriously entertaining the thought of people being allowed to braid someone else's hair, without undergoing extensive training and passing a competency test? People could wind up with uneven braids! It would be an esthetic catastrophe, not to mention their embarrassment! Causing someone to be laughed at is VIOLENCE! People could DIE! Don't you understand? This is to protect the PEOPLE!
And don't even get me started on lemonade stands.
Speaking of lemonade stands, in case you missed, it, this is one that would be good to transcribe, but I could not bear to do it:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1579078826444951552/pu/vid/720x1280/Z68-06pZ745j7Ors.mp4?tag=12
This was via dear naught kitty
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/kitten-corner-assuming-final-forms
Wow 😳 She is off the deep end 😳
I think I would’ve asked her if she was the health inspector and asked for her badge or why she was trying to impersonate the health inspector and told her I was going to report her for it 😆
Insane. 🤪
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From kiddies to the elderly, NOBODY LIKES A SNITCH Marko.
My sister had surgery for a rare type of adrenal cancer in 2012. She was told she might have a year to live. She refused all chemo and radiation and became an expert on how food and exercise could impact her. In Feb of 2021 - ten years after the first surgery - she had surgery for a metastasized recurrence. She again has refused chemo and radiation and is living a robust and healthy life. She has asked several of her doctors along the way, "Do they ever include people like me in treatment trials?" And the answer is, of course, NO. People like my sister are never included as comparators, because the medicocracy wants you to believe you cannot live without its intrusive, authoritarian, and ongoing guidance.
As relates to the c*v*d jabs - those of us who have refused them are like my sister. We are the best comparator group to assess safety and effectiveness, but are not considered the placebo group.
Mengele had credentials! I am sure he took the oath but then decided hey it’s all relative.
Well, look. Nobody ever really cheered the end of feudal fiefdoms. Everybody wanted to be the feudal lord. Everybody still does. You ain't got charm, you can at least try to get power over those who'd laugh you to the back of the crowd otherwise. You're in, or you're out, and it's just based on whatever the guy in power at the moment wants to base it on.
This idea that we're modern, I mean really. Just a primate troop, trooping.
Among my favorite fellow travelers is Doug Casey, founder of Casey Research.
He accurately, and hilariously, describes Democrats and Republicans as two troupes of chimpanzees on either side of a watering hole, jumping up and down, hooting and gesticulating hysterically, and flinging feces at each other.
Better to be the caracal enjoying the clown show from the reeds.
And getting ready to eat the one who tires first.
All great points but unfortunately I live in CA where the untrained government has decided for us :(
Also fast-forward a few years... What will our newly educated doctors have learned from today's medical schools? I shudder to think...
I can weigh in on that! For one, in the US but not in Europe, the materials that they are using to train new doctors for the med test explicitly emphasize the need for "Fluoride supplementation" if a newborn lives in an area without fluoridated water. Otherwise, they will be "Fluoride-deficient". The giant dark force producing these materials is based in Chapel Hill.
"giant dark force" indeed!
Wow
Communist.