The one thing that Christianity (Religion) taught us was NOT to steal or covet our neighbors "stuff"... There are other components of the Golden Rule and/or the Ten Commandments of course but this turns out to be a REALLY big one in modern times... Now, not so much...
I am fine if people want to opt-out of religion... But I need to be fre…
The one thing that Christianity (Religion) taught us was NOT to steal or covet our neighbors "stuff"... There are other components of the Golden Rule and/or the Ten Commandments of course but this turns out to be a REALLY big one in modern times... Now, not so much...
I am fine if people want to opt-out of religion... But I need to be free enough to opt-out of the world they create when they steal from each other with impunity and especially when they use government to do so...
The truth of the matter is that if there is to be peace we have to accept that some will not acknowledge Jesus or Buddha or Muhamed and we HAVE TO FIND a set of rules that will work IN SPITE of this or accept that there will be no end to war.
You think that civilizations before the rise of Christianity had no concept of property? Of the rights of people within their society? These things have been spelled out from the time writing was invented.
And most of these contracts failed because the governed look to the government to supply these rights. Many of these societies have or are careening towards socialism/Marxism. That is why founders of US took the path they took to ascribe those rights as God/Creator given and intrinsic. The transformation that is part of the root of our ills in US is the movement away from God. Majority of the population now looks to the government to provide rights and socialism and Marxism are more and more accepted. Atheism and evolutionary mindset lead down the same path every time.
The Founders were not fools and they understood the use of metaphor and they did not define the concept of God.
Our ills in America are the same as in every advanced culture when life becomes too comfortable and young people have leisure and means to study idiot subjects that do not lead to practical application.
What's your definition of God and morality? Do you feel comfortable letting other people define those concepts for themselves while being citizens of a secular civil society?
Free will. I don’t believe in compulsory religion but there are not many communists and socialists who share that sentiment. Your characterization of the founder’s concept of God/Creator is pretty broad and don’t think that was there intent based on personal writings of many of the founders. Money can be your God if you chose. Considering yourself God is the tendency our current society is heading towards with no objective truth or moral belief. But again I’m not taking about forcing beliefs on anyone, but evangelism and sharing the gospel as a Christian is my duty.
The Founders had the wit to separate their personal beliefs from the crafting of a secular republic within which people of any belief system could live safely. Of course we know from our earliest history that religious sects have done their best to harass and/or exterminate those of different beliefs.
Evangelism certainly qualifies as pestering though you are free to pester at will.
The one thing that Christianity (Religion) taught us was NOT to steal or covet our neighbors "stuff"... There are other components of the Golden Rule and/or the Ten Commandments of course but this turns out to be a REALLY big one in modern times... Now, not so much...
I am fine if people want to opt-out of religion... But I need to be free enough to opt-out of the world they create when they steal from each other with impunity and especially when they use government to do so...
Ironic how this attitude will lead to them "owning nothing."
The truth of the matter is that if there is to be peace we have to accept that some will not acknowledge Jesus or Buddha or Muhamed and we HAVE TO FIND a set of rules that will work IN SPITE of this or accept that there will be no end to war.
The fundamental right is the key.
"Offer others the same luxury we demand."
You think that civilizations before the rise of Christianity had no concept of property? Of the rights of people within their society? These things have been spelled out from the time writing was invented.
I swear I read the exact wording of the Golden Rule in something about ancient Babylon in social studies.
And most of these contracts failed because the governed look to the government to supply these rights. Many of these societies have or are careening towards socialism/Marxism. That is why founders of US took the path they took to ascribe those rights as God/Creator given and intrinsic. The transformation that is part of the root of our ills in US is the movement away from God. Majority of the population now looks to the government to provide rights and socialism and Marxism are more and more accepted. Atheism and evolutionary mindset lead down the same path every time.
Communism is a religion like any other.
The Founders were not fools and they understood the use of metaphor and they did not define the concept of God.
Our ills in America are the same as in every advanced culture when life becomes too comfortable and young people have leisure and means to study idiot subjects that do not lead to practical application.
What's your definition of God and morality? Do you feel comfortable letting other people define those concepts for themselves while being citizens of a secular civil society?
Free will. I don’t believe in compulsory religion but there are not many communists and socialists who share that sentiment. Your characterization of the founder’s concept of God/Creator is pretty broad and don’t think that was there intent based on personal writings of many of the founders. Money can be your God if you chose. Considering yourself God is the tendency our current society is heading towards with no objective truth or moral belief. But again I’m not taking about forcing beliefs on anyone, but evangelism and sharing the gospel as a Christian is my duty.
The Founders had the wit to separate their personal beliefs from the crafting of a secular republic within which people of any belief system could live safely. Of course we know from our earliest history that religious sects have done their best to harass and/or exterminate those of different beliefs.
Evangelism certainly qualifies as pestering though you are free to pester at will.