The proposed law still contains a medical exemption. Also it requires proof of vaccination at the "first admission" to a school so those already in high school are effectively exempt unless they change schools.
I'm in CA and this law is terrible. The author Senator Pan is typical know-it-all scumbag pediatrician, a pharma shill, and loves telling others how they must raise their kids. We can't wait to get out of the state and away from his ilk. Fortunately our kids are both in a Christian High School already and the principal has made clear the school will engage in civil disobedience for those who object on religious grounds, and will file a lawsuit.
Assuming this passes it's likely there will be lots of phony vax cards submitted as schools don't have the resources or authority to check them. Either that or kids just wont show up for school. I'd estimate probably a third of parents just will not comply.
"...it's likely there will be lots of phony vax cards submitted as schools don't have the resources or authority to check them." Don't bet on it. Schools routinely send goons to homes to root out false residency claims. Tyrants will always find the resources to stay in power, regardless of authority to do so.
Try joining the “vaxcontrolgroup.com” a UK group that is taking all unvaxxed and even considering taking vaxx’d participants. Join and for about 20 UK pound Sterling you can have a family membership.
They will remind you each month to fill out your health report and return it by email to them with your health conditions for the month. They are essentially doing what Pfizer and Moderna should have done. They have 300,000 now and are
Going for over 1,000,000 or more. Groups are forming around the world.
If you wish - for the 20 Sterling you can have a photo ID with the statement
“Must not be vaxx’d as participant in Control group”
Newscum also has a plan to forcibly detain and medicate the homeless. Now, they SAY it's b/c currently, 25% of the homeless population is mentally ill. But I'm just thinking ahead here, to, you know, climate "emergencies" and "mandated" evacuations, which equals a whole new slew of homeless peeps.... Just sayin'.... it is TIME TO GET OUT.
The "mentally ill" have been abused in the name of "treatment" for centuries. If I had to choose between homeless and incarceration in a psych hospital, I know how I would choose. "Mentally ill" doesn't eliminate one's need for bodily autonomy.
She didn't say that explicitly... but she did indicate that she - the CDC director - gets information about the vaccine efficacy from CNN. And that no one said anything about the vaccine waning, or that it might be less effective against new variants. See for yourself: https://vimeo.com/685247414
It's been nine months, I'm surprised it took that long. ^^ Besides, whatever it was, I'm sure we've heard worse since then! Have a great day, Kittykat. *pats*
Your assumptions for why flu is supposedly high risk for the elderly are wrong. Advanced age is heavily confounded by lifestyle factors, which means the effect of immunosenescence is being overestimated by basically all doctors and scientists. Old age often correlates with poor diet, lack of movement, no exercise, malnutrition, deficiencies, no sun exposure, low protein, low salt diets, the use of multiple prescription drugs, having comorbidities, etc. All of that has a negative impact on the different parts and the entire immune system. This is why we could see healthy elderly barely being affected by respiratory infections (incl. SARS-CoV-2) in some countries, while in other places, they were dropping like flies, particularly when it comes to nursing homes. Japan is a perfect example, where the impact of SARS-CoV-2 and/or flu has been minimal in the last few years, despite Japan having 36 million people over 65 and having the oldest population globally. People who claim that age is a risk factor in a causal fashion when it comes to the impact of SARS-CoV-2 are clueless, which unfortunately includes many top and prominent voices, including doctors and scientists on our side.
i think you have misunderstood and are also misascribing the lack of covid deaths by region.
antigenic fixation is a significant part of age dependent flu risk. the factors you cite are why generalized immunity fades. this can be compensated for by specific b cell immune memory. but when that memory works against you, you get the double whammy. you seem to be trying to presume that i am arguing that OAS is the ONLY reason age adds flu risk. i am not. it is one of the reasons. this is why flu risk runs like a bell curve. kids are all generalized response. the elderly are nearly all antibody driven. the middle are both which is why healthy adults so rarely die of flu.
most of the COV resistance in part of the world was driven not by the lifestyle issue you cite but rather from prior resistance stemming from exposure to sars like viruses. this is why they all saw much bigger surges from delta/omi than original all over the pac rim. (they also count covid deaths VERY differently and do not use the western definition of "death with" but rather "death from as proximate cause" so direct comparability is fraught.
age was clearly less an issue in covid than comorbidity and i have argued such many times.
but this has been a given everywhere for a long time and does not obviate OAS as an issue. there is a reason that certain flus rip through certain age groups preferentially.
also, you're ignoring just straight senescence which does play a large role.
am 85 year old with no comorbidities has a covid population fatality ratio similar to that of a 50 year old with comorbidities. but it's still a risk 10X higher than a 50 year old that similarly lacks comorbidities.
you're looking only at a partial picture and arguing by straw man.
Again, my post is all about overestimating risk solely based on age. This is the only issue I had here. Also, just because someone doesn't have comorbidity listed on paper and is not taking prescription drugs to manage them, it doesn't mean that the person is healthy. There are lots of people who never go to a doctor or take any prescription meds, even though they have some ongoing health issues or diseases present. If you are not looking for something, you won't find it. If you have something, some health issue, but it isn't manifesting itself in a sufficient manner to really bother you, you won't get tested and treated. This is one of the many examples where your math and assumptions can be flawed, can mislead you, and you won't be able to spot this. Just because someone appears to be healthy on paper, it doesn't mean the person is healthy or doesn't have issues that impact their immune function and diseases susceptibility. There are lots of people living in suboptimal health, and they never know it, they are just getting used to how they perform and feel in their day-to-day lives. Senescence's role is once again being overestimated here because you can't see the big picture. This is what happens when people operate from a false premise, and they don't even know it. Aging is real, no one is questioning that. Over time, the body becomes less efficient, accumulates wear and tear, requires better maintenance, higher quality nutrition for proper function, etc. The only issue here is that people overestimate its role and impact, which later leads to false statements and assumptions, as presented here.
Damn... I do not attack or question anything you have said about OAS, including your previous posts on that topic, except for one very specific point mentioned here. I was very specific what I was referring to in the first sentence, and these kinds of assumptions are still being freely thrown around, used, and relied on. To put it in one sentence, risk factors based solely on age are vastly overestimated. It just bothers me to see it being mentioned repeatedly without understanding the deeper context of aging and why the elderly are usually more prone to respiratory infections and more serious impacts from them.
to similarly respond in one sentence, you appear to be ignoring the cross correlation of senescence and manifested risk factors that evolve from senescence.
sure, it's not the whole picture. no one said it was. that seems a straw man in terms of this claim: "Your assumptions for why flu is supposedly high risk for the elderly are wrong."
i think it is your read of my assumptions that are wrong. i never claimed it was the ONLY reason. i claimed it was A reason. (hence my claim that you misunderstood my point) the issues you raise are simply the substrate upon which OAS is overlaid.
ceteris paribus, age is still a risk factor. it's ~100X for covid at 85 vs 25 even with no comorbidities. and the very fact of senesce is a cause of such comorbid risk factors, so the two interact in non-independent fashion.
this seems like some sort of hot button for you.
perhaps before making aggressive claims and "taking offense" you might instead seek more productive engagement. you seem oddly aggrieved here for one who has been taking by far the more aggressive tone. go back and read it again. you may not be coming off in the manner in which you intend.
Again, I'm picking on a single argument that you have made. That's all. I haven't commented on anything else that was included in your post or in your other posts where OAS and other things are mentioned. I simply have no other issues with your data, reasoning, and interpretation on those things. Age being a significant risk factor or a causal factor is what I have issue with... because this is simply not true, DESPITE what data is showing you. It only appears that way because of a multitude of confounders that directly relate to advanced age. It just happened that today, you were one repeating it, if someone else had made the same comment, I would have left the same response to it.
You seem to not want to grasp the argument that is being made.
I can see why many will refuse to consider that the author may have hit on a truth - if this is correct then:
1. It is without a doubt intentional
2. We are looking at what is likely an extinction event (see Marek's)
I have been saying this is what we are facing for 2 years now - ever since I worked out that Covid was a massive lie. Men like Bossche and Montagnier and now the author of this blog have simply exposed the mechanism for exterminating humans.
Nobody wants to believe everyone they know is being put down.
Here's the reason (I suspect few will accept this as well - but the supporting evidence I am referencing is strong):
COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table --- throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover --- and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice --- one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies --- and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone --- we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome - From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
If you have a large pool of hosts that all have the same fixation, then you have a large number of individual labs in which to have such a mutation occur. You have far more hosts in which to have random chances occur, all selecting for a mutation that attacks one specific weakness and that weakness is in most of the population, so once it’s out, there is no stopping it. And if this fixation prevents the hosts from developing strong new immunities based on these novel pathogens, this becomes iterative. you get wave after wave of pandemics until you wipe out the susceptible population. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/homogenizing-herd-level-antigenic
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
We have centuries of oil left. If our "global warming" enthusiasts had allowed some of the resources that were pissed away on windmills to investigate nuclear fusion, we would have had an excellent intermediate energy solution to last humanity for millennia. A windmill does not lower the "carbon footprint" because it only converts coal power to wind power. If it actually PRODUCED power, it would not be so expensive or require subsidies and feed-in tariffs.
Wind can never replace fossil fuels because it is not energy-dense enough.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
Fully agree that a theory that the cabalists are offing us out of mercy for the pending shortage of fuel can’t be true. As you say, Dr. Yeadon, too much abject cruelty of the past 3 years & ongoing is the proof
the Africans are definitely not on board. Maybe due to Gates and others using them for guinea pigs. India has different policies in different states, but seems to fully embrace ivermectin, as do many others. China and Russia both produced their own attenuated virus vax for covid, which should produce a classic vaccine response. Places where malaria is found have regular annual use of ivermectin, and the lowest covid cases and deaths.
Dear Fast Eddy, Thank you for collecting all those links. I can see that you struggle to be heard at times and have tried to be thorough.
I pretty much agree with you, cheap energy has driven population growth to a point that it is directly dependent on cheap energy. Fossil reserves as you realise are more than energy reserves and will be impossible to completely replace even with free energy. This has been my contention for promoting reduction of fossil energy even if I am still on the fence about humans being able to affect global CO2 levels significantly.
The very dangerous reliance on energy to prop up global population and hoping that science will invent new cheap energy is a very big gamble given the downside if the gamble fails.
Most nitrogenous fertiliser is made from natural gas since the thousands of years of stored guano were mined out in a few decades. The simple embargo on Russian fertiliser will have ripple effects that comparatively few are even thinking of.
The large investment houses also have a monopoly on magnesium fertilisers after the Dead Sea salt works was sold to competitors.
Humanity is going to have to downscale and fast and those who resist will suffer more.
"...Most nitrogenous fertiliser is made from natural gas..." I read many years ago that 40% of all human flesh walking at that point was created from nitrogen fertilizer
I've disputed your citations about peak oil in precious rebuttals and won't do it again. Technology has always saved us from those assessments. As fossil fuels become more expensive we have alternatives that can be used, many not even known today. We have only just begun to tap solar energy in ways that Meinel in the late 60's couldn't have anticipated in his designs for Sodium storage. Some efforts will need the climate Luddites that refuse to allow any alternatives to their chosen ones to bear fruit.
Just as we have always been running out of food the war in eastasia will continue.
While oil has many other important uses (lubrication, plastics, roadways, roofing) this section considers only its use as an energy source. The CMO is a powerful means of understanding the difficulty of replacing oil energy by other sources. SRI International chemist Ripudaman Malhotra, working with Crane and colleague Ed Kinderman, used it to describe the looming energy crisis in sobering terms.[13] Malhotra illustrates the problem of producing one CMO energy that we currently derive from oil each year from five different alternative sources. Installing capacity to produce 1 CMO per year requires long and significant development.
Allowing fifty years to develop the requisite capacity, 1 CMO of energy per year could be produced by any one of these developments:
4 Three Gorges Dams,[14] developed each year for 50 years, or
52 nuclear power plants,[15] developed each year for 50 years, or
104 coal-fired power plants,[16] developed each year for 50 years, or
32,850 wind turbines,[17][18] developed each year for 50 years, or
91,250,000 rooftop solar photovoltaic panels[19] developed each year for 50 years
The world consumes approximately 3 CMO annually from all sources. The table [10] shows the small contribution from alternative energies in 2006.
“To provide most of our power through renewables would take hundreds of times the amount of rare earth metals that we are mining today,” according to Thomas Graedel at the Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies. So renewable energy resources like windmills and solar PV can not ever replace fossil fuels, there’s not enough of many essential minerals to scale this technology up. http://energyskeptic.com/2014/high-tech-cannot-last-rare-earth-metals/
Renewable energy 'simply won't work': Top Google engineers
Two highly qualified Google engineers who have spent years studying and trying to improve renewable energy technology have stated quite bluntly that whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.
Both men are Stanford PhDs, Ross Koningstein having trained in aerospace engineering and David Fork in applied physics. These aren't guys who fiddle about with websites or data analytics or "technology" of that sort: they are real engineers who understand difficult maths and physics, and top-bracket even among that distinguished company.
Even if one were to electrify all of transport, industry, heating and so on, so much renewable generation and balancing/storage equipment would be needed to power it that astronomical new requirements for steel, concrete, copper, glass, carbon fibre, neodymium, shipping and haulage etc etc would appear.
All these things are made using mammoth amounts of energy: far from achieving massive energy savings, which most plans for a renewables future rely on implicitly, we would wind up needing far more energy, which would mean even more vast renewables farms – and even more materials and energy to make and maintain them and so on. The scale of the building would be like nothing ever attempted by the human race.
In reality, well before any such stage was reached, energy would become horrifyingly expensive – which means that everything would become horrifyingly expensive (even the present well-under-one-per-cent renewables level in the UK has pushed up utility bills very considerably).
The $2.5 trillion reason we can’t rely on batteries to store energy
Fluctuating solar and wind power require lots of energy storage, and lithium-ion batteries seem like the obvious choice—but they are far too expensive to play a major role.
Why Germany’s nuclear phaseout is leading to more coal burning
Between 2011 and 2015 Germany will open 10.7 GW of new coal fired power stations. This is more new coal coal capacity than was constructed in the entire two decades after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The expected annual electricity production of these power stations will far exceed that of existing solar panels and will be approximately the same as that of Germany’s existing solar panels and wind turbines combined. Solar panels and wind turbines however have expected life spans of no more than 25 years. Coal power plants typically last 50 years or longer. At best you could call the recent developments in Germany’s electricity sector contradictory. https://carboncounter.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/why-germanys-nuclear-phaseout-is-leading-to-more-coal-burning/
Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables
Even as Germany adds lots of wind and solar power to the electric grid, the country’s carbon emissions are rising. Will the rest of the world learn from its lesson? After years of declines, Germany’s carbon emissions rose slightly in 2015, largely because the country produces much more electricity than it needs. That’s happening because even if there are times when renewables can supply nearly all of the electricity on the grid, the variability of those sources forces Germany to keep other power plants running. And in Germany, which is phasing out its nuclear plants, those other plants primarily burn dirty coal. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601514/germany-runs-up-against-the-limits-of-renewables/
Blues for the Greenies: Now matter how many greenbacks the government throws at “green” energy, everyone ends up feeling blue. Yesterday the Wall Street Journal updated the story we’ve been covering for a long time now about the dismal performance of the Brightsource solar energy array in the California desert: High Tech Solar Projects Fail to Deliver - $2.2 Billion California Project Generates 40% of Expected Electricity http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/06/more-blues-for-the-greens.php
Solar – After Hundreds of Billions of Dollars of Subsidies and R&D and this is what we get?
To me, the largest drawback on these systems must be that they are cooled by highly flammable liquid sodium. When I was a kid growing up in a suburb of Detroit in 1966, they had a near catastrophe at the nearby Fermi fast breeder reactor that was sodium cooled. A small piece of metal broke off internally and partially blocked a coolant tube. We have wasted fortunes on solar and wind, and created mountains of unrecyclable parts, and the money would have been better spent on refining the designs of nuclear facilities.
We agree renewables are never likely to replace energy needs. Nuclear can and will once the anti-nuclear fools get out of the way. Smaller, mass produced reactor units are likely the way once we decide to make them. While more expensive in kWhr/$ metrics are reconsidered given other advantages, they offer a way past the overuse of fossil energy reserving it for critical applications. All of that assumes that nations develop rational energy policy not dominated by the climate mafia.
The EV of the future is much more likely to be based on Hydrogen with an awful lot of needed new technology. As you note we are nowhere near the ability to produce high density batteries for all those dream EVs that the government promotes. Utility scale batteries are a different proposition because they don't require the energy density. An interesting future involves home solar with those type of batteries.
As I note technology has always defeated Mathusian concepts and will continue to do so given past history.
Just because you don't like the fact that the science indicates that the injected are almost certainly going to die by the billion -- and that his will collapse the global supply chain - and take us down the toilet with them (you are unvaxxed?).....
Doesn't mean you have to fling shit everywhere....
We see the medium term future similarly, I expect. Potentially (even likely) pretty awful is an understatement.
We disagree only on the underlying motives for the long planned & deliberate mass killing.
I wonder if you have built a better case than you otherwise might because if you can’t do it, then the motive isn’t physical / practical / political etc.
I've actually been expecting something like this since not long after GFC so not really building a case. I knew we were doomed long ago and have been behaving accordingly since having that epiphany
And yes I think we agree --- this will end very badly. It has the potential to end with 8B humans ripping each other to pieces and literally eating each other.
Remember, it’s a two way street for mammals and viruses. We need each other to survive. Without one, the other would instantly disappear. As human population has significantly increased over the last 100 years viruses have been keeping pace.
One other factor not discussed in this excellent diatribe is historical exposure to similar viruses. Some old people already have memory cell immunity that also assists “the herd” in reaching the same survival coverage. Viruses also know that and then they do their own mutating as a training tool.
Don’t forget, as an example, we all have active Polio is in our gut biome. Someone/something is helping us out in keeping that modulated moderated. Is it viruses? Fungus? Bacteria? Parasites? A combo? Likely, yes.
We’ll have to learn to roll with the punches......even if man screws around playing mix and match/gain of function. Consider it another straw on the backs of all mammals in an effort to continue forward.
What truly drives disease susceptibility is an individual's health status and the robustness of his own immune system. This, in return, depends on your diet, protein intake, and micronutrient stores in the body, which allows for proper regulation, proper function, and proper response of the immune system against pathogens. Even people who theoretically never encountered SARS-CoV-2 or other HCoVs (not possible) are immune in a practical sense because a strong and healthy immune system is precisely designed to protect you against new pathogens and new mutations. It is designed to learn, adapt and respond to changes and conditions in its environment. One thing that has been omitted entirely from this conversation is why children and young people have no problems with this virus. The reason for that is simple. It is much easier to fulfill your body's nutritional requirements when you are in a development stage (low bodyweight) and when you are primed for stress, adaptations, and interactions with the environment around you. Kids and young people also have much more active lifestyles, which include movement, exercise, and sun exposure. And yes, this is as simple as that. If it weren't so simple, then no animal on this planet would reach adulthood / old age, as they would be constantly being consumed by "diseases" and pathogens.
Obesity is a comorbidity for more than just viruses...a lot of folks who are obese are on multiple medications for multiple health problems and obesity is a real issue in many countries and then adding the whole 'fat acceptance' movement is pure insanity.
That's an interesting take. A bunch of my female coworkers call it body positivity, I guess cause they are very overweight and want to make it sound better. They also, rightly, have anti-corporatist sentiments. I am eager to toss your hypothesis their way.
My daughter is naturally super thin and, since adolescence, has been ridiculed for it (she is now 33). Obese people totally get a pass these days. I'm sick of their bitching.
Correct. Obesity generally impairs the function of the immune system and even access to some stored nutrients like vitamin d, but here is a catch. There can be two obese persons, but one can be healthy with a properly working immune system, and the other one unhealthy with a dysfunctional one. One can be insulin resistant and on its way to diabetes, the other can have functional fat stores, which does not significantly impact health, even if they appear to be on the fluffier side.
Yes! And note thin people can also be (and are) metabolically ill.
I heard Dr. Robert Lustig say 40% of normal weight people has the same metabolic diseases obese people has (that figure is 80% among the obese population).
It kind of seems like you're arguing that a person who maintains good health and nutrition will have a great immune system until the day they die. I find that highly unlikely, cellular aging is a reality no matter how well we try to live.
Yes, and no. Let me explain. Aging is real, no one is questioning that. Over time, the body becomes less efficient, accumulates wear and tear, requires better maintenance, higher quality nutrition for proper function, etc. In the short term, think human lifespan, you can maintain good health, vitality, mobility, and immune function up to a certain point, and yes, you can get there with lifestyle and nutrition. Plenty of healthy or relatively healthy and highly active elderly populations can be found around the world. None of which are ravaged by either the diseases of civilization or infectious diseases. We refer to it as healthy and graceful aging. Ask yourself this, why some elderly populations are healthier than others and live longer as a result? Luck? Genetics? Or something else?
Of course, you cannot cheat the maximum cellular clock that your body possesses. But on the other hand, how do you think that happened that homo sapiens can live up to 120 years old while other primates cannot? Other primates' lifespan ranges from 20 to 45 years. Why is that? Magic? Why do some mammals have a similar lifespan to humans, and some exceed it, even to 200+ years? What is the reason for that? The answer starts with lifestyle and nutrition, which influences cellular repair, maintenance, recycling mechanisms amongst hundreds of different biochemical processes. Do you think that our species always had a lifespan setpoint at ~120 years? Or maybe we somehow got there during the long-term evolutionary timeframes? How did we get there? With nutrition and thriving as a species. Nutrition is what drives the entire immune system. In fact, it drives our entire biological machinery, including regulation, proper function, and proper response of the immune system against both viral and bacterial infections. Although we cannot extend our lifespan significantly, we can impact our cellular clock in the short term, and if the same behavior is to be repeated by further generations, the lifespan of our species will be extended. But for it to happen, we need to provide our bodies and biological machinery with everything it needs to keep proper function and to maintain health as long as possible. The species simply needs to thrive from a health and nutritional standpoint for that to happen. One caveat, though. We need to do all of this in a reproductive timeframe, so all the changes, adaptations, and optimizations are passed onto the next generations. This is the only logical explanation, an Ockham's razor which most traditionally "trained" and "educated" people do not understand. This is why el gato malo is wrong in his assumptions about aging, senescence, and risk stratification based on age. This is where math fails people like him because they do not understand that their data is incomplete (garbage in), leading them to false conclusions (garbage out). Everyone ignores lifestyle and nutrition when it is literally the deciding factor in immune function, influencing disease susceptibility, impact, severity, survivability, healthy aging, and lifespan. What is even worse, people have no idea what health is and what healthy foods and healthy nutrition are for our species. But that is for another talk...
Interesting article - I need to spend more time reading it to grasp all the points! What you say about lifestyle is so true. Obviously, we all have some genetic luck - or not maybe - but there's no doubt ageing can be slowed by lifestyle choices. People need to know how to attend to this problem, but you cannot thrust this information down people's throats and tell them what to do. It should start in schools. (More important than all the current 'education' about the social rights of minority groups!) Much of the problem stems from the food industries, many of which are totally corrupt and out to make maximum profits. ( Book - The Big Fat Lie - about fats and the food industry. Well written with an analysis of the American food industry and why people got fat - lots of parallels with vaccines and drug companies). Many people are reluctant to take charge of their own health too. They just want a magic pill to take when they get sick, -this attitude was prevalent regarding the Covid vaccines - but it doesn't work like that. It takes time and effort to be healthy with a strong immune system being part of the equation. To eat well, exercise, get proper sleep and avoid stress takes time. As one ages it can take more time. For me it's the only approach - and you need to start as early as possible - why would I want to spend the last twenty years of my life in a sick, unhealthy state? For many people, the problems can only be approached little by little. Poorer sections of society will struggle more with those principles too. It's much easier to have a good diet when you have enough money. Our health services generally do not approach things from a lifestyle angle, although that is improving slowly. Doctors have very little training or knowledge about food and nutrition either. The problems are actually immense.
What about George Soros? I have reliable information that he lives on Doritos, pizza, donuts and Coca Cola... apparently he's done a deal with the Devil that will see him live to 130. In return he has to do the Devil's work
Well, there're two things here. (1) I wouldn't call his conclusion "wrong," so much as "incomplete." He may very well be right that OAS plays a role in why new variants affect the elderly. And (2) when you start comparing the effect of COVID in other countries, you need pages and pages of footnotes, such as how they counted COVID cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, how healthy the population was to begin with, what their health care system is like (ours is lousy by the way, not Italian lousy but definitely far behind that of Japan), and what their "mitigation" strategies were (or weren't). You can't just compare one factor.
Japan very early on was demonstrating competencies we have still not embraced. They performed tissue examinations to get results they published, on where the LNP ended up by tissue type, and alerted everyone to the proclivity for it to go to ovaries and bone marrow. They examined the contents of vials and found large contaminations, and returned 1.5 million doses to the manufacturer. They suspended their vax program and made ivermectin freely available. The Asians already had a cultural norm to stay home if ill, and mask if you had to go out with sniffles or cough; the only time they are useful. Many places still embrace daily shopping for the evening meal, so their ingredients are high quality and very fresh.
These lifestyle factors are applying younger and younger. I work with kids at karate school. Over the 20 years I have done this, I see more autoimmune, more aches and pains, more fatigue - and far less attention, than kids 20 years ago.
I take offense when people spread and rely on pseudoscience, that's all. Even if these people are on the side of #TeamReality. This notion that age is a risk factor (implied causality) has been going on since the pandemic started, and it has been complete nonsense from the start and is still being parroted by the likes of Kulldorff, Bhattacharya, Malone, Ioannidis, McCullough, et al.
see above. this is largely argument by straw man and limiting the look to a partial picture especially as senescence and comorbidities correlate no just from behavior but as actually second order effects of senescence.
this seems an oddly strident tone to take given how much you're leaving out.
Time is too short to engage with people who will never 'get it'... no matter how simplified and powerful your argument is.
You expanded upon the warnings of Bossche -- adding to the thesis - and explaining it in a way that most people can understand (Bossche writes for other scientists so much of what he says loses the average person).
Alas some will not understand the danger we are in no matter how it is presented.
See my replies. You are operating from a false premise, based on the wrong assumptions, over-reliance on math (risk stratification), and incomplete data, which leads you to wrong conclusions... and you simply cannot see it. Keep in mind this is a very minor (in a sense) and very specific point that I'm "attacking" in your analysis. And it is quite funny when I'm being accused of looking only at the partial picture when this is exactly my argument against you, which is a false premise & false assumptions >>> inability of seeing the big picture here.
interestingly enough, i feel this same way about you and your claims to "take offense."
clearly, comorbidity is an issue, but you seem to ignore cross correlation to senescence etc. as thought the two are somehow independent variables. they are not.
you made this specific claim:
"Your assumptions for why flu is supposedly high risk for the elderly are wrong. Advanced age is heavily confounded by lifestyle factors, which means the effect of immunosenescence is being overestimated by basically all doctors and scientists."
and it is neither particularly accurate except from a certain angle nor particularly germane.
clearly, covid risk amplifies greatly with age even with zero comorbidities.
Again, you are making assumptions. You simply don't understand that someone with advanced age with 3 or 4 comorbidities can shake off the infection without problems, while a person with no comorbidities and 30-40 years younger can be at higher risk and have severe problems. Or why healthy elderly can shake it off while deficient, malnourished, starved, dehydrated ones in care homes can start dropping like flies when infected. You don't understand that data you rely on is filled with so many confounders that this is not even funny. I already explained both the confounders of aging and your flawed reliance on comorbidity data in previous posts. This is a perfect example of garbage-in, garbage-out, but you simply cannot see this. I do not negate the fact that risk amplifies with age, but not to a significant or impactful extent like you and others are claiming, what I'm saying is that age is not a causal factor when it comes to disease susceptibility and risk for severe outcomes or death. And it is neither a major risk factor, despite what data is showing you. It is all about the health status of the individual and how well his immune system functions. This, in return, is driven by nutrition, which drives not only immune function but our entire biochemistry. The only reason why you see a significant risk increase with age in available data is due to confounders, which you are either ignoring or are completely unaware of. If you look and compare both healthy vs. unhealthy populations, you will see a significant risk correlation with age on one side, but you won't see it either at all or to the same and substantial degree on the other.
I would call it simplification not pseudoscience. But older people having weaker immune systems in general is a thing. You’re picking at the individual pieces of why but they matter less to me than the holistic reality. Not all kids are safe. The big majority of old people were never doomed. But on planet sized problems generalizations are critical in communicating with even doctors. We spent decades telling people that only barriers work for HIV and that lambskin has tiny holes that virus can get through but now that a tee shirt will be the difference between life and death.
I think age is mainly a risk factor because as most age they start to medicate more, and that's after a lifetime of not taking care of themselves. Of course we've been given the wrong information about health all along, avoid the sun, avoid meat, saturated fat, eat polyunsaturates. Talk to your doctor about everything health related although they don't even study most health issues in school.
I would like to see the concept of chronic inflammation considered. It is not just related to age, it has a lot to do with gut health. In general, the Japanese diet is less inflammation-inducing, which I am sure plays a part in their resilience.
According to family in Illinois, the governor proposed legislation that would allow him to compile lists of vaccinated and unvaccinated citizens. Why would he need that if the pandemic is winding down? Clearly, he is getting ready for Stage 2.
The people behind these vaccines are not stupid. They know what they are doing, a point made over and over again by Dr. Yeadon. This is deliberate. Keep in mind that first you must destroy existing systems before you can "Build Back Better." The human rights abuses that we endured these last 2 years will seem mild if/when (Bill Gates promises "when.") the next round gets underway.
They already snuck funding in for a federal gov't employee vaccine resister list as well, handled by some obscure office in DC that normally does trial prep services.
Well then thank the fuck I'm in WA state. Crazy Inzlee has been consistently voted down when the totalitarian hardware gets mentioned. I grew up in IL, love it but I don't love Chicago and it's lovely gift to mankind. Then again, you got Pritzkers. Have fun with the transhuman pervert and his relatives.
You managed -- if "find in page" is correct -- to write this entire column without mentioning the name "Marek's", yet somehow a picture of chickens snuck in. Isn't the big issue there not just that the virus variant was selected for evading the vaccine, but that it also came to be much more fatal?
i left it out on purpose because that's a far from forgone conclusion.
i think we WERE seeing just that sort of vaccine mediated virulence increase in delta.
but omi went the other way and become far less severe. that is the natural "desire" of a virus driven by evolutionary necessity. killing the host is severely maladaptive and selected strongly against.
you really only get that sort of inverted gradient when you have non sterilizing vaccines with meaningful partial efficacy.
if you get far enough outside them that efficacy is basically gone, the evo gradient reverts to normal and you go back to selecting for lower, not higher virulence.
and my base prior is that this will dominate and that delta was a transitory interstitial.
>> that is the natural "desire" of a virus driven by evolutionary necessity. killing the host is severely maladaptive and selected strongly against.
>>you really only get that sort of inverted gradient when you have non sterilizing vaccines with meaningful partial efficacy.
My understanding of Marek's (disclaimer that people are not chickens and this discussion is not necessarily analogous but the principles of viral evolution are still the same) is that it is a scary example of OAS precisely because vaccinated birds live LONG ENOUGH to go to market, not to a ripe old age.
You're right that it's a fundamental principle that viruses (metaphorically speaking) don't "want" to kill their hosts. But they don't "care" if the host dies AFTER serving as an incubator and transmitter. That's long enough.
My understanding of OAS is that it's so dangerous precisely BECAUSE if a virus develops mutations that give it phenomenal transmissibility, the window within which it's strategically bad for the host to die can be a lot shorter, because we don't need it for very long.
Which means that deadliness ISN'T being selected out along normal patterns.
Which should obviate an extinction level event for the unvaccinated, while the vaccinated are likely in serious trouble, and have started dying in higher numbers. SCI stock price has been rising.
Thinking more about your above comment, Guttermouth, the first time I realized that natural selection of species doesn't guarantee that we live much past reproductive age, just long enough to see the kids on their way, was chilling. Yet nature is kind enough to give us twice that long usually. Kind of like viruses that could as you say, kill off individuals when they're done with us, but usually don't. Peaceful symbiosis is likely more tenable for viruses also than outright slaughter.
It really is important to remember things like this when we mildly anthropomorphize viral behavior and other biological phenomena that behave like epidemics.
There's a caveat to your broader philosophical point, though, even if it doesn't affect our current discussion: big-brained mammals (including some non-primates) live well beyond childrearing age and most biologists and anthropologists that study this have identified strong evolutionary advantages, FOR THOSE SPECIES, in having "useless eaters" stay around long after replicating genes to protect and support children and grandchildren (among other useful purposes to the broader community):
But yes, in terms of how animals interact with other animals that make them sick or kill them, the gold standard is simply reaching the age of reproduction. The organism doesn't need quality of life or long life for its death to not endanger the species.
Humans facing a Marek's-style inversion of COVID evolution won't have that luxury. Our lifespans, length of pregnancy, and length of childrearing are incompatible with a purely ruthlessly-efficient killer. It would be mass extinction.
I thought I had read that the Omicron strain lineage goes back farther than the original alpha strain. My question is how can Omicron be referred as a variant of alpha or delta when it predates them, wouldn’t it be the other way around?
The issue of where Omicron came from seems to me to be the one hole in an otherwise compelling thesis: "you saw how quickly omicron chased the vaccination campaigns. my strong suspicion is that this was not a coincidence. it was driven BY the selective pressure of the vaccines that took what looks to be a throwback variant that did not evolve from delta but rather diverged from it all the way back at the original pre-alpha ancestor and surged it to sudden global prominence." I'm not aware of any evidence demonstrating that Omicron evolved. It seems far more likely to be a lab product than the result of selection.
Suggesting that might be the outcome would frighten people.
They prefer to believe that this is about making money - or control. Even though both theories are patently ridiculous. But both theories leave room for hope of a future.
To acknowledge a Marek's type outcome -- acknowledges the intent to commit mass murder - and destroys all hope of there being a future.
I remember 10+ years ago when I realized where we were heading mentioning this to one of my brothers - he said 'they will not allow that to happen' ...'they will do something about it'
Well ya... they obviously cannot replenish the oil fields... but they are doing something about it..... as they should.
8B people with no food or electricity is a recipe for mass murder, rape and cannibalism
The other option is 8B vicious predators without food, electricity etc...
Think about what happens if the PTB fail in exterminating us before the lights go off. There won't be 911 when the bad guys show up looking for food - or a bit of forced action.
If you read your history children were favoured during famines. See the famine that took place after the Russian revolution. Cannibalism was wide spread
Mutual nuclear destruction, depopulation via jab & resource depletion & what that portends are all viable. But human nature & human spirit have gotten us to today - for worse AND better.
Nemesis is an ancient concept & just rewards for the hubris, arrogance, ignorance, idiocy & incompetence of our tyrannical “betters”. Whether I live to see it or not, therein lies MY hope.
I must reject your theories of inevitability & hopelessness (otherwise, why don’t we all just kill ourselves now & be done w/ it) and certainly that the depopulation agenda is benevolent or merciful, much less that THEY have the right to choose anything for anyone else.
And should your dystopian scenario come true & I’m alive to see it, I’ll hope to take out as many of the marauders as I can & then put a bullet in my own head before the breach. The timing & manner of death will be my own.
Interestingly ... a mate of mine who works up in Hong Kong said something similar when I briefed him on the CEP.... to which I responded -- that is exactly why they are putting us down before 'mad max' breaks out.
The veneer of civilization strips off quickly when we don't have our cushy fossil fuel powered lives and we are faced with trying to survive... the predator inside every one of us will emerge and he won't be pleasant.
No more - g'day Bob --- well g'day to you Jim... no more of that ... it's more like... bullet to the head of Bob.. take his food... rape his wife... and when the food runs out roast his wife and kids...
The Road (the book is more graphic) is a reasonable depiction of what this will look like ... but it does leave out the initial mayhem that results in most of the 8B slaughtering each other
It really is both kind and wise of our masters to exterminate us before the lights go out and the orgy of violence gets underway. If anyone thinks otherwise -- think of the most vile criminals you have ever seen - maybe a biker gang... maybe some really nasty individuals you have seen in a news program or a prison documentary.... that's the sort - and worse - that will be on the loose. And there will be no police or military to oppose them.
And it will be like that till you are dead... there will be no reset.
Oh and did I mention that there are 4000 spent fuel ponds that left unmanaged will boil and expose their toxic fuel - and that will spew poison into the air and water for literally centuries?
“ South East Asian countries are experiencing their deadliest Covid waves to date despite the milder Omicron variant being dominant and high vaccination rates.”
Perhaps I am just a dismissive skeptic. But I suspect, if you had access to the true case and fatality rates, you'd find that "deadly" means that 8 per million are dying, up from perhaps 6 per million previously. All this with the usual disclaimer that Covid-19 severely affects and kills almost exclusively the very old and/or with chronic serious conditions. Oh yes, the usual failings of tests, disease diagnosis and incentives to fudge statistics. In other words, it's all bullshit until proven otherwise.
Yeah, that's a Fox Butterfield for you. (Readers familiar with James Taranto's "Best of the Web Today" column from back in the day will recognize that reference.)
James Freeman's good, but he's no Taranto. I only subscribed to the WSJ when I could get the $1/3 months online deals, and even then, it was just to read the BOTWT column. I was in the FOBOTWT Facebook group almost from its inception, since around 2009 IIRC, but I deleted FB from my life last June and I haven't looked back.
Fox Butterfield call your office. Fox Butterfield could not be reached for comment. I blame George W. Bush. "Best of the Web" was MUST read for me every day. Damn, I miss it. Really broke my heart when the WSJ went behind a paywall.
Thank you! It's been so long I couldn't remember how he put it!
FWIW, you can occasionally find a $1/month for 3 months or similar deals online with the WSJ. That's how I got through the paywall so I could read his BOTWT column. I was also part of the closed FB group "Fans Of Best Of The Web Today", and the column would be posted to our group regularly, so that was another way around the paywall.
People believe a tee shirt blocks an airborne virus and you think they will understand Marek’s? Who would take them in if they could afford to flee and understood they should?
I know you're not implying this in your comment, but this line of thinking gave me a twitch of anger for all the covidians I got into arguments with about why there were mass exoduses from harsh, draconian blue cities and states to the least restrictive locations. The cultists would invariably insist that they were all "fleeing COVID" and not attempting to escape a miserable lifestyle under public health rule.
We are leaving because the value of staying has dropped too low for too long while we hoped for the good things to come back and they show few signs of returning. Social spending is skyrocketing with crime and taxes for the privilege of living in ground zero of the next plague or wave or variant that will justify even more foolishness. NYC’s word used to be “money” now it’s “fear”.
They are too brainwashed and have lost access to the ability to be logical or pragmatic. You might as well argue with a five year old who believes unicorns are real. It’s tragic.
I was in NYC for the pandemic and lots of true blues (even AOC eventually) headed for the sunny freedoms. Even moving there where the Blue Plague will continue to spread there.
Marek's isn't fatal to the flock if the flock is vaccinated. The birds live long enough to be slaughtered (which in industry birds is as quick as 4-8 weeks) so a shortened lifespan from the virus doesn't factor in.
The issue with Marek's as it applies to chickens is that unvaccinated birds die (or are doomed) basically instantly because the virus is so hot and infectious.
Yep, it was always the worst case scenario for the unvaccinated. That we would be forced to take it because the others all blindly did. However, I'm hoping OAS is happening and I'm not wishing death on others, simply that the virus weakens and maybe, just maybe, many of those vaccinated can get their bodies to relearn natural immunity. I'm wondering what will it take to even educate these folks with the oil prices and war in Ukraine- are they even paying any attention?
This article is quite prescient for me because it's incubation season and I just lost a stunning number of chicks that I ordered pre-hatched to what was obviously a virus (identical care conditions to other breeds I was simultaneously hatching rather than ordering pre-hatched).
All but 4 or 24 dropped dead within three days.
However, I deliberately keep a heterogeneous flock (2-3 breeds from rotating sources) so no other birds were even slightly ill.
It was shocking. It was the first time we'd ordered pre-hatched chicks shipped to us. They were from a fairly local source in-state so I felt comfortable with the transit and standards for shipping livestock are actually really good in this country (thank the Grange for that). But it was obviously something that happened in handling- either this batch was completely overlooked for vaccination (unlikely) or it was their pre-shipping environment.
Needless to say I won't be doing pre-hatched again unless I'm physically inspecting them and picking them up myself next time. Our incubation rates are excellent (80%+) anyway so it really was a "let's try this because it's less of a hassle."
But yeah, I felt very bad for the little guys and gals. It was very sad literally seeing a pile of little yellow bodies every morning and not be able to do a damn thing about it.
The four survivors are full-grown at this point and doing very well, though! (They're Leghorn-Rhode crosses, for the record).
Wait till we see all the millions of humans dying... that will ensure we self isolate -- we won't even venture out to hunt a child for dinner...
We'll lock our doors and starve. Which is another key component of the CEP... frightened people do not kill and cannibalize... they wait to die..
Keeps the mayhem to a minimum
COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table --- throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover --- and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice --- one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies --- and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone --- we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome - From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
If you have a large pool of hosts that all have the same fixation, then you have a large number of individual labs in which to have such a mutation occur. You have far more hosts in which to have random chances occur, all selecting for a mutation that attacks one specific weakness and that weakness is in most of the population, so once it’s out, there is no stopping it. And if this fixation prevents the hosts from developing strong new immunities based on these novel pathogens, this becomes iterative. you get wave after wave of pandemics until you wipe out the susceptible population. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/homogenizing-herd-level-antigenic
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
You know, as terrifying as the picture you just painted is......... it makes far more sense than a bunch of elitists just killing off the masses for the sake of profits. Profit, in & of itself, never made that much sense. I mean, they have so much money, what is the point to more? And I'm not sure that the average elitist even gives a second thought to most of us down here at the bottom of the ladder, as long as they have their creature comforts. Perhaps I am naïve.......... I had heard whispers elsewhere of a mini ice age approaching & that the global push to reduce population was based around salvaging food. Perhaps it's all of the above.........
It wasn't spraddle leg- I'd have caught that quickly. I've treated that before and you're right, it's easily resolved. There were no outward symptoms- they simply quickly weakened and died. If they hadn't been isolated from my other birds I would probably have done testing afterwards, but the issue seems to have died with them.
I've had a weird chick season too. Both have made it so far- I bought them after overhearing a convo between 2 employees how this batch was doing so much better than the last one. I want a rooster and some banties and do this meself.
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table --- throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover --- and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice --- one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies --- and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone --- we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome - From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
If you have a large pool of hosts that all have the same fixation, then you have a large number of individual labs in which to have such a mutation occur. You have far more hosts in which to have random chances occur, all selecting for a mutation that attacks one specific weakness and that weakness is in most of the population, so once it’s out, there is no stopping it. And if this fixation prevents the hosts from developing strong new immunities based on these novel pathogens, this becomes iterative. you get wave after wave of pandemics until you wipe out the susceptible population. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/homogenizing-herd-level-antigenic
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
An incredibly contagious mutation --- that is deadly to both the vaxxed and unvaxxed.
COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table --- throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover --- and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice --- one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies --- and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone --- we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome - From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
If you have a large pool of hosts that all have the same fixation, then you have a large number of individual labs in which to have such a mutation occur. You have far more hosts in which to have random chances occur, all selecting for a mutation that attacks one specific weakness and that weakness is in most of the population, so once it’s out, there is no stopping it. And if this fixation prevents the hosts from developing strong new immunities based on these novel pathogens, this becomes iterative. you get wave after wave of pandemics until you wipe out the susceptible population. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/homogenizing-herd-level-antigenic
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
The PTB understand all of this and that is WHY every leader is on board with the Injections. There is NO way out of this --- so they have decided to mitigate the suffering as much as possible by putting us down and here is the mechanism
I think mucosal immunity saves everyone from mutating covid. Vax probably has not affected this aspect of immunity and mucosa is where virus replicates.
In terms of peak oil, I think we are currently seeing the manifestation of realization. Russia and China will control eastern hemisphere and US will control western. Use what resources you have. Lots of starvation and freezing but human nature not amenable to engineered solution; may cause more carnage than chaotic organically derived solutions.
Wow, I have to say you are brilliant, but you are not exactly a ray of sunshine. What is an old fart like me to do to try and protect my kids and grandkids from what is coming? Can that huge brain of yours see any hope anywhere?
Sorry to say - the only hope that I have is that we are extinguished with the least amount of suffering. Spend what time is left with your family.
In a way this situation can result in inner peace -- embrace the fact that any troubles you have will soon be gone. And in the meantime, reduce any stress you may have by realizing it really does not matter
And a huge positive is that we would normally die alone (unless you happen to be in an airliner that crashes into a mountain!) -- so it's no doubt a bit of a lonely and sad experience -- sad why? - cuz you are leaving everyone behind. But hey - everyone is going on the magic bus over the cliff with you --- so happy times! -- you don't miss out on anything cuz there wont be anything or anyone to miss out on.
Haha.... no it's as dark as it gets (that's why almost nobody is wiling to consider that I may be correct).
The CEP has evolved over a 12+ year period. It started soon after the GFC... recall how everyone was calling Bernanke stupid/corrupt/incompetent?
Initially I blamed him and the financial institutions for GFC... and thought they were fools.
But then I reconsidered when I watched a documentary on the GFC and old school mortgage operators were saying it normally takes a month or so to approve a mortgage - but these new outfits were approving them on the spot - it forced his hand - he had to match them or he's have no business.
Then there was the discussion of Liar Loans... and I'm sitting their thinking --- one of the primary rules of finance is do not loan money if you don't think you are going to get paid back. Anyone think the honchos were not aware of Liar Loans?
That sent me down the rabbit hole -- why would the banks 'burn their houses down' Why would they allow -- or better still why would they want - Liar Loans? Obviously that was always going to end in tears.
They are not stupid or corrupt or incompetent --- so why do this? Then I thought ... to do this you must fear something really horrifying...
What do they fear???
I spent many hours trying to figure this out - and then one late night in a hotel in Edinburgh -- I stumbled across the Perfect Storm paper
I suggest reading from p 59 and if that gets your attention read it all:
The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel
In a nutshell - we were running out of affordable oil --- expensive oil kills growth -- do the PTB just sit back and watch the system collapse? Or do they try to offset the collapse in growth caused by high oil prices (remember $147 oil just prior to GFC)...
Of course it makes sense to mitigate -- with stimulus --- you drop interest rates -- you pump up the housing market (a hot housing market drives the economy -- people need stuff to put in all those houses)... etc etc...
I spent hours reading and digesting Perfect Storm and had an aha moment ... not a aha I've discovered electricity moment ... more aha - we are f789ed moment.
It took me a long time to get to sleep...
Soon after that I pretty much retired (I was 43 - sold off one business in Asia - and handed over the day to day to another person in the other business) and my wife and I spent the next decade (right up until Covid hit) on major bucket list trips... 4 multi month trips per year.
I tried to alert a few mates to the situation but of course they dismissed me as a chicken little. Amusingly one of them said to me last year - you know - when we get through this Covid thing I am going to come off the gas a bit and spend more time outside work.
I didn't say anything ... but I was thinking ... it's too late for that.
We are not going back to 2019.... this is ... and I have zero doubt about it --- literally - the end of days....
Thank you for taking the time to respond. One thing I like about Substack is that brilliant people are willing to share their knowledge with those of us who are less gifted / less able to put all these puzzle pieces together. I have learned one thing, and that is to believe the exact opposite of what the MSM wants me to believe.
I have taken "The Crash Course" over at PeakProsperity.com over a decade ago so I understand the importance of Peak Cheap Energy. Also, I have spent some time over at SuspicousObservers YouTube Channel. I share the belief of Suspicious/Observers that cyclical, near extinction level events, are visited upon Earth every 12,000 years or so. I believe another is going to hit us in a few decades, and that the PTB know this and have built their massive underground "hidey holes" in an attempt to escape what is coming. What they don't want is a bunch of "useless eaters" interfering with their escape when the time comes. They don't want the masses trying to blast their way in when they finally realize what is afoot. Easier to thin our numbers dramatically now, so we are less of a threat later. I might be all wet with this theory, but like you, I concluded a while back the only reason smart people continue play a game that they know is unsustainable is that they know "something" big is going to change all the rules of everything in the very near future. Therefore they continue to dance while music is playing, perhaps in part for their own amusement, and perhaps in part so the masses stay distracted until their fate is sealed.
Go out to your car. Put the key in the ignition but do not crank it. Pump the gas 50-100 times. Then try to start the car. Oops you flooded it. If you do manage to start the car, it will sputter and destroy the valves. Repeat the flooding process. Try to start the car again. Now the car is ruined. I am sorry to oversimplify but I am in a reductionist mood this morning.
I know we are not cars, but that is the mentality of people we are trying to reach.
My company just mandated boosters for all employees and guests. Insane timing given that everyone else is moving the opposite direction. Any ideas on how to push back on this?
Yes. Hi all. Greetings from South Africa. Mass non-compliance is the best way to fight this, and connecting with like minded colleagues is crucial to support each other. Make Telegram group for your colleagues, and start connecting. I manage to reach over 300 of my colleagues. In our group almost no one caved in. Week after the vaxx deadline the company had to give up. Too many employees to fire
1. Quit (pros: you show incredible bravery; cons: you lose your job that pays you and feeds your dependents).
2. Voice your opinion (pros: you show incredible bravery and prove yourself to be principled; cons: it's not likely any of the brainwashed fools pushing this nonsense in the first place will listen, and you likely lose your job that pays you and feeds your dependents.)
3. Forge the documents (pros: you get all the "benefits" of the "vaxxed" with none of the side effect risks; cons: you can get caught and you'll be fired, and you are not staying true to your principles.)
I have had good success with 2 and 3 in the situations this has arisen for me. Fortunately, it was not in situations where the majority of my income was put at risk, so option 3 didn't pose much financial risk if I got caught, just reputational, but the reputational risk would have been similar had I done 1 or 2, so that is why I chose door #3.
A shit situation for you--I will continue to pray that this nonsense comes to an end and people's freedoms are returned.
You have to look at it this way: A job is replaceable. I know it doesn't seem so in the here and now, but it is. There may be some pain to come, but it won't be forever.
But once you put that vax in your arm, there is no going back. It is permanent. You can't change your mind. For me personally, that is all I need to know to say NO.
The other took one jab and has something seriously wrong with his heart - he has not been diagnosed yet.
Like I said - this cannot last forever... eventually enough people will say no to the endless boosters and it all falls apart. Be patient... Vax injuries are often permanent
End of the day I agree with the plan -- just as every leader on the planet agrees.
Yes it sucks to be exterminated -- but the alternative - Ripping of Faces (ROF) is worse...
Why do I bother participating in the discussion? It's not about the end game rather it is about logic... and based on the paradigm that the CovIDIOTS are following -- they are illogical ... so this is more like a game for me --- a logic game... and it's great fun to taunt CovIDIOTS... using logic.
Ultimately I don't care if people inject or don't inject... it's all about the logic of injecting... there is none... so I enjoy taunting them
As for mates... and family - I don't want them to inject because of the vax injury risk... I want them to be around till the end ... we can pop some popcorn and have and end of the world party... I don't want them to be in wheelchairs.. or dead
It passes the time as we await the End Game ... and extinction.
Right, but that’s why I said it may not matter. I know some states had some rumblings about not awarding unemployment to people who were fired as a result of not complying with the mandates, but I am not sure whether that ended up being the case and if so, what states are adhering to that. Regardless, I still don’t see any upside in quitting. Heard many stories of people whose work tried to force jabs and when push came to shove, they didn’t end up following through.
The fact is that all of this is on some pretty murky legal grounds and I think a lot of companies aren’t really sure how things are going to turn out. So many just want to be able to say that they tried to have a fully vaccinated staff but are unwilling to go as far as firing people, in the event of future lawsuits.
Some personal advice, based upon your user name. I grew up in Northern Virginia. The region certainly has (had?) its plusses: good jobs, above-average amenities, etc. Real estate tends to do extremely well. The home I lived in 50 years ago has increased in value about 15 times (paper money value). But consider the following: my own Dad (long dead) retired also exactly fifty years ago. Even in the early 70s he was appalled at what had happened to the area and the government he used to work for. He spent the rest of his life in rural VA. I myself moved from the area twenty years ago never to return. You've probably got a high-paying job, a family, a shoddily built home allegedly worth $500K and a long commute. Worth it? Maybe. But you may wish to give some thought to what the future may hold.
I ask my wife to move EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. My five year old comes home on every cold day and says, "Mommy, do you know where it isn't cold? FLORIDA!" We are "fortunate" to be in the Zoom class, and the plan is to hightail it to more friendly places (TN, FL, SC, TX) in the next few years without the risk of having to change careers. Our children are currently young, and we have both sets of grandparents here to assist with free babysitting and hugs. As the kids age, the need to stay will dwindle, and we should be able to make a decent profit off the townhouse we are in now.
Are you in Ffx County? The one currently suing to keep masks on our kids? My kid is one of 3 or 4 unmasked in his class. The principal walks around OUTSIDE at carpool time with a mask on. It feels like the Twilight Zone.
Yes--both of mine are under age 5, and the youngest is just now turning 1, so he hasn't been in masks. My oldest has been since she turned 4 last year, and I have been fighting them weekly since Youngkin passed the EO. They finally made it optional last week, but I'd say only about 20% of her classmates are maskless (although this probably varies throughout the day as 4 year olds aren't exactly very reliable in their 'safety' practices). They are still making parents and staff mask. We are moving the 4 year old to a catholic school next year for PreK where it has been optional for some time.
Catholic is a good choice. My other child is in a secular private school STILL MASKED, as the parental choice law applies only to public. I can’t believe they outlasted even FCPS.
I have some relatives who live in TN; it's pretty nice if you stay out of Nashville city proper (and probably Memphis, too, though I have no first-hand reports--just thinking on the city-bigger-than-a-certain-size aspect.)
#3 is obviously the best option if you can't quit, and don't want to be an experiment. I suspect that many many people around the world have taken this option. That's why so few people are actually protesting....they got a hook-up.
I think someone needs to remind these companies that the OSHA rule holding them legally responsible for vaccine injuries was not repealed. OSHA merely said they were not going to enforce it for now. If the administration changes that rule may be enforced again-- companies would be held liable for vaccine injuries of vaccines they mandated. That opens a world of hurt for them.
Good point. A negligence lawsuit would be no fun. And a good lawyer could point out to these dummies that if there is not a state or federal requirement to mandate the vaccine, then they are truly doing it completely on their own initiative.
IF the job is "worth" it -- call their bluff, wait until the last minute, tell them you are waiting for the "new" Omicron booster, request a medical and/or religious accommodation. Hire a lawyer. Plan to sue if denied. Get ready to file with EEOC. OR...move to Florida. See Jeff Childer's substack for more info on religious accommodations AND Florida.
I’ve seen people (mostly students at universities in the same situation) claim religious awakening since their first shot(s) and they cannot get boosted. This is on the individual level, though, not advice on how to push back against the policy overall.
Medical exemptions are working, but religious exemptions are stronger, with less invasion of your medical private info, as well as stronger support from the courts and the Constitution. Any "sincerely held religious belief," per SCOTUS, such as for example the sanctity of the body, not wanting aborted fetal tissue developed product in the body, etc.
“We were too hopeful this Wouldn’t happen
Nobody ever mentioned OAS”
—Walensky ..sometime in the fall
Really comforting she gets all her information from CNN.
and California prepping to require COVID vax for ALL kids with ELIMINATION ALL EXEMPTIONS... pending SB 871.
The proposed law still contains a medical exemption. Also it requires proof of vaccination at the "first admission" to a school so those already in high school are effectively exempt unless they change schools.
I'm in CA and this law is terrible. The author Senator Pan is typical know-it-all scumbag pediatrician, a pharma shill, and loves telling others how they must raise their kids. We can't wait to get out of the state and away from his ilk. Fortunately our kids are both in a Christian High School already and the principal has made clear the school will engage in civil disobedience for those who object on religious grounds, and will file a lawsuit.
Assuming this passes it's likely there will be lots of phony vax cards submitted as schools don't have the resources or authority to check them. Either that or kids just wont show up for school. I'd estimate probably a third of parents just will not comply.
"...it's likely there will be lots of phony vax cards submitted as schools don't have the resources or authority to check them." Don't bet on it. Schools routinely send goons to homes to root out false residency claims. Tyrants will always find the resources to stay in power, regardless of authority to do so.
Try joining the “vaxcontrolgroup.com” a UK group that is taking all unvaxxed and even considering taking vaxx’d participants. Join and for about 20 UK pound Sterling you can have a family membership.
They will remind you each month to fill out your health report and return it by email to them with your health conditions for the month. They are essentially doing what Pfizer and Moderna should have done. They have 300,000 now and are
Going for over 1,000,000 or more. Groups are forming around the world.
If you wish - for the 20 Sterling you can have a photo ID with the statement
“Must not be vaxx’d as participant in Control group”
Site is: www.//vaxcontrolgroup.com
Oh my. Well this will be an interesting experiment. My condolences if you are a resident of that state.
AB1993, Calif is going to require a jab to have a job.
Everyone still think this is about health?
Newscum also has a plan to forcibly detain and medicate the homeless. Now, they SAY it's b/c currently, 25% of the homeless population is mentally ill. But I'm just thinking ahead here, to, you know, climate "emergencies" and "mandated" evacuations, which equals a whole new slew of homeless peeps.... Just sayin'.... it is TIME TO GET OUT.
The "mentally ill" have been abused in the name of "treatment" for centuries. If I had to choose between homeless and incarceration in a psych hospital, I know how I would choose. "Mentally ill" doesn't eliminate one's need for bodily autonomy.
Wait. Did she really say no one ever mentioned OAS? Because it's literally written in the EUA!
She didn't say that explicitly... but she did indicate that she - the CDC director - gets information about the vaccine efficacy from CNN. And that no one said anything about the vaccine waning, or that it might be less effective against new variants. See for yourself: https://vimeo.com/685247414
The video has already been scrubbed.
It's been nine months, I'm surprised it took that long. ^^ Besides, whatever it was, I'm sure we've heard worse since then! Have a great day, Kittykat. *pats*
Is she that stupid??
Probably. At least Idiocracy was funny.
Boy $11B a year doesn’t go as far as
It used to! Damn inflation.
Your assumptions for why flu is supposedly high risk for the elderly are wrong. Advanced age is heavily confounded by lifestyle factors, which means the effect of immunosenescence is being overestimated by basically all doctors and scientists. Old age often correlates with poor diet, lack of movement, no exercise, malnutrition, deficiencies, no sun exposure, low protein, low salt diets, the use of multiple prescription drugs, having comorbidities, etc. All of that has a negative impact on the different parts and the entire immune system. This is why we could see healthy elderly barely being affected by respiratory infections (incl. SARS-CoV-2) in some countries, while in other places, they were dropping like flies, particularly when it comes to nursing homes. Japan is a perfect example, where the impact of SARS-CoV-2 and/or flu has been minimal in the last few years, despite Japan having 36 million people over 65 and having the oldest population globally. People who claim that age is a risk factor in a causal fashion when it comes to the impact of SARS-CoV-2 are clueless, which unfortunately includes many top and prominent voices, including doctors and scientists on our side.
i think you have misunderstood and are also misascribing the lack of covid deaths by region.
antigenic fixation is a significant part of age dependent flu risk. the factors you cite are why generalized immunity fades. this can be compensated for by specific b cell immune memory. but when that memory works against you, you get the double whammy. you seem to be trying to presume that i am arguing that OAS is the ONLY reason age adds flu risk. i am not. it is one of the reasons. this is why flu risk runs like a bell curve. kids are all generalized response. the elderly are nearly all antibody driven. the middle are both which is why healthy adults so rarely die of flu.
most of the COV resistance in part of the world was driven not by the lifestyle issue you cite but rather from prior resistance stemming from exposure to sars like viruses. this is why they all saw much bigger surges from delta/omi than original all over the pac rim. (they also count covid deaths VERY differently and do not use the western definition of "death with" but rather "death from as proximate cause" so direct comparability is fraught.
age was clearly less an issue in covid than comorbidity and i have argued such many times.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-real-public-health-crisis?s=w
but this has been a given everywhere for a long time and does not obviate OAS as an issue. there is a reason that certain flus rip through certain age groups preferentially.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC5748348/
it's a well established issue.
but we've never seen it with such homogeneity as we're seeing here.
i think you are sidestepping much of the meat of the argument.
the senescence issues you cite provide the baseline. this is layered on top.
they are mutually reinforcing, not mutually exclusive.
also, you're ignoring just straight senescence which does play a large role.
am 85 year old with no comorbidities has a covid population fatality ratio similar to that of a 50 year old with comorbidities. but it's still a risk 10X higher than a 50 year old that similarly lacks comorbidities.
you're looking only at a partial picture and arguing by straw man.
Again, my post is all about overestimating risk solely based on age. This is the only issue I had here. Also, just because someone doesn't have comorbidity listed on paper and is not taking prescription drugs to manage them, it doesn't mean that the person is healthy. There are lots of people who never go to a doctor or take any prescription meds, even though they have some ongoing health issues or diseases present. If you are not looking for something, you won't find it. If you have something, some health issue, but it isn't manifesting itself in a sufficient manner to really bother you, you won't get tested and treated. This is one of the many examples where your math and assumptions can be flawed, can mislead you, and you won't be able to spot this. Just because someone appears to be healthy on paper, it doesn't mean the person is healthy or doesn't have issues that impact their immune function and diseases susceptibility. There are lots of people living in suboptimal health, and they never know it, they are just getting used to how they perform and feel in their day-to-day lives. Senescence's role is once again being overestimated here because you can't see the big picture. This is what happens when people operate from a false premise, and they don't even know it. Aging is real, no one is questioning that. Over time, the body becomes less efficient, accumulates wear and tear, requires better maintenance, higher quality nutrition for proper function, etc. The only issue here is that people overestimate its role and impact, which later leads to false statements and assumptions, as presented here.
Damn... I do not attack or question anything you have said about OAS, including your previous posts on that topic, except for one very specific point mentioned here. I was very specific what I was referring to in the first sentence, and these kinds of assumptions are still being freely thrown around, used, and relied on. To put it in one sentence, risk factors based solely on age are vastly overestimated. It just bothers me to see it being mentioned repeatedly without understanding the deeper context of aging and why the elderly are usually more prone to respiratory infections and more serious impacts from them.
to similarly respond in one sentence, you appear to be ignoring the cross correlation of senescence and manifested risk factors that evolve from senescence.
sure, it's not the whole picture. no one said it was. that seems a straw man in terms of this claim: "Your assumptions for why flu is supposedly high risk for the elderly are wrong."
i think it is your read of my assumptions that are wrong. i never claimed it was the ONLY reason. i claimed it was A reason. (hence my claim that you misunderstood my point) the issues you raise are simply the substrate upon which OAS is overlaid.
ceteris paribus, age is still a risk factor. it's ~100X for covid at 85 vs 25 even with no comorbidities. and the very fact of senesce is a cause of such comorbid risk factors, so the two interact in non-independent fashion.
this seems like some sort of hot button for you.
perhaps before making aggressive claims and "taking offense" you might instead seek more productive engagement. you seem oddly aggrieved here for one who has been taking by far the more aggressive tone. go back and read it again. you may not be coming off in the manner in which you intend.
Again, I'm picking on a single argument that you have made. That's all. I haven't commented on anything else that was included in your post or in your other posts where OAS and other things are mentioned. I simply have no other issues with your data, reasoning, and interpretation on those things. Age being a significant risk factor or a causal factor is what I have issue with... because this is simply not true, DESPITE what data is showing you. It only appears that way because of a multitude of confounders that directly relate to advanced age. It just happened that today, you were one repeating it, if someone else had made the same comment, I would have left the same response to it.
You seem to not want to grasp the argument that is being made.
I can see why many will refuse to consider that the author may have hit on a truth - if this is correct then:
1. It is without a doubt intentional
2. We are looking at what is likely an extinction event (see Marek's)
I have been saying this is what we are facing for 2 years now - ever since I worked out that Covid was a massive lie. Men like Bossche and Montagnier and now the author of this blog have simply exposed the mechanism for exterminating humans.
Nobody wants to believe everyone they know is being put down.
Here's the reason (I suspect few will accept this as well - but the supporting evidence I am referencing is strong):
COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
Why?
Conventional Oil peaked in 2005 http://www.euanmearns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/C-Cdec141.png
Shale in 2018.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html
Shale binge has spoiled US reserves, top investor warns Financial Times. https://energyskeptic.com/2021/the-end-of-fracked-shale-oil/
Shale boss says US has passed peak oil | Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/320d09cb-8f51-4103-87d7-0dd164e1fd25
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
Our fossil fuel energy predicament, including why the correct story is rarely told https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/11/10/our-fossil-fuel-energy-predicament-including-why-the-correct-story-is-rarely-told/
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Collapse Imminent: https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/
The Illusion of Stability, the Inevitability of Collapse http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-illusion-of-stability-inevitability.html
Fed is sharply increasing the amount of help it is providing to the financial system https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/23/fed-repo-overnight-operations-level-to-increase-to-120-billion.html Banks did not trust each other - similar situation when Lehman collapsed
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table --- throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover --- and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice --- one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies --- and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone --- we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome - From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
If you have a large pool of hosts that all have the same fixation, then you have a large number of individual labs in which to have such a mutation occur. You have far more hosts in which to have random chances occur, all selecting for a mutation that attacks one specific weakness and that weakness is in most of the population, so once it’s out, there is no stopping it. And if this fixation prevents the hosts from developing strong new immunities based on these novel pathogens, this becomes iterative. you get wave after wave of pandemics until you wipe out the susceptible population. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/homogenizing-herd-level-antigenic
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
The PTB understand all of this and that is WHY every leader is on board with the Injections. There is NO way out of this --- so they have decided to mitigate the suffering as much as possible by putting us down and here is the mechanism https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/why-the-ongoing-mass-vaccination-experiment-drives-a-rapid-evolutionary-response-of-sars-cov-2.
We have centuries of oil left. If our "global warming" enthusiasts had allowed some of the resources that were pissed away on windmills to investigate nuclear fusion, we would have had an excellent intermediate energy solution to last humanity for millennia. A windmill does not lower the "carbon footprint" because it only converts coal power to wind power. If it actually PRODUCED power, it would not be so expensive or require subsidies and feed-in tariffs.
Wind can never replace fossil fuels because it is not energy-dense enough.
Global Warming is more BS.
You clearly have not read my post:
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html
Oil Discoveries are at record lows https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/icbkDFACM4iA/v2/800x-1.png
I have heard this before but not in such detail.
For avoidance of doubt, I don’t believe this holds water as the motive.
As it’s unlikely anyone will read this & it’s the “wee small hours” where I am, I’m not going to detail why I don’t buy it.
In U.K. there’s a huge amount of coal which was abandoned for claimed financial reasons. There’s been deliberate heel dragging for decades.
There’s unnecessary cruelty all around this “benevolent take down”.
The people running the scam are almost all utter lunatics who wouldn’t pee on any of us if we were on fire.
It would be useful if you could provide evidence for this assertion.
Keep in mind - we have been mining coal for 200 years or so ... eventually the accessible stuff is gonna run out...
I recommend doing some research including reading the book I recommended
Otherwise this is wishful thinking
Fully agree that a theory that the cabalists are offing us out of mercy for the pending shortage of fuel can’t be true. As you say, Dr. Yeadon, too much abject cruelty of the past 3 years & ongoing is the proof
the Africans are definitely not on board. Maybe due to Gates and others using them for guinea pigs. India has different policies in different states, but seems to fully embrace ivermectin, as do many others. China and Russia both produced their own attenuated virus vax for covid, which should produce a classic vaccine response. Places where malaria is found have regular annual use of ivermectin, and the lowest covid cases and deaths.
Dear Fast Eddy, Thank you for collecting all those links. I can see that you struggle to be heard at times and have tried to be thorough.
I pretty much agree with you, cheap energy has driven population growth to a point that it is directly dependent on cheap energy. Fossil reserves as you realise are more than energy reserves and will be impossible to completely replace even with free energy. This has been my contention for promoting reduction of fossil energy even if I am still on the fence about humans being able to affect global CO2 levels significantly.
The very dangerous reliance on energy to prop up global population and hoping that science will invent new cheap energy is a very big gamble given the downside if the gamble fails.
Most nitrogenous fertiliser is made from natural gas since the thousands of years of stored guano were mined out in a few decades. The simple embargo on Russian fertiliser will have ripple effects that comparatively few are even thinking of.
The large investment houses also have a monopoly on magnesium fertilisers after the Dead Sea salt works was sold to competitors.
Humanity is going to have to downscale and fast and those who resist will suffer more.
"...Most nitrogenous fertiliser is made from natural gas..." I read many years ago that 40% of all human flesh walking at that point was created from nitrogen fertilizer
I've disputed your citations about peak oil in precious rebuttals and won't do it again. Technology has always saved us from those assessments. As fossil fuels become more expensive we have alternatives that can be used, many not even known today. We have only just begun to tap solar energy in ways that Meinel in the late 60's couldn't have anticipated in his designs for Sodium storage. Some efforts will need the climate Luddites that refuse to allow any alternatives to their chosen ones to bear fruit.
Just as we have always been running out of food the war in eastasia will continue.
Replacement of oil by alternative sources
While oil has many other important uses (lubrication, plastics, roadways, roofing) this section considers only its use as an energy source. The CMO is a powerful means of understanding the difficulty of replacing oil energy by other sources. SRI International chemist Ripudaman Malhotra, working with Crane and colleague Ed Kinderman, used it to describe the looming energy crisis in sobering terms.[13] Malhotra illustrates the problem of producing one CMO energy that we currently derive from oil each year from five different alternative sources. Installing capacity to produce 1 CMO per year requires long and significant development.
Allowing fifty years to develop the requisite capacity, 1 CMO of energy per year could be produced by any one of these developments:
4 Three Gorges Dams,[14] developed each year for 50 years, or
52 nuclear power plants,[15] developed each year for 50 years, or
104 coal-fired power plants,[16] developed each year for 50 years, or
32,850 wind turbines,[17][18] developed each year for 50 years, or
91,250,000 rooftop solar photovoltaic panels[19] developed each year for 50 years
The world consumes approximately 3 CMO annually from all sources. The table [10] shows the small contribution from alternative energies in 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_mile_of_oil
“To provide most of our power through renewables would take hundreds of times the amount of rare earth metals that we are mining today,” according to Thomas Graedel at the Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies. So renewable energy resources like windmills and solar PV can not ever replace fossil fuels, there’s not enough of many essential minerals to scale this technology up. http://energyskeptic.com/2014/high-tech-cannot-last-rare-earth-metals/
Renewable Penetration https://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/iea-primary-energy-suppy-1973-and-2015.png
Renewable Energy’s $2.5 Trillion Problem https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611683/the-25-trillion-reason-we-cant-rely-on-batteries-to-clean-up-the-grid/
Renewable energy 'simply won't work': Top Google engineers
Two highly qualified Google engineers who have spent years studying and trying to improve renewable energy technology have stated quite bluntly that whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.
Both men are Stanford PhDs, Ross Koningstein having trained in aerospace engineering and David Fork in applied physics. These aren't guys who fiddle about with websites or data analytics or "technology" of that sort: they are real engineers who understand difficult maths and physics, and top-bracket even among that distinguished company.
Even if one were to electrify all of transport, industry, heating and so on, so much renewable generation and balancing/storage equipment would be needed to power it that astronomical new requirements for steel, concrete, copper, glass, carbon fibre, neodymium, shipping and haulage etc etc would appear.
All these things are made using mammoth amounts of energy: far from achieving massive energy savings, which most plans for a renewables future rely on implicitly, we would wind up needing far more energy, which would mean even more vast renewables farms – and even more materials and energy to make and maintain them and so on. The scale of the building would be like nothing ever attempted by the human race.
In reality, well before any such stage was reached, energy would become horrifyingly expensive – which means that everything would become horrifyingly expensive (even the present well-under-one-per-cent renewables level in the UK has pushed up utility bills very considerably).
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_energy_simply_wont_work_google_renewables_engineers/
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/23/google-gives-up-on-green-tech-investment-initiative-rec/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/25/top-11-problems-plaguing-solar-and-wind-power/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/high-costs-and-errors-of-german-transition-to-renewable-energy-a-920288.html
The $2.5 trillion reason we can’t rely on batteries to store energy
Fluctuating solar and wind power require lots of energy storage, and lithium-ion batteries seem like the obvious choice—but they are far too expensive to play a major role.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611683/the-25-trillion-reason-we-cant-rely-on-batteries-to-clean-up-the-grid/
Why Germany’s nuclear phaseout is leading to more coal burning
Between 2011 and 2015 Germany will open 10.7 GW of new coal fired power stations. This is more new coal coal capacity than was constructed in the entire two decades after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The expected annual electricity production of these power stations will far exceed that of existing solar panels and will be approximately the same as that of Germany’s existing solar panels and wind turbines combined. Solar panels and wind turbines however have expected life spans of no more than 25 years. Coal power plants typically last 50 years or longer. At best you could call the recent developments in Germany’s electricity sector contradictory. https://carboncounter.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/why-germanys-nuclear-phaseout-is-leading-to-more-coal-burning/
Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables
Even as Germany adds lots of wind and solar power to the electric grid, the country’s carbon emissions are rising. Will the rest of the world learn from its lesson? After years of declines, Germany’s carbon emissions rose slightly in 2015, largely because the country produces much more electricity than it needs. That’s happening because even if there are times when renewables can supply nearly all of the electricity on the grid, the variability of those sources forces Germany to keep other power plants running. And in Germany, which is phasing out its nuclear plants, those other plants primarily burn dirty coal. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601514/germany-runs-up-against-the-limits-of-renewables/
Blues for the Greenies: Now matter how many greenbacks the government throws at “green” energy, everyone ends up feeling blue. Yesterday the Wall Street Journal updated the story we’ve been covering for a long time now about the dismal performance of the Brightsource solar energy array in the California desert: High Tech Solar Projects Fail to Deliver - $2.2 Billion California Project Generates 40% of Expected Electricity http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/06/more-blues-for-the-greens.php
Solar – After Hundreds of Billions of Dollars of Subsidies and R&D and this is what we get?
http://reneweconomy.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/bernstein-energy-supply.jpg
Ten Reasons Intermittent Renewables (Wind and Solar PV) are a Problem
http://ourfiniteworld.com/2014/01/21/ten-reasons-intermittent-renewables-wind-and-solar-pv-are-a-problem/
this is a decent idea, though it has some practical problems at this stage, and I loathe Gates:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/17/bill-gates-terrapower-builds-its-first-nuclear-reactor-in-a-coal-town.html
I think we will continue to see efforts with the technology:
https://www.csmonitor.com/text_edition/Science/2023/0210/Future-fuel-Universities-consider-harnessing-micro-nuclear-reactors
And the waste is an asset:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nuclear-waste-solution_n_63dd62f3e4b01e928871180a
To me, the largest drawback on these systems must be that they are cooled by highly flammable liquid sodium. When I was a kid growing up in a suburb of Detroit in 1966, they had a near catastrophe at the nearby Fermi fast breeder reactor that was sodium cooled. A small piece of metal broke off internally and partially blocked a coolant tube. We have wasted fortunes on solar and wind, and created mountains of unrecyclable parts, and the money would have been better spent on refining the designs of nuclear facilities.
Fast Eddy - check this out: https://brilliantlightpower.com/pdf/Overview_Presentation.pdf
We agree renewables are never likely to replace energy needs. Nuclear can and will once the anti-nuclear fools get out of the way. Smaller, mass produced reactor units are likely the way once we decide to make them. While more expensive in kWhr/$ metrics are reconsidered given other advantages, they offer a way past the overuse of fossil energy reserving it for critical applications. All of that assumes that nations develop rational energy policy not dominated by the climate mafia.
The EV of the future is much more likely to be based on Hydrogen with an awful lot of needed new technology. As you note we are nowhere near the ability to produce high density batteries for all those dream EVs that the government promotes. Utility scale batteries are a different proposition because they don't require the energy density. An interesting future involves home solar with those type of batteries.
As I note technology has always defeated Mathusian concepts and will continue to do so given past history.
God almighty….
God is BS as well
God bless you.
https://extinctionclock.org/
and go for a stroll outside of your echo chamber, sit on a park bench and read A century of war by Frederick William Engdahl.
I see said the blind man.
Just because you don't like the fact that the science indicates that the injected are almost certainly going to die by the billion -- and that his will collapse the global supply chain - and take us down the toilet with them (you are unvaxxed?).....
Doesn't mean you have to fling shit everywhere....
We see the medium term future similarly, I expect. Potentially (even likely) pretty awful is an understatement.
We disagree only on the underlying motives for the long planned & deliberate mass killing.
I wonder if you have built a better case than you otherwise might because if you can’t do it, then the motive isn’t physical / practical / political etc.
if it’s spiritual, it’s much more frightening.
I've actually been expecting something like this since not long after GFC so not really building a case. I knew we were doomed long ago and have been behaving accordingly since having that epiphany
And yes I think we agree --- this will end very badly. It has the potential to end with 8B humans ripping each other to pieces and literally eating each other.
Remember, it’s a two way street for mammals and viruses. We need each other to survive. Without one, the other would instantly disappear. As human population has significantly increased over the last 100 years viruses have been keeping pace.
One other factor not discussed in this excellent diatribe is historical exposure to similar viruses. Some old people already have memory cell immunity that also assists “the herd” in reaching the same survival coverage. Viruses also know that and then they do their own mutating as a training tool.
Don’t forget, as an example, we all have active Polio is in our gut biome. Someone/something is helping us out in keeping that modulated moderated. Is it viruses? Fungus? Bacteria? Parasites? A combo? Likely, yes.
We’ll have to learn to roll with the punches......even if man screws around playing mix and match/gain of function. Consider it another straw on the backs of all mammals in an effort to continue forward.
Fantastic article el gato. What do you think about Dr. Vanden Bossche's article in which he says Omicron may reset the immune fixation?
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/like-a-virgin-untouched-forever
What truly drives disease susceptibility is an individual's health status and the robustness of his own immune system. This, in return, depends on your diet, protein intake, and micronutrient stores in the body, which allows for proper regulation, proper function, and proper response of the immune system against pathogens. Even people who theoretically never encountered SARS-CoV-2 or other HCoVs (not possible) are immune in a practical sense because a strong and healthy immune system is precisely designed to protect you against new pathogens and new mutations. It is designed to learn, adapt and respond to changes and conditions in its environment. One thing that has been omitted entirely from this conversation is why children and young people have no problems with this virus. The reason for that is simple. It is much easier to fulfill your body's nutritional requirements when you are in a development stage (low bodyweight) and when you are primed for stress, adaptations, and interactions with the environment around you. Kids and young people also have much more active lifestyles, which include movement, exercise, and sun exposure. And yes, this is as simple as that. If it weren't so simple, then no animal on this planet would reach adulthood / old age, as they would be constantly being consumed by "diseases" and pathogens.
Obesity is a comorbidity for more than just viruses...a lot of folks who are obese are on multiple medications for multiple health problems and obesity is a real issue in many countries and then adding the whole 'fat acceptance' movement is pure insanity.
Fat acceptance is the new corporatist strategy.
That's an interesting take. A bunch of my female coworkers call it body positivity, I guess cause they are very overweight and want to make it sound better. They also, rightly, have anti-corporatist sentiments. I am eager to toss your hypothesis their way.
I'm sure they'll eat it up!
Groan.
This stems from the Fat Studies segment of Critical Theory. See James Lindsay's blog on it. https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-fat-studies/
My daughter is naturally super thin and, since adolescence, has been ridiculed for it (she is now 33). Obese people totally get a pass these days. I'm sick of their bitching.
Or just one more way to depopulate….
And the ol' gender switcheroo.
Correct. Obesity generally impairs the function of the immune system and even access to some stored nutrients like vitamin d, but here is a catch. There can be two obese persons, but one can be healthy with a properly working immune system, and the other one unhealthy with a dysfunctional one. One can be insulin resistant and on its way to diabetes, the other can have functional fat stores, which does not significantly impact health, even if they appear to be on the fluffier side.
Yes! And note thin people can also be (and are) metabolically ill.
I heard Dr. Robert Lustig say 40% of normal weight people has the same metabolic diseases obese people has (that figure is 80% among the obese population).
Here's the ref. (3 minutes in): https://youtu.be/o-QO33hfadY
Similar to smokers. A small minority will never have respiratory illnesses but the overwhelming majority will.
It kind of seems like you're arguing that a person who maintains good health and nutrition will have a great immune system until the day they die. I find that highly unlikely, cellular aging is a reality no matter how well we try to live.
Yes, and no. Let me explain. Aging is real, no one is questioning that. Over time, the body becomes less efficient, accumulates wear and tear, requires better maintenance, higher quality nutrition for proper function, etc. In the short term, think human lifespan, you can maintain good health, vitality, mobility, and immune function up to a certain point, and yes, you can get there with lifestyle and nutrition. Plenty of healthy or relatively healthy and highly active elderly populations can be found around the world. None of which are ravaged by either the diseases of civilization or infectious diseases. We refer to it as healthy and graceful aging. Ask yourself this, why some elderly populations are healthier than others and live longer as a result? Luck? Genetics? Or something else?
Of course, you cannot cheat the maximum cellular clock that your body possesses. But on the other hand, how do you think that happened that homo sapiens can live up to 120 years old while other primates cannot? Other primates' lifespan ranges from 20 to 45 years. Why is that? Magic? Why do some mammals have a similar lifespan to humans, and some exceed it, even to 200+ years? What is the reason for that? The answer starts with lifestyle and nutrition, which influences cellular repair, maintenance, recycling mechanisms amongst hundreds of different biochemical processes. Do you think that our species always had a lifespan setpoint at ~120 years? Or maybe we somehow got there during the long-term evolutionary timeframes? How did we get there? With nutrition and thriving as a species. Nutrition is what drives the entire immune system. In fact, it drives our entire biological machinery, including regulation, proper function, and proper response of the immune system against both viral and bacterial infections. Although we cannot extend our lifespan significantly, we can impact our cellular clock in the short term, and if the same behavior is to be repeated by further generations, the lifespan of our species will be extended. But for it to happen, we need to provide our bodies and biological machinery with everything it needs to keep proper function and to maintain health as long as possible. The species simply needs to thrive from a health and nutritional standpoint for that to happen. One caveat, though. We need to do all of this in a reproductive timeframe, so all the changes, adaptations, and optimizations are passed onto the next generations. This is the only logical explanation, an Ockham's razor which most traditionally "trained" and "educated" people do not understand. This is why el gato malo is wrong in his assumptions about aging, senescence, and risk stratification based on age. This is where math fails people like him because they do not understand that their data is incomplete (garbage in), leading them to false conclusions (garbage out). Everyone ignores lifestyle and nutrition when it is literally the deciding factor in immune function, influencing disease susceptibility, impact, severity, survivability, healthy aging, and lifespan. What is even worse, people have no idea what health is and what healthy foods and healthy nutrition are for our species. But that is for another talk...
Interesting article - I need to spend more time reading it to grasp all the points! What you say about lifestyle is so true. Obviously, we all have some genetic luck - or not maybe - but there's no doubt ageing can be slowed by lifestyle choices. People need to know how to attend to this problem, but you cannot thrust this information down people's throats and tell them what to do. It should start in schools. (More important than all the current 'education' about the social rights of minority groups!) Much of the problem stems from the food industries, many of which are totally corrupt and out to make maximum profits. ( Book - The Big Fat Lie - about fats and the food industry. Well written with an analysis of the American food industry and why people got fat - lots of parallels with vaccines and drug companies). Many people are reluctant to take charge of their own health too. They just want a magic pill to take when they get sick, -this attitude was prevalent regarding the Covid vaccines - but it doesn't work like that. It takes time and effort to be healthy with a strong immune system being part of the equation. To eat well, exercise, get proper sleep and avoid stress takes time. As one ages it can take more time. For me it's the only approach - and you need to start as early as possible - why would I want to spend the last twenty years of my life in a sick, unhealthy state? For many people, the problems can only be approached little by little. Poorer sections of society will struggle more with those principles too. It's much easier to have a good diet when you have enough money. Our health services generally do not approach things from a lifestyle angle, although that is improving slowly. Doctors have very little training or knowledge about food and nutrition either. The problems are actually immense.
What about George Soros? I have reliable information that he lives on Doritos, pizza, donuts and Coca Cola... apparently he's done a deal with the Devil that will see him live to 130. In return he has to do the Devil's work
Tell that to a healthy chicken that is not vaccinated and encounters an vaxxed chicken that is infected https://www.eugyppius.com/p/the-marek-effect?s=r
Well, there're two things here. (1) I wouldn't call his conclusion "wrong," so much as "incomplete." He may very well be right that OAS plays a role in why new variants affect the elderly. And (2) when you start comparing the effect of COVID in other countries, you need pages and pages of footnotes, such as how they counted COVID cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, how healthy the population was to begin with, what their health care system is like (ours is lousy by the way, not Italian lousy but definitely far behind that of Japan), and what their "mitigation" strategies were (or weren't). You can't just compare one factor.
Japan very early on was demonstrating competencies we have still not embraced. They performed tissue examinations to get results they published, on where the LNP ended up by tissue type, and alerted everyone to the proclivity for it to go to ovaries and bone marrow. They examined the contents of vials and found large contaminations, and returned 1.5 million doses to the manufacturer. They suspended their vax program and made ivermectin freely available. The Asians already had a cultural norm to stay home if ill, and mask if you had to go out with sniffles or cough; the only time they are useful. Many places still embrace daily shopping for the evening meal, so their ingredients are high quality and very fresh.
All those lifestyle factors can apply to the young as well, but over time have a cumulative effect. To me this means age itself is actually a factor
These lifestyle factors are applying younger and younger. I work with kids at karate school. Over the 20 years I have done this, I see more autoimmune, more aches and pains, more fatigue - and far less attention, than kids 20 years ago.
agreed
While true I don’t think it’s inappropriate because most old people are going to keep doing what they have been doing.
I take offense when people spread and rely on pseudoscience, that's all. Even if these people are on the side of #TeamReality. This notion that age is a risk factor (implied causality) has been going on since the pandemic started, and it has been complete nonsense from the start and is still being parroted by the likes of Kulldorff, Bhattacharya, Malone, Ioannidis, McCullough, et al.
see above. this is largely argument by straw man and limiting the look to a partial picture especially as senescence and comorbidities correlate no just from behavior but as actually second order effects of senescence.
this seems an oddly strident tone to take given how much you're leaving out.
Time is too short to engage with people who will never 'get it'... no matter how simplified and powerful your argument is.
You expanded upon the warnings of Bossche -- adding to the thesis - and explaining it in a way that most people can understand (Bossche writes for other scientists so much of what he says loses the average person).
Alas some will not understand the danger we are in no matter how it is presented.
But nice effort :)
See my replies. You are operating from a false premise, based on the wrong assumptions, over-reliance on math (risk stratification), and incomplete data, which leads you to wrong conclusions... and you simply cannot see it. Keep in mind this is a very minor (in a sense) and very specific point that I'm "attacking" in your analysis. And it is quite funny when I'm being accused of looking only at the partial picture when this is exactly my argument against you, which is a false premise & false assumptions >>> inability of seeing the big picture here.
interestingly enough, i feel this same way about you and your claims to "take offense."
clearly, comorbidity is an issue, but you seem to ignore cross correlation to senescence etc. as thought the two are somehow independent variables. they are not.
you made this specific claim:
"Your assumptions for why flu is supposedly high risk for the elderly are wrong. Advanced age is heavily confounded by lifestyle factors, which means the effect of immunosenescence is being overestimated by basically all doctors and scientists."
and it is neither particularly accurate except from a certain angle nor particularly germane.
clearly, covid risk amplifies greatly with age even with zero comorbidities.
https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff358eba2-a1ff-4b7e-a879-70ba702f9d57_1154x708.jpeg
you seem to be engaging in projection on failing to see the big picture.
Again, you are making assumptions. You simply don't understand that someone with advanced age with 3 or 4 comorbidities can shake off the infection without problems, while a person with no comorbidities and 30-40 years younger can be at higher risk and have severe problems. Or why healthy elderly can shake it off while deficient, malnourished, starved, dehydrated ones in care homes can start dropping like flies when infected. You don't understand that data you rely on is filled with so many confounders that this is not even funny. I already explained both the confounders of aging and your flawed reliance on comorbidity data in previous posts. This is a perfect example of garbage-in, garbage-out, but you simply cannot see this. I do not negate the fact that risk amplifies with age, but not to a significant or impactful extent like you and others are claiming, what I'm saying is that age is not a causal factor when it comes to disease susceptibility and risk for severe outcomes or death. And it is neither a major risk factor, despite what data is showing you. It is all about the health status of the individual and how well his immune system functions. This, in return, is driven by nutrition, which drives not only immune function but our entire biochemistry. The only reason why you see a significant risk increase with age in available data is due to confounders, which you are either ignoring or are completely unaware of. If you look and compare both healthy vs. unhealthy populations, you will see a significant risk correlation with age on one side, but you won't see it either at all or to the same and substantial degree on the other.
I would call it simplification not pseudoscience. But older people having weaker immune systems in general is a thing. You’re picking at the individual pieces of why but they matter less to me than the holistic reality. Not all kids are safe. The big majority of old people were never doomed. But on planet sized problems generalizations are critical in communicating with even doctors. We spent decades telling people that only barriers work for HIV and that lambskin has tiny holes that virus can get through but now that a tee shirt will be the difference between life and death.
I think age is mainly a risk factor because as most age they start to medicate more, and that's after a lifetime of not taking care of themselves. Of course we've been given the wrong information about health all along, avoid the sun, avoid meat, saturated fat, eat polyunsaturates. Talk to your doctor about everything health related although they don't even study most health issues in school.
I would like to see the concept of chronic inflammation considered. It is not just related to age, it has a lot to do with gut health. In general, the Japanese diet is less inflammation-inducing, which I am sure plays a part in their resilience.
Interestingly obesity is associated with chronic inflammation:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5507106/
According to family in Illinois, the governor proposed legislation that would allow him to compile lists of vaccinated and unvaccinated citizens. Why would he need that if the pandemic is winding down? Clearly, he is getting ready for Stage 2.
The people behind these vaccines are not stupid. They know what they are doing, a point made over and over again by Dr. Yeadon. This is deliberate. Keep in mind that first you must destroy existing systems before you can "Build Back Better." The human rights abuses that we endured these last 2 years will seem mild if/when (Bill Gates promises "when.") the next round gets underway.
They already snuck funding in for a federal gov't employee vaccine resister list as well, handled by some obscure office in DC that normally does trial prep services.
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Well then thank the fuck I'm in WA state. Crazy Inzlee has been consistently voted down when the totalitarian hardware gets mentioned. I grew up in IL, love it but I don't love Chicago and it's lovely gift to mankind. Then again, you got Pritzkers. Have fun with the transhuman pervert and his relatives.
It will be so easy when it's all digital.
You managed -- if "find in page" is correct -- to write this entire column without mentioning the name "Marek's", yet somehow a picture of chickens snuck in. Isn't the big issue there not just that the virus variant was selected for evading the vaccine, but that it also came to be much more fatal?
i left it out on purpose because that's a far from forgone conclusion.
i think we WERE seeing just that sort of vaccine mediated virulence increase in delta.
but omi went the other way and become far less severe. that is the natural "desire" of a virus driven by evolutionary necessity. killing the host is severely maladaptive and selected strongly against.
you really only get that sort of inverted gradient when you have non sterilizing vaccines with meaningful partial efficacy.
if you get far enough outside them that efficacy is basically gone, the evo gradient reverts to normal and you go back to selecting for lower, not higher virulence.
and my base prior is that this will dominate and that delta was a transitory interstitial.
>> that is the natural "desire" of a virus driven by evolutionary necessity. killing the host is severely maladaptive and selected strongly against.
>>you really only get that sort of inverted gradient when you have non sterilizing vaccines with meaningful partial efficacy.
My understanding of Marek's (disclaimer that people are not chickens and this discussion is not necessarily analogous but the principles of viral evolution are still the same) is that it is a scary example of OAS precisely because vaccinated birds live LONG ENOUGH to go to market, not to a ripe old age.
You're right that it's a fundamental principle that viruses (metaphorically speaking) don't "want" to kill their hosts. But they don't "care" if the host dies AFTER serving as an incubator and transmitter. That's long enough.
My understanding of OAS is that it's so dangerous precisely BECAUSE if a virus develops mutations that give it phenomenal transmissibility, the window within which it's strategically bad for the host to die can be a lot shorter, because we don't need it for very long.
Which means that deadliness ISN'T being selected out along normal patterns.
Which should obviate an extinction level event for the unvaccinated, while the vaccinated are likely in serious trouble, and have started dying in higher numbers. SCI stock price has been rising.
Suits me.
Thinking more about your above comment, Guttermouth, the first time I realized that natural selection of species doesn't guarantee that we live much past reproductive age, just long enough to see the kids on their way, was chilling. Yet nature is kind enough to give us twice that long usually. Kind of like viruses that could as you say, kill off individuals when they're done with us, but usually don't. Peaceful symbiosis is likely more tenable for viruses also than outright slaughter.
It really is important to remember things like this when we mildly anthropomorphize viral behavior and other biological phenomena that behave like epidemics.
There's a caveat to your broader philosophical point, though, even if it doesn't affect our current discussion: big-brained mammals (including some non-primates) live well beyond childrearing age and most biologists and anthropologists that study this have identified strong evolutionary advantages, FOR THOSE SPECIES, in having "useless eaters" stay around long after replicating genes to protect and support children and grandchildren (among other useful purposes to the broader community):
This is just one example (in an admittedly nonscientific platform): https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/10/asia/killer-whales-grandparents-babies-survival-intl-hnk-scli/index.html (other sources besides CNN reported on the study if you'd prefer not to give them clicks)
But yes, in terms of how animals interact with other animals that make them sick or kill them, the gold standard is simply reaching the age of reproduction. The organism doesn't need quality of life or long life for its death to not endanger the species.
Humans facing a Marek's-style inversion of COVID evolution won't have that luxury. Our lifespans, length of pregnancy, and length of childrearing are incompatible with a purely ruthlessly-efficient killer. It would be mass extinction.
I thought I had read that the Omicron strain lineage goes back farther than the original alpha strain. My question is how can Omicron be referred as a variant of alpha or delta when it predates them, wouldn’t it be the other way around?
The issue of where Omicron came from seems to me to be the one hole in an otherwise compelling thesis: "you saw how quickly omicron chased the vaccination campaigns. my strong suspicion is that this was not a coincidence. it was driven BY the selective pressure of the vaccines that took what looks to be a throwback variant that did not evolve from delta but rather diverged from it all the way back at the original pre-alpha ancestor and surged it to sudden global prominence." I'm not aware of any evidence demonstrating that Omicron evolved. It seems far more likely to be a lab product than the result of selection.
Suggesting that might be the outcome would frighten people.
They prefer to believe that this is about making money - or control. Even though both theories are patently ridiculous. But both theories leave room for hope of a future.
To acknowledge a Marek's type outcome -- acknowledges the intent to commit mass murder - and destroys all hope of there being a future.
I remember 10+ years ago when I realized where we were heading mentioning this to one of my brothers - he said 'they will not allow that to happen' ...'they will do something about it'
Well ya... they obviously cannot replenish the oil fields... but they are doing something about it..... as they should.
8B people with no food or electricity is a recipe for mass murder, rape and cannibalism
Are you suggesting the contemptible worms running the show are somehow benevolent in “mercy killing”?
UK TV Series "Utopia." (2013) Yes, they really believe that extinction is mercy.
Absolutely.
The other option is 8B vicious predators without food, electricity etc...
Think about what happens if the PTB fail in exterminating us before the lights go off. There won't be 911 when the bad guys show up looking for food - or a bit of forced action.
If you read your history children were favoured during famines. See the famine that took place after the Russian revolution. Cannibalism was wide spread
Mutual nuclear destruction, depopulation via jab & resource depletion & what that portends are all viable. But human nature & human spirit have gotten us to today - for worse AND better.
Nemesis is an ancient concept & just rewards for the hubris, arrogance, ignorance, idiocy & incompetence of our tyrannical “betters”. Whether I live to see it or not, therein lies MY hope.
I must reject your theories of inevitability & hopelessness (otherwise, why don’t we all just kill ourselves now & be done w/ it) and certainly that the depopulation agenda is benevolent or merciful, much less that THEY have the right to choose anything for anyone else.
And should your dystopian scenario come true & I’m alive to see it, I’ll hope to take out as many of the marauders as I can & then put a bullet in my own head before the breach. The timing & manner of death will be my own.
Interestingly ... a mate of mine who works up in Hong Kong said something similar when I briefed him on the CEP.... to which I responded -- that is exactly why they are putting us down before 'mad max' breaks out.
The veneer of civilization strips off quickly when we don't have our cushy fossil fuel powered lives and we are faced with trying to survive... the predator inside every one of us will emerge and he won't be pleasant.
No more - g'day Bob --- well g'day to you Jim... no more of that ... it's more like... bullet to the head of Bob.. take his food... rape his wife... and when the food runs out roast his wife and kids...
The Road (the book is more graphic) is a reasonable depiction of what this will look like ... but it does leave out the initial mayhem that results in most of the 8B slaughtering each other
It really is both kind and wise of our masters to exterminate us before the lights go out and the orgy of violence gets underway. If anyone thinks otherwise -- think of the most vile criminals you have ever seen - maybe a biker gang... maybe some really nasty individuals you have seen in a news program or a prison documentary.... that's the sort - and worse - that will be on the loose. And there will be no police or military to oppose them.
And it will be like that till you are dead... there will be no reset.
Oh and did I mention that there are 4000 spent fuel ponds that left unmanaged will boil and expose their toxic fuel - and that will spew poison into the air and water for literally centuries?
“ South East Asian countries are experiencing their deadliest Covid waves to date despite the milder Omicron variant being dominant and high vaccination rates.”
Perhaps replace ‘despite’ with ‘because’.
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/08/deadly-omicron-surge-hits-south-east-asia-despite-high-vaccination-rates/
Perhaps I am just a dismissive skeptic. But I suspect, if you had access to the true case and fatality rates, you'd find that "deadly" means that 8 per million are dying, up from perhaps 6 per million previously. All this with the usual disclaimer that Covid-19 severely affects and kills almost exclusively the very old and/or with chronic serious conditions. Oh yes, the usual failings of tests, disease diagnosis and incentives to fudge statistics. In other words, it's all bullshit until proven otherwise.
Just because we don't have a Devil Covid mutation yet... does not mean we wont
Yeah, that's a Fox Butterfield for you. (Readers familiar with James Taranto's "Best of the Web Today" column from back in the day will recognize that reference.)
In the vein of, "Crime down despite record incarceration rates".
Or the other way round as one Guardian Newspaper columnist had it.
Yes, you're absolutely right. I effed it up. Completely. My formulation made no sense!
"Record incarceration rates despite drop in crime"
Reminiscent of a recent headline - "We should get rid of our nukes because we've never needed to use them".
I cancelled my subscription to WSJ when Taranto got promoted out of that column.
James Freeman's good, but he's no Taranto. I only subscribed to the WSJ when I could get the $1/3 months online deals, and even then, it was just to read the BOTWT column. I was in the FOBOTWT Facebook group almost from its inception, since around 2009 IIRC, but I deleted FB from my life last June and I haven't looked back.
Fox Butterfield call your office. Fox Butterfield could not be reached for comment. I blame George W. Bush. "Best of the Web" was MUST read for me every day. Damn, I miss it. Really broke my heart when the WSJ went behind a paywall.
Thank you! It's been so long I couldn't remember how he put it!
FWIW, you can occasionally find a $1/month for 3 months or similar deals online with the WSJ. That's how I got through the paywall so I could read his BOTWT column. I was also part of the closed FB group "Fans Of Best Of The Web Today", and the column would be posted to our group regularly, so that was another way around the paywall.
Looks like omicron for the vaccinated in South East Asia is more ominous than optimistic. Not good.
It has been suggested a new mutation is causing this https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/bad-news-from-hong-kong?s=r
Yeah, I was feeling a bit woozy waiting for Marek’s to slip in there...
but isn't Marek's so fatal to the flock b/c chickens are crammed together? you get a Marek's-hot human virus and people would scatter
People believe a tee shirt blocks an airborne virus and you think they will understand Marek’s? Who would take them in if they could afford to flee and understood they should?
I know you're not implying this in your comment, but this line of thinking gave me a twitch of anger for all the covidians I got into arguments with about why there were mass exoduses from harsh, draconian blue cities and states to the least restrictive locations. The cultists would invariably insist that they were all "fleeing COVID" and not attempting to escape a miserable lifestyle under public health rule.
We are leaving because the value of staying has dropped too low for too long while we hoped for the good things to come back and they show few signs of returning. Social spending is skyrocketing with crime and taxes for the privilege of living in ground zero of the next plague or wave or variant that will justify even more foolishness. NYC’s word used to be “money” now it’s “fear”.
They are too brainwashed and have lost access to the ability to be logical or pragmatic. You might as well argue with a five year old who believes unicorns are real. It’s tragic.
I was in NYC for the pandemic and lots of true blues (even AOC eventually) headed for the sunny freedoms. Even moving there where the Blue Plague will continue to spread there.
Marek's isn't fatal to the flock if the flock is vaccinated. The birds live long enough to be slaughtered (which in industry birds is as quick as 4-8 weeks) so a shortened lifespan from the virus doesn't factor in.
The issue with Marek's as it applies to chickens is that unvaccinated birds die (or are doomed) basically instantly because the virus is so hot and infectious.
Yep, it was always the worst case scenario for the unvaccinated. That we would be forced to take it because the others all blindly did. However, I'm hoping OAS is happening and I'm not wishing death on others, simply that the virus weakens and maybe, just maybe, many of those vaccinated can get their bodies to relearn natural immunity. I'm wondering what will it take to even educate these folks with the oil prices and war in Ukraine- are they even paying any attention?
https://worldedge.substack.com/p/the-case-for-reverse-mareks?s=r
Or perhaps the vaccines don't stop the disease that emerges... which is already happening.
Sure they would... some would. But where would the residents of Hong Kong, Tokyo, or New York City scatter to?
Same places they did last time, in all likelihood. Tons from NYC just split. But then came the state to state travel restrictions…
I was watching for Marek's too.
This article is quite prescient for me because it's incubation season and I just lost a stunning number of chicks that I ordered pre-hatched to what was obviously a virus (identical care conditions to other breeds I was simultaneously hatching rather than ordering pre-hatched).
All but 4 or 24 dropped dead within three days.
However, I deliberately keep a heterogeneous flock (2-3 breeds from rotating sources) so no other birds were even slightly ill.
oooh. Sorry for your loss. Really. (That's not a joke.)
It was shocking. It was the first time we'd ordered pre-hatched chicks shipped to us. They were from a fairly local source in-state so I felt comfortable with the transit and standards for shipping livestock are actually really good in this country (thank the Grange for that). But it was obviously something that happened in handling- either this batch was completely overlooked for vaccination (unlikely) or it was their pre-shipping environment.
Needless to say I won't be doing pre-hatched again unless I'm physically inspecting them and picking them up myself next time. Our incubation rates are excellent (80%+) anyway so it really was a "let's try this because it's less of a hassle."
But yeah, I felt very bad for the little guys and gals. It was very sad literally seeing a pile of little yellow bodies every morning and not be able to do a damn thing about it.
The four survivors are full-grown at this point and doing very well, though! (They're Leghorn-Rhode crosses, for the record).
Wait till we see all the millions of humans dying... that will ensure we self isolate -- we won't even venture out to hunt a child for dinner...
We'll lock our doors and starve. Which is another key component of the CEP... frightened people do not kill and cannibalize... they wait to die..
Keeps the mayhem to a minimum
COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
Why?
Conventional Oil peaked in 2005 http://www.euanmearns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/C-Cdec141.png
Shale in 2018.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html
Shale binge has spoiled US reserves, top investor warns Financial Times. https://energyskeptic.com/2021/the-end-of-fracked-shale-oil/
Shale boss says US has passed peak oil | Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/320d09cb-8f51-4103-87d7-0dd164e1fd25
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
Our fossil fuel energy predicament, including why the correct story is rarely told https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/11/10/our-fossil-fuel-energy-predicament-including-why-the-correct-story-is-rarely-told/
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Collapse Imminent: https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/
The Illusion of Stability, the Inevitability of Collapse http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-illusion-of-stability-inevitability.html
Fed is sharply increasing the amount of help it is providing to the financial system https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/23/fed-repo-overnight-operations-level-to-increase-to-120-billion.html Banks did not trust each other - similar situation when Lehman collapsed
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table --- throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover --- and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice --- one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies --- and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone --- we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome - From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
If you have a large pool of hosts that all have the same fixation, then you have a large number of individual labs in which to have such a mutation occur. You have far more hosts in which to have random chances occur, all selecting for a mutation that attacks one specific weakness and that weakness is in most of the population, so once it’s out, there is no stopping it. And if this fixation prevents the hosts from developing strong new immunities based on these novel pathogens, this becomes iterative. you get wave after wave of pandemics until you wipe out the susceptible population. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/homogenizing-herd-level-antigenic
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
The PTB understand all of this and that is WHY every leader is on board with the Injections. There is NO way out of this --- so they have decided to mitigate the suffering as much as possible by putting us down and here is the mechanism https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/why-the-ongoing-mass-vaccination-experiment-drives-a-rapid-evolutionary-response-of-sars-cov-2.
You know, as terrifying as the picture you just painted is......... it makes far more sense than a bunch of elitists just killing off the masses for the sake of profits. Profit, in & of itself, never made that much sense. I mean, they have so much money, what is the point to more? And I'm not sure that the average elitist even gives a second thought to most of us down here at the bottom of the ladder, as long as they have their creature comforts. Perhaps I am naïve.......... I had heard whispers elsewhere of a mini ice age approaching & that the global push to reduce population was based around salvaging food. Perhaps it's all of the above.........
It's the only scenario that I can think of ... that makes any sense.
It's not about making money - how do you get everyone on board so pharma can make money - while trillions are spent holding this shit show together
It's not about control - we are already controlled - see how easily the got 90% uptake of experimental garbage... see how Putin is 'the devil'
Sprattle Leg can wipe out a lot of newly arrived chicks but adding a lot of nutritional yeast to the feed when they arrive can turn it around quickly.
It wasn't spraddle leg- I'd have caught that quickly. I've treated that before and you're right, it's easily resolved. There were no outward symptoms- they simply quickly weakened and died. If they hadn't been isolated from my other birds I would probably have done testing afterwards, but the issue seems to have died with them.
Maybe the only protection is in the old Irish saying—“Tis a great life…but DON’T WEAKEN!!!”
I've had a weird chick season too. Both have made it so far- I bought them after overhearing a convo between 2 employees how this batch was doing so much better than the last one. I want a rooster and some banties and do this meself.
COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
Why?
Conventional Oil peaked in 2005 http://www.euanmearns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/C-Cdec141.png
Shale in 2018.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html
Shale binge has spoiled US reserves, top investor warns Financial Times. https://energyskeptic.com/2021/the-end-of-fracked-shale-oil/
Shale boss says US has passed peak oil | Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/320d09cb-8f51-4103-87d7-0dd164e1fd25
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
Our fossil fuel energy predicament, including why the correct story is rarely told https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/11/10/our-fossil-fuel-energy-predicament-including-why-the-correct-story-is-rarely-told/
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Collapse Imminent: https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/
The Illusion of Stability, the Inevitability of Collapse http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-illusion-of-stability-inevitability.html
Fed is sharply increasing the amount of help it is providing to the financial system https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/23/fed-repo-overnight-operations-level-to-increase-to-120-billion.html Banks did not trust each other - similar situation when Lehman collapsed
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table --- throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover --- and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice --- one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies --- and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone --- we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome - From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
If you have a large pool of hosts that all have the same fixation, then you have a large number of individual labs in which to have such a mutation occur. You have far more hosts in which to have random chances occur, all selecting for a mutation that attacks one specific weakness and that weakness is in most of the population, so once it’s out, there is no stopping it. And if this fixation prevents the hosts from developing strong new immunities based on these novel pathogens, this becomes iterative. you get wave after wave of pandemics until you wipe out the susceptible population. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/homogenizing-herd-level-antigenic
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
The PTB understand all of this and that is WHY every leader is on board with the Injections. There is NO way out of this --- so they have decided to mitigate the suffering as much as possible by putting us down and here is the mechanism https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/why-the-ongoing-mass-vaccination-experiment-drives-a-rapid-evolutionary-response-of-sars-cov-2.
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/the-marek-effect?s=r I suspect that what emerges from this Satanic Swill will be like Marek's on Steroids...
An incredibly contagious mutation --- that is deadly to both the vaxxed and unvaxxed.
COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
Why?
Conventional Oil peaked in 2005 http://www.euanmearns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/C-Cdec141.png
Shale in 2018.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html
Shale binge has spoiled US reserves, top investor warns Financial Times. https://energyskeptic.com/2021/the-end-of-fracked-shale-oil/
Shale boss says US has passed peak oil | Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/320d09cb-8f51-4103-87d7-0dd164e1fd25
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
Our fossil fuel energy predicament, including why the correct story is rarely told https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/11/10/our-fossil-fuel-energy-predicament-including-why-the-correct-story-is-rarely-told/
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Collapse Imminent: https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/
The Illusion of Stability, the Inevitability of Collapse http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-illusion-of-stability-inevitability.html
Fed is sharply increasing the amount of help it is providing to the financial system https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/23/fed-repo-overnight-operations-level-to-increase-to-120-billion.html Banks did not trust each other - similar situation when Lehman collapsed
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table --- throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover --- and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice --- one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies --- and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone --- we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome - From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
If you have a large pool of hosts that all have the same fixation, then you have a large number of individual labs in which to have such a mutation occur. You have far more hosts in which to have random chances occur, all selecting for a mutation that attacks one specific weakness and that weakness is in most of the population, so once it’s out, there is no stopping it. And if this fixation prevents the hosts from developing strong new immunities based on these novel pathogens, this becomes iterative. you get wave after wave of pandemics until you wipe out the susceptible population. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/homogenizing-herd-level-antigenic
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
The PTB understand all of this and that is WHY every leader is on board with the Injections. There is NO way out of this --- so they have decided to mitigate the suffering as much as possible by putting us down and here is the mechanism
https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/why-the-ongoing-mass-vaccination-experiment-drives-a-rapid-evolutionary-response-of-sars-cov-2.
I think mucosal immunity saves everyone from mutating covid. Vax probably has not affected this aspect of immunity and mucosa is where virus replicates.
In terms of peak oil, I think we are currently seeing the manifestation of realization. Russia and China will control eastern hemisphere and US will control western. Use what resources you have. Lots of starvation and freezing but human nature not amenable to engineered solution; may cause more carnage than chaotic organically derived solutions.
Wow, I have to say you are brilliant, but you are not exactly a ray of sunshine. What is an old fart like me to do to try and protect my kids and grandkids from what is coming? Can that huge brain of yours see any hope anywhere?
Sorry to say - the only hope that I have is that we are extinguished with the least amount of suffering. Spend what time is left with your family.
In a way this situation can result in inner peace -- embrace the fact that any troubles you have will soon be gone. And in the meantime, reduce any stress you may have by realizing it really does not matter
And a huge positive is that we would normally die alone (unless you happen to be in an airliner that crashes into a mountain!) -- so it's no doubt a bit of a lonely and sad experience -- sad why? - cuz you are leaving everyone behind. But hey - everyone is going on the magic bus over the cliff with you --- so happy times! -- you don't miss out on anything cuz there wont be anything or anyone to miss out on.
There's your silver lining :)
Haha.... no it's as dark as it gets (that's why almost nobody is wiling to consider that I may be correct).
The CEP has evolved over a 12+ year period. It started soon after the GFC... recall how everyone was calling Bernanke stupid/corrupt/incompetent?
Initially I blamed him and the financial institutions for GFC... and thought they were fools.
But then I reconsidered when I watched a documentary on the GFC and old school mortgage operators were saying it normally takes a month or so to approve a mortgage - but these new outfits were approving them on the spot - it forced his hand - he had to match them or he's have no business.
Then there was the discussion of Liar Loans... and I'm sitting their thinking --- one of the primary rules of finance is do not loan money if you don't think you are going to get paid back. Anyone think the honchos were not aware of Liar Loans?
That sent me down the rabbit hole -- why would the banks 'burn their houses down' Why would they allow -- or better still why would they want - Liar Loans? Obviously that was always going to end in tears.
They are not stupid or corrupt or incompetent --- so why do this? Then I thought ... to do this you must fear something really horrifying...
What do they fear???
I spent many hours trying to figure this out - and then one late night in a hotel in Edinburgh -- I stumbled across the Perfect Storm paper
I suggest reading from p 59 and if that gets your attention read it all:
The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel
https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
In a nutshell - we were running out of affordable oil --- expensive oil kills growth -- do the PTB just sit back and watch the system collapse? Or do they try to offset the collapse in growth caused by high oil prices (remember $147 oil just prior to GFC)...
Of course it makes sense to mitigate -- with stimulus --- you drop interest rates -- you pump up the housing market (a hot housing market drives the economy -- people need stuff to put in all those houses)... etc etc...
I spent hours reading and digesting Perfect Storm and had an aha moment ... not a aha I've discovered electricity moment ... more aha - we are f789ed moment.
It took me a long time to get to sleep...
Soon after that I pretty much retired (I was 43 - sold off one business in Asia - and handed over the day to day to another person in the other business) and my wife and I spent the next decade (right up until Covid hit) on major bucket list trips... 4 multi month trips per year.
I tried to alert a few mates to the situation but of course they dismissed me as a chicken little. Amusingly one of them said to me last year - you know - when we get through this Covid thing I am going to come off the gas a bit and spend more time outside work.
I didn't say anything ... but I was thinking ... it's too late for that.
We are not going back to 2019.... this is ... and I have zero doubt about it --- literally - the end of days....
Thank you for taking the time to respond. One thing I like about Substack is that brilliant people are willing to share their knowledge with those of us who are less gifted / less able to put all these puzzle pieces together. I have learned one thing, and that is to believe the exact opposite of what the MSM wants me to believe.
I have taken "The Crash Course" over at PeakProsperity.com over a decade ago so I understand the importance of Peak Cheap Energy. Also, I have spent some time over at SuspicousObservers YouTube Channel. I share the belief of Suspicious/Observers that cyclical, near extinction level events, are visited upon Earth every 12,000 years or so. I believe another is going to hit us in a few decades, and that the PTB know this and have built their massive underground "hidey holes" in an attempt to escape what is coming. What they don't want is a bunch of "useless eaters" interfering with their escape when the time comes. They don't want the masses trying to blast their way in when they finally realize what is afoot. Easier to thin our numbers dramatically now, so we are less of a threat later. I might be all wet with this theory, but like you, I concluded a while back the only reason smart people continue play a game that they know is unsustainable is that they know "something" big is going to change all the rules of everything in the very near future. Therefore they continue to dance while music is playing, perhaps in part for their own amusement, and perhaps in part so the masses stay distracted until their fate is sealed.
Yes.
Whackscene damage, a simplified analogy...
Go out to your car. Put the key in the ignition but do not crank it. Pump the gas 50-100 times. Then try to start the car. Oops you flooded it. If you do manage to start the car, it will sputter and destroy the valves. Repeat the flooding process. Try to start the car again. Now the car is ruined. I am sorry to oversimplify but I am in a reductionist mood this morning.
I know we are not cars, but that is the mentality of people we are trying to reach.
My company just mandated boosters for all employees and guests. Insane timing given that everyone else is moving the opposite direction. Any ideas on how to push back on this?
Find a new company if you can. If your current company is that stupid to believe this shots work, then it's time for a new one.
Everyone just say no. Get people together. Protest. Get a lawyer to draft a document saying they can be sued if adverse reaction’s occur.
Yes. Hi all. Greetings from South Africa. Mass non-compliance is the best way to fight this, and connecting with like minded colleagues is crucial to support each other. Make Telegram group for your colleagues, and start connecting. I manage to reach over 300 of my colleagues. In our group almost no one caved in. Week after the vaxx deadline the company had to give up. Too many employees to fire
1. Quit (pros: you show incredible bravery; cons: you lose your job that pays you and feeds your dependents).
2. Voice your opinion (pros: you show incredible bravery and prove yourself to be principled; cons: it's not likely any of the brainwashed fools pushing this nonsense in the first place will listen, and you likely lose your job that pays you and feeds your dependents.)
3. Forge the documents (pros: you get all the "benefits" of the "vaxxed" with none of the side effect risks; cons: you can get caught and you'll be fired, and you are not staying true to your principles.)
I have had good success with 2 and 3 in the situations this has arisen for me. Fortunately, it was not in situations where the majority of my income was put at risk, so option 3 didn't pose much financial risk if I got caught, just reputational, but the reputational risk would have been similar had I done 1 or 2, so that is why I chose door #3.
A shit situation for you--I will continue to pray that this nonsense comes to an end and people's freedoms are returned.
You have to look at it this way: A job is replaceable. I know it doesn't seem so in the here and now, but it is. There may be some pain to come, but it won't be forever.
But once you put that vax in your arm, there is no going back. It is permanent. You can't change your mind. For me personally, that is all I need to know to say NO.
I know of someone who got the Covid shot only because his employment depended on it. He was fired the next month.
No fucking way. I would sue. Holy shit that’s menacing.
no loyalty amongst covidians?
If the government has not mandated the industry then they cannot legally fire someone. Find a labour lawyer
I urged two of my mates to not comply.
One took two jabs and has myocarditis.
The other took one jab and has something seriously wrong with his heart - he has not been diagnosed yet.
Like I said - this cannot last forever... eventually enough people will say no to the endless boosters and it all falls apart. Be patient... Vax injuries are often permanent
If you think this is a CEP, why urge your mates not to comply?
Updated to UEP https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=220
End of the day I agree with the plan -- just as every leader on the planet agrees.
Yes it sucks to be exterminated -- but the alternative - Ripping of Faces (ROF) is worse...
Why do I bother participating in the discussion? It's not about the end game rather it is about logic... and based on the paradigm that the CovIDIOTS are following -- they are illogical ... so this is more like a game for me --- a logic game... and it's great fun to taunt CovIDIOTS... using logic.
Ultimately I don't care if people inject or don't inject... it's all about the logic of injecting... there is none... so I enjoy taunting them
As for mates... and family - I don't want them to inject because of the vax injury risk... I want them to be around till the end ... we can pop some popcorn and have and end of the world party... I don't want them to be in wheelchairs.. or dead
It passes the time as we await the End Game ... and extinction.
Good suggestions but I would say that you shouldn’t quit. It may not matter, but I would force them to fire me if it came to that.
at least you could get unemployment?
Right, but that’s why I said it may not matter. I know some states had some rumblings about not awarding unemployment to people who were fired as a result of not complying with the mandates, but I am not sure whether that ended up being the case and if so, what states are adhering to that. Regardless, I still don’t see any upside in quitting. Heard many stories of people whose work tried to force jabs and when push came to shove, they didn’t end up following through.
The fact is that all of this is on some pretty murky legal grounds and I think a lot of companies aren’t really sure how things are going to turn out. So many just want to be able to say that they tried to have a fully vaccinated staff but are unwilling to go as far as firing people, in the event of future lawsuits.
I know in NYS healthcare workers were denied unemployment for failure to comply with mandates.
Some personal advice, based upon your user name. I grew up in Northern Virginia. The region certainly has (had?) its plusses: good jobs, above-average amenities, etc. Real estate tends to do extremely well. The home I lived in 50 years ago has increased in value about 15 times (paper money value). But consider the following: my own Dad (long dead) retired also exactly fifty years ago. Even in the early 70s he was appalled at what had happened to the area and the government he used to work for. He spent the rest of his life in rural VA. I myself moved from the area twenty years ago never to return. You've probably got a high-paying job, a family, a shoddily built home allegedly worth $500K and a long commute. Worth it? Maybe. But you may wish to give some thought to what the future may hold.
I ask my wife to move EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. My five year old comes home on every cold day and says, "Mommy, do you know where it isn't cold? FLORIDA!" We are "fortunate" to be in the Zoom class, and the plan is to hightail it to more friendly places (TN, FL, SC, TX) in the next few years without the risk of having to change careers. Our children are currently young, and we have both sets of grandparents here to assist with free babysitting and hugs. As the kids age, the need to stay will dwindle, and we should be able to make a decent profit off the townhouse we are in now.
Are you in Ffx County? The one currently suing to keep masks on our kids? My kid is one of 3 or 4 unmasked in his class. The principal walks around OUTSIDE at carpool time with a mask on. It feels like the Twilight Zone.
Yes--both of mine are under age 5, and the youngest is just now turning 1, so he hasn't been in masks. My oldest has been since she turned 4 last year, and I have been fighting them weekly since Youngkin passed the EO. They finally made it optional last week, but I'd say only about 20% of her classmates are maskless (although this probably varies throughout the day as 4 year olds aren't exactly very reliable in their 'safety' practices). They are still making parents and staff mask. We are moving the 4 year old to a catholic school next year for PreK where it has been optional for some time.
Catholic is a good choice. My other child is in a secular private school STILL MASKED, as the parental choice law applies only to public. I can’t believe they outlasted even FCPS.
There are some people who will never recover from the last two years. Just incredible to hear this.
I have some relatives who live in TN; it's pretty nice if you stay out of Nashville city proper (and probably Memphis, too, though I have no first-hand reports--just thinking on the city-bigger-than-a-certain-size aspect.)
#3 is obviously the best option if you can't quit, and don't want to be an experiment. I suspect that many many people around the world have taken this option. That's why so few people are actually protesting....they got a hook-up.
Obviously a corrupt and evil company. At this point knowing how unsafe and ineffective the "vaccines" are.....you have to be a special type of evil.
Could itbe Saab Inc. Sounds like my woke and stupid ex company.
I think someone needs to remind these companies that the OSHA rule holding them legally responsible for vaccine injuries was not repealed. OSHA merely said they were not going to enforce it for now. If the administration changes that rule may be enforced again-- companies would be held liable for vaccine injuries of vaccines they mandated. That opens a world of hurt for them.
Good point. A negligence lawsuit would be no fun. And a good lawyer could point out to these dummies that if there is not a state or federal requirement to mandate the vaccine, then they are truly doing it completely on their own initiative.
Oh, Yuri that is terrible! I have found excellent resources (pre written letters hopefully with some legal teeth?) at Children’s Health Defense.
IF the job is "worth" it -- call their bluff, wait until the last minute, tell them you are waiting for the "new" Omicron booster, request a medical and/or religious accommodation. Hire a lawyer. Plan to sue if denied. Get ready to file with EEOC. OR...move to Florida. See Jeff Childer's substack for more info on religious accommodations AND Florida.
Show the studies on vax induced suppression of CD8, damage to stem cell production, and damage to glial cells. Clearly they're brain damaged.
Why not the simplest, indeed I'd argue, the only valid reason? You don't trust the jabs, and you don't one one.
And the above are the self-evident reasons.
My argument suggests an exposure to liability that the employer may have overlooked, and everything responds to incentives.
I’ve seen people (mostly students at universities in the same situation) claim religious awakening since their first shot(s) and they cannot get boosted. This is on the individual level, though, not advice on how to push back against the policy overall.
Medical exemptions are working, but religious exemptions are stronger, with less invasion of your medical private info, as well as stronger support from the courts and the Constitution. Any "sincerely held religious belief," per SCOTUS, such as for example the sanctity of the body, not wanting aborted fetal tissue developed product in the body, etc.
This is so helpful to know, especially as I have a son entering college in the fall. Your substack is great, by the way - just subscribed!
Thank you. Best wishes to your son, Yuri and all others for these exemptions to work well.