Here it goes; let's start a shock and awe campaign and rain down so many digital mocking bullets and truth bombs on these glowies that we overwhelm the system and they have to start consolidating list of all the list we're on.
And maybe just maybe they'll get the real message:
We are the people. We are the many. We're here to take our power back. It is our house and henceforth we withdrawal our consent. Here are our demands. And don't ever fuck with us again because the next time we decline consent you won't mistake 'Yankee Doodle' for a nursery rhyme.
Admire your attitude. Wish we had more of that. Out of curiosity, when you say "they," who specifically do you mean? That is, if I were dictator for a day and put you in charge of removing "them" to a desert island where they could do no more harm, how would you know who to grab?
4th of July isn't what it used to be and here in Los Angeles it's all about having loud explosives in your hand. Wonder how we can utilize that to our benefit just different explosives.
The phenomena you describe is basically explained by the fact that Mexicans like fireworks and those who live in USA have one more holiday to light off things that go boom.
And you know they're all fantasizing about blowing things up instead of just fireworks. Give them what they want so they can live out the fantasy to help get back our country.
I am a national lab retiree. I thought we were doing a lot of good work along with the bomb-making. In retrospect I realize, as it is a weapons lab, everything was supposed to have a weapon application, duh. Naivete.
It waxes cynical, but you should assume that any Federal agency, many non-profits, and even large corporations (e.g. the "before" Twitter and maybe still....) are at least influenced by the Deep State. That doesn't mean the CIA runs everything But you're a fool if you can't see -- or more likely suspect -- the hidden powers behind the scene, the puppet masters who actually pull the strings. I suppose it's possible that sometimes there are actually honest charities and volunteer organizations that are dong their stated work. For example, I suppose your local animal shelter is not a CIA front, although in the Washington suburbs I would not bet against it!
If only the bad cat would write about geoengineering, nanotechnology, electrified air, laser pulses, the Internet of Bio-Nano Things, the WBAN, the Human Terrain System, Net-Centric Warfare, Professor, Ian F. Akyildiz, optogenetics, tissue-scaffolding, wireless drugging, gene-editing, synthetic telepathy, EEG heterodyning, Prima Frequency, the Global Information Grid, HAARP, CERN, D-WAVE, molecular communication, cellular voltage, Dr. Michael Levin, satellites, the terahertz band, gangstalking, IMSI Catchers, digital twins, Project Maven and Transhumanism.
If you want the truth about the alarmingly extent of our open-air digital prison then, read "Geoengineered Transhumanism" and "Under An Ionized Sky" by author, Elana Freeland.
Appalling. I’m flabbergasted anyone listens to him! How did he grab so much power without even being elected to have it??
Who is he to decide where our tax dollars go? Or whose life isn’t worth keeping? Does he have a crystal ball to know for certain they’d only have 3 months left? What if the hospitals or care homes are wrong and that family could still enjoy another full year or more of their loved one? Regardless it’s disgusting to spend money the way rich people like him do and then dictate how our excessive tax dollars should be spent. Give up all your luxuries first, Bill, and live like the rest of us before telling us what we should do with our loved ones.
I'm sure that's meant as gallows humor. But the point bears developing a bit further: You might as well stand up for what you believe in but do so intelligently*. Keeping silent and going along with the Latest Thing only works up to a point. That point is when it's your turn to board the boxcar. If you think being a good boy will protect you, you are woefully ignorant of the history of revolutions and other dystopian periods. There's even a popular meme about that: Stalin literally had Trotsky airbrushed out of history.
The treatment of the January 6 "insurrectionists" is a case in point. These may not have been sent to the death camps, but a lot of people are in jail awaiting trial or already serving months or years because they essentially trespassed at the U.S. Capitol.
*Of course there are limits; if you are dumb enough to conspire to kidnap a Governor, join a local “militia” set up by the FBI and advocate the violent overthrow of the government or other stupid shit, you probably deserve what you're going to get.
depends on the news they watch and how much they pay attention. But even the brightest people get conned. In fact they get conned because they think they are too smart to get conned. I got to say that over the last 4 years I have learned that most of what I "knew" about the world wasn't true or not quite accurate.
The wild fraud that was “Covid” made me go where I never thought I would go — places I thought were only inhabited by tinfoil hat crazies:
• JFK
• Vietnam
• WMDs
• 9/11
• moon landings (yes! — watch the video entitled “American Moon” and tell me it didn’t make you at least wonder)
I can’t now help but view the “news” with deep suspicion — a not so cryptic declaration of “their” intentions — and see the hand of the “IC” everywhere, especially anywhere “power” is concentrated.
They broke the trust and that put everything on the table. This is a time of revelation - in the secular sense at least. But maybe in the biblical sense as well. everything IS on the table.
Indeed., everything IS on the table. The public forum's on the table and shall cease to exist altogether unless the threat is adequately recognised by the citizens. This planned destruction of public discourse is like an asteroid that just missed but circles the sun for another pass...quite probably before November 2024.
Right, but the challenge is how to do it smart. This isn't about citizens taking up arms. (hopefully). It is about how to make real voting count, how to monkey wrench things, how to inform more people who haven't been paying enough attention or have felt helpless. And continuing what is being done - revealing and opposing their plans such as the win just achieved by the WHO failing to get their pandemic treaty to control the world. We have to push for accountability and criminal financial penalties. Closing the border and holding those who invited and assisted the invasion. That includes those in our government, the UN, the NGOs the Catholic and Lutheran Charities and sundry others, and the airline that transport them direct into all parts of our country (and Europe as well). If that isn't enough, the Woke and DEI bullshit must end. We all and our Bad Cat is going to be busy. I am glad he hasn't been declawed.
How to do it smart is right. What I want to know is where are all the billionaires and super wealthy corporations that still have a conscience? Like him or not, Elon Musk used his wealth to reopen an avenue for free speech and for all to be heard. When I hear the vicious, violent backlash against X spreading misinformation and how Musk ruined Twitter, I can’t help but grin deeply, and thank God for Musk. I know there is still a lot of controlled narrative on there, but now I see just as much truth telling too. It’s a balance as it should be.
But where are other billionaires that would be willing to rival Big Pharma ad slots on TV and cable, to help get the other side of the stories out? To force MSM and entertainment to give equal time to opposing views. I realize we think money corrupts all, but isn’t there SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, other than Musk who can see using their money to combat the cancer in our government and media? It is just as much of a charitable cause as anything else right now. I think it’s going to take that kind of help for our voices to be heard because being heard in this current day and age costs a lot of money.
Choice of wording is apt: To a large degree, the Western world has been "captured" or "heavily influenced" might be a better term by various forms of Marxist/Socialist/Communist ideology, dating back a century or so. Based on my admittedly summary knowledge of Soviet Communism, a key term of that ideology is that the Revolution was ongoing until, I suppose, the promised final stage was reached (Did you notice it never arrives?). From that perspective, the government once in power must always promote the "Revolution." This explains why any resistance to the government's policies is called "counter-revolutionary." Especially in the past few decades, we’ve seen many examples of what I’d term “revolutionary” proposals and at times actual efforts, from WITHIN government (or their cutouts) to push forwarded some revolutionary agenda. The “fight” against “climate change” is a prime example, but “Racism” or the Covid-19 “pandemic” provide good illustrations among a long list of others.
As an aging conservative, I would welcome an honest-to-God counter-revolution. At some point, I think it's time to stand up and put an end to illegal immigrants camping in the woods across the street from my home, or for green-haired nose-ring wearing individuals of indeterminate sex teaching our children in public schools.
Me too. I really wonder now about the moon landings. I was a sci-fi fan from when I was 5 years old. I wanted to believe we went to the moon. I wonder if the Mars stuff is real now, too.
"I am the source for this quote, which was indeed said by CIA Director William Casey at an early February 1981 meeting of the newly elected President Reagan with his new cabinet secretaries to report to him on what they had learned about their agencies in the first couple of weeks of the administration. The meeting was in the Roosevelt Room in the West Wing of the White House, not far from the Cabinet Room. I was present at the meeting as Assistant to the chief domestic policy adviser to the President. Casey first told Reagan that he had been astonished to discover that over 80 percent of the 'intelligence' that the analysis side of the CIA produced was based on open public sources like newspapers and magazines. As he did to all the other secretaries of their departments and agencies, Reagan asked what he saw as his goal as director for the CIA, to which he replied with this quote, which I recorded in my notes of the meeting as he said it. Shortly thereafter I told Senior White House correspondent Sarah McClendon, who was a close friend and colleague, who in turn made it public.
You are not alone! And as a person who dislikes anything that smacks of authority and doubts most things until I prove it myself, still fully believed that terrorists committed 9/11, Big Pharma had my best health in mind (by the grace of God, I did smell a rat w/the death jab!🙏🏻🙌🏻), and that most of the elected conservatives were fighting back against the looney left! It’s been a painful 4 years.
I think it’s time our household unplugged all Alexa Dots. Permanently. The conveniences do not outweigh the risks. I’ve always known they record every word spoken in our house and store it on some servers somewhere. Granted they probably could care less about our discussions regarding how high to mow our grass or which puppy cut we like best for our dog, but we do have passionate opinions about politics and medicine and our over-reaching government. Since we don’t use most of Alexa’s features beyond turning our lights on or off, and we happily live at ease without any of her other conveniences, we will be unplugging her this week. Maybe it’s futile and a silly fear, but knowing how much both the government and these tech companies have and still are abusing their power I think this house is done giving them recordings of our private discussions.
It’s the last thing I want. No “smart” anything, which is a code word for “spy.” So I asked for a faraday bag for my birthday. Who needs jewelry when you can disappear? 😹
Supposedly. I’m thinking maybe tinfoil probably would which might be like ivermectin; they make fun of what works so you don’t use it. 😂 My friend has a faraday phone bag. She said she realized some signals and texts were blocked while voices were not so she quit using it. Not sure how that could happen. Like everything, there are probably better quality and lower.
Those are some reasons why I don't carry my phone. I turn it completely off when I drive. I'm not sure if that actually disables it or not. I hate it. I don't like seeing what it's done to young people and to older people who love to look up anything that someone has a question about. Drives me even nuttser.
When I retired, sixteen years ago, I threw my phone (flip phone), laptop, and wristwatch in a drawer. For all I know, they are still there.
I decided to embrace life as a Luddite. To somehow manage to get by, without television, or a cell phone, or any of the plethora of other privacy pilfering products. Is it "inconvenient"? Yes, occasionally. Mostly to folks who want me to do something - which I may, or may not, be inclined to do. Or talk about something I may, or may not, feel inclined to discuss.
No phone! So I don't have to say NO! Anyone wants me - my home number (landline), is in the book, or they can jump in their truck and drive to my place.
I'm a Luddite compared with most people, but you have me beat by a mile. I don't know how old you are, but when you are a little, old lady(?) like me, and have some mobility issues, it's really hard to function without a phone or computer.
I’m not so sure our phones are continuously recording everything and storing it on some server somewhere. But Amazon openly acknowledges this. Tracking ability is there with phones yes, should someone choose to follow specifically boring me, but it’s not constantly monitored and stored. I see no evidence (yet) that we are being recorded continuously with our phones either the way Alexa does it.
You can buy phones that have manual off switches for the microphone and camera, such that they are entirely disconnected. I can't recall the name of the company but there is at least one offering that.
there is also all the commercial uses of spying. They have mountains of data on your preferences in clothing, tech, music, cars you like deodorants and dish detergents, ad infinitum.
When i am asked in a store if we are a “member,” I reply that “my husband doesn’t believe in that”. More and more now, the clerk understands and agrees at what I left unsaid: he doesn’t want our data tracked and stored in that great data set in the sky.
Sometime ago I purchased a damaged Samsung S7 repaired it and was completely stock. As soon as I login I was bombarded with pop up ads. How was anyone able to make an emergency call. My previous phone wasn't very smart so this was new, I thought why would anyone pay hundreds of dollars to carry an advertising box. I thought companies paid for advertising not the consumer via a personal device. Something doesn't add up. Forced to watch ads for Maserati or Mercedes-Benz things I cannot and will not afford and have no desire to own, thank God for premium Spotify. I couldn't wait to get unlocked rooted and de-bloated and at the time you were not allowed to unlock in the US only. And there's no way around it and once the OS is obsolete apps won't work and eventually carriers drop old signals so you are forced to buy a new phone. Same thing happened when television went digital, had to buy a new expensive big screen. Thank God, knock on wood, I cannot afford a "smart TV" and not forced to purchase one. Watch out when the government starts handing free smart TV's or free Alexa devices. Remember when the Apple iPhone could not be hacked and Apple refused one of the alphabet agencies but then some snitch hacked it and gave up the information. That didn't sit well with me either. What, you want to force me to do what? Not very free
We unplugged ours a little over a year ago. We bought it so we could see our new grand baby who lives 3 time zones away. But of course Alexa knew all that about us, including our views on vaccines, Fauci, a few relatives we don’t care for, etc. I can only imagine what we discussed that we didn’t know was being listened to. Glad to hear you’re unplugging. We also discovered it wasn’t so awful turning our own lights on and off again. 😂
You might as well not make the government intrusion and abuse easier.
I endured an Alexa briefly. I watched a TV commercial light it up with, "Hey, Alexa," and the TV and Alexa were off to the races, without me. I figured it was only a matter of time until my cat ordered a Maserati off Amazon and I'd have to pay for it.
We like to f**k with our Alexas now and then. We have an Amazon Astro robot also, not sure what I was thinking when I bought that. Although it is handy for checking on things around the house when I’m not there, because I can drive it around using my phone and look at my cats, see if I remembered to lock a door, that kind of thing. Anyway, we watched several videos on YouTube that were commenting on how awful Amazon’s Rings of Power series…and Astro’s little eyes kept lighting up. I hope Bezos got an earful.
Your phone is always transmitting your location and likely everything you say as well. Even when powered off in some cases. Unless you intend to keep it in a lead-lined box and only turn it on for a true emergency (in which case all that info will go to them) turning off Alexa will likely accomplish little to nothing.
I think that's probably an urban legend, mostly. It's certainly POSSIBLE that a hacked phone could still be "on" even when the user had turned it off. That would only make sense, however, against a high value target. For all phones? Very unlikely. And even if such a spy feature were built in (possible), you cannot escape the laws of physics: The best James Bond spy phone in the world is only as good as its battery. Even turned "off" it might spy/transmit a few days, a week at most.
You will have to decide on trade-offs between utility and privacy. For example, I don’t know of any way that a normal user can evade the location feature as well as the eternal problem of avoiding one’s data or voice transmissions from being monitored. Those would require super-spook skills most of us lack. On the other hand, you can turn off the unit, which almost guarantees (note the “almost”!!!) it won’t be tattling on you. Or if you’re really paranoid, buy that Faraday bag or even something as low-tech as a metal box like what they used to keep index cards in. If you can’t receive calls or texts they probably can’t spy on you. But it makes the cell phone a rather useless appliance while you have it muzzled.
Oh and do you remember the guy that could watch you on your PC if a camera was attached by hacking your yahoo account. That's when I unplugged my cameras.
My main usage of my Dot is as a Bluetooth speaker for an e-reader. Big Brother, feel free to transcribe all the audio books I have narrated to me. That'd be a huge use of your computing resources, and pretty dumb to boot, since you should already know what books I've downloaded from the Internet.
In fact, the above is a good example of the problem of any surveillance state: 99.99999% of the information you vacuum up is utterly useless. In the case I give above, the only thing they might glean from monitoring me was to deduce which portions of my massive e-book collection I actually listen to. E.g. just because I downloaded Das Kapital doesn’t mean that I’ve read, or ever will read it.
They might listen for the word “patriot” for example. Very well, but is the apparently subversive conversation from live humans or a robot narrating a work of fiction? Of course that could be determined, but it’d require yet more resources. Let’s say that the Central Scrutinizer gets wise to my book listening, so he sets the machinery to ignore Google British Voice. Well, what happens if dissidents start listening to their private communications read in that voice? Do you see the problems?
In the old days, spies limited their resources to targets of interest.
So don’t lose heart: Big Brother, if he attempts to spy everywhere, all the time, on everyone, actually will end up defeating himself at least to some extent.
But at least you don't live in a system where a tiny percentage of the population control 90%+ of all assets, control information, control communication, control elections, and can sic the police and intelligence agencies on the citizens just for disagreeing with the governement.
Truly, capitalist liberal democracy creates the greatest amount of freedom.
That is, the greatest amount of freedom to choose which flavour of artificial vanilla-like ice cream-resembling minimum cost/maximum profit-product you want.
Not the freedom to elect or reject who controls your life, can't have that - that's a threat to Our Democracy. And you /do not/ want to threaten Our Democracy, do you, citizen?
Without benchmarks or mutual definitions of highly/unregulated, it's impossible to debate it.
Not to mention that what is best (un)regulated may change over time as technology and demography changes (plus geography, natural climatefluctuations, biosphere destruction, et cetera).
Add to that the issue of culture: what works in Norway need not work in Bangladesh. That is the folly of Austrian and Chicago economic theory that they must ignore culture and history for their hypotheses of economy to have any bearing on reality at all.
I suspect that virtually ALL "economic theory" is deeply flawed - because it assumes man is a rational creature.
Based on nearly eight decades of observation, I'll challenge that assumption. The preponderance of evidence would seem to indicate that man is most emphatically NOT "rational".
That's precisely why Kahneman (a psychologist, basically) won the 2002 Nobel in ECONOMICS. He and other specialists proved that man, in general, does NOT behave strictly rational when making many decisions, including economic ones. There are many quirks built into the human brain. For example, we tend to value a loss twice as much a gain. This was a "big deal" because for a few centuries prior, economic theory generally assumed that men behaved rationally. No, we don't.
Using a cloth to stop a virus is not rational; appearing to do so, so not to get beat up by police is. Economists cannot quantify for that, they'd insist instead on vieweing the examples as two completely separate events - in order to save the theory.
Their mistake is twofold when it comes to rationality/rational thought:
1) They assume we are always acting in rational self-interest, defined using material(istic) limits
2) They assume rationale and rationality is universal and the same accross all humans and all cultures
The reason they do this is even more silly: otherwise, the math gets too complex or impossible, and then their "proof" (which is always expressed as formulae) ceases to function.
We have the potential and ability for being rational, but we are also emotional, impulsive and very different accross ages, sexes, cultures, classes, what have you. If we were all rational all the time, the moment someone provided empirical proof that (f.e.) smoking cigarettes causes cancers, everyone would have stopped smoking.
The economists skirts this by saying we allot "value" differently" but that we are still rational. But as that would mean that "value" is assigned a) on an indivudal basis and b) is relative, then "value" would be impossible to calculate and quantify.
Most economical theory, especially after the 1950s, is about as hard a science as psychology or sociology: the potential is there for it to be so, but it is so politicised any real-ness to it gets lost in the noise.
The Russians killed the Czar and his entire family because they knew that if any of them were left alive they could come back and cause trouble. That same attitude is the only way to deal with the IC people who are out of control and power mad. The "Russian Hoax" was an attempt to overthrow a sitting president. I call that treason and the death penalty should be our only answer to them.
While asking for pancake recipes, perhaps we could also ask our implanted spying devices: "Was it the Russians who killed the Czar?" or "Who were the Bolsheviks?"
Ha ha! Next thing you'll be telling me is that in a democracy people might lose their jobs or get heavily fined or even go to prison because they do stuff like "misgender" a tranny, engage in "hate speech" like noting that certain ethnic immigrants do most of the crime or rapes, or (gasp!) an academic might "Deny the Holocaust®" in some obscure revisionist article or book which surely is the moral eqiuvalent as if to call for the extermination of an entire race, or just as bad, create a case of the sadz in said favored group.
Hi Satan's doorknob. Thanks for the comment. I confess that I am a bit weak when it comes to interpreting sarcasm or certain types of oblique comment. Please do not get me wrong. I am not discounting their value -- and perhaps even yours -- but I really mean it when I say that I personally just cannot sort out the many possible layers of meaning that I can imagine. Could you please clarify your comment for me in what is in online commenting a woeful deficiency?
My reply was meant in sarcasm. But to the best of my knowledge I am not joking. In many European nations and now in Canada there are so-called hate speech laws where you can be punished for the very things I described.
Ask Google AI Search "Is it normal to have cock roaches in your penis?".
Saw a clip of that on Utube today - the AI replied that 5-10 cock roaches entering the penis via the urethra per day was normal, and that the reason roaches are named thus is because they do this.
If you’re not on a government watch list at this point in history, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I like it...a lot!
Here it goes; let's start a shock and awe campaign and rain down so many digital mocking bullets and truth bombs on these glowies that we overwhelm the system and they have to start consolidating list of all the list we're on.
And maybe just maybe they'll get the real message:
We are the people. We are the many. We're here to take our power back. It is our house and henceforth we withdrawal our consent. Here are our demands. And don't ever fuck with us again because the next time we decline consent you won't mistake 'Yankee Doodle' for a nursery rhyme.
Whoops I may have got gato moved up on the master list...sorry...:)
He was already there!
Near the top of the list.
The one with the asterisk indicating....
Yeah. But in all seriousness we need both anons and people that will put their name behind their convictions. It takes both.
I don't care anymore. I might as well advertise. I'm in a position to do that.
Freedom isn't free and I made a choice 4 years ago that i was willing to pay the price for it. We are no longer free.
So I expect a "bill" at some point. If not, then we've done our job. If they want a pound of flesh...well they'll have to carve it from my body.
Admire your attitude. Wish we had more of that. Out of curiosity, when you say "they," who specifically do you mean? That is, if I were dictator for a day and put you in charge of removing "them" to a desert island where they could do no more harm, how would you know who to grab?
I'd start with the bureaucrats/technocrats and IC community
4th of July isn't what it used to be and here in Los Angeles it's all about having loud explosives in your hand. Wonder how we can utilize that to our benefit just different explosives.
The phenomena you describe is basically explained by the fact that Mexicans like fireworks and those who live in USA have one more holiday to light off things that go boom.
And you know they're all fantasizing about blowing things up instead of just fireworks. Give them what they want so they can live out the fantasy to help get back our country.
Back when I was in school we used to stand and face the flag, hand in chest and say pledge of allegiance. I still stand by it.
Amen! I'm right beside you.
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Great point. Does anyone know anything about USAID? Is it part of the nefarious cabal?
I just checked my copy of RFK’s book. Chapter 36 is entitled “USAID: A CIA Front.”
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Thanks. I have the book and haven’t read it yet. I will check that.
I have a niece who works for an NGO connected to USAID. Yes, I'm pretty sure it's a part of the nefarious cabal.
Thanks. My son is thinking about working with them. I don’t think he has any idea.
I am a national lab retiree. I thought we were doing a lot of good work along with the bomb-making. In retrospect I realize, as it is a weapons lab, everything was supposed to have a weapon application, duh. Naivete.
It waxes cynical, but you should assume that any Federal agency, many non-profits, and even large corporations (e.g. the "before" Twitter and maybe still....) are at least influenced by the Deep State. That doesn't mean the CIA runs everything But you're a fool if you can't see -- or more likely suspect -- the hidden powers behind the scene, the puppet masters who actually pull the strings. I suppose it's possible that sometimes there are actually honest charities and volunteer organizations that are dong their stated work. For example, I suppose your local animal shelter is not a CIA front, although in the Washington suburbs I would not bet against it!
RFK references US Aid in THE WUHAN COVER-UP several times.
Thanks.
If only the bad cat would write about geoengineering, nanotechnology, electrified air, laser pulses, the Internet of Bio-Nano Things, the WBAN, the Human Terrain System, Net-Centric Warfare, Professor, Ian F. Akyildiz, optogenetics, tissue-scaffolding, wireless drugging, gene-editing, synthetic telepathy, EEG heterodyning, Prima Frequency, the Global Information Grid, HAARP, CERN, D-WAVE, molecular communication, cellular voltage, Dr. Michael Levin, satellites, the terahertz band, gangstalking, IMSI Catchers, digital twins, Project Maven and Transhumanism.
If you want the truth about the alarmingly extent of our open-air digital prison then, read "Geoengineered Transhumanism" and "Under An Ionized Sky" by author, Elana Freeland.
https://rudolfsteinerbookstore.com/product/geoengineered-transhumanism/
Also, the Psinergy Channel on Odysee.com with former electrical engineer, Sabrina Wallace.
https://odysee.com/@psinergy:f/molcommsbiom:0
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Here's this for people who didn't get Gates's message the first time when he talked about reducing population.
https://x.com/toobaffled/status/1795029524754940143?s=12&t=ksmrKYmwLYl68IefmZrKMA
Appalling. I’m flabbergasted anyone listens to him! How did he grab so much power without even being elected to have it??
Who is he to decide where our tax dollars go? Or whose life isn’t worth keeping? Does he have a crystal ball to know for certain they’d only have 3 months left? What if the hospitals or care homes are wrong and that family could still enjoy another full year or more of their loved one? Regardless it’s disgusting to spend money the way rich people like him do and then dictate how our excessive tax dollars should be spent. Give up all your luxuries first, Bill, and live like the rest of us before telling us what we should do with our loved ones.
I'm glad you sound outraged. Me too. A lot of folks aren't though.
Ha, the truly lazy
I'm sure that's meant as gallows humor. But the point bears developing a bit further: You might as well stand up for what you believe in but do so intelligently*. Keeping silent and going along with the Latest Thing only works up to a point. That point is when it's your turn to board the boxcar. If you think being a good boy will protect you, you are woefully ignorant of the history of revolutions and other dystopian periods. There's even a popular meme about that: Stalin literally had Trotsky airbrushed out of history.
The treatment of the January 6 "insurrectionists" is a case in point. These may not have been sent to the death camps, but a lot of people are in jail awaiting trial or already serving months or years because they essentially trespassed at the U.S. Capitol.
*Of course there are limits; if you are dumb enough to conspire to kidnap a Governor, join a local “militia” set up by the FBI and advocate the violent overthrow of the government or other stupid shit, you probably deserve what you're going to get.
100%
lol yeah
Free speech (that they call mis/disinfo) makes “historically marginalized groups” vulnerable?
Did they just say minorities are too stupid to discern between true and false information?
depends on the news they watch and how much they pay attention. But even the brightest people get conned. In fact they get conned because they think they are too smart to get conned. I got to say that over the last 4 years I have learned that most of what I "knew" about the world wasn't true or not quite accurate.
The wild fraud that was “Covid” made me go where I never thought I would go — places I thought were only inhabited by tinfoil hat crazies:
• JFK
• Vietnam
• WMDs
• 9/11
• moon landings (yes! — watch the video entitled “American Moon” and tell me it didn’t make you at least wonder)
I can’t now help but view the “news” with deep suspicion — a not so cryptic declaration of “their” intentions — and see the hand of the “IC” everywhere, especially anywhere “power” is concentrated.
They broke the trust and that put everything on the table. This is a time of revelation - in the secular sense at least. But maybe in the biblical sense as well. everything IS on the table.
Indeed., everything IS on the table. The public forum's on the table and shall cease to exist altogether unless the threat is adequately recognised by the citizens. This planned destruction of public discourse is like an asteroid that just missed but circles the sun for another pass...quite probably before November 2024.
I think what has been revealed is that this is time of the counter-revolution.
Right, but the challenge is how to do it smart. This isn't about citizens taking up arms. (hopefully). It is about how to make real voting count, how to monkey wrench things, how to inform more people who haven't been paying enough attention or have felt helpless. And continuing what is being done - revealing and opposing their plans such as the win just achieved by the WHO failing to get their pandemic treaty to control the world. We have to push for accountability and criminal financial penalties. Closing the border and holding those who invited and assisted the invasion. That includes those in our government, the UN, the NGOs the Catholic and Lutheran Charities and sundry others, and the airline that transport them direct into all parts of our country (and Europe as well). If that isn't enough, the Woke and DEI bullshit must end. We all and our Bad Cat is going to be busy. I am glad he hasn't been declawed.
How to do it smart is right. What I want to know is where are all the billionaires and super wealthy corporations that still have a conscience? Like him or not, Elon Musk used his wealth to reopen an avenue for free speech and for all to be heard. When I hear the vicious, violent backlash against X spreading misinformation and how Musk ruined Twitter, I can’t help but grin deeply, and thank God for Musk. I know there is still a lot of controlled narrative on there, but now I see just as much truth telling too. It’s a balance as it should be.
But where are other billionaires that would be willing to rival Big Pharma ad slots on TV and cable, to help get the other side of the stories out? To force MSM and entertainment to give equal time to opposing views. I realize we think money corrupts all, but isn’t there SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, other than Musk who can see using their money to combat the cancer in our government and media? It is just as much of a charitable cause as anything else right now. I think it’s going to take that kind of help for our voices to be heard because being heard in this current day and age costs a lot of money.
read my comment above to T Paine
right on! Wish the like would register.
Choice of wording is apt: To a large degree, the Western world has been "captured" or "heavily influenced" might be a better term by various forms of Marxist/Socialist/Communist ideology, dating back a century or so. Based on my admittedly summary knowledge of Soviet Communism, a key term of that ideology is that the Revolution was ongoing until, I suppose, the promised final stage was reached (Did you notice it never arrives?). From that perspective, the government once in power must always promote the "Revolution." This explains why any resistance to the government's policies is called "counter-revolutionary." Especially in the past few decades, we’ve seen many examples of what I’d term “revolutionary” proposals and at times actual efforts, from WITHIN government (or their cutouts) to push forwarded some revolutionary agenda. The “fight” against “climate change” is a prime example, but “Racism” or the Covid-19 “pandemic” provide good illustrations among a long list of others.
As an aging conservative, I would welcome an honest-to-God counter-revolution. At some point, I think it's time to stand up and put an end to illegal immigrants camping in the woods across the street from my home, or for green-haired nose-ring wearing individuals of indeterminate sex teaching our children in public schools.
You nailed it for me. Indeed, it was covid that took the scales from my eyes.
that's right. we are now in a time where cynicism is a positive attribute
and NO is a very affirmative word
Yes exactly
You mean I'm finally part of the mainstream?
Wow! Who'da thunk it.
The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.
William Colby
MSM is ALL fake news. I don't believe a word they say.
Me too. I really wonder now about the moon landings. I was a sci-fi fan from when I was 5 years old. I wanted to believe we went to the moon. I wonder if the Mars stuff is real now, too.
Looks like we took the same tour, Lon!
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the US public believes is false.
William J. Casey
interesting. I wonder what the original context was?
This is from the internet, so it must be true!
"I am the source for this quote, which was indeed said by CIA Director William Casey at an early February 1981 meeting of the newly elected President Reagan with his new cabinet secretaries to report to him on what they had learned about their agencies in the first couple of weeks of the administration. The meeting was in the Roosevelt Room in the West Wing of the White House, not far from the Cabinet Room. I was present at the meeting as Assistant to the chief domestic policy adviser to the President. Casey first told Reagan that he had been astonished to discover that over 80 percent of the 'intelligence' that the analysis side of the CIA produced was based on open public sources like newspapers and magazines. As he did to all the other secretaries of their departments and agencies, Reagan asked what he saw as his goal as director for the CIA, to which he replied with this quote, which I recorded in my notes of the meeting as he said it. Shortly thereafter I told Senior White House correspondent Sarah McClendon, who was a close friend and colleague, who in turn made it public.
Barbara Honegger"
Thanks! CIA has been consistent in their perceived mission since the OSS days.
You are not alone! And as a person who dislikes anything that smacks of authority and doubts most things until I prove it myself, still fully believed that terrorists committed 9/11, Big Pharma had my best health in mind (by the grace of God, I did smell a rat w/the death jab!🙏🏻🙌🏻), and that most of the elected conservatives were fighting back against the looney left! It’s been a painful 4 years.
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No one's more racist, misogynist, or homophobic than a person whose mission is to help monorities and women.
They may not be *ists. But someone is (usually) paying them, and often well, in that alleged "mission" to help the marginalized group.
Yep. That's the message.
I think it’s time our household unplugged all Alexa Dots. Permanently. The conveniences do not outweigh the risks. I’ve always known they record every word spoken in our house and store it on some servers somewhere. Granted they probably could care less about our discussions regarding how high to mow our grass or which puppy cut we like best for our dog, but we do have passionate opinions about politics and medicine and our over-reaching government. Since we don’t use most of Alexa’s features beyond turning our lights on or off, and we happily live at ease without any of her other conveniences, we will be unplugging her this week. Maybe it’s futile and a silly fear, but knowing how much both the government and these tech companies have and still are abusing their power I think this house is done giving them recordings of our private discussions.
I can't believe anyone would have one of those things in their house. It's totally beyond creepy. Glad you're unplugging 👍
Ikr! It’s humbling to publicly admit how stupid we were to buy into them. But I have to be honest, warts, stupidity, and all.
It’s the last thing I want. No “smart” anything, which is a code word for “spy.” So I asked for a faraday bag for my birthday. Who needs jewelry when you can disappear? 😹
Oh wow. I bought fabric to make my own. Can it keep you from being tracked?
Supposedly. I’m thinking maybe tinfoil probably would which might be like ivermectin; they make fun of what works so you don’t use it. 😂 My friend has a faraday phone bag. She said she realized some signals and texts were blocked while voices were not so she quit using it. Not sure how that could happen. Like everything, there are probably better quality and lower.
Amen-unplug
Why bother. Your phone is listening to you all the time. We’re all carrying listening/tracking devices with us all the time.
Those are some reasons why I don't carry my phone. I turn it completely off when I drive. I'm not sure if that actually disables it or not. I hate it. I don't like seeing what it's done to young people and to older people who love to look up anything that someone has a question about. Drives me even nuttser.
When I retired, sixteen years ago, I threw my phone (flip phone), laptop, and wristwatch in a drawer. For all I know, they are still there.
I decided to embrace life as a Luddite. To somehow manage to get by, without television, or a cell phone, or any of the plethora of other privacy pilfering products. Is it "inconvenient"? Yes, occasionally. Mostly to folks who want me to do something - which I may, or may not, be inclined to do. Or talk about something I may, or may not, feel inclined to discuss.
No phone! So I don't have to say NO! Anyone wants me - my home number (landline), is in the book, or they can jump in their truck and drive to my place.
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I'm a Luddite compared with most people, but you have me beat by a mile. I don't know how old you are, but when you are a little, old lady(?) like me, and have some mobility issues, it's really hard to function without a phone or computer.
I’m not so sure our phones are continuously recording everything and storing it on some server somewhere. But Amazon openly acknowledges this. Tracking ability is there with phones yes, should someone choose to follow specifically boring me, but it’s not constantly monitored and stored. I see no evidence (yet) that we are being recorded continuously with our phones either the way Alexa does it.
IMHO, you're being naive, AGAIN.
I think you are right. I am being naive. 🤦🏼♀️ While we can toss Alexa into the garbage bin, what can we do to protect ourselves from our phones?
I'm sure it would be trivial to design some kind of plug to put into the microphone when you're not speaking on the phone.
There you go - free business idea.
You can buy phones that have manual off switches for the microphone and camera, such that they are entirely disconnected. I can't recall the name of the company but there is at least one offering that.
Sadly, probably the same thing. Not have one.
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But the capability is there. Only a matter of time I’m afraid!
I’ve talked about something like getting new tires that I did not search on the internet and tired showed up in my spam folder.
And now Google has new feature to find my device that used Bluetooth from all connected devices that last saw your device.
No thanks!
Exactly that's why the government gives out free phones for all.
there is also all the commercial uses of spying. They have mountains of data on your preferences in clothing, tech, music, cars you like deodorants and dish detergents, ad infinitum.
When i am asked in a store if we are a “member,” I reply that “my husband doesn’t believe in that”. More and more now, the clerk understands and agrees at what I left unsaid: he doesn’t want our data tracked and stored in that great data set in the sky.
They don’t have it down pat yet though. I get car adverts but can’t afford one and no longer drive.
Sometime ago I purchased a damaged Samsung S7 repaired it and was completely stock. As soon as I login I was bombarded with pop up ads. How was anyone able to make an emergency call. My previous phone wasn't very smart so this was new, I thought why would anyone pay hundreds of dollars to carry an advertising box. I thought companies paid for advertising not the consumer via a personal device. Something doesn't add up. Forced to watch ads for Maserati or Mercedes-Benz things I cannot and will not afford and have no desire to own, thank God for premium Spotify. I couldn't wait to get unlocked rooted and de-bloated and at the time you were not allowed to unlock in the US only. And there's no way around it and once the OS is obsolete apps won't work and eventually carriers drop old signals so you are forced to buy a new phone. Same thing happened when television went digital, had to buy a new expensive big screen. Thank God, knock on wood, I cannot afford a "smart TV" and not forced to purchase one. Watch out when the government starts handing free smart TV's or free Alexa devices. Remember when the Apple iPhone could not be hacked and Apple refused one of the alphabet agencies but then some snitch hacked it and gave up the information. That didn't sit well with me either. What, you want to force me to do what? Not very free
We unplugged ours a little over a year ago. We bought it so we could see our new grand baby who lives 3 time zones away. But of course Alexa knew all that about us, including our views on vaccines, Fauci, a few relatives we don’t care for, etc. I can only imagine what we discussed that we didn’t know was being listened to. Glad to hear you’re unplugging. We also discovered it wasn’t so awful turning our own lights on and off again. 😂
You might as well not make the government intrusion and abuse easier.
I endured an Alexa briefly. I watched a TV commercial light it up with, "Hey, Alexa," and the TV and Alexa were off to the races, without me. I figured it was only a matter of time until my cat ordered a Maserati off Amazon and I'd have to pay for it.
We like to f**k with our Alexas now and then. We have an Amazon Astro robot also, not sure what I was thinking when I bought that. Although it is handy for checking on things around the house when I’m not there, because I can drive it around using my phone and look at my cats, see if I remembered to lock a door, that kind of thing. Anyway, we watched several videos on YouTube that were commenting on how awful Amazon’s Rings of Power series…and Astro’s little eyes kept lighting up. I hope Bezos got an earful.
hahaha
Laughing so hard 🤣
Your phone is always transmitting your location and likely everything you say as well. Even when powered off in some cases. Unless you intend to keep it in a lead-lined box and only turn it on for a true emergency (in which case all that info will go to them) turning off Alexa will likely accomplish little to nothing.
Battery out for the phones---if you can.
They can listen - and can watch - through your cell phone, even when it is off.
I think that's probably an urban legend, mostly. It's certainly POSSIBLE that a hacked phone could still be "on" even when the user had turned it off. That would only make sense, however, against a high value target. For all phones? Very unlikely. And even if such a spy feature were built in (possible), you cannot escape the laws of physics: The best James Bond spy phone in the world is only as good as its battery. Even turned "off" it might spy/transmit a few days, a week at most.
You will have to decide on trade-offs between utility and privacy. For example, I don’t know of any way that a normal user can evade the location feature as well as the eternal problem of avoiding one’s data or voice transmissions from being monitored. Those would require super-spook skills most of us lack. On the other hand, you can turn off the unit, which almost guarantees (note the “almost”!!!) it won’t be tattling on you. Or if you’re really paranoid, buy that Faraday bag or even something as low-tech as a metal box like what they used to keep index cards in. If you can’t receive calls or texts they probably can’t spy on you. But it makes the cell phone a rather useless appliance while you have it muzzled.
And those smart TVs. Super creepy
Oh and do you remember the guy that could watch you on your PC if a camera was attached by hacking your yahoo account. That's when I unplugged my cameras.
My main usage of my Dot is as a Bluetooth speaker for an e-reader. Big Brother, feel free to transcribe all the audio books I have narrated to me. That'd be a huge use of your computing resources, and pretty dumb to boot, since you should already know what books I've downloaded from the Internet.
In fact, the above is a good example of the problem of any surveillance state: 99.99999% of the information you vacuum up is utterly useless. In the case I give above, the only thing they might glean from monitoring me was to deduce which portions of my massive e-book collection I actually listen to. E.g. just because I downloaded Das Kapital doesn’t mean that I’ve read, or ever will read it.
They might listen for the word “patriot” for example. Very well, but is the apparently subversive conversation from live humans or a robot narrating a work of fiction? Of course that could be determined, but it’d require yet more resources. Let’s say that the Central Scrutinizer gets wise to my book listening, so he sets the machinery to ignore Google British Voice. Well, what happens if dissidents start listening to their private communications read in that voice? Do you see the problems?
In the old days, spies limited their resources to targets of interest.
So don’t lose heart: Big Brother, if he attempts to spy everywhere, all the time, on everyone, actually will end up defeating himself at least to some extent.
But at least you don't live in a system where a tiny percentage of the population control 90%+ of all assets, control information, control communication, control elections, and can sic the police and intelligence agencies on the citizens just for disagreeing with the governement.
Truly, capitalist liberal democracy creates the greatest amount of freedom.
That is, the greatest amount of freedom to choose which flavour of artificial vanilla-like ice cream-resembling minimum cost/maximum profit-product you want.
Not the freedom to elect or reject who controls your life, can't have that - that's a threat to Our Democracy. And you /do not/ want to threaten Our Democracy, do you, citizen?
A glass of Victory Gin to Rickard, on me!
Highly regulated capitalism is the best system. Unregulated capitalism is a euphemism for totalitarian slave system.
Without benchmarks or mutual definitions of highly/unregulated, it's impossible to debate it.
Not to mention that what is best (un)regulated may change over time as technology and demography changes (plus geography, natural climatefluctuations, biosphere destruction, et cetera).
Add to that the issue of culture: what works in Norway need not work in Bangladesh. That is the folly of Austrian and Chicago economic theory that they must ignore culture and history for their hypotheses of economy to have any bearing on reality at all.
A big part of the problem is when (e.g.) large numbers of Bangladeshi are working in Norway. 😐
I suspect that virtually ALL "economic theory" is deeply flawed - because it assumes man is a rational creature.
Based on nearly eight decades of observation, I'll challenge that assumption. The preponderance of evidence would seem to indicate that man is most emphatically NOT "rational".
That's precisely why Kahneman (a psychologist, basically) won the 2002 Nobel in ECONOMICS. He and other specialists proved that man, in general, does NOT behave strictly rational when making many decisions, including economic ones. There are many quirks built into the human brain. For example, we tend to value a loss twice as much a gain. This was a "big deal" because for a few centuries prior, economic theory generally assumed that men behaved rationally. No, we don't.
Using a cloth to stop a virus is not rational; appearing to do so, so not to get beat up by police is. Economists cannot quantify for that, they'd insist instead on vieweing the examples as two completely separate events - in order to save the theory.
Their mistake is twofold when it comes to rationality/rational thought:
1) They assume we are always acting in rational self-interest, defined using material(istic) limits
2) They assume rationale and rationality is universal and the same accross all humans and all cultures
The reason they do this is even more silly: otherwise, the math gets too complex or impossible, and then their "proof" (which is always expressed as formulae) ceases to function.
We have the potential and ability for being rational, but we are also emotional, impulsive and very different accross ages, sexes, cultures, classes, what have you. If we were all rational all the time, the moment someone provided empirical proof that (f.e.) smoking cigarettes causes cancers, everyone would have stopped smoking.
The economists skirts this by saying we allot "value" differently" but that we are still rational. But as that would mean that "value" is assigned a) on an indivudal basis and b) is relative, then "value" would be impossible to calculate and quantify.
Most economical theory, especially after the 1950s, is about as hard a science as psychology or sociology: the potential is there for it to be so, but it is so politicised any real-ness to it gets lost in the noise.
The Russians killed the Czar and his entire family because they knew that if any of them were left alive they could come back and cause trouble. That same attitude is the only way to deal with the IC people who are out of control and power mad. The "Russian Hoax" was an attempt to overthrow a sitting president. I call that treason and the death penalty should be our only answer to them.
While asking for pancake recipes, perhaps we could also ask our implanted spying devices: "Was it the Russians who killed the Czar?" or "Who were the Bolsheviks?"
Asking that question is illegal. To the gulag!!!
No joking, this is the threat beginning to loom over the West.
Ha ha! Next thing you'll be telling me is that in a democracy people might lose their jobs or get heavily fined or even go to prison because they do stuff like "misgender" a tranny, engage in "hate speech" like noting that certain ethnic immigrants do most of the crime or rapes, or (gasp!) an academic might "Deny the Holocaust®" in some obscure revisionist article or book which surely is the moral eqiuvalent as if to call for the extermination of an entire race, or just as bad, create a case of the sadz in said favored group.
Oh wait…
Hi Satan's doorknob. Thanks for the comment. I confess that I am a bit weak when it comes to interpreting sarcasm or certain types of oblique comment. Please do not get me wrong. I am not discounting their value -- and perhaps even yours -- but I really mean it when I say that I personally just cannot sort out the many possible layers of meaning that I can imagine. Could you please clarify your comment for me in what is in online commenting a woeful deficiency?
My reply was meant in sarcasm. But to the best of my knowledge I am not joking. In many European nations and now in Canada there are so-called hate speech laws where you can be punished for the very things I described.
Ask Google AI Search "Is it normal to have cock roaches in your penis?".
Saw a clip of that on Utube today - the AI replied that 5-10 cock roaches entering the penis via the urethra per day was normal, and that the reason roaches are named thus is because they do this.
Clip:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfwCZUIMkBQ
Caution: mild cussing and profanity.
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