Quote from above: "the wealthy can hire tutors or attend private schools and mitigate these throttlings, but this now produces exactly the inequality you sought to remove and shifts it to class vs ability. you’ve made a meritocracy into an aristocracy based on wealth and tried to call it equity." Brilliant stuff made simple. We need broad based understanding of this concept.
You must be spending time in the weight room of honest, thoughtful, reasoned, intellectual journalism. Each posting is stronger than the last, and you began an Olympic level weightlifter from the start. Keep lifting.
It’ll take time, even if “pay the child not the school” is fully implemented in a state, the state media will under report or lie about results, even if they are earth shattering. Look at COVID. Florida has shown us how to do it, and CA/NY/MI has shown then opposite, yet people still refuse to acknowledge and the media hides it. But the truth shall reign
You are absolutely right, and yet even conservatives these days seem to have abandoned the idea of school choice. How do we make that a political priority again?
Of course I agree in large part, Bad Cat. However, one tiny point of contention remains. I do not think public education, in the U.S. specifically, was ever NOT about indoctrination to a large degree. Pretty sure Horace Mann, and his band of pseudo eugenicists--although that might be a little of an over-the-top description--intended that public schooling would generate "good citizens." That means, in my view, people who were satisfied installing bumpers all day, in contrast to independent thinkers, questioning every edict sent down from on high. Certainly, removal of advanced courses is a horrible idea, for all the reasons you note, but school itself always seemed to serve a purpose somewhat unrelated to advanced learning. Am I mistaken in this premise?
Cars made by the DMV had a precedent in East Germany, the "Trabant", an actual meme for the whole socialist concept and also to what the US public education is about to become.
Our town in RI trying to “de level” our schools that were top 1% in country. School comm and Super tried to pull a fast one and not tell the residents. People pissed as they see their huge taxes that they are willing to pay for superior schooling vaporized. Along w property values soon. Participation medal culture is destroying the nation.
1. You talk about people who are told the deck is stacked against them so they’re destined to fail? What about disabled people both physically and mentally, visible and hidden? They have literal impediments and will be weaker on certain levels. Is the alternative to leave them to rot?
2. You talk about leaving education to the market. How do you protect from cult schools or Disney schools. Not all parents are bright enough to make the right choices.
Quote from above: "the wealthy can hire tutors or attend private schools and mitigate these throttlings, but this now produces exactly the inequality you sought to remove and shifts it to class vs ability. you’ve made a meritocracy into an aristocracy based on wealth and tried to call it equity." Brilliant stuff made simple. We need broad based understanding of this concept.
You must be spending time in the weight room of honest, thoughtful, reasoned, intellectual journalism. Each posting is stronger than the last, and you began an Olympic level weightlifter from the start. Keep lifting.
It’ll take time, even if “pay the child not the school” is fully implemented in a state, the state media will under report or lie about results, even if they are earth shattering. Look at COVID. Florida has shown us how to do it, and CA/NY/MI has shown then opposite, yet people still refuse to acknowledge and the media hides it. But the truth shall reign
You are absolutely right, and yet even conservatives these days seem to have abandoned the idea of school choice. How do we make that a political priority again?
Of course I agree in large part, Bad Cat. However, one tiny point of contention remains. I do not think public education, in the U.S. specifically, was ever NOT about indoctrination to a large degree. Pretty sure Horace Mann, and his band of pseudo eugenicists--although that might be a little of an over-the-top description--intended that public schooling would generate "good citizens." That means, in my view, people who were satisfied installing bumpers all day, in contrast to independent thinkers, questioning every edict sent down from on high. Certainly, removal of advanced courses is a horrible idea, for all the reasons you note, but school itself always seemed to serve a purpose somewhat unrelated to advanced learning. Am I mistaken in this premise?
Cars made by the DMV had a precedent in East Germany, the "Trabant", an actual meme for the whole socialist concept and also to what the US public education is about to become.
Our town in RI trying to “de level” our schools that were top 1% in country. School comm and Super tried to pull a fast one and not tell the residents. People pissed as they see their huge taxes that they are willing to pay for superior schooling vaporized. Along w property values soon. Participation medal culture is destroying the nation.
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This is so wrong. Makes me sad and angry.
Mr Gato, I have questions.
1. You talk about people who are told the deck is stacked against them so they’re destined to fail? What about disabled people both physically and mentally, visible and hidden? They have literal impediments and will be weaker on certain levels. Is the alternative to leave them to rot?
2. You talk about leaving education to the market. How do you protect from cult schools or Disney schools. Not all parents are bright enough to make the right choices.