Yes they are clowns, but they think they’re gods and act accordingly. However, these hypocrites are so corrupt and full of 💩 on both sides of the aisle in the US and pond in the world. Hopefully, there are enough freedom lovers who will not comply. Man these people are loathesome…
These are the same people. I see evidence of them in every evil perpetrated in Europe and passed on to the USA. The “new world” made its choice to stick with the Empire’s methodology. When “competition is sin”--a phrase coined by the Rockfeller’s--there is “nothing new under the sun”, but more consumers to enslave into their monopolies.
That's the danger: stupid people believe anything said with authority. Like Obama, who was usually wrong, but never in doubt. I worried a lot less about him, much more about people who voted for him.
It's becoming increasingly clear why gun confiscation is a hot topic.
Collectively people are "made stupid" as Bonhoeffer says. They follow the consensus, by the collective, the experts, and feel secure in the not-thinking about it.
I have heard about Bonhoeffer and am interested in knowing more about people of that caliber. When our culture has been reduced to a bunch of zero’s, one much search out good character because to count on osmosis will be one’s downfall. Very sad.
Any possibilities for non-compliance is what they are striving to eliminate. Of course they also want to prevent the piano wire concertos and Ceaușescu events that may likely befall these "masters of the universe".
Have you noticed none of these a-hats have been befalled by Covid or the vax. I find that fascinating… Everyone I know in the US knows someone who died from Covid, the vax or has had issues post Covid or vax. Yet in DC at least, all is good in the neighborhood. Which makes one wonder how the digital currency will be handled? Our betters won’t be tracked…
Postal workers weren't forced to b.c. most are Black and The Establishment didn't need yet another "George Floyd" situation on their hands, i.e. the blood of many George Floyds felled by the experimental biowarfare weapon of mass deception. Or more race riots a la Rodney King and Watts.
My personal list is 26 and counting. Most eedjots who volunteered their only real possession-- their precious health, short and long-term-- took the "involuntary" (not) shots in order to get back to work.
To be sure, they didn't take the poison, and similarly they will not be constrained by this control. These individuals are in the club, and as you know, we aren't!!
He took hydroxychloroquin and other effective treatments (like monoclonal antibodies) so he recovered quickly. If those treatments had been available to everyone, Covid would not have been a big deal.
I am so tired of this world going backwards. Everything "decided and decreed" by the earthly overlords makes life harder, more unpleasant, cold and depressing. Less light, no heat, no driving, no convenience, no freedom, no joy. NOTHING BUT DRUDERGY. Socialism, fascism, communism and transhumanism is the goal. There is no free market.
Elon, isn’t what he tries to appear to his audience. Don’t get me wrong, we need any help available re: human desire to reason and speak, but there is more evidence to convince me ... Just use the discernment you have and need to trust any public figure--especially today.
Yes, I heard a lot about the mark of the beast and how you wouldn't be allowed to buy or sell. But what I did NOT hear was how do we work around this? Let's say your child was hungry and there was no food in the house, you go to the grocery store, you have money, but surprise, surprise, it's no good, you have to have this mark or you will not be able to purchase anything. What do you do at this point? What do you tell your children? Or anyone else who is dependent on you? Sorry, it sucks to be you, but I'm not taking the mark, you are just going to have to go without? Oh, but you see, we are all going to be raptured LONG before we get to that point, so don't worry, be happy, trust in Jesus . . .
I think if things ever get to that point we are going to have to learn from people who ALREADY know how to navigate the system without documentation, without much money, without credit or credit cards, insurance, Social Security, etc. Yes, I am talking about "Illegal Aliens" or if you prefer, "Undocumented Immigrants." These people know all about living under the radar. And yes, they pay the price. I was watching "El Norte" last night about a Guatemalan brother and sister who flee their village and make their way to the U.S. When the sister, Rosa, falls ill, she refuses to go to the doctor because she knows she is not in "the system" and it is not until she collapses at work that one of her coworkers (who is also an immigrant) takes her to the hospital. Here the two women are met with hostility and indifference until hours later a doctor examines Rosa and discovers she is seriously ill with a possibly contagious illness. Then, and only then, does the staff swing into action. Meanwhile her brother Enrique is being manipulated by a wealthy white woman who is working with the coyote who brought them to LA. She (the woman) wants Enrique to move to Chicago to work for her, but ONLY Enrique, "no family". There is an implied threat that if Enrique says no, things will not go well for him. It's a very powerful film about what it is like to live under those circumstances, not knowing who among your own people can be trusted and who cannot, yet at the same time being fully aware that "the system" is just as much against you here as it was back in the country you fled and that you have no friends in high places, only enemies who are totally indifferent to your needs. This, I think, is what it will be like for those who refuse to take the mark.
Maybe. But I think it will be more like the abolitionists underground railway.
Reality is, black market gonna black market. People will always find work arounds for the ridiculous grip of tyranny.
Find your nearest localist, make yourself useful, helpful and build your version of society. That way you get a say in the future, rather than being subject to the winds of change that are coming.🤗🤗
That may be so. But what gets me is I hear talk of the Mark of the Beast and how horrible it is to accept it, but what I do not hear from these same people is how to live in such a society. What kind of plan do they have in place? Now I am a weather geek and one of the You Tube weather channels I follow is Ryan Hall Y'All. Among his merchandise he has t-shirts with the Tornado Warning polygram that say "Don't Be Scared, Be Prepared." In other words, have a plan. But this is exactly what these MOB folks DON'T have. All right, if you believe that what the Book of Revelation says is an accurate picture of what is about to happen in OUR OWN TIME, don't you think that churches who believe this ought to have been laying down the foundation A LONG TIME AGO? I've actually asked some of these folks that--what are you going to do when little Johnny or Susie gets sick, and you can't get medicine without the Mark of the Beast. And they look at me like I am some kind of clueless idiot and start talking about the Rapture. That this will never happen to them or their families because Rapture. Because God will save them. Well, I think you know that I fall firmly in the "Don't Be Scared, Be Prepared" camp. I have no use for people who talk loose about the coming Mark of the Beast as if this is something inevitable, but yet have NO PLAN as to how to deal with it. And this was LONG before Covid, by the way. Those folks should have been leading the way with Covid resistance but no, they rolled over and played dead for our overlords, allowing them to shutter churches with hardly a peep.
Tam -What would be best is if small groups of people began to band together and begin to learn how to grow their own food, raise livestock etc… like the kibbutz in Israel. Try getting anyone interested is the task.
This does seem to be happening to a certain extent in some urban neighborhoods with community gardens. But, not everyone is up to the task. Or are in situations that they can do this. And it is more than just food we are talking about. Many, many, many people are dependent on at least one medication. I am very unusual in that I as a senior am not taking ANY drugs, and I am, while not in the best of shape, a lot better off in terms of physical ability than many of my senior peers.
Then there is the problem of where and how to acquire land. With many people, especially young people, being unable to afford houses, heavily saddled with debt, and earning just enough to keep them alive paycheck to paycheck, this sort of thing is sadly out of reach for many, even if they do pool their income and resources. This brings me to another point. From what I have heard of the kibbutz system in Israel, they are very collectivist in philosophy. While this might appeal to some people, I doubt that it would appeal to many on this forum! Everything belongs to the group, not the individual--even child-rearing was, at least at first, a community effort, individual parents had very little to do with raising their own children and very little say. Again, not something that would go over well with a lot of people here.
It's an interesting idea, but in practice it seems that groups that do band together to live communal lives have a tendency to turn authoritarian. They have to in order to ensure group cohesiveness. In the end you are simply trading one kind of dependency for another. You are not truly free.
I agree with we must prepare. I have all my money in a small credit union. That's it, no pension, no IRA, no inheritence, no income, no SS. I've been itching to get that money out somehow. But how and where to? People talk about CBDC, but don't talk about how to move your money now and where to to escape the lock down of your money that is probably one year away. WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR MONEY NOW PRE-LOCKDOWN?
Yes I agree with your hopeful sentiments. Visiting a Holocaust museum in Riga was eye opening for me. They had an exhibit on items recovered from some Siberian gulag. Ingenious, beautiful artifacts. The best of the human spirit manufactured from nothing in a place of pain and suffering. I try to regularly remind myself of that feeling I had during my visit .
That is absolutely a strong possibility of what the future may hold for those who want to be free. Living life on the edge and in a constant state of uncertainty sounds about right.
Au contraire: It was very easy to see how they'd do it: Get everyone hooked up to the internet and cell phones, and the "convenience" of cashless electronic banking. It's not over. "They" greatly underestimate the human Will.
It’s kind of long for a SS comment, but I’ll try to summarize it. There is coming a day when Jesus is going to take his followers out of the world and the devil will have 7 years to do his evil before God crushes him.
That 7 years is called the tribulation and one of the aspects is the devil will demand that people pledge themselves to him and take a ‘mark’ signifying that they are his. Those people can buy or sell during the tribulation period, but their souls are doomed for all eternity.
It’s going to be a terrible time of death and destruction, but I’m confident that I won’t suffer through it because I’ve given my heart and life to Jesus.
A skill strike, a work strike, a slow down, a purchase pause for a week, a trucker delivery halt for a week, the tools are truly endless to shut this down. You cannot be forced to comply and pretty much anything, yet you could put your 'tools down' and walk away from the game with ease. This is the death rattle of neoliberalism/neoliberal banking controls set to spinal tap '11'.
Like an “Atlas Shrugged” moment - “you asked for it brother…” screw these people.
Covid shows the tattletales and weaklings among us will jump right in with celebs and Hollywood talking about just how great it is…. We are all the last line of freedom - I’m willing to not comply.
Puts in mind a popular Hippie saying from the 60’s, “What if they started a war, and nobody came?”
I think the solution to much of what is coming lies in figuring out how to act upon that idea en masse. Doesn’t have to be all of us. Many are so caught up in the lies and delusions they’re incapable of not walking into the trap. But I do believe there’s enough of us to not participate that will cause the house of cards to fall.
It will really interesting to see what happens in the US. The true third rail will be screwing with peoples money and guns. And some point it’s going to get really ugly.
At least we can grow our own food, using biodynamic and regenerative techniques, and start our own local economies. I'm not convinced that these ppl are the "monolithic" lockstep hoarde their mouthpieces want you to completely believe. It came out on Meryl Nass's substack recently that very few ppl were behind the gagging of free speech on social media. A "round-uppable" number that would fit in any county jail, hah hah haaaaah!!!
I agree. But CBDC is just the start to all money lockdowns in all banks, credit unions and financial institutions. Just like CDC was the start to all covid me-too freakout lockdowns. Where do I put my money now - in my freezer, under the floorboards?
Turdeau and Slaveland provided a hint of how government control of money works under an "emergency" caused by peaceful protestors.
central banks are one step (supposedly) removed from government - but central bankers are just socialist enablers. they - like all politicians PRETEND to know what they are doing.
central banks globally had inflation targets of 2% (called "core CPI") that exclude food and energy prices - the area where 80% of the population are most sensitive too. monetary policy settings are supposed to be set for forecast conditions in 12-18 months time.
inflation is running at 8-10% because of governments spending like drunken sailors on useless C19 measures AND even more money on useless climate change goals plus punitive taxes on what should be cheap hydrocarbon energy.
None of this is possible UNLESS their currency has value, but they're destroying the value of their currency and, thus, their ability to rule. You see soldiers don't care about your theories/credentials/titles - they just shoot whomever they're paid to shoot. If you can't pay them (or you can't pay them w/ $ they trust & can control), then they'll just shoot you, and that's where this ends: at some point (perhaps soon), the soldiers realize that taking orders from people who control the $ is a lot less interesting than controlling the $ themselves. At which point, soft power is exposed as soft. How does Bill Gates keep his money when his bodyguards decide they'd rather kill him than protect him? HINT: he doesn't. In any fight between money & power, power wins UNLESS it gives up (usually because money bought it off). So, long and short, the rich are about to become much less rich or they're about to become dead. The US military will takeover in one form or another - either killing the rich & taking control or by taking their $. The WEF idiots are transient authorities at best. The military will be (if it isn't already) the real power because the guys w/ the guns ALWAYS beat all other forms of power when push comes to shove.
I fully expect General So-and-So to announce that he's now in charge at the White House, but if we don't have that tragedy, it'll be because general so-and-so doesn't need to make the announcement (he'll already be in control). I think the DEI absurdities will only make this process easier, because let's be honest: if general so-and-so started killing the DEI people everybody would celebrate, hide or FIGURE OUT how they can benefit from it. Nobody would resist because nobody cares (and those few principled people who do exist likely agree w/ so and so's ends if not his means). Few people risk their lives for their enemies, so there's no effective opposition to this.
We're about to see the iron fist, people. And the velvet glove people are gonna be gone. It's getting far more violent before the end - and violence favors the well-armed. Sorry, but I don't think the pacifistic safety first NYers are going to get to impoverish the well-armed South for much longer - expect that war/rift to erupt too.
I just don't see any good outcomes here because everyone is too short sighted to make the necessary sacrifices. Babylon fell, Rome fell, and Scarsdale will have its day - that's the unmistakeable lesson of history.
Currencies and anything else only have value because people have faith in it as a means of exchange or wealth. CBDCs will offer neither because they will be under central control. Crypto, gold, silver, cash, and every other tradeable asset will be banned from use.
They are idiots. But they are evil. Problem is, they pull the levers of power--everywhere--and won't hesitate to crush anyone who stands up to them (see J6, Trump, MAGA Americans, etc.).
Lacking self-awareness, bolstered by "fortified" elections, and supported by the vast number of "elites" and corporations, they are going to give it a "go." Do you see any way out of it that doesn't LARP the ending of "Lord of the Flies?"
Also, was that the real Borat? I would be surprised, since he has been revealed as anything but a "stick it to the man" Carlinesque figure these last 5 years.
BTC will not save you. If you still think it is out of reach of the authorities after what they did in Canada during the truckers protests, you haven't paid attention.
They froze exchange accounts. You may be able to keep your BTC safe in a cold wallet, but it can never leave there, at least not easily. Once you need to use it to actually buy something, it will be exposed to government control.
Bitcoin land will be nothing but Bitcoin changing hands. Few goods and services will be available without subjecting it to government control. All corporations and business will fall inline with what the leftist government wants. We've already seen how this goes. You better own real, tangible assets that other people need and want and that the government can't constitutionally outlaw and confiscate.
People who value freedom and integrity had better learn to be content with a lot less. Like skills, the ability (and willingness) to live simply is something they cannot confiscate.
Bitcoin is not a savior, true, but it's part of an overall strategy to up the chances of being able to obtain, provide, and trade goods at the base of Maslow's hierarchy of needs... shelter, water, food.
There are other critical parts to the strategy including real property and skills (for growing, building, and defending those assets).
For sure I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket, but I figure buying a little bitcoin now may save my ass later, if "nothing but Bitcoin changing hands" becomes how a lot of person-to-person business gets done (which it has in other countries with dodgy money).
And in that case it doesn't matter if Amazon won't take my bitcoin... I won't be sitting around planning my next frivolous Amazon purchase anyway, I'll be trying to secure food or fuel or materials from some local yokel much like myself. Having several tools at my disposal increases my chance of success.
Precisely. You totally break bitcoin decentralization if you let CoinBase or Binance (or FTX :) hold your bitcoin. You don't even own your bitcoin - they do, like a bank holding your money. You are just a creditor and your deposits are subject to governmental control.
If you hold your own wallet, once you convert $ to BTC, there is not a lot anyone can do to stop you holding and moving it, unless they get ahold of your private key.
They *can* sniff your pseudonomyzed trail on the blockchain, and they can intimidate businesses into refusing payments from your public key, but there are workarounds for those problems... It can be run through a mixmaster, converted to monero, or just be used natively as bitcoin to pay for goods and services. It's not gone.
On- and off-ramps aren't out of reach of the authorities, but BTC itself is. (Well, provided the authorities don't physically steal your private keys.)
The Canadian state thugs had *some* success stealing private keys and blocking off-ramps for BTC donations. But bitcoiners had some success too, and learned from the experience. The thugs maybe learned too, but who is smarter?
"BTC itself" is nothing but a digital signature. That's the problem. You can't do anything with it. You can't touch it, eat it, live in it, use it to build things, etc. You won't be able to buy the things you need to survive with it such as food, shelter, energy, transportation, medicine, medical care, etc. These are all industries completely captured by and beholden to the government now. It won't matter who is smarter. What will matter is who has control, including control of the police and military.
People will continue teeth gnashing about Voting Harder(tm) and "fighting back" until they are exhausted and demoralized as this debt-based financial system collapses - CBDC OR NOT.
Hopefully Bitcoin will become more and more apparent by that time, but with so much emotional vested interest against Bitcoin and Bitcoiners, this will be hard transition for many. Harder than trans people who take hormones and chop off their wee wee, in fact. But I digress...
Put it this way: If us Bitcoiners are wrong, the future is still going to be utterly dystopian and your money and purchasing power will always be debasing. There will probably be UBI as well, so unless you have literal millionS - RIGHT NOW, you will slowly get poorer and poorer.
In fact you'll only be marginally richer than us foolish bitcoiners. But considering how shallow people are, I guess that's enough for them to feel good about themselves.
If you are wrong on bitcoin of course, you lose out bigly, and even more teeth gnashing.
It's just the cycle of life, though, isn't it? All through history the lives of the ordinary have been made wretched by idiot kings and their idiot projects that sucked up all the resources--and then later generations swooned over the brilliance of their creations or strategies etc. etc. while busy building/entering into their own follies. And isn't what you urge here the same, really, as what impelled the rise of private banks--that eventually grew into the monster system we have now?
But yes, really ominous, Lagarde the Ludicrous talking about all of this and making cash illegal for transactions over a certain limit etc. etc.
A teeny quibble on analogies. We *do* have soup sandwiches and they're clever and delicious. We call 'em dumplings. They can scorch the mouth though...
some European countries already have a cash limit. Dad told me a while ago he wanted to pay something in cash and they refused to accept it. And even some bank transactions have to be split into smaller amounts. You cannot even do with your own hard earned money what you want
I'm thinking of a way to set up structures that will get participants that aren't quite red pilled. They promise convenience. How about fun and good company?
We need to make real things again. That is the true economy.
Prior to COVID I'd have never believed even the sheeple would fall for a government controlled electronic currency. Now it's more than obvious this is inevitable. There are those who optimistically believe that the looming financial and currency crisis caused by central banks and our central planning overlords will force a return to the gold standard, a gold or PM backed USD and/or Euro. This would in effect be moving toward more liberty, less tyranny. Those people are sadly wrong. The response to that crisis will be the same as the response to all crisis now, which will be a headlong plunge into ever greater government control. The CBDC will be the "solution" sold to clown world as financial salvation for the "working class" that will have the added benefit of ensuring the rich finally pay their "fair share." This is a fait accompli. The only question is when, not if.
In those nations where referendums were held re: joining the EG/EU, none such referendum contained the open-endedness of the EU's projects.
So, it is fuly possible at least in theory for almost any national governement to say "Nope. We only agreed to the terms and conditions which were in effect when we held a referendum. Want us to give up this much power and sovereignity to unelected technocrats of the french-german axis? We'll get back to you after another referendum."
Yes they are clowns, but they think they’re gods and act accordingly. However, these hypocrites are so corrupt and full of 💩 on both sides of the aisle in the US and pond in the world. Hopefully, there are enough freedom lovers who will not comply. Man these people are loathesome…
beware for the nutcases who take themselves seriously. they are the ones that shoot innocent people and harm everyone and everything in their way
I have been reading "Schindler's List" and the Nazis who ran the kamps are reminiscent of a whole lot of people we see on the left...
These are the same people. I see evidence of them in every evil perpetrated in Europe and passed on to the USA. The “new world” made its choice to stick with the Empire’s methodology. When “competition is sin”--a phrase coined by the Rockfeller’s--there is “nothing new under the sun”, but more consumers to enslave into their monopolies.
Worse yet, the vast majority of the population are taken in by them. If they are stupid, the masses must be even dumber.
They are - history shows it happens over and over again and here we are…
That's the danger: stupid people believe anything said with authority. Like Obama, who was usually wrong, but never in doubt. I worried a lot less about him, much more about people who voted for him.
It's becoming increasingly clear why gun confiscation is a hot topic.
I just read your comment again (open tab) “usually wrong, but never in doubtl. And got to say ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Collectively people are "made stupid" as Bonhoeffer says. They follow the consensus, by the collective, the experts, and feel secure in the not-thinking about it.
So true!!
I have heard about Bonhoeffer and am interested in knowing more about people of that caliber. When our culture has been reduced to a bunch of zero’s, one much search out good character because to count on osmosis will be one’s downfall. Very sad.
Any possibilities for non-compliance is what they are striving to eliminate. Of course they also want to prevent the piano wire concertos and Ceaușescu events that may likely befall these "masters of the universe".
Have you noticed none of these a-hats have been befalled by Covid or the vax. I find that fascinating… Everyone I know in the US knows someone who died from Covid, the vax or has had issues post Covid or vax. Yet in DC at least, all is good in the neighborhood. Which makes one wonder how the digital currency will be handled? Our betters won’t be tracked…
Congress nor judges were mandated to take it. Postal workers either. They need the fake mail in ballots coming in without incident.
Postal workers weren't forced to b.c. most are Black and The Establishment didn't need yet another "George Floyd" situation on their hands, i.e. the blood of many George Floyds felled by the experimental biowarfare weapon of mass deception. Or more race riots a la Rodney King and Watts.
Seems like they want all that
Some might. But it costs them. And you, too.
Albert Bourla had COVID. So did Faux-chi. "Brandon," too :-)
My personal list is 26 and counting. Most eedjots who volunteered their only real possession-- their precious health, short and long-term-- took the "involuntary" (not) shots in order to get back to work.
To be sure, they didn't take the poison, and similarly they will not be constrained by this control. These individuals are in the club, and as you know, we aren't!!
Trump had it. Just not enuf to do him in. Sad.
He took hydroxychloroquin and other effective treatments (like monoclonal antibodies) so he recovered quickly. If those treatments had been available to everyone, Covid would not have been a big deal.
it seems to be an inversion of the confederate states printing their own moneys.
i will barter shells and food before i submit to their cbdc.
The freedom lovers will be forced to comply.
El gato, you give us hope. Please keep pounding away at this. IT CANNOT be allowed.
I am TIRED already of being a slave. They just took away my lightbulbs.
Thisi is micromanaging at a ridiculous level.
What ever happened to let the market decide?
I am so tired of this world going backwards. Everything "decided and decreed" by the earthly overlords makes life harder, more unpleasant, cold and depressing. Less light, no heat, no driving, no convenience, no freedom, no joy. NOTHING BUT DRUDERGY. Socialism, fascism, communism and transhumanism is the goal. There is no free market.
Luckily for us in the EU, climate change was solved years ago by banning filament lightbulbs.
Only happy days ahead . . .
Eff LED's. They are not good for you, for your eyes, and they make evenings stark and dreary.
yep. Macular degeneration.
You'll look back on the loss of lightbulbs nostalgically when the neo-environmentalists are done with this whole charade.
Sad. We're doing what we can. As a 4 mo. old Substack, Elon didn't do us much good this week.
Elon, isn’t what he tries to appear to his audience. Don’t get me wrong, we need any help available re: human desire to reason and speak, but there is more evidence to convince me ... Just use the discernment you have and need to trust any public figure--especially today.
Obama took your lightbulbs. Those LEDs are really bad for our health.
I'm embarrassed but happy to say that I have been stockpiling incandescents for years. I don't want to go blind.
It’s coming and if you don’t take the mark of the beast, you won’t be allowed to buy or sell.
For decades, I couldn’t see how that prophesy would work. I see it clearly now.
Yes, I heard a lot about the mark of the beast and how you wouldn't be allowed to buy or sell. But what I did NOT hear was how do we work around this? Let's say your child was hungry and there was no food in the house, you go to the grocery store, you have money, but surprise, surprise, it's no good, you have to have this mark or you will not be able to purchase anything. What do you do at this point? What do you tell your children? Or anyone else who is dependent on you? Sorry, it sucks to be you, but I'm not taking the mark, you are just going to have to go without? Oh, but you see, we are all going to be raptured LONG before we get to that point, so don't worry, be happy, trust in Jesus . . .
I think if things ever get to that point we are going to have to learn from people who ALREADY know how to navigate the system without documentation, without much money, without credit or credit cards, insurance, Social Security, etc. Yes, I am talking about "Illegal Aliens" or if you prefer, "Undocumented Immigrants." These people know all about living under the radar. And yes, they pay the price. I was watching "El Norte" last night about a Guatemalan brother and sister who flee their village and make their way to the U.S. When the sister, Rosa, falls ill, she refuses to go to the doctor because she knows she is not in "the system" and it is not until she collapses at work that one of her coworkers (who is also an immigrant) takes her to the hospital. Here the two women are met with hostility and indifference until hours later a doctor examines Rosa and discovers she is seriously ill with a possibly contagious illness. Then, and only then, does the staff swing into action. Meanwhile her brother Enrique is being manipulated by a wealthy white woman who is working with the coyote who brought them to LA. She (the woman) wants Enrique to move to Chicago to work for her, but ONLY Enrique, "no family". There is an implied threat that if Enrique says no, things will not go well for him. It's a very powerful film about what it is like to live under those circumstances, not knowing who among your own people can be trusted and who cannot, yet at the same time being fully aware that "the system" is just as much against you here as it was back in the country you fled and that you have no friends in high places, only enemies who are totally indifferent to your needs. This, I think, is what it will be like for those who refuse to take the mark.
Maybe. But I think it will be more like the abolitionists underground railway.
Reality is, black market gonna black market. People will always find work arounds for the ridiculous grip of tyranny.
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That may be so. But what gets me is I hear talk of the Mark of the Beast and how horrible it is to accept it, but what I do not hear from these same people is how to live in such a society. What kind of plan do they have in place? Now I am a weather geek and one of the You Tube weather channels I follow is Ryan Hall Y'All. Among his merchandise he has t-shirts with the Tornado Warning polygram that say "Don't Be Scared, Be Prepared." In other words, have a plan. But this is exactly what these MOB folks DON'T have. All right, if you believe that what the Book of Revelation says is an accurate picture of what is about to happen in OUR OWN TIME, don't you think that churches who believe this ought to have been laying down the foundation A LONG TIME AGO? I've actually asked some of these folks that--what are you going to do when little Johnny or Susie gets sick, and you can't get medicine without the Mark of the Beast. And they look at me like I am some kind of clueless idiot and start talking about the Rapture. That this will never happen to them or their families because Rapture. Because God will save them. Well, I think you know that I fall firmly in the "Don't Be Scared, Be Prepared" camp. I have no use for people who talk loose about the coming Mark of the Beast as if this is something inevitable, but yet have NO PLAN as to how to deal with it. And this was LONG before Covid, by the way. Those folks should have been leading the way with Covid resistance but no, they rolled over and played dead for our overlords, allowing them to shutter churches with hardly a peep.
Tam -What would be best is if small groups of people began to band together and begin to learn how to grow their own food, raise livestock etc… like the kibbutz in Israel. Try getting anyone interested is the task.
This does seem to be happening to a certain extent in some urban neighborhoods with community gardens. But, not everyone is up to the task. Or are in situations that they can do this. And it is more than just food we are talking about. Many, many, many people are dependent on at least one medication. I am very unusual in that I as a senior am not taking ANY drugs, and I am, while not in the best of shape, a lot better off in terms of physical ability than many of my senior peers.
Then there is the problem of where and how to acquire land. With many people, especially young people, being unable to afford houses, heavily saddled with debt, and earning just enough to keep them alive paycheck to paycheck, this sort of thing is sadly out of reach for many, even if they do pool their income and resources. This brings me to another point. From what I have heard of the kibbutz system in Israel, they are very collectivist in philosophy. While this might appeal to some people, I doubt that it would appeal to many on this forum! Everything belongs to the group, not the individual--even child-rearing was, at least at first, a community effort, individual parents had very little to do with raising their own children and very little say. Again, not something that would go over well with a lot of people here.
It's an interesting idea, but in practice it seems that groups that do band together to live communal lives have a tendency to turn authoritarian. They have to in order to ensure group cohesiveness. In the end you are simply trading one kind of dependency for another. You are not truly free.
I agree with we must prepare. I have all my money in a small credit union. That's it, no pension, no IRA, no inheritence, no income, no SS. I've been itching to get that money out somehow. But how and where to? People talk about CBDC, but don't talk about how to move your money now and where to to escape the lock down of your money that is probably one year away. WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR MONEY NOW PRE-LOCKDOWN?
I'd like to see an answer to that question.
Yes I agree with your hopeful sentiments. Visiting a Holocaust museum in Riga was eye opening for me. They had an exhibit on items recovered from some Siberian gulag. Ingenious, beautiful artifacts. The best of the human spirit manufactured from nothing in a place of pain and suffering. I try to regularly remind myself of that feeling I had during my visit .
That is absolutely a strong possibility of what the future may hold for those who want to be free. Living life on the edge and in a constant state of uncertainty sounds about right.
Nothing like how Tim LaHaye depicted it.
I think none of us knew how they would do it, just that it was coming. I don’t know the day or the hour, but I sure see the season approaching.
Au contraire: It was very easy to see how they'd do it: Get everyone hooked up to the internet and cell phones, and the "convenience" of cashless electronic banking. It's not over. "They" greatly underestimate the human Will.
And how do I get rid of that "writes suanee's sustack" which I do not
I don't know what the mark of the beast is. Can you tell me?
It’s kind of long for a SS comment, but I’ll try to summarize it. There is coming a day when Jesus is going to take his followers out of the world and the devil will have 7 years to do his evil before God crushes him.
That 7 years is called the tribulation and one of the aspects is the devil will demand that people pledge themselves to him and take a ‘mark’ signifying that they are his. Those people can buy or sell during the tribulation period, but their souls are doomed for all eternity.
It’s going to be a terrible time of death and destruction, but I’m confident that I won’t suffer through it because I’ve given my heart and life to Jesus.
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A skill strike, a work strike, a slow down, a purchase pause for a week, a trucker delivery halt for a week, the tools are truly endless to shut this down. You cannot be forced to comply and pretty much anything, yet you could put your 'tools down' and walk away from the game with ease. This is the death rattle of neoliberalism/neoliberal banking controls set to spinal tap '11'.
Like an “Atlas Shrugged” moment - “you asked for it brother…” screw these people.
Covid shows the tattletales and weaklings among us will jump right in with celebs and Hollywood talking about just how great it is…. We are all the last line of freedom - I’m willing to not comply.
Quiet quitting by the masses is harder for tyrants to deal with than protests.
Puts in mind a popular Hippie saying from the 60’s, “What if they started a war, and nobody came?”
I think the solution to much of what is coming lies in figuring out how to act upon that idea en masse. Doesn’t have to be all of us. Many are so caught up in the lies and delusions they’re incapable of not walking into the trap. But I do believe there’s enough of us to not participate that will cause the house of cards to fall.
Yeah, and find out where each of the billionaire MONSTERS live and send their kids to school, then publish the list, hah hah haaah!
Don't forget the cancer of AI and how business will use it to increase profits and decrease jobs!!
It will really interesting to see what happens in the US. The true third rail will be screwing with peoples money and guns. And some point it’s going to get really ugly.
The elitists want us to have a civil war. They're planning on it.
That is so, so, so clear. The media lives to piss rational people off and try to demoralize them at every chance possible.
Or not...look at how many people took the Covid shot.
At least we can grow our own food, using biodynamic and regenerative techniques, and start our own local economies. I'm not convinced that these ppl are the "monolithic" lockstep hoarde their mouthpieces want you to completely believe. It came out on Meryl Nass's substack recently that very few ppl were behind the gagging of free speech on social media. A "round-uppable" number that would fit in any county jail, hah hah haaaaah!!!
REFUSE to USE cbdc.
I agree. But CBDC is just the start to all money lockdowns in all banks, credit unions and financial institutions. Just like CDC was the start to all covid me-too freakout lockdowns. Where do I put my money now - in my freezer, under the floorboards?
Turdeau and Slaveland provided a hint of how government control of money works under an "emergency" caused by peaceful protestors.
central banks are one step (supposedly) removed from government - but central bankers are just socialist enablers. they - like all politicians PRETEND to know what they are doing.
central banks globally had inflation targets of 2% (called "core CPI") that exclude food and energy prices - the area where 80% of the population are most sensitive too. monetary policy settings are supposed to be set for forecast conditions in 12-18 months time.
inflation is running at 8-10% because of governments spending like drunken sailors on useless C19 measures AND even more money on useless climate change goals plus punitive taxes on what should be cheap hydrocarbon energy.
This is my favourite yourube of central bankers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ572yLH9sc
and this my favourite of "woke" politicians thinking they have any say over nature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REPoVfN-Ij4
Buy gold, guns, and ammunition... while you're still allowed to.
... and bitcoin
None of this is possible UNLESS their currency has value, but they're destroying the value of their currency and, thus, their ability to rule. You see soldiers don't care about your theories/credentials/titles - they just shoot whomever they're paid to shoot. If you can't pay them (or you can't pay them w/ $ they trust & can control), then they'll just shoot you, and that's where this ends: at some point (perhaps soon), the soldiers realize that taking orders from people who control the $ is a lot less interesting than controlling the $ themselves. At which point, soft power is exposed as soft. How does Bill Gates keep his money when his bodyguards decide they'd rather kill him than protect him? HINT: he doesn't. In any fight between money & power, power wins UNLESS it gives up (usually because money bought it off). So, long and short, the rich are about to become much less rich or they're about to become dead. The US military will takeover in one form or another - either killing the rich & taking control or by taking their $. The WEF idiots are transient authorities at best. The military will be (if it isn't already) the real power because the guys w/ the guns ALWAYS beat all other forms of power when push comes to shove.
I fully expect General So-and-So to announce that he's now in charge at the White House, but if we don't have that tragedy, it'll be because general so-and-so doesn't need to make the announcement (he'll already be in control). I think the DEI absurdities will only make this process easier, because let's be honest: if general so-and-so started killing the DEI people everybody would celebrate, hide or FIGURE OUT how they can benefit from it. Nobody would resist because nobody cares (and those few principled people who do exist likely agree w/ so and so's ends if not his means). Few people risk their lives for their enemies, so there's no effective opposition to this.
We're about to see the iron fist, people. And the velvet glove people are gonna be gone. It's getting far more violent before the end - and violence favors the well-armed. Sorry, but I don't think the pacifistic safety first NYers are going to get to impoverish the well-armed South for much longer - expect that war/rift to erupt too.
I just don't see any good outcomes here because everyone is too short sighted to make the necessary sacrifices. Babylon fell, Rome fell, and Scarsdale will have its day - that's the unmistakeable lesson of history.
Currencies and anything else only have value because people have faith in it as a means of exchange or wealth. CBDCs will offer neither because they will be under central control. Crypto, gold, silver, cash, and every other tradeable asset will be banned from use.
They are idiots. But they are evil. Problem is, they pull the levers of power--everywhere--and won't hesitate to crush anyone who stands up to them (see J6, Trump, MAGA Americans, etc.).
Lacking self-awareness, bolstered by "fortified" elections, and supported by the vast number of "elites" and corporations, they are going to give it a "go." Do you see any way out of it that doesn't LARP the ending of "Lord of the Flies?"
Also, was that the real Borat? I would be surprised, since he has been revealed as anything but a "stick it to the man" Carlinesque figure these last 5 years.
This is why we Bitcoin
BTC will not save you. If you still think it is out of reach of the authorities after what they did in Canada during the truckers protests, you haven't paid attention.
Not Bitcoin. The wallets seized were not encrypted. But they can deny internet access which would be like freezing accounts.
They froze exchange accounts. You may be able to keep your BTC safe in a cold wallet, but it can never leave there, at least not easily. Once you need to use it to actually buy something, it will be exposed to government control.
> You may be able to keep your BTC safe in a cold wallet, but it can never leave there, at least not easily.
It can totally leave a cold wallet easily. It just can't go back to fiat currency easily. So use it in bitcoin land.
Bitcoin land will be nothing but Bitcoin changing hands. Few goods and services will be available without subjecting it to government control. All corporations and business will fall inline with what the leftist government wants. We've already seen how this goes. You better own real, tangible assets that other people need and want and that the government can't constitutionally outlaw and confiscate.
People who value freedom and integrity had better learn to be content with a lot less. Like skills, the ability (and willingness) to live simply is something they cannot confiscate.
Things are changing very quickly.
Bitcoin is not a savior, true, but it's part of an overall strategy to up the chances of being able to obtain, provide, and trade goods at the base of Maslow's hierarchy of needs... shelter, water, food.
There are other critical parts to the strategy including real property and skills (for growing, building, and defending those assets).
For sure I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket, but I figure buying a little bitcoin now may save my ass later, if "nothing but Bitcoin changing hands" becomes how a lot of person-to-person business gets done (which it has in other countries with dodgy money).
And in that case it doesn't matter if Amazon won't take my bitcoin... I won't be sitting around planning my next frivolous Amazon purchase anyway, I'll be trying to secure food or fuel or materials from some local yokel much like myself. Having several tools at my disposal increases my chance of success.
> Once you need to use it to actually buy something, it will be exposed to government control.
Only if you convert it to meatspace first. What happens in bitcoin stays in bitcoin.
> They froze exchange accounts.
Precisely. You totally break bitcoin decentralization if you let CoinBase or Binance (or FTX :) hold your bitcoin. You don't even own your bitcoin - they do, like a bank holding your money. You are just a creditor and your deposits are subject to governmental control.
If you hold your own wallet, once you convert $ to BTC, there is not a lot anyone can do to stop you holding and moving it, unless they get ahold of your private key.
They *can* sniff your pseudonomyzed trail on the blockchain, and they can intimidate businesses into refusing payments from your public key, but there are workarounds for those problems... It can be run through a mixmaster, converted to monero, or just be used natively as bitcoin to pay for goods and services. It's not gone.
NGMI. Good luck!
On- and off-ramps aren't out of reach of the authorities, but BTC itself is. (Well, provided the authorities don't physically steal your private keys.)
The Canadian state thugs had *some* success stealing private keys and blocking off-ramps for BTC donations. But bitcoiners had some success too, and learned from the experience. The thugs maybe learned too, but who is smarter?
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/how-bitcoin-fueled-canada-trucker-convoy
We have to pay each other with bitcoin. Don't use the on- and off-ramps.
"BTC itself" is nothing but a digital signature. That's the problem. You can't do anything with it. You can't touch it, eat it, live in it, use it to build things, etc. You won't be able to buy the things you need to survive with it such as food, shelter, energy, transportation, medicine, medical care, etc. These are all industries completely captured by and beholden to the government now. It won't matter who is smarter. What will matter is who has control, including control of the police and military.
People will continue teeth gnashing about Voting Harder(tm) and "fighting back" until they are exhausted and demoralized as this debt-based financial system collapses - CBDC OR NOT.
Hopefully Bitcoin will become more and more apparent by that time, but with so much emotional vested interest against Bitcoin and Bitcoiners, this will be hard transition for many. Harder than trans people who take hormones and chop off their wee wee, in fact. But I digress...
Put it this way: If us Bitcoiners are wrong, the future is still going to be utterly dystopian and your money and purchasing power will always be debasing. There will probably be UBI as well, so unless you have literal millionS - RIGHT NOW, you will slowly get poorer and poorer.
In fact you'll only be marginally richer than us foolish bitcoiners. But considering how shallow people are, I guess that's enough for them to feel good about themselves.
If you are wrong on bitcoin of course, you lose out bigly, and even more teeth gnashing.
Choose wisely.
I wish it was so but BTC has a lot of work to do, community too focused in get rich quick at the moment https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/fungibility-graveyard/.
Monero is currently what Satoshis vision for BTC was.
It's just the cycle of life, though, isn't it? All through history the lives of the ordinary have been made wretched by idiot kings and their idiot projects that sucked up all the resources--and then later generations swooned over the brilliance of their creations or strategies etc. etc. while busy building/entering into their own follies. And isn't what you urge here the same, really, as what impelled the rise of private banks--that eventually grew into the monster system we have now?
But yes, really ominous, Lagarde the Ludicrous talking about all of this and making cash illegal for transactions over a certain limit etc. etc.
A teeny quibble on analogies. We *do* have soup sandwiches and they're clever and delicious. We call 'em dumplings. They can scorch the mouth though...
some European countries already have a cash limit. Dad told me a while ago he wanted to pay something in cash and they refused to accept it. And even some bank transactions have to be split into smaller amounts. You cannot even do with your own hard earned money what you want
Entertainment venues in the Midwest (theaters in Chicago, Notre Dame stadium) are refusing cash payments, according to family living there.
I think Chicago has seceded from the midwest.
Chicago has definitely jumped the shark.
Very scary stuff!
It is the most frightening of all futures. Keep telling everyone you know.
I'm thinking of a way to set up structures that will get participants that aren't quite red pilled. They promise convenience. How about fun and good company?
We need to make real things again. That is the true economy.
AND WORK TOGETHER to create a real future devoid of billionaire con-trolling, AND the con-trolling billionaires, too ;-)
Prior to COVID I'd have never believed even the sheeple would fall for a government controlled electronic currency. Now it's more than obvious this is inevitable. There are those who optimistically believe that the looming financial and currency crisis caused by central banks and our central planning overlords will force a return to the gold standard, a gold or PM backed USD and/or Euro. This would in effect be moving toward more liberty, less tyranny. Those people are sadly wrong. The response to that crisis will be the same as the response to all crisis now, which will be a headlong plunge into ever greater government control. The CBDC will be the "solution" sold to clown world as financial salvation for the "working class" that will have the added benefit of ensuring the rich finally pay their "fair share." This is a fait accompli. The only question is when, not if.
It is also, in essence, illegal.
In those nations where referendums were held re: joining the EG/EU, none such referendum contained the open-endedness of the EU's projects.
So, it is fuly possible at least in theory for almost any national governement to say "Nope. We only agreed to the terms and conditions which were in effect when we held a referendum. Want us to give up this much power and sovereignity to unelected technocrats of the french-german axis? We'll get back to you after another referendum."
In theory, at least.
God I wish. Sometimes I ask myself what I am missing? Why are people so unaware of basic principles like rule of law?