California is now in the final stretches of internal "colonial platationeering"....and the "natives" aren't even restless because they are satisfied with their fictitious reality.
Propoganda is the forerunner to state control. Propaganda stands between the idea and the worldvie; between the worldview and the state; between the individual and the party; between the party and the nation.
The people themselves have become bipedal propaganda - they are oblivious to it.
I think this guy nailed it:
"...the corruption of the priesthood occurred at the precise moment in which it changed from a minority organised to impart knowledge into a minority organised to withhold it.
The great danger of decadence in journalism is almost exactly the same. Journalism possesses in itself the potentiality of becoming one of the most frightful monstrosities and delusions that have ever cursed mankind.
This horrible transformation will occur at the exact instant at which journalists realise that they can become an aristocrat...." G.K. Chesterton
The slavers of the past did it wrong. They should have said "If you come with us, we'll give you free food, free housing, free clothing, and access to European technology. Your children and their children will be also eligible for all these benefits. You'll also get an all expense paid ocean cruise to an exotic new land. All you have to do is help us collect some fluffy white plants."
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude, than the animating contest of freedom- go from us in peace. Crouch down & lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, & may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
Remember that "slavers" of the colonial era used locals to round up those to be enslaved. It was Africans who rounded up Africans to be shipped to the colonies. Remember that Hitler was elected, and got the legislature to dismantle itself. He promised prosperity, to right an injustice (treaty obligations from WWI), to secure the homeland. Every murder was for the greater good. And he could not have gotten there without controlling information flow and perpetuating his version of "truth" (propaganda). Reading what Hitler wrote before he became the murderous dictator is enlightening - and will seem familiar if you've been paying attention the last few decades ;-)
Of course that free transportation at that time was a huge roll of the dice on whether you made it alive to your destination, but that risk was up front. Today's slaves can't see it because the risk is on the back end and is even bigger when it fails. And it will. The taller they build that house of cards, the more catastrophic will be the fall.
Not all. I was born in Orange County California in 1950 so I think that qualifies me as a native, and I’m as restless as hell. Except for a few months here and there i’ve lived my entire life in California and watched it slowly go to hell. if I wasn’t so deeply dug in, I would’ve been one of the millions that have fled this hell hole and I’d have done it many years ago.
I wish that I had the financial resources to leave. I’m too old and too poor to start over in a saner jurisdiction. These neofascists have destroyed the most amazing place in the world. This de facto one party state is a preview of what the Democrats have in store for the rest of the country.
Surely there are good people in California, ones who have immunized themselves to the propaganda. These are the ones hoping to form the State of New California. I doubt seriously this will happen but they are trying. And yes, journalism is corrupted but has always been vulnerable. "You can't believe everything you read in the newspaper."
I went to college in San Diego for a couple years in the mid-70s & it was really a great place then. We continued to vacation there when my boys were young & we still have some friends there. But when the state really went off the rails, we vowed we’ll never go again or contribute to its economy unless we have to attend a wedding (or funeral). Even then we’d have to think about it!
I hope you will reconsider. There are still a lot of good, friendly and tolerant folks here in the once great state of California. We've learned to keep our heads down (sometimes), avoid certain topics in public, and so on...but if you seek like minds you can find them here (just have to look around and maybe learn the secret handshake ;-).
I can tell you it's easy to fall into apathy out there. I still go back fairly often and every time I leave I tell myself there's no possible way I could feel less patriotic...until the next time I go.
That's sorta saying a lot because I'm not prone to the apathy trap.
But I wonder if I would be more inclined to do so if I were still there and having to deal with it every day?
Look kids, even when you're being suppressed and oppressed, there are ways to spread the word. Sometimes you have to be subtle (LOL - because I have a well earned reputation for nothing like subtle!).
You can't convince the faithful to abandon The Party by direct challenge. They've been trained for that. It's harder every day, but I still manage to sow some doubt in the minds of true believers by asking "innocent" (non-confrontational" questions. Yeah a lot of misfires. E.g. don't ask a follower of The Party who voted for Biden in the primary how they feel about their vote being ignored (I've tried it).
Casual questions that start "isn't it interesting that " and "tell me what you know about..." can be used to lead people to see the logical inconsistencies and overt hypocrisy. I always a clear I am not disagreeing, only seeking to understand their viewpoint - which is the truth. Never disagree with the delusion. And I truly am curious how otherwise capable and rational people reach seemingly (to me) irrational conclusions.
Most of all, be aware and sensitive to the insecure. It is getting harder and harder to stay the course of The Party if you think about it much. Be gentle. Yield when their fight, flight or deny panic kicks in, which it will, and most choose fight and deny. Let them argue with themselves :-).
To remain human, take refuge from time to time in conversation with folks who enjoy a discussion and can receive as well as transmit. Like the folks we find here - not always in agreement but wiling to converse.
I live in Silicon Valley (aka the Heart of Darkness), but spend quite a bit of time in the rural areas, and once you leave the urban sprawl it is like a different country.
Driving up I-5 to Shasta and other points north in 2020 there were Trump signs everywhere, some tacked to multiple big-rig trailers visible for miles, and a plethora of others eviscerating the Dems and their insane policies. Although the big-rigs have gone, even up to last weekend on the route to Shaver Lake there are still such signs all over the place.
Literally everyone I speak to out in the hinterland is outraged to one extent or another, and this has increased markedly over the last year or so.
As you say, however, there is a resignation, but to a large extent it is warranted. These people see clearly that they have essentially been disenfranchised by the Dems and increasingly understand that they will not vote their way out of this.
Most of these conversations end with the same question:
I see a LOT of that and more. It's beyond "nothing I can do" to "I better keep my mouth shut". The intolerance of intellectual diversity has run amok and continues to expand. It's now not enough to shut up about Trump if you think he's not all that bad or worse than the alternative - if you fail to denounce Trump when called upon to do so, you become a target. Go ahead, ask me how I know.
The "good people" in CA are a beleaguered silenced minority, too tired, too poor, too beaten down by the state machine and its political pawns (on both sides if the isle) to fight back let alone fight for what is right.
Well we all might be if we had to commute 2 hours each way in "Corona Crush" traffic just to get to work...or spending 45 minutes looking for a pigeon hole for a parking spot at Vons, etc.
searching for parking to go grocery shopping was something that ensured I would leave there as soon as I could. Of course, that was in the 90s when things were still relatively good.
We have more representatives in the state assembly for the counties surrounding LA than for the rest of the state combined. It's apportionment. The water for LA is stolen from Northern California. We don't have representation because we live in the forest instead of in the city. We need to split the state
There are a few of us. I just moved back here after 15 years in Vermont, but I'm in a little mountain town far away from the insanity of Silicon Valley, where I worked and lived for almost 40 years. I did this mainly to be near family (my mom is 91) and the Sierra Nevada, my favorite place in the whole world.
The depressing thing is that Vermont was no better, and worse in some ways. Maybe Florida is a bit more sane, but I couldn't bring myself to live in a tropical climate with no mountains.
That's right, living in Florida, I miss the mountains too, but oh my, does it compensate not to have a moron as governor! :) Also, we have deepfake hills xDDD As far as I know they make a mount of rubbish and then cover it with soil, control the fumes and vuala, you have a new hill :P
Yes, I experienced those beach hills on a visit in March 2022. I had a great time there, the weather was lovely, and the general air of sanity was refreshing after the fear-laden atmosphere of Vermont.
I like to think I am one of those good people. It's not an easy path. I am not a separatist or ready to retreat. I was born here (of southern blood that still runs through me). I am not ready to abandon my home as so many others have felt compelled to do - and I totally understand why they felt that way.
A popular false narrative is that journalism was ever not "corrupt" by political agendas. Journalism - the free press - exists to further political agendas. This is why our architects protected "the press" and speech - to enable political expression without government controls. Control of "the press" and suppression of speech are essential steps in dominating a people, and is always on the first pages of the domination playbook. Journalism has never been something you can trust to be accurate and truthful.
From the "shall make no law..." prohibition to laws that favor certain media organizations as a special, exempted class, is a very, very long and twisted logical trail.
No. He was scornful of the self-appointed intermediaries but the religion itself is based on the concept of an intermediary--with all that trinity stuff to fudge it. He was just another intellectual who tied himself in knots in order to avoid common sense.
This SCOTUS. In a decade the answer may be very different, and it may take that long for this to wind its way there. Nothing is as dangerous as authoritarians on a "moral" mission to save us from ourselves.
It's interesting how widely the federal ability to regulate interstate commerce is able to be interpreted, or the civil rights laws, while at the same time how narrowly the protection form unreasonable search and seizure or domestic surveillance.
Arguably the root of most Federal evil was the 1942 case of Wickard v. Filburn, which essentially granted the Feds unlimited regulatory power that has since been used to expand it over all aspects of life.
If it were to be overturned, it would be a huge step towards restoring our liberty.
What if we all reposted the very last, very excellent video in el Gato's post, and had them taken down...would we all then have standing to make a class action that could eventually go to SCOTUS? And get Robert Barnes to represent us!
I wonder if the open letter by dozens of former 'intelligence' officials regarding the Hunter Biden laptop would be an example of this bullshit? Defending democracy by censoring...you can't make up better parody. It would be really funny if it wasn't so scary.
"and consider also how labeling might be used to great effect by branding all sorts of true or debatable speech by one’s foes false while failing to demarcate one’s own lies and thus making them seem true simply by virtue of lacking labeling."
That's already occurring, I suppose now they are merely codifying it. Did anything ever get fact checked during Covid that turned out not to be true? "It stops transmission and infection." "two weeks to stop the spread." "It's not for you it's for everyone around you."
or OTOH, how much simpler it would be able to see which is true and which is BS by using the labels as a contra-indicator. I mean at this point, most MSM news is used as a source of locating the skeletons.
At least when we spread what they consider to be “misinformation” it’s actually based on truth and packaged in silliness/memes/parody/humor. Or if not, then it has always been a factual video of a factual happening, completely unedited and shared with the public.
Their actual lies have not been packaged in ANYthing like that at all, but given to us from “authoritative” sources presented in a factual, indisputable reporting manner with the purpose of truly deceiving. They deceive their own supporters so they will go on their talk shows and do the rest for them, with sincerity and grave tones. Much of their lies in video format used editing to deceive. I’ve honestly not seen our side do much of that at all, but that’s all I’ve seen from them.
Speaking from a nation where the law makes that distinction between "real" (.i.e. regime-approved/aligned) media sources and all others, and also subsidises those media that conform to the regime's values and norms (which are described in vague and largely undefined terms, so that one might always have violated them if it be convenient to the state that it be so) - you need to, you /must/ fight and defeat this, or you will have lost what free speech you still got.
This bid from Newsom is the proverbial "just the tip, honey".
Nah, though the thought of emigrating has crossed my mind (Romania or Hungary being high on the list, there's a smallish seed of a colony of expat Swedes in both nations) I'm to bloody-minded and stubborn to up sticks and leave.
Especially since I try to live by "They haven't won until you give up".
I respect the courage, but also I'm sure that's what many of the Jews remaining in Germany in the late 1930s thought. The difference this time though is there's nowhere that will remain free.
Boy this made me raging angry overnight as I read about it. How can any government official get away with promoting this kind of censorship, no matter how narrowly defined/presented, when our constitution states specifically that they cannot. Why bother hiding it when they forced social media to censor over Covid if they were just going to come right out and do things like this? Oh yes, to test the waters. And over 67% of the public failed!
Free speech is not only for what is true and what we like to hear, free speech is for all speech and nobody gets to “protect us” from someone saying something we don’t like on social media or something that isn’t true. Like RFKJr said, the solution is more speech, not less. And we already have libel and defamation laws in place to protect from attacking reputation, as well as advertising laws, and malpractice laws. That’s where the protections lie, not at the point of opening our mouths or keyboards.
I personally divested myself in 2020 and moved to the Free State of Florida. I would encourage others to do the same. Leave California to the migrants, homeless, drug addicts, and AWFULs.
No online platform would be able to remove content based on the residence of the viewer, so this measure would have national and international implications. Goons!
Some of our best scientists were professors, academics, at Stanford at the beginning of the plandemic. Drs. Ioannidis, Battacharya, Atlas, Levine. How can they stand being associated with such a rogue uni?
Sorry. Battacharya was a shot pusher in the start of 2020. That makes him complicit with Pharma and the State. Reputation soured. His SS is still promoting Malone. ew.
Battacharya: Virus and antibody (2 min mark) narrative reinforcement. See his interview (april 2020) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7v2F3usNVA (42 mins). Did he review Fan Wu SC2 "Discovery" paper? No. A Genebank Sequence is not a particle. C19 was 100% Behavioral Test, Surveillance Tech, and Money laundering.
If he can't figure out Malone is a POS liar, then jay is not worthy of praise (Barrington Declaration or not). He has an article with RM regarding Info warfare/5th Gen (ironic bro) from only a few months ago. Jay, go read Dissolving Illusions. Ryan, carry on.
California is now in the final stretches of internal "colonial platationeering"....and the "natives" aren't even restless because they are satisfied with their fictitious reality.
Propoganda is the forerunner to state control. Propaganda stands between the idea and the worldvie; between the worldview and the state; between the individual and the party; between the party and the nation.
The people themselves have become bipedal propaganda - they are oblivious to it.
I think this guy nailed it:
"...the corruption of the priesthood occurred at the precise moment in which it changed from a minority organised to impart knowledge into a minority organised to withhold it.
The great danger of decadence in journalism is almost exactly the same. Journalism possesses in itself the potentiality of becoming one of the most frightful monstrosities and delusions that have ever cursed mankind.
This horrible transformation will occur at the exact instant at which journalists realise that they can become an aristocrat...." G.K. Chesterton
The slavers of the past did it wrong. They should have said "If you come with us, we'll give you free food, free housing, free clothing, and access to European technology. Your children and their children will be also eligible for all these benefits. You'll also get an all expense paid ocean cruise to an exotic new land. All you have to do is help us collect some fluffy white plants."
Well I think Sam Adams had a point about that:
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude, than the animating contest of freedom- go from us in peace. Crouch down & lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, & may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
The most pathetic slaves are the ones that convince themselves that they are not.
"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
~Dresden James
(Donald James Wheal (1931-2008))
Remember that "slavers" of the colonial era used locals to round up those to be enslaved. It was Africans who rounded up Africans to be shipped to the colonies. Remember that Hitler was elected, and got the legislature to dismantle itself. He promised prosperity, to right an injustice (treaty obligations from WWI), to secure the homeland. Every murder was for the greater good. And he could not have gotten there without controlling information flow and perpetuating his version of "truth" (propaganda). Reading what Hitler wrote before he became the murderous dictator is enlightening - and will seem familiar if you've been paying attention the last few decades ;-)
Hitler was appointed.
Ooh I like that one
Just as "there are none so blind as those who WILL not see".
Of course that free transportation at that time was a huge roll of the dice on whether you made it alive to your destination, but that risk was up front. Today's slaves can't see it because the risk is on the back end and is even bigger when it fails. And it will. The taller they build that house of cards, the more catastrophic will be the fall.
True, but plenty of Europeans made the trip voluntarily. It's what you think you will get at the end of the trip that makes the difference.
Not all. I was born in Orange County California in 1950 so I think that qualifies me as a native, and I’m as restless as hell. Except for a few months here and there i’ve lived my entire life in California and watched it slowly go to hell. if I wasn’t so deeply dug in, I would’ve been one of the millions that have fled this hell hole and I’d have done it many years ago.
I hear. Recently left there for Florida to escape c19 totalitarianism.
Might as well be different countries
I wish that I had the financial resources to leave. I’m too old and too poor to start over in a saner jurisdiction. These neofascists have destroyed the most amazing place in the world. This de facto one party state is a preview of what the Democrats have in store for the rest of the country.
Surely there are good people in California, ones who have immunized themselves to the propaganda. These are the ones hoping to form the State of New California. I doubt seriously this will happen but they are trying. And yes, journalism is corrupted but has always been vulnerable. "You can't believe everything you read in the newspaper."
Oh there are...but there really isn't good oppositional leadership to be found.
I grew up in CA and lived there most of my life. It is hard to describe how drastically it has changed since the late 90's.
The most concerning aspect to me is that most non-loonies are just resigned to thinking there's nothing they can do about it.
At least that's what I see with friends and family who are still in CA
I went to college in San Diego for a couple years in the mid-70s & it was really a great place then. We continued to vacation there when my boys were young & we still have some friends there. But when the state really went off the rails, we vowed we’ll never go again or contribute to its economy unless we have to attend a wedding (or funeral). Even then we’d have to think about it!
Yeah for sure. When I grew up in SD during the 70's and 80's it was still a sleepy "little" naval town.
Now it's basically and exurb of LA.
Sadly so. I went to USD for a couple years.
That's where my wife got her degree
I hope you will reconsider. There are still a lot of good, friendly and tolerant folks here in the once great state of California. We've learned to keep our heads down (sometimes), avoid certain topics in public, and so on...but if you seek like minds you can find them here (just have to look around and maybe learn the secret handshake ;-).
I know that because the friends we still have there are staunch conservatives. But we will not contribute to Grusome Nusom’s coffers….
“The most concerning aspect to me is that most non-loonies are just resigned to thinking there's nothing they can do about it [in California].”
Are they wrong, though, given how badly they’re outnumbered? I’d like to think they are, but…but I can’t think of a way to finish that sentence.
"Refenstrated"
*snicker*
Right?
I can tell you it's easy to fall into apathy out there. I still go back fairly often and every time I leave I tell myself there's no possible way I could feel less patriotic...until the next time I go.
That's sorta saying a lot because I'm not prone to the apathy trap.
But I wonder if I would be more inclined to do so if I were still there and having to deal with it every day?
Look kids, even when you're being suppressed and oppressed, there are ways to spread the word. Sometimes you have to be subtle (LOL - because I have a well earned reputation for nothing like subtle!).
You can't convince the faithful to abandon The Party by direct challenge. They've been trained for that. It's harder every day, but I still manage to sow some doubt in the minds of true believers by asking "innocent" (non-confrontational" questions. Yeah a lot of misfires. E.g. don't ask a follower of The Party who voted for Biden in the primary how they feel about their vote being ignored (I've tried it).
Casual questions that start "isn't it interesting that " and "tell me what you know about..." can be used to lead people to see the logical inconsistencies and overt hypocrisy. I always a clear I am not disagreeing, only seeking to understand their viewpoint - which is the truth. Never disagree with the delusion. And I truly am curious how otherwise capable and rational people reach seemingly (to me) irrational conclusions.
Most of all, be aware and sensitive to the insecure. It is getting harder and harder to stay the course of The Party if you think about it much. Be gentle. Yield when their fight, flight or deny panic kicks in, which it will, and most choose fight and deny. Let them argue with themselves :-).
To remain human, take refuge from time to time in conversation with folks who enjoy a discussion and can receive as well as transmit. Like the folks we find here - not always in agreement but wiling to converse.
I live in Silicon Valley (aka the Heart of Darkness), but spend quite a bit of time in the rural areas, and once you leave the urban sprawl it is like a different country.
Driving up I-5 to Shasta and other points north in 2020 there were Trump signs everywhere, some tacked to multiple big-rig trailers visible for miles, and a plethora of others eviscerating the Dems and their insane policies. Although the big-rigs have gone, even up to last weekend on the route to Shaver Lake there are still such signs all over the place.
Literally everyone I speak to out in the hinterland is outraged to one extent or another, and this has increased markedly over the last year or so.
As you say, however, there is a resignation, but to a large extent it is warranted. These people see clearly that they have essentially been disenfranchised by the Dems and increasingly understand that they will not vote their way out of this.
Most of these conversations end with the same question:
What can be done?
I see a LOT of that and more. It's beyond "nothing I can do" to "I better keep my mouth shut". The intolerance of intellectual diversity has run amok and continues to expand. It's now not enough to shut up about Trump if you think he's not all that bad or worse than the alternative - if you fail to denounce Trump when called upon to do so, you become a target. Go ahead, ask me how I know.
The "good people" in CA are a beleaguered silenced minority, too tired, too poor, too beaten down by the state machine and its political pawns (on both sides if the isle) to fight back let alone fight for what is right.
Well we all might be if we had to commute 2 hours each way in "Corona Crush" traffic just to get to work...or spending 45 minutes looking for a pigeon hole for a parking spot at Vons, etc.
searching for parking to go grocery shopping was something that ensured I would leave there as soon as I could. Of course, that was in the 90s when things were still relatively good.
We have more representatives in the state assembly for the counties surrounding LA than for the rest of the state combined. It's apportionment. The water for LA is stolen from Northern California. We don't have representation because we live in the forest instead of in the city. We need to split the state
Amen!
The State of Jefferson.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/state-of-jefferson-EjjO28WQSPGb7EyjYaYGtQ
Doesn’t sound like it matters, there’s good people in China, Russia, Cuba, Iran, N. Korea, Haiti, Great Britain . . .
There are a few of us. I just moved back here after 15 years in Vermont, but I'm in a little mountain town far away from the insanity of Silicon Valley, where I worked and lived for almost 40 years. I did this mainly to be near family (my mom is 91) and the Sierra Nevada, my favorite place in the whole world.
The depressing thing is that Vermont was no better, and worse in some ways. Maybe Florida is a bit more sane, but I couldn't bring myself to live in a tropical climate with no mountains.
That's right, living in Florida, I miss the mountains too, but oh my, does it compensate not to have a moron as governor! :) Also, we have deepfake hills xDDD As far as I know they make a mount of rubbish and then cover it with soil, control the fumes and vuala, you have a new hill :P
Thanks for the laugh. I'll keep the rubbish mountains in mind if/when I consider moving to Florida.
no mountains... not even a hill.
now, now, hills in central and northern Florida... and of course lots of beach hills (sandy ones).
Yes, I experienced those beach hills on a visit in March 2022. I had a great time there, the weather was lovely, and the general air of sanity was refreshing after the fear-laden atmosphere of Vermont.
I like to think I am one of those good people. It's not an easy path. I am not a separatist or ready to retreat. I was born here (of southern blood that still runs through me). I am not ready to abandon my home as so many others have felt compelled to do - and I totally understand why they felt that way.
A popular false narrative is that journalism was ever not "corrupt" by political agendas. Journalism - the free press - exists to further political agendas. This is why our architects protected "the press" and speech - to enable political expression without government controls. Control of "the press" and suppression of speech are essential steps in dominating a people, and is always on the first pages of the domination playbook. Journalism has never been something you can trust to be accurate and truthful.
From the "shall make no law..." prohibition to laws that favor certain media organizations as a special, exempted class, is a very, very long and twisted logical trail.
"...the corruption of the priesthood occurred"
That's a pretty fantastic insight right there.
Well, Chesterton. He still adhered to the foundational error.
Yeah but that's similar to judging Washington for the sins of the past.
No. He was scornful of the self-appointed intermediaries but the religion itself is based on the concept of an intermediary--with all that trinity stuff to fudge it. He was just another intellectual who tied himself in knots in order to avoid common sense.
No way this nonsense survives SCOTUS. Newsom is an oily menace.
This SCOTUS. In a decade the answer may be very different, and it may take that long for this to wind its way there. Nothing is as dangerous as authoritarians on a "moral" mission to save us from ourselves.
Maybe...but by then it's too late. They'll just find a way like water around stones.
Similar to how the 5 eyes allows the feds to circumvent the constitution so they can spie on us "indirectly"...or through NGO cut-outs
It's interesting how widely the federal ability to regulate interstate commerce is able to be interpreted, or the civil rights laws, while at the same time how narrowly the protection form unreasonable search and seizure or domestic surveillance.
Arguably the root of most Federal evil was the 1942 case of Wickard v. Filburn, which essentially granted the Feds unlimited regulatory power that has since been used to expand it over all aspects of life.
If it were to be overturned, it would be a huge step towards restoring our liberty.
Sadly, I won't be holding my breath.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/317/111
The government does not rule against itself because we refuse to withdrawal our consent.
Sounds like somebody's been reading :)
Oleaginous!
What if we all reposted the very last, very excellent video in el Gato's post, and had them taken down...would we all then have standing to make a class action that could eventually go to SCOTUS? And get Robert Barnes to represent us!
Welcome to 1984... Who knew that we would one day have a Black market for memes...
I wonder if the open letter by dozens of former 'intelligence' officials regarding the Hunter Biden laptop would be an example of this bullshit? Defending democracy by censoring...you can't make up better parody. It would be really funny if it wasn't so scary.
Here's the scariest part to me:
"and consider also how labeling might be used to great effect by branding all sorts of true or debatable speech by one’s foes false while failing to demarcate one’s own lies and thus making them seem true simply by virtue of lacking labeling."
You talk about insidious...
That's already occurring, I suppose now they are merely codifying it. Did anything ever get fact checked during Covid that turned out not to be true? "It stops transmission and infection." "two weeks to stop the spread." "It's not for you it's for everyone around you."
Yes. Exactly. The last debate...on and on.
or OTOH, how much simpler it would be able to see which is true and which is BS by using the labels as a contra-indicator. I mean at this point, most MSM news is used as a source of locating the skeletons.
Good point
Isn't that what just happened in the Trump/Kamala debate?
Exactly
At least when we spread what they consider to be “misinformation” it’s actually based on truth and packaged in silliness/memes/parody/humor. Or if not, then it has always been a factual video of a factual happening, completely unedited and shared with the public.
Their actual lies have not been packaged in ANYthing like that at all, but given to us from “authoritative” sources presented in a factual, indisputable reporting manner with the purpose of truly deceiving. They deceive their own supporters so they will go on their talk shows and do the rest for them, with sincerity and grave tones. Much of their lies in video format used editing to deceive. I’ve honestly not seen our side do much of that at all, but that’s all I’ve seen from them.
Speaking from a nation where the law makes that distinction between "real" (.i.e. regime-approved/aligned) media sources and all others, and also subsidises those media that conform to the regime's values and norms (which are described in vague and largely undefined terms, so that one might always have violated them if it be convenient to the state that it be so) - you need to, you /must/ fight and defeat this, or you will have lost what free speech you still got.
This bid from Newsom is the proverbial "just the tip, honey".
Cut it off.
Have you moved to America?
Ha! Good one!
Nah, though the thought of emigrating has crossed my mind (Romania or Hungary being high on the list, there's a smallish seed of a colony of expat Swedes in both nations) I'm to bloody-minded and stubborn to up sticks and leave.
Especially since I try to live by "They haven't won until you give up".
I respect the courage, but also I'm sure that's what many of the Jews remaining in Germany in the late 1930s thought. The difference this time though is there's nowhere that will remain free.
Boy this made me raging angry overnight as I read about it. How can any government official get away with promoting this kind of censorship, no matter how narrowly defined/presented, when our constitution states specifically that they cannot. Why bother hiding it when they forced social media to censor over Covid if they were just going to come right out and do things like this? Oh yes, to test the waters. And over 67% of the public failed!
Free speech is not only for what is true and what we like to hear, free speech is for all speech and nobody gets to “protect us” from someone saying something we don’t like on social media or something that isn’t true. Like RFKJr said, the solution is more speech, not less. And we already have libel and defamation laws in place to protect from attacking reputation, as well as advertising laws, and malpractice laws. That’s where the protections lie, not at the point of opening our mouths or keyboards.
Can we divest ourselves of CA? It's overdue.
I personally divested myself in 2020 and moved to the Free State of Florida. I would encourage others to do the same. Leave California to the migrants, homeless, drug addicts, and AWFULs.
Same
it is coming. I doubt in my life time, but dispossession will occur on a grand scale at some point soon.... unless it doesn't :-/
No online platform would be able to remove content based on the residence of the viewer, so this measure would have national and international implications. Goons!
California has always used that technique to push their agenda on others, beginning with their motor vehicle emissions standards.
Yeah you’ve heard that saying that you can vote your way in but have to shoot your way out. Welp?
Wow! That last video was fantastic!!
It should be spread far and wide!!!!!!!!
Oh also, 4 words for Mr. Newsome:
“ Thou. Shalt. Not. Abridge.”
I was thinking "Fuck off and die" but yours is much better :)
They can work together. 😏
Some of our best scientists were professors, academics, at Stanford at the beginning of the plandemic. Drs. Ioannidis, Battacharya, Atlas, Levine. How can they stand being associated with such a rogue uni?
Sorry. Battacharya was a shot pusher in the start of 2020. That makes him complicit with Pharma and the State. Reputation soured. His SS is still promoting Malone. ew.
Battacharya: Virus and antibody (2 min mark) narrative reinforcement. See his interview (april 2020) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7v2F3usNVA (42 mins). Did he review Fan Wu SC2 "Discovery" paper? No. A Genebank Sequence is not a particle. C19 was 100% Behavioral Test, Surveillance Tech, and Money laundering.
People change. But agree with your last sentence entirely
If he can't figure out Malone is a POS liar, then jay is not worthy of praise (Barrington Declaration or not). He has an article with RM regarding Info warfare/5th Gen (ironic bro) from only a few months ago. Jay, go read Dissolving Illusions. Ryan, carry on.
Newsom is a reflection of the US. Slimy, fake, and a destroyer of one’s health and sanity.
Most of us aren't like that. Just the coastal elites and urban idiots.
In otherwords, the "Dregs of Society".
I’m very selective in who I call a “ TOOL”….i reserve the word for just the biggest most obnoxious male jackasses… and Gavin Newsome is a tool.
I love it when you get all spicy!
As with all censorship, this will only cut one way, and will immediately turn into a means to silence political opposition. Censors will own media.
Just posted this article to my Facebook page. It was banned moments later.
Facebook is not fit for purpose.
Nobody has to follow unconstitutional laws
Problem is that the Enforcers might take a dim view of your failure to obey, regardless of its legality.