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Before I ever saw that GFM had backtracked, I had read an article saying that they were stealing the money. Within ten minutes I had already requested a refund, disputed the charge with my cc account (under the "services not delivered" clause), and gone to GiveSendGo where I donated 5x my original amount. I would love to see others up their donations, too. Here's the link.

https://www.givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022/donate

Oh, and just to make a little more work for GFM, I also requested a refund via the refund link that the weasels finally emailed out. I won't take two refunds from them if they accidentally honor (I almost laughed typing that word in relation to GFM) both requests , I actually have some ethics, but I will happily let them spend the resources to sort the requests properly.

One more thing - I use DuckDuckGo and Brave, but made sure to use Safari and then go to Google and type in "How to get refund from Go Fund Me for donation stolen from trucker convoy" and "How to donate to trucker convoy via GiveSendGo". It's a tiny thing, but I do this every time I want to make a point to these companies since they live and die by their search data. This is one way to let them know they are losing, slowly but surely

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Excellent comment, and thanks for using Brave. We have our own search engine too now, with its own index, which you can make default in Brave’s settings / search engines panel. URL is search.brave.com.

Good of you to try to train Google’s algorithm, too :-). With Brave Search, if you also enable Web Discovery Project in settings, your anonymized use helps grow the index we build.

Note: DDG is a Bing front end, they do not have their own index.

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Brendan Eich in the house! Your Real Vision interview was incredible. Thank you for building Brave. I'm using it right now

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Is there a link available for this interview? 🌳

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Wow. The Brave people read bad cattitude too? Now I trust Brave even more - a rare real world affirmation of my judgement.

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I love seeing these connections! So reaffirming.

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Sorry to ask...but does Brave have a " Installation and use for Dummies" link. Asking for a...well yeah, ok...I'm asking for me.

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Go to brave.com, click on "download brave" and start using it.

It behaves a lot like Chrome, but with extra features and less evilness. (They also have a help center explaining the extra features.)

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Basically if a site is not working, click the little lion in your address bar and turn off shields (though question how important that site is, why would it not work if your shields are not up?!?). Other than that, it basically is super easy to use and actually find it much more user friendly than any other browser out there. Remembering passwords ACTUALLY WORKS on this browser!!!

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Wait, are you really Brandon Eich? Thanks for all you do! We appreciate you!

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yes. brendan and i have been friends (and gatopals™) for some time our chats on privacy and a distributed internet have influenced my thinking significantly.

great guy, great resource.

all bad cattitudes are written on brave browsers.

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My favorite thing about Brave is that you took the tyrants’ own tool and modified it and it’s now being used against them. Delicious.

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I’m loving Brave! Heard about it from Joe Rogan in his talk with Dr. Robert Epstein and downloaded it immediately. I had just discovered who’s on the Firefox board and was looking for an alternative. Thank you for providing it!

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Been using Brave for a long time now. Appreciate your courage, innovation and productivity!

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I have put the link mentioned above for Brave as a bookmarks bar item on Google LOL I had no idea how to make it my favorite. My google account does the search with Yahoo would you believe. No matter how many times I try to change it in the settings, every time I start up there is that crap again.

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Just last night I heard about Brave for the first time... now I'm seeing it everywhere. Downloaded it and putting it to constant use. I had been Firefox and with robust anti-ad and anti-tracking, etc., but Brave has been so highly recommended. I'm very grateful.

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Good switch. You may not have been aware that Brendan Eich co-founded Mozilla, the company that makes Firefox, but was hounded out of the company in 2014 by proto-woke activists who were mad that he made a small donation to a cause they disagreed with. I used to be a user of both Firefox and Thunderbird (Mozilla's email client) but dropped them like a rabid hamster once I heard how Eich had been forced out.

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Agree, Firefox is woke mess

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Best browser since Netscape Navigator 1.0.

Thanks for everything mate.

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Just made Brave my default search engine…Thanks.

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real men use only brave search

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Thanks for Brave. I've been using it with Yandex because of duck duck go's front end. Look forward to reading about your search engine and giving it a test drive.

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I did not know about Brave, but I admire your principles. Firefox's loss is the Internet's gain. Ummmmm.... Let's go, Brendan ;)

I remember when it all happened:

https://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/new-mozilla-add-ons-t13821.html

I switched to Pale Moon - Firefox engine without the politics - I'll try Brave

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I use Brave exclusively; thanks for the tips.

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can you use brave on your iphone?

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Yes. Someone above writes to search brave.com and download it there. I’m not very tech savvy but I’m going to check out what Brendan Eich commented above about the index and web discovery project.

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Truly a horrible thing what Firefox did to smear your reputation. Use Brave all the time to prevent ad dollars going to sites that don't deserve it. Any possible chance you can bring the playlist feature to the desktop?

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Brave search enabled! Along with the Web Discover Project (which I normally would never participate in on any other platform).

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I just found it! An add on! Yay! Thank you for prompting me to look further.

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I did the same thing--doubled the amount to GiveSendGo

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It was @ $760,000 at 8:45 but as people woke up it’s getting hammered again.

All I hear outside my hotel are HOOONK HOOOONK. 🇨🇦🚛🇨🇦

Today is going to be good!

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HONK HONK!

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The honking breaks into tune every few minutes. Awesome

There it goes again!

📢📢📢📢📢

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Scrub that. It’s incessant now!!! Hoooooooooonk 📢📢🇨🇦🇨🇦🚛

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Admire you guys. I know it is not easy to put up with noise and thank you from the bottom of my heart.

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The Wild Geese!!!

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its over 1 m now...

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Does anyone know specifically who will distribute the funds? I plan to donate, but I just heard about the crap with GoFUndMe. F them. I’ll keep reading…..

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Looks like they're getting hammered with traffic. First attempt was blocked by Cloudflare, but it worked when I tried again a few minutes later.

I would advise GoFundMe to go suck the barbed cock of Satan, but I have a sneaking suspicion they'd actually like that.

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I heard some canadian broadcast where they mentioned some of the funds for the truckers were coming from sources in the US... I can't remember the actual wording, but it was said in such a way as to imply that it was evil outside forces, sort of like "Russian interference in elections". Good God, they have nothing new in their playbooks.

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Me too.

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I donated 3x original amount and used a satirical donor display name.

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James Watson?

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good educated guess. Though I see that one being very large donation, I made an average size donation.

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We should all donate another $5 in the names of Justin Trudeau and James Watson, just for funsies.

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I did the search requests you suggested. Not a tiny thing at all, a million minds can matter when added up. These trends are closely monitored.

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We are the drivers of the data they're slave to

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Funny how Christian sites are standing up for freedom.

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Good for them. I believe that we got to this stage because the governments undermined our faith in religion - look at China. Time to rediscover our faith/spirituality

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It’s appropriate. Jesus healed the sick and called for strength in the face of injustice. He was for truth not fear.

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Love the idea to use Google and Safari for this sort of thing.

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We did the same - 10X original amount - no one is going to tell us who we can and can not support. I am especially going to enjoy Monday this week when I call the political party we usually donate to and let them know that this year 100% of our donations went to truckers instead!!

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Thanks for all the excellent info! I was holding off on donating once I started hearing about GFM’s (or GFY) initial shenanigans last week… appreciate the new link and knowing that GSG exists!

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Those were my thoughts too. Doubling my original donation.

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note: it is in USD now.

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I gave $25 through GFM. Did all the same things. FINALLY got through all the bot and DDOS attacks and gave $300 to the truckers and $30 to GiveSendGo since they don’t swipe off the top. The truckers are going to need an army of lawyers. I hope people keep donating. It’s turning into what we knew it would.

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Yes. The ottawa police are now seizing food and propane. So ashamed of canada.

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Ashamed of our government and the citizens willing to still vote for them going forward. The Truckers are not a fringe minority but represent a significant portion of our populace - and it will be much more so as more people wake up to discover just how badly they have been lied to!

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It’s not going to end without sacrifice. The question now that the executable has come is will Canadians hide or stand with the truckers? I haven’t a clue…..

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Yeah, I wish somehow we could have gotten the word out to all the donors and have them issue chargebacks and request refunds like you did. I am guessing they would have been inundated. Not good to have thousands of chargebacks filed against you.

Maybe GFM's actions will wake up more people. I certainly hope so!

Thank you for spreading the word about GiveSendGo!

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My pleasure! Hopefully, a few people on here will read about asking the cc companies for chargebacks and will follow through on that same line of recourse. As a business owner, I know what a pain in the tail it is to have a chargeback filed against you. They require time and manpower, no matter whether you are proving your innocence or fixing your mistake.

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Yes, lots of time and followup re chargebacks. :)

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GiveSendGo is hard to access right now. Looks to me like Leftists are DDoS-ing it.

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Overwhelmed by all the people flocking to them

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Or they are just overloaded with people trying to access the donation?

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Both. They tweeted earlier that they are under ddos attack

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Seems to be a DOS attack on GiveSendGo. I keep getting 502 error

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I think it's getting hammered with traffic. Try later.

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Don't know if GiveSendGo has cloudflare as DDOS service. Cloudflare itself has become somewhat woke in it's protection.

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I just typed in givesendgo.com (to go directly to the home page) and that's giving a 502 error, as well. So hopefully, it's just a tech or traffic issue and not more fuckery.

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Its fuckery. Ddos attack. Plus swamped with donors. So good & bad.

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A 502 error implies that the load balancing servers at GSG aren't able to handle the traffic. Often happens when a site gets much greater than design loads. I'm sure they are busily trying to fix it. Meanwhile wait a day and try again.

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I get a notification that Cloudflare is working but GSG server is not. Dunno if that's so.

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Me too

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Thank you for the new donation link! Also, great idea on google search. Will follow your lead.

Also, i did not receive an email from gofundme re auto refund but i did complete the form prior to their announcement. I hope i get my money back.

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You don't need to wait around, hoping. The real reason they changed their tune is a lot of donors immediately disputed the charge with their banks. Every chargeback costs gfm $15.

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Costs them 10%

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I got the email just recently but it showed up in my promotions (where my substacks do!)

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I switched to Proton Mail just because of that. I used gmail for over a decade, but I’m not going to allow them to screen my Mail that they disapprove of.

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So do I. There will come a day when they use their massive information gathering not for marketing, but to help the deep state identify us deplorables. They are probably doing it now.

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That link hasn’t been working for me since last night! Keeps saying bad request. Tips?

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They're under ddos attack plus inundated with donors.

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Keep trying, is all I can say. You will be able to get on eventually, and the truckers (and all freedom lovers) will be so grateful for your persistence.

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Same for me. I also tried to donate through another fundraiser Jeff Childers's Coffee & Covid sent around this morning, https://www.givesendgo.com/Warroomcanadanet, but I'm getting an error message when trying to donate through that one too. Will keep trying.

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I ended up being successful but it took many tries :)

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Okay. Good to know. Thanks for the update.

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Not sure why this is happening but when I clicked on the link above a got a 502 Error message. Then I tried www.givesendgo.com and got the same message. I hop this is because the site is really, really busy rather than being messed with by the dark side of the force.

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It is. They had a statement on their twitter last night asking for people to keep trying to get through - they are having difficulty keeping up with the deluge of donations coming in. We tried 3 times before getting through - and over that time the funds went up by over $100,000!

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They are under ddos attack & inundated with donors

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Starve the Beast on all fronts. I de-Googled my life completely about a year ago and now pay for encrypted email (ProtonMail or TutaMail is a great choice). Use Brave and Brave search engine for browser and search. Do not use Amazon, FB, Instagram, Twitter, nothing. Contribute to great Gatos on Substack and buy as much food as possible locally from the farmers. This is the way forward.

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Same. I'm also using cash if I can.

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And look into getting gold and silver

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Same, but I am happy to push unwanted search traffic numbers up on their site.

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...and decentralize as much as possible.

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Halallujia.

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Startmail is also a good encrypted email program. I also use Vivaldi for my browser.

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I also used to use Vivaldi, but since it used the chrome engines, it felt too googley for me. I switched to Brave and it turns out I was right to do so.

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Stunningly outrageous! Never forgive, never forget. Gofundme is toast.

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well, it certainly is toast for a minimum of 20-30% of Canadians now, possibly 50%.

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This is not the first time goFme has done this to a cause I supported, so I knew it was a mistake when they first set up with goFme. I was hoping for the best but expecting the worst, as it were.

I don't know if anyone has discussed this , but last night there was a strategy being sent all over social media for donors to request a refund NOT through the goFme site, but rather by filing a dispute with the bank . cc company so that along with the refund, goFme would be forced to pay a ~$15 processing fee. Times tha by 120,000 donors and that is substantial.

Greater minds than mine on here would be able to tell me the likelihood of success of this strategy, but I have to believe that given goFme's change of heart to issue refunds automatically that it must have at least had some chance of working.

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From what I read they can be charged 10%, or a min of $15, whichevers greater

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Or 80%. The appearance that the Left is half the population is an illusion perpetrated by the Left.

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For sure!!

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The truckers seem to have relocated to gab, which is the right choice. The platform is funded by users and it has already shown, with actions and words of the founder Andrew Torba, that it can be trusted. In January apparently they got 85 million page views against 70 million 2 months ago so it's growing - unlike the nastiest competitor, Facebook, that finally lost users. Although not as good, Rumble and Gettr are also increasing. The Youtube policy about Covid (see the latest article from the Brownstone institute for an anaylsis) is self-harm on the altar of bootlicking to the Government. I hope that one of the core issues of 2022 will be the rise of alternative small tech platforms and that there will be more crashes for big tech - Google you are next. Only a matter of time.

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They also started https://givesendgo.com/FreedomConvoy2022, but the site is currently buckling under demand. Which is good 🙂. Gab is awesome, as is El Gato. He's my fav substack by far.

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Wow over $3.6 million in USD.

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Thanks for info on Gab!!

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Gettr is like a direct copy of Twitter. Very easy to use.

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From what I've heard about their willingness to censor, perhaps they are a more direct copy of Twitter than one might want. Maybe they're okay, and I'm on both, but I prefer Gab.

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It was easy for Nick Fuentes, too. Up to a point.

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I went to gettr as Malone mentioned it so I decided there vs gab. It’s ok but small

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Time to play GoDefundMe - no more donations there EVER

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Nice. :)

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Makes you wonder how long they have been skimming $ off of "good causes".....I was just going to donate to a friend who rescues horses. Maybe I will just send her a check in the mail instead.

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Beautiful idea!

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Definitely. The one mistake made by the Trucker Convoy was using gofu**me. I broke ties with that organization years ago. I can't wait to see them on the list of businesses that failed and went bankrupt due to the "pandemic".

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I thought so too, but now I see how it was the best inadvertent decision ever. The cause will get even more funding AND help shine more light on another delusional piece of the crumbling bedrock of shame. Let freedom ring (or HONK)!!

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I’m with you. I don’t donate thru gofme so I hadn’t donated. Now I can!!

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