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Great analysis! 2 things I would like to see:

R2 for all states

More focus on boosters - anyone unvaccinated now will basically never get the shots unless they are tied down and jabbed. The active question is whether the "fully vaccinated" double jabbed will recover from their shots if they wait long enough, or if they have done permanent damage. And, what their best course of action is going forward.

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Yes… I’ve been interested in the question if people will be able to recover from their vaccines if they get no more. I guess only time will tell.

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Frontline doctors like Pierre Kory have been focusing on treatments for the vaccine injured. Their treatment protocols are a work in progress and is changing rapidly. They are meeting some success and some failures. I think some people are not going to be recovered depending on the conditions. The big elephant in the room is the changes to a person's DNA caused by the messenger RNA = something pHarma said wouldn't happen = happened.

I am really worried about the blood supply for transfusions. If you are in an accident or have a surgery where you need blood, how do you get blood from those who are unvaxed?

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Del Bigtree had to get a blood transfusion 2021. No hospitals in Texas could confirm he would get unvaxxed blood, so he flew to Mexico to get it.

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Too bad not everyone could afford that or could have an option in an extreme emergency.

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This worries me, too. I think there's no escape. WAY too many have been poisoned. Now an interesting and disturbing question will be how pure bloods are affected by transfusions of the zombie blood. In the Omega Man/I am Legend story, the reverse cures the zombie. I suspect pure bloods will be on the losing end of this one.

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I fear you are right.

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OK-LISTEN UP folks. 1. Normal mature red cells do NOT have a nucleus, therefore no DNA with hidden RNA. 2. Most donated blood products are leukofiltered in that most of the donor's White Blood Cells (nucleated) are filtered out (not 100%), but resulting Red Blood Cell products have very low WBC cells left. 3. Yes, you can do an autologous (self) or allogeneic (family/friend) donation which will sit on a separate shelf with different labeling until needed, BUT each of these donations need a doctor's request and costs the donor/patient for the extra handling charges. A much easier fix is to ask your doctor to order blood products that are IRRADIATED, which prevents the donor's remaining WBCs from replicating in their new host. Of course, you can never plan for emergencies requiring blood, but you will have more to worry about than if the donor was vaccinated or not. I hope this helps assuage some fear out there. :)

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Take it from a transfusion director, Odell is completely correct. Red cells (RBCs) can also be frozen (which kills any remaining white cells) after being glycerolized -- this is something the military has been doing for years. The only problem with frozen cells is their short shelf life after thaw or they would be used much more. But this also kills the non-RBC cellular elements.

Red cells, the foundation of most transfusions (there can be platelet and WBC and other specialty infusions, but most transfusions are to make up lost blood volume where only the red cells matter) have no nucleus -- they are just tiny bags of hemoglobin which is the molecule that carries oxygen. To prevent reactions in the recipients (beyond the ABO/Rh/minor antibody reactions for which blood is "typed and cross-matched") WBCs and other cellular components are close to eliminated in preparation. Irradiation would take out anything left, but WBC numbers are so low in packed red cells that it likely does not matter anyway -- the recipient is pretty good at taking out foreign white cells that are transfused.

So take transfusion worries off your "really worried about this" list -- there are more serious things about which to worry. Just make sure you get packed red cells, which is almost certainly what you would be getting anyway if bleeding out.

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To clarify - a cell without a nucleus (Red Blood Cell) CANNOT express the spike protein, correct?

The blood would be purified of all non RBC's, including any free RNA spikes?

(Not personally worried, just interested in the topic).

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An interesting set of questions. A cell without a nucleus (a circulating RBC) cannot express any protein -- it has no machinery not only for decoding protein instructions, but also for making any proteins. As I said above, a red cell is just a cell membrane around a dollop of hemoglobin, the chemical used to transport oxygen around. There are no organelles, no components -- just hemoglobin. So no expressing spike protein.

Depending on how prepped, components other than RBCs are reduced to either zero or to such a low number that they are essentially not remarkable. Any free RNA spikes would have been in the fluid (plasma) in which the red cells are suspended, not in the cells themselves. The plasma will have been largely removed to pack the cells so little or any would be left. I suppose if the person were freshly infected/spikeshotted there might be a few spikes (or viral particles, for that matter, in there -- blood comes with all kinds of contaminants (other viruses as a case in point) that are not examined or cleared before administration).

This is why transfusions are nothing to do cavalierly, but in general if you are getting them you are really, really short of oxygen carrying capacity and you need them. Minor transfusion reactions are common because there is "lots of stuff" in any transfusion. A few (hepatitis, HIV) are screened for; most are not. However, having said that, most of the reactions are minor and the recipient's immune system and other cleansing mechanics clean up the transfused products well -- especially packed red cells. But it is not unusual (not common either) to pick up some viral disease that came from the donor.

So "purified" probably too strong a word. Other than glycosylating and freezing/thawing, packed cells will be "almost pure"...and biologically this is almost always good enough. As I noted above, if you are getting a transfusion, I doubt worrying about whether the person was vaccinated or not should be high on your list.

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Thank-you very much for the info! Whew!😓

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If you need a transfusion, the danger of whatever made you need it likely outweighs the danger of using vaccinated blood. Red blood cells don't reproduce at all, and it is unlikely that many of the other cells in the transfusion a) have integrated the mRNA into their genome and b) will produce it and reproduce it in your body. It's possible, sure, but don't lose sleep over it.

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That is my thinking about transfusions as well. I am much more concerned about having some sort of accident (car crash, etc.) and waking up later in the hospital to discover I've been jabbed without my knowledge or consent. You don't know what these molesters will do to you when you're unconscious. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to jab you in the ambulance on the way to hospital.

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Also, my worry.

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Can't even trust if you bank your own blood. Where will it go? Who makes sure it yours, should you need it? Scary as hell.

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I am worried about how many doctors are vaccinated and boosted. If we have a large percent of the boosted being extremely sick or dying, we will therefore have a large amount of doctors too sick to work. Combined with overwhelmed hospitals, we are looking at a disaster this fall and winter.

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I keep saying this over and over. It is already a Nightmare just to see a doctor. Can't even get refills authorized from Primary care doctor without calling every day.

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Yep. Family member has had that problem. Then they give them 1/2 of 1 month supply. They have already had a reaction from being w/o 'script for over a week and was in emergency room. A$$holes!!!

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also, we will have eliminated a lot of doctors i don't want to see or have working on me

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Always check your brakes (brake fluid, have some ready) and tyres, (tyres go hard and slippery in the rain after 3-4 or more years). Watch for trail gaiters.

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i think you can store your own blood if it's a serious concern.

What about a group online of purebloods to donate in emergencies. Would work well enough in populated areas. Then just carry a card saying, 'if blood needed, call X blood bank and someone will help.'

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I know conversion of RNA to DNA is theoretically possible if there happens to be some Reverse polymerase around but the RNA has to get into the nucleus, the polymerase has to copy it into DNA and then it has to be inserted into the host cellular DNA. I know it happens with other viruses , at least DNA viruses, but has it been detected in this situation?

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Yes. In vitro, Swedish study. McCullough's been making a lot of noise about this one.

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Thanks. Do u have a link?

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This is what I think you are looking for:

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

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No, no virus has ever been found in a human.

www.theviraldelusion.com

www.viroliegy.com

and others

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The hard part of the plan is if you are in an accident or a gun shot wound you won't have the opportunity to choose. You may face the reality of taking what they have and hope for the best or immediate death. The problem really is that the blood banks and Red Cross don't test for and separate label the blood. That should change but they are also captured organizations of the same healthcare system that push the jabs

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I actually called and spoke with a blood bank person yesterday about this. For one thing, blood only lasts for 42 days maximum.

For another, I got the impression that the surgeon is going to have to be on board. To me, the surgeon is the key piece.

For the enterprising pureblood, know that it is illegal to sell anything body related if it goes into someone else to heal them (you can sell body parts if it goes for research, for example). So the blood bank has to be a non profit. The hospital pays the blood bank how much it costs them to get the blood. That of course includes all the normal things to run the non profit, including rent and staff salaries etc.

I wasn't confident in the person's answer about being able to tell if the blood was vaxed or not. He mentioned antibody tests but I'm skeptical that would be a reliable indicator?

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Interesting idea, but ... how do you ensure that you only have blood from unvaccinated donors? It is easy to demonstrate that you are vaccinated through a vaccine certificate, but hard to demonstrate you are not.

So, I am going towards personal (or close relatives) banks.

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Maybe dogs could be trained.

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That's a good idea! I wonder if it could be done. --- Teach them to attack if someone jabbed comes into your home. 🤣👍

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😏

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Isn't there a time limit on how long blood can be held? Accidents happen, especially with jabbed folks passing out at the wheel.

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42 days max shelf life.

They have to put a reagent into the blood to make it last that long. I believe they keep it in basically a refrigerator.

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I checked into that - it has a fairly short shelf life ... (If I recall a few months)... so really not an option

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42 days shelf life maximum.

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I saw a Substack thing (maybe discussed only in the comments) about a place like this, the domain name had .ch (Switzerland) and they were looking for donors. Wish I could remember it …

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That's kinda a fer piece to go to donate blood...or get blood.

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1 data point :2 astra jabs, 9 months apart and 2nd one 6 months ago now.

Omicron was 2 days of slightly sore throat.

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I’m “fully vaccinated” and doing fine, had corona in March and haven’t had it again despite the virus surging back all around me in Montreal. Seems I still have an immune system, thankfully. A boostered colleague did get infected a second time recently. 💐

Everyone who is vaxxed and hasn’t had an infection before is testing positive now. Corona is cleaning house and making a joke of the vaccines, but nobody’s talking about it here. The people in government responsible for the mass vax campaign have wisely moved on to other political projects. All signs point to them getting away with this, but as this post shows, they’re skating on extremely thin ice. The truth is constantly at risk of bursting into mainstream awareness.

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I saw a disturbing poll from May 2022 showing 55% think the vaccines stop the spread a lot or pretty much, and only 22% think they don’t at all or very little.

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Meanwhile, the western countries - US and Canada quite prominently - continue to require injections for foreign nationals to enter, amongst other restrictions (Canadian citizens who reenter their country without the mystery juice still have to quarantine for two weeks, for instance). For Science Believers our governments seem remarkably impervious to empirical tests of hypotheses. As you've noted, their current tactic seems to be just refusing to collect or release data that's inconvenient to their dogma.

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Thank goodness we have our catma to counter it.

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I am so grateful for these substacks but have not been successful in getting anyone from the other side to listen. We need to figure out how to get people to start switching sides as we are just preaching to the choir here. This has helped me immensely but won't ultimately help us to save humanity.

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I've given up on talking about the booster train. May try again when the "Omi" shot appears.

I'm just going to ask people - since the last 4 shots weren't safe and effective, what makes you think this one will be?

(Note - almost all my boosted friends have had Covid by now, while I have not. They just say - you must have a strong immune system)

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I don't talk about it with people anymore. It is useless. It's turned into a religion.

BTW... the fall shot is omni + original strain, and the FDA has decided it does NOT need to go through clinical trials. Have no idea how much mRNA load is in it.

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Ditto….the cult seems impermeable to logic. The sicker they become the more they believe. It’s truly unfathomable!

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LOL - 'I'm on my second round of Covid. It was HELL. Thank god I was double boosted. Imagine how bad it would have been.'

Face-fucking-palm!

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Me neither.

I just sit back and watch them suffer from their endless illnesses and listen to them complain.

I never say ... do you think the injections might be damaging your immune system?

Nah... no point in that.

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I had heard that regarding the FDA and the lack of testing, but wasn't sure if that was a done deal.

If that's the case, I may just add that question - why are comfortable taking a shot that's had no clinical trials?

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Because "they told you to." Plus I wanna go to a broadway show.

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Exactly the same for me!

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They're right! You're immune to medical propoganda!

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You might find our side starts growing quite quickly from here on. Not numerically, mind - just proportionally. Think about it.

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Nothing really to look forward to, but probable.

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If you trawl enough Substack comments, you will find several ex-vaxx-zealots who switched sides.

Not saying that will ever be a common outcome, but we shouldn't rule out the ability of any human being to change his mind after encountering new evidence.

Meanwhile, the number of vaxx skeptics converted to vaxx zealotry has remained essentially zero.

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I don't know of any yet. Still - if even a small percentage changes their mind (and continues to), perhaps we get there!

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After all, even Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone took the vax before they decided against it!

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John, your observation "For Science Believers our governments seem remarkably impervious to empirical tests of hypotheses" is an interesting rabbit hole. What hypotheses could explain this?

- Bureaucrats are stupid, but stubborn

- Politicians need a way to back away without losing face

- Control is a wonderful thing, and we ain't giving it back

I am interested in your thoughts, and no I am not being facetious with the explanations.

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The above explain a certain degree of it. So does sunk cost fallacy amongst those in the general population who still cling to their covidian faith - cultists are always insensitive to disconfirming evidence.

The largest single driver, however, is greed and power. The vaxx is a cash cow, and by forcing it on society while holding people hostage in a variety of ways, a precedent is established that enables the same thing to be done repeatedly in the future. Globalists want the ability to force medicate the population with whatever they want, up to and including gene therapy to reengineer the species as they see fit. They're playing the long game.

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In light of all the lies and the cruel measures taken against the sensibly-unvaxxed, I find greed an insufficient explanation.

Not sure if you are a man of faith, John, but I am. And I sense something tremendously evil going on.

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I am not inclined to throw around the term “evil,” but I, too, have arrived at that conclusion. The “smoke of satan” is everywhere.

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I agree. There is so much more to this than just greed. If you are talking about transhumanism in reengineering the species, then you are talking about spiritual warfare. Satan's plan for the human species versus God's plan. But take heart, God wins, always. Still we have to go through this warfare, and most likely it will be across two or three generations before we see God win. Nevertheless, pick your side and persevere.

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Great comment. This show is just getting underway, I suspect.

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John Henry, this is ultimately the camp into which I fall.

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Hang in there, Mrhounddog. Prepare and pray. That's all we can do.

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Maybe the cruelty is a way to convince themselves and the public thay it’s not about greed but morality? A defense mechanism. The unvaxxed must be purged to make the greedy feel they’re on a Holy mission, otherwise they might feel guilt. The vaxxers project their own evil onto those that see through them.

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Could be. It sure seems like a religious cult. This time they've injected the Kool-Aid.

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1) As long as you keep doing what you started doing, you haven't failed and as such have no culpability.

1) Any failure means you have done it the wrong way, and not enough too.

The above is a very dangerous trap, and any system where the person making the deicision doesn't face immediate and personal - permanent - costs is prone to degerating into the above bear trap.

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What I don't understand is that the the government is totally OK with tax paying productive citizens dropping dead. Everyone knows why people are dropping dead, but no one in the government is doing anything about it, except recommend the thing that is killing people.

At the same time, the government (at least in the US) is letting in millions of non-tax payers who don't speak the language or have a job and giving them benefits. And THEY do not need to be injected.

Seems to me that they're eliminating one population and actively replacing it with another. But you can't say that on certain blogs, that's just crazy.

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I think what they are replacing is the citizen class. Citizens have rights and entitlements, and can vote. Illegal aliens are still technically illegal here. They can't legally vote, have no entitlements, and can be deported if they ever try to stand up for their rights. The oligarchs and their clients will retain their citizenship rights as the only political actors, and the rest of the population will be effectively slaves, serfs, or disposables.

Taxes are only needed on citizens, who have rights. But now, the patron-client class will own everything, and the illegals will work for rent on whatever land the owners allow them to live on.

We've lived for over two hundred years in a democratic/republican system in which we are citizens, with rights. But that all depends on each citizen household being economically self-sufficient, and therefore socio-politically independent. That produces the balance of power that is necessary to preserve rights. But over the past decades, we have become increasingly dependent on government and corporations, and we have let some people become too rich and too powerful. Now the super-rich are buying up all the lines of power in both government and commerce, and using them against us to take away what power and independence we have. Killing off the citizens with poisons we are required to take, teaching us contempt of ourselves, our culture, and our history, while importing millions of foreigners illegally to replace us with rightless non-citizens, is all part of the same power play.

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Really interesting point SnowinTheWind, and I think you're correct. They're eliminating citizens and replacing them with what... serfs? Slaves?

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Yes, either. I believe "serf" is from Latin 'servus', which is generally translated as "slave". Either way, they would make some kind of arrangement: room and board for work under command (slave); or a plot of land to farm for rent or labor for the landowner (serf); or whatever. Either way, they will own nothing, and have no say in political decisions. I guess that's kind of the WEF objective.

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Plausible, certainly. Revolutions and changes of the guard in the halls of power has always come from the disgruntled middle-classes using the working classes as cannon fodder and excuse, while the power classes have always used the lowest class - the Lumpenproletariat - as their eminently disposable cause célèbre and shock troops rolled into one. (Using marxist terminology here, it seems fitting as the power play you describe seems derived from that theory of history and economics.)

So getting rid of the troublesome part of the middle classes while fomenting racial, cultural and religious discord and creating a plethora of small groups all clamouring for their special status and thus unable to unite against their real oppressors and profiteers is quite rational if you are in power, believes in societal development as a progressive linear process, and adheres to the capitalist creed of greed (putting profit over people, both in the sense of humans and as your own tribe of people).

Also, in the event that there actually are consciously though out plans and plots - why needs there be one Grand Master plan with devious conspirators? Isn't it much more plausible that there are oodles of plans due to lots of intersecting power structures, and even ore actors, all of them pursuing what they perceive as th most rational way to achieve success, and thereby occasionally as with Covid/vaccines acting in concert, while at other times (Russian oil&gas money, Germany/Austria, and the US oil cartels) being in opposition?

Note: I don't mean to imply that you personally is engaging in conspiracy theories, not in any pejorative sense certainly. Just adding on a couple of thoughts since you blazed the trail as they say.

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I'm not actually a Marxist, but more of an evolutionary ecologist in my thinking. I believe Marx was on the right track in terms of seeing economic (i.e. ecological) factors, rather than belief systems or great men, as the general driving dynamic of history, and for his recognition of competitive economic divisions within society as opposed to the one-happy-nation ideal of racialists and nationalists. But his political polemic led him to roll self-serving notions of objective value into his framework, which invidiously corrupted the science of society and history he was trying to create. Some Marxist terms and insights are useful though, if not carried to absolutist extremes.

I completely agree that we are all actors in our own right, and that there may be many different plans rather than just one Master Plan. The three elements I raised though-- vax-covidianism, woke, and welcoming illegal immigrants-- all seem to be coming down from a few super-billionaires of WEF, and all seem specifically designed to destroy the current citizenry and replace them with rightless people who can be exploited or disposed of without recourse. That seems to me to reflect a single objective shared by a small set of powerful people, and if that is a conspiracy theory, then so be it.

People downstream from the principle conspirators may be quite clueless, and likely go along because vectors of finance and influence from those at the top make it worth their while.

On the other hand, there are probably oodles of other plans by other actors in play as well, and we should not fall into the funk of supposing the WEF-ers to be all-powerful. But there has been a drastic change over the past few years. Formerly, we in the West enjoyed governments based on economically independent citizens with rights, rights that could largely be enforced because there was a granular balance of power among the people. Now, the power of the citizens is shattered, but their old government still exists and has become the tool of the oligarchs.

Our democracy/republic is practically dead. Going forward, it will be a titanic struggle among the oligarchs who have bought up our institutions, for supreme power. Our own politics will be reduced to attaching ourselves to one or another of these oligarchs. There will be no political nuance to find common ground, and we will have little individually to say in setting the political agenda.

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This is exactly on point. Customers and employees of implacable monopolies, with no choice but to work and buy from the oligarchs, and therefore no rights in any meaningful sense.

There's almost certainly a degree to which an industrial economy makes this sort of maximally vertically integrated system inevitable. Insofar as technology sets the parameters for social organization, things like 3D printing might end up sending things back towards a more distributed political system via enabling of household industries and therefore self-sufficience.

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Considering that uptake has been highest amongst the bugman/laptop/middle management/Bullshit Jobs class, I'd dispute that productive citizens are the main ones being lost here.

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Hi Shibumi, first of all, you're assuming those in power (dems) are intelligent. They are not! Look at all the idiotic crap they're doing! The woke agenda, defund police, the border crisis, cancel culture, they elected a brain dead empty suit AKA BRANDON. They already have shown they don't care about taxpayer money, they just keep printing more! Oh , and I forgot about climate change (another economy destroying agenda) it's all about staying in power! But the good thing is,they(dems) always overreach,and over play their hand. This midterm and 2024 election hopefully (voter fraud) will change things. If not we're in deep doo doo! God bless the USA ,WE SURE NEED IT!!!!!

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Hi Porge, I'm assuming that all of the bad things that the Democrats are doing are intentional. They don't have to worry about elections because, as Xiden has said, "we have the most extensive voter fraud organization out there." I think they are destroying the USA intentionally and most of the part of Rs are sitting by, watching it happen.

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Valid point my friend! So what's our plan folks? I'm exhausted by these last 2.5 yrs. I'm old and tired but not willing to give up! I have 2 adult children and 4 grandkids under age 10. I'm worried for them. How do we break through to our "woke " young generation, for they hold our future hostage. When I was young I didn't pay much attention to politics and such,but all these kids nowadays just want to sit in their parents basement and play video games or be influencers (whatever that means) on social media. Thank God my grandkids aren't allowed that stuff YET! I keep faith that my daughters will keep their children on the right path.

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We used to say, "If it doesn't work, beat your head. If that doesn't work, beat it harder. If that doesn't work, beat it faster."

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For a long while they have been the gatekeepers of what even qualifies as "data", e.g., 97% of scientists believe in climate change, so it is natural that when the institutions charged with data collection and analysis have subverted their own ability to conjure narrative support out of the "science" by their various inversions and abstractions of reality, that the only card left is to make sure the likes of some online feline skewering and roasting their own data supplies can never happen. See also: FBI crime statistics and reporting. See also, anything collected by the department of education, DHS/Border Patrol, Bureau of Labor Stats, US Census and could go on all day.

Data from the admin State comes and goes only insofar as it is necessary to propagate, shape, and pivot the Narrative. We are all in this together, two weeks..., diversity is our greatest strength. All FACT by "data". Don't believe your lying eyes.

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Please sign my petition…

I started this petition to allow non-vaccinated individuals into the US. Please sign and share with all your friends! https://chng.it/bDBLbyLnZT [+ tag your pals here and ask them to tag more people!]

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Don't need a petition. There's PLENTY of nonvaccinated folks crossing into the US as we speak. Just ask Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. They can't catch them all!

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John, are you using "mystery juice" as a euphemism for mutant juice?

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Mutant juice is another lovely descriptor.

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Even rabidly pro-vaxers (like my mom) are understanding that this is happening. She had a "covid scare" a few weeks ago (she's double boosted) due to an "exposure". Now, my 79 yo aunt, who is double boosted and immune compromised due to a prolonged chemo course for stage 4 ovarian cancer has tested positive. My mom is "very worried" (as she should be) -- and suddenly no mention of "thank God she's boosted." The women in my family are extraordinarily long-lived and healthy -- my grandmother was 106 1/2 when she died, and had only been in assisted living 6 months. Her mother lived to 92 with diabetes -- but I find I now have a constant low-level anxiety about my mom and aunt because of these stupid jabs. At least every email doesn't end in "and I DO wish you'd get vaccinated" anymore.

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Do you send them Vit C and Ivermectin for Christmas and birthdays? There is some hope that the spikes can be suppressed.

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And yet, the CDC continues to triple down on the get vaxxed/boosted message. I don't think they will EVER admit that it's not working. It will always be the fault of those who did not comply, whether it's for the initial series or for the nth booster.

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Yep because without all those jabs it would be worse! Somehow.

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Just like Africa.

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Ignore all of them. Do not comply and do not force others to comply.

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I think we also have to consider that the high vaxxed states have a higher concentration of pussies who are more likely to go to the hospital over a case of the sniffles.

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That’s exactly what I was thinking. Perhaps there is a strong correlation between vaxxed folks going to the hospital vs unvaxxed not going. Can’t measure that in a meaningful way.

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I think you’re onto something, John & Tennislady. Everyone I know who is unvax’d is avoiding doctors & hospitals like…er…the plague. I had CV-pneumonia in Dec 2021-Jan 2022 & was really sick, home 02 for 2 of the 4 weeks I was out. But my biggest fear, usually in the middle of the night, was that I would have to be hospitalized & if that happened, they’d kill me w/ Remisdevir or vent. I came out of it w/out getting hospitalized but I was really scared

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…” Everyone I know who is unvax’d is avoiding doctors & hospitals like…er…the plague.” 🎯

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Good point. In areas with lower cultvax uptake there is likely some skepticism of the medical industry that has mushroomed into something between total distrust and animosity. Some states like TN don't offer Medicaid outside of certain conditions. So general access to care, access to "free" care, the % of uninsured, and a culture of self-reliance plus understandable distrust is likely to produce a lot of downward pressure on medical visits.

Of course, with that you would think there would be an uptick in total mortality for untreated or late-treated illness resulting in higher general mortality, albeit with a difficult to discern time lag. Then again, as you fear, the medical industry - even before covid, was a leading killer behind only cancer and heart disease or somesuch. Seems they are giving the big deaths a run for #1.

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Agree, deep skepticism now, although I also work in the medical malpractice defense field so I know what you mean about the medical industry before all this skullduggery.

I live in a red pocket of a corrupt, blue, 1 party state so there are @ least some sensible people where I live (although most of my co-workers & friends are working on their 4th jabs!).

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You and I sound similarly situated Cindi. The lack of reasoning and logical thought on the part of lawyers has been extremely distressing.

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Hi NAB, in a law office of 10 lawyers & 8 support staff, all but 1-2 of the lawyers are vax’d & only 1 of the support staff is. One of the senior attys told us it was “the law” when our “governor” mandated (w/out legislative input or passage of a real law to that effect) masks indoors last year. The same one also said ivermectin - that won a Nobel prize in like 2015 - was poison. Stunned that people who are supposed to be “the smart set” w/ advanced education, supposed critical thinking skills & research skills can be so stupid. They tried to make indoor masking a “thing” @ the office & the support staff just openly refused / defied & they finally backed down, after walking around the office for some weeks w/ masks 🤡

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Wow. Sorry you went through that. I do agree with you re: unvaxxed not wanting to go to the hospital. We seem to be well read on what works and doesn’t. What causes harm and doesn’t. I wouldn’t go to the hospital now unless I needed stitches. I think they get that right 😂

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🤣

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I am not sure that it matters if the hospitalization rate is measuring people actually admitted (i.e. spend at least 24 hours in a ward). People who just show up with the sniffles, wait forever, are seen by a doctor and then go home don't seem to be counted as hospitalized anyway.

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I think it matters. I would rather see ICU or deaths instead of just hospitalizations. I think that’s more meaningful. But I have no idea how the data compares state yo state. El Gato seems to get these things right so I trust him. Just would love more data.

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I think we would all love more data! :)

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Does a doctor need to send you to the hospital? Other than the ER.

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Not this ' Pussie'!!! Lol.

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Could Tennessee be an outlier because of people moving in from blue states? I am curious about the size of population changes in these states. Is it large enough to effect the comparison of 2021 vs. 2022

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it would be interesting to see it broken down by cities in tennessee. nashville has many more transplants and is relatively more liberal (music industry) than the other cities.

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Tennessee does have an obesity/smoking problem.

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it's like groundhog day

good thing someone enjoys crunching data :)

EDIT: I did a thing.

https://themariachiyears.substack.com/p/of-groundhogs-and-gatos

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In my small local hospital in Michigan, our COVID numbers were low over the last few months, just a couple of cases, and we even had some days last week when there were zero COVID hospitalizations. The few hospitalizations were almost exclusively vaccinated; I think there was only one vaccinated inpatient in the last month or so. Then last week it went from 2 vaccinated to 4 vaccinated on Friday. On Monday, there were 7, and guess what? They no longer classify inpatients by vaccination status, after all these months of breaking them out! I believe they know that the numbers are not going to look good for the vaccine pushers who make up the hospital administration and most of the medical staff.

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That exposes a complete lack of integrity among the administration. That's what got this freight train rolling and, by stifling damning information, it will keep it barreling ahead, allowing the miscreants to force more poisonous injections on the innocent.

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Please be their huckleberry.

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Major hospitals are/have been burying the vaccinated status information:

"In the other, larger, major (and I mean major) health system she worked in, if the patient received the vaccine from anywhere but an employed provider’s clinic within the health system (even if the patient had a vaccine card on them), she was forced to put it in an “open field” buried on page 2 of the initial nursing assessment where nobody, and certainly no physician looked for it. All these patients were automatically documented on the main screen as “Unknown”, i.e “Unvaccinated”, even if the dates of each shot were entered into that nursing note field."

Source: https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/nursing-reports-from-the-front-lines

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Also they sneakily change their definition of unvaccinated to people without boosters if it suits them. I also think a large number of unvaccinated dying in hospital are actually very ill old people who are too sick to be vaccinated. All scare tactics

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Going to the hospital is a death sentence. Nobody dies of the virus HOME and ALONE.

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It's entirely bizarre that this math even has to be done at all. Think about where we started vs. Where we now:

Started: vaccines make you a dead end for the virus. You can't get it, you certainly won't be hospitalized and you definitely won't die.

Where we are: vaccinated make up the majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

And we're still fiddling with the data as if WE have something to prove. We've let them move the goalposts so far that we're now playing an entirely different game. We have to hold them to the original standard.

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Depressing to see what I regard as certainly too high as percentages for "lowest vaccinated." I myself am living in an extremely highly-vaccinated area of a lower vaccinated rate (63.3%) state. I just looked at vaccinated status for hospitalizations statewide:

Unvaccinated: 13.3% (as of 7/11)

Vaccinations fully up to date: 32.2% (as of 7/11)

Vaccinations partially up to date: 23.3% (as of 7/11)

Unknown: 31.1% (as of 7/11)

You'd think that would tell them something...

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Any idea if that "unvaccinated" contingent is all genuinely uninjected?

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No; I took that info from the publicly-available stats.

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And the state where I live, WA is doubling down on "mandating" jabs and boosters for state employees. To help kill off people more quickly they are trying to breech our power producing dams to "save the salmon". The upside-down world is alive and well in WEF run WA.

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The irony is that these States may be killing off their own administrative state. The WEF doesn't care as along as they reach their Agenda 2030 reset.

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Yeah until you recall that not all (cdc) were actually really required to jab.

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