so treating the vaxxed as “safe” has no basis in science.
this is no longer about virus. this is about punishment and compliance.
it’s about politics.
they are upping fines and going after employers. but not a peep about, for example, mandating vaccination for to qualify for welfare.
i’m certainly not recommending such a course, but forcing this on workers and employers (now with 10X the fines) but not even considering those on the dole (who tend to be less vaccinated) seems odd if your real goal is stopping the virus.
but it’s a powerful plank (with no end date) if you’re seeking to sink filthy claws into all the big businesses in america (while you get ready to come for the smaller one) and make them vassals of OSHA.
because if they can do this, they can do anything. wait until you see the climate and social justice heads of this hydra.
and “othering” through visible social markers has a truly nasty history. i am not saying we’re gearing up for a genocide here, but read the first 6 steps.
does it remind you of anything?
because those first 6 steps are the common start to all kinds of totalitarian structures and the “othering” and moralizing propaganda around a vaccine that is known not to protect others has gotten awfully shrill while this overt public marking to drive compliance or segregation/punishment puts us out on a nasty, wobbly edge.
you may not go in with the attention to commit an atrocity, but you’ve certainly set the stage for one by creating societal nitroglycerine. claiming you didn’t do it when it blows up is like leaving a pack of hyaenas to watch a kindergarten class and acting surprised when there are fewer kids when you get back.
this plan is as ineffective as it is unamerican and as contrary to human rights as it is likely to lead to further outrages against them.
it’s societal poison.
tell them no. those who rise and sick out and walk out and refuse to comply are winning all over the world.
become a part of it and drag this toxic edifice down before it finds root.
This is why I walked away from my job teaching at a blue state state university--because sure, they "accommodated" my RE, but part of the "accommodations" were the weekly testing and face-covering. I said none of these are acceptable and so got put on 100% remote teaching and EFF THAT. My last semester and seriously considering a move to a red state, tho I too, have fears that the feds can interfere there as well.
I am dismayed that my county has JUST reinstated an indoor mask mandate, for EVERYONE, again. I am amazed that most everyone I talk to or see has simply accepted the fact of the skam. I now have to be a "jerk" if I shop locally, and see who will let me get away with it (because the are also tired of the BS), or else drive 40 minutes to a county with no mandate. Let's face it, if EVERYONE refused, and refused to enforce, these mandates would wither away. But refusing is tough--some days you just want to buy more cat food and not have to have the transaction turn into a weird and negative confrontation. Like, you just want to go about your business and NOT have to TAKE A FUCKING STAND FOR FREEDOM just by trying to buy cat food with a naked face. It is insane. Esp in CA where everyone has absorbed the mind-virus and just walks around glazed-eyed okay-and-in-fact-happy with hidden faces. But I have to try. Maybe it will inspire someone else. Maybe the staff will 'fail to notice' or 'forget' about the (illegal) mandate. It is stressful, but necessary.
I have no doubt that requiring these alleged public health measures to qualify for federal aid is exactly what is planned; it will likely coincide nicely with whatever next manufactured crisis wipes out yet more independent businesses, and leaves people starving/homeless/etc.
Thank you for getting it. I'm so sick of people complying with ANY of it. We have to refuse all the ridiculous idiotic moronic exercises they try to put us through. NO testing. NO masking. NO 'social distancing'. It's all garbage. They know it, we ought to know it, but they've managed to brainwash most of the public.
NH has some wonderful red(white and blue) laws but like the sun king governor, the reality is far different than what is at face value. Total police state, high taxes(sorry not sorry high fees and property taxes) criminal and civil courts are beyond saving, plus all of the larger cities, 6 of them? Are pure commi. NH is lost in the sauce, some of the stupidest people I’ve met in the world. I think its the NE “educational system” that does it. The old yankee farmer mentality is long gone and NH is basically N. Mass.
nh is like the country, the cities blue, the country red.
the big nh towns are commie, there are too many places in nh that are like Austin tx. transplanted mass and ct, yes. the legislature is 600 for 1.2 million state, a lot of those are "don't tread on me" and more are solid republican. It is hard sometimes to believe the big towns get the congress decision!
In Northern California here...my county and next county over are fairly normal and have been so most of the time with the exception of a few months in the very height of the initial panic. There are "masking suggestions" but nothing seems to be enforced, and I actually don't know what the state of things are at this point. Most people do not wear masks, but there are always the scaredy kitties who wear them while driving alone, on bicycles, and in stores. My policy is to never don a mask voluntarily and I'll wait to be told to wear one. So far it hasn't happened yet. Not all of California is bat shit crazy.
Keep standing up! I know it is EXHAUSTING to have to stand up to the Crap just to buy cat food! Though I live in a county in CA (San Diego) that doesn’t really have a Public mask mandate indoors or out (but plenty of businesses have signs out requesting that you wear a mask) the majority of the time I’m still one of a handful of people who is NOT wearing a mask! But I don’t care! Even when I was up in NoCA where it is ‘Mask Mandate Nazi Central’ I never had it pulled up over my mouth & nose. And when I was a accosted by a punk 20 year old in a health food store in Sonoma County, I asked him if he was a doctor or had a medical License to ‘prescribe a medical device’ and enforce the wearing of it! That shut him up pretty pronto!
alot of us see through it, do not kid yourself. all over the world people are fighting, we just do not hear about it. keep the faith, remember what generations before us have endured and know the courage and blood of our forefathers is within us and that surely ignites us and will lead us to victory.
My sentiments exactly. The scariest and most frustrating part is that so many are going along. I even know people who’ve gotten their boosters and are quite proud of it.
Resist! Every single person who gets a jab is another loss!
I have often felt the same way, however, I do have hope. I think it’s going to come down to two things:
1. I predict many Americans are going to be super pissed when they can’t get Turkeys this Thanksgiving, and can’t get Christmas gifts for their kids. All sides are going to be crazy mad about this.
2. When the mandates reach their children (vaccination) it’s going to tip. That really is the final straw for most parents I know. Most who will begrudgingly comply with mask mandates and ridiculous quarantine rules are not going to sit by and allow that. I think that there are going to be issues with kids being vaccinated in school without parent permission too. It’s going to be an inflection point.
Really, up to now, most people are scared to speak out. I am part of a small group of parents who pushed back against our Catholic School mask mandate. Some families were expelled. We have been slowly and gently pushing for truth, transparency, and asking for facts. We got exemptions, and then recently they finally had to cave and take it away all together. I live in an extremely conservative area in Ohio- they still walk the kids in the public school to the neighboring church every week for religious education and worship during school hours. We are part of a large parish- nobody wears a mask at church so I know people are not on board, yet they complied.
My point is there is hope. It is going to get ugly and it will get worse before it gets better but this nonsense has woken up the small towns who just want to be left alone- they are mad. They are voting. I know several neighbors in our farming community who are voting for the first time. These are people who lock and load when they see a stranger coming up the drive- they don’t mess around. Factory workers, farmers, etc. are not going to put up with this. God help them if the day comes when they try to come to our town to tell any of us what to do.
I pray that it does not happen, but I believe that children will be injured and die from adverse reactions to the current medical products being advertised as vaccines. The CDC and FDA still will not recognize the case of 12 year old Maddie De Garay suffering extreme reactions and nearly dying after volunteering for the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine trial.
I feel the same way. How many 5, 6, or 7 year olds will know how to recognize heart inflammation? Or tell their parents that they feel a little discomfort or pain? And how many parents will disregard Susy's complains as some indigestion and ignore the flags? Sadly, many kids will not get the medical attention for their vax injuries in time to avoid permanent damage or worse. I see no other way out of this insanity. There will be a revolt.
Steve Kirsch wrote an opinion as to why Comirnaty is not currently available on Substack yesterday that is worth a read. Essentially, Pfizer has reduced the dose for children and changed the buffer, making the vaccine less effective in kids (who do very well with the virus anyway), but improves the safety profile. Once there’s no significant adverse effects and is given full authorization, it will have full liability immunity for all age groups as a fully-approved vaccine for pediatric use and in adults (not just as an EUA). Sorry, I can’t link the article. Big tech seems to be preventing me from copying the link. 🤦♀️
Here in the Bay Area parents are rushing to get their kids jabbed. Our schools offer vaccine ‘clinics’ in the parking lot with Safeway pharmacists. Parents are crying and sobbing with relief if you believe CNN and SFGate that their precious kids can be vaxxed finally in addition to mask wearing inside and outside! Relief!! What could ever go wrong…
Just a couple of weeks ago the good kitten was posting about the 15 signs of an abusive relationship, and now we are on to 10 stages of genocide (!). Granted, internet felines are always ahead of the curve, but humans must be waking up to this as well
WE see through it, though, and we need to be visibly not complying out in the world. WE can inspire others. Yes, I am angry at and also scared by all the comply-ers, but I need to have the humility to remember I do NOT know their personal situation, and the hope that they are just waiting for a different kind of permission, and that all of us acting up will inspire them.
I decided this morning it was compliance from government schooling which is probably worse than when I attended in the Dark Ages. Too much media consumption/propaganda? Maybe. All I know is “we have met the enemy and he is us.”
I have honestly been rooting for boosters to get pushed for some time now. I want what happened in Israel to happen in the States. "Oh no, you haven't gotten your 3rd booster? Well then you're not vaccinated!" Push more of us to the brink of frustration.
Exactly, I've been saying I can't wait for the day that my work starts requiring boosters and we'll see how all of our sheep employees that were so eager to comply with the mandate feel about getting their 3 or 4th shot. I know many had side effects and missed work after the first couple rounds. Good luck to them. Hopefully, my religious exemption will be accepted. I'm the only one at my office that didn't get the jab.
First, this is the opportunity to see if any R's have the backbone to say "NO" and go head to head with the feds. Claim they are sanctuary states, whatever. Stake their entire political careers on it. Any R governor that doesn't is not a leader. This IS their moment.
Second, if this goes forward - and it will in some states - we will see the equivalent of a national strike. Factories and other places of work won't function if they are missing too many people. Truckers if affected will just shut down commerce. Grocery stores won't be able to stock shelves. It is going to get UGLY.
Third, I just don't see the folks I talk with on a daily basis in factories giving in. The feds will have to back off - but the damage done will be incalculable.
this is the day we start ripping leviathan out of our lives and taking them back for ourselves and rise against unjust government to force its reformation.
To clarify, some of my very best friends among the factory workers I work with in multiple states will leave. They will feel betrayed by their employer. Regardless of how it works out, these workers that gave their heart and soul to their employer for years, will feel betrayed.. It will never be the same again, even if they end up only leaving temporarily. It's like seeing a train wreck in action. But.. sometimes you have to sink to the bottom to finally awake enough to change. This will do it.
Here in Silicon Valley, I am surrounded by true believers in all the "mitigation" measures, including lockdowns. They are largely a highly educated lot, and yet are shockingly ignorant of, and impervious to the actual data and reality.
These are people who felt nearly zero pain, as they are knowledge workers with large flats and houses and the ability to work remotely. The most common complaints during the lockdowns regarded having to clean their own houses and the closing of their favorite restaurants.
In other words, they have no skin in the game they advocate playing with other people's lives and livelihoods, an attribute they share with the leftist authoritarians they keep electing.
I'm convinced that in order for this to end, these are the people that must feel the effects of the destruction they have caused, and I'm afraid that a general breakdown is what it will take.
Yes. I’m here with you. People have to get financially or physically (vax effects) hurt to get it. For now everyone is swimming in ‘omg we are so smart and sciency and the best and need to show those evil anti vaxxers we are in charge’…
Exactly so. They have to FEEL it. I'll also add that being highly educated doesn't necessarily mean you are smart. Some of the dumbest, most closed-minded, least knowledgeable and least impressive people I've met were in higher education.
I would almost go so far to say that, at least there, there is an inverse relationship between education and critical thinking.
There are a few of of us here that have remained sane, but we are largely surrounded by herds of mask-wearing [1], virtue-signaling [2], hive-minded [3] true believers [4].
Preserving sanity and anger control are now daily mental exercises.
I've been here for over 30 years. It was not then like it is now, and I am really starting to dislike it here, despite all the numerous advantages. We have built careers and businesses here so it would be very difficult to leave, so we will remain Comrade Newson's subjects and tax slaves for the foreseeable future, keep hope alive and think about ways to get out.
[1] I estimate that on any given day, 30%-60% of people I see on my daily run/walks are masked outside, including their small children. People mask alone and together inside their cars.
[2] The "We Believe" signs, permutations thereof, BLM slogans and fists painted on peoples fences and on flags, are ubiquitous.
[3] Very occasionally some heretic manages to get escape the censors on Nextdoor (usually you will get the digest, click on the blaspheming link and it will have been removed) who presents actual facts and data and the poor bastard (always male) is mobbed by a gaggle of idiots only capable of parroting and defending whatever latest outrage triggered the heretic, without a refuting fact or data to be found.
[4] Only once before in my life have I seen anything like this, and that was in the run-up to Bush II's Iraq War. Being aware that the US had been lied into pretty much ever war it has ever fought, I watched as the gov-media complex incessantly ratcheted up the fear level my repeating lie after lie after lie and after lie. It was a mass hysteria, with the vast majority of our people calling for war against a country they could not place on a map.
Yes, this is what Dr. Mattias Desmet says about mass formation - all the highly educated become stupid as they lose their ability to think critically and rationally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLDpZ8daIVM He also says they are also the most vulnerable to mass formation.
Yes, I think this can play into a 2022 platform of shrinking the Federal Government and reversing the massive overstep of Federal involvement in individuals lives.
Here some the departments that need to go or shrink - UN, Education, Agriculture, EPA, OSHA, CDC and FDA. All of these have been corrupted by the industries they are tasked to monitor. (Am sure there are others' to add to the list)
Also, they need to remove immunity from prosecution for elected, appointed and career bureaucrats. Finally, the time-limit for criminal, negligent charges need to be extended to at least 10 years, or if it impact children, directly, no limit on prosecution and some crimes automatically disqualifies for your defense being paid-for by the very taxpayers you harmed.
One of my college certifications is in Industrial safety. I know OSHA can get a bad name, but the truth is, many of their rules really do a lot of good. I for one, would never want to work in a factory that didn't care about having and following safety rules. The EPA is more egregious in it's over reach, but would you want to live in a country where nobody cared about polluting? They serve a purpose. As for OSHA, this will take them down the same path as the CDC and FDA where they will lose all credibility.
Well, I did so "go or shrink," for that very reason.
I agree that some agencies probably do some public good. Unfortunately, some individuals have figured out how to use the regulatory bodies for their own benefit, which undermines the agencies purpose, all while staying "close" to regulatory mandates.
Am not convinced once a large organization becomes corrupted it can recover, as some of the most corrupt are very skilled at maintaining their position (blackmail?) which also deters honest individuals to stay.
Those very departments you want abolished or down sized don't work for us. They have all been captured. Ag works for BIG ag, Perdue and Monsanto. The CDC and FDA work for Pharma, cosmetic companies etc. Education works for the PMC. All those you named work for the 10%. We need to take the government back to working for our benefit so our tax dollars work for us and not the rich.
The FBI, CIA and DOJ need a thorough housecleaning and some sort of pest exterminator should be brought in as well. These bureaucracies are foul to the core.
...wish he could’ve kept his mouth shut till he got in there... he’s always talking about not revealing your strategy to the enemies ahead of time... i think it may have come as a surprise, the ferocity with which the deep state protects its cesspool...
Well gato, it’s nice to be “comfortable” isn’t it and not have to worry about job loss, not eating or feeding your kids? I have sympathy for Brian’s good friends. We all should. Yes, it is good to push back and they are, but they will also pay a heavy price they should not have to pay, the working people. And I support THEM.
Totally understand, Brian. It’s easy for people to feel “glee” who don’t have to worry about having enough to pay their rent, mortgage, food, clothing, etc, esp if they have kids. I don’t feel “gleeful” about the heartache and damage that is to come for the working people of this country for standing up and not submitting to these travesties. Not at all. I feel proud of them for standing up though and I support them wholeheartedly. I hope your friends come out the other side of this hard time, victorious.
I hope that people can walk out but people need to feed their families and pay the rent so I don't know how many will be able to do quit no matter how much they want to. This is a seriously big stick the government is using to force compliance. But, we have to fight this! We need to sue OSHA.
Germany and Belgium now how very high levels of sick people. I t is of course the fault of the few unvaccinated, and of the children. Belgian newspapers report the high numbers in positive tests in children, which of course, prove nothing, as they test with defective tests... and the dying and mostly elderly. Terrible. And everyone who has a say has been forced into silence. Doctors who dare speak up loose their license, even professors at the uni, newspaper who dare to publish an article against vaccines are being shut up. Nazi part 2
It is unconscionable what is happening!! I hate it! I am in the Netherlands. The teacher just asked a class of 11/12 year olds this week to raise their hands if they have already gotten the shot. Thereby tossing the very strict privacy act out the window.... Two kids raised their hands! Sad day.
In a normal world, that teacher should be fired. Not only because he did something unconstitutional, but because he promotes a product that is unconstitutional. The Nurnberg protocol forbids to use experimental drugs on people without knowledge of what they are getting. Because the government is behind all this, people think no further. Have we not learned our lesson - how can we ever trust a government? For thousands of years governments have plundered, abused and betrayed their people. Nothing has changed.
I'm not sure that she was promoting anything, it seems like it was just thoughtless curiosity since two kids were out with the virus. But I sent en email to the school asking why and no body has bothered to respond. I am very disappointed I may have to escalate, but I have an 8year old still in elementary and they're coming for her next I'm sure. But I absolutely agree that people have forgotten their history completely and it's very disheartening to see, especially amongst people who should know better.
We don't. Unless this whole mess comes to an end (and that won't happen I am afraid) we will never know. Numbers of tested people are published as if they are all sick, multiple time tested people are all counted as 'cases' - the test site here admitted doing that - the only number more or less reliable is hospitalizations and deaths, but how many are really from the virus? Several doctors report that most sick now have flu.
Watch John O'Looney (he is not a loon) an undertaker from the UK. HIs utube is amazing. He is speaking out vs. the NHS over there. They actually committed euthanasia on the elderly with midazolam and called it covid deaths. the interview will give you the chills.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIWul_nbMu8
serious stupidity would be amusing, but this is worse than stupidity........
On a serious alternative note, ever since I recovered from COVID last year, my life long cat allergies have disappeared. No joke! Is there really a silver lining to COVID that is being suppressed?
The hospitals in our area have just started implementing similar policies. I know one nurse who is on maternity leave, and she's required to come test every week, *even though she isn't working*. She won't go back to work for a month, but she's been told that she has to go test herself every week regardless, and report the results.
It doesn't make any sense if you still believe this is about "safety" or "science", she isn't a risk to anyone sitting at home alone with her child.
It only makes sense from the perspective of intentionally spreading fear, to garner more power and control.
If you want all those on welfare vaxxed, you hit the group that might get unemployment for being fired because of the shots. So you cannot really do that. But I would get all the government vaxxed. All of congress and all the mayors etc. See what happens.
and what is worse, federal employees will have any adverse event for a jab paid for. in private industry, bidens mandate will make the employer pay for it. what if it cripples someone or causes lifelong injury, how is a small business to endure that? Ahhh-"they" want to destroy small business, get it all corporate and have blackrock and vanguard take over.
I am sure it will be next to impossible for someone to get a doctor or coroner to say that it was the vaccine that f'd someone up. Their med license will be on the line, so they'll just say "inconclusive". This is insanely scary.
and I will take the copy of the death cert, cross out inconclusive and mark with indelible ink that it was a jab rxn. fight any way you can. and if you are injured. seek out media that will put you on tv, seek out lawyers to help tell your story, just Never shut up.
OSHA has suspended the rule regarding reporting vaccine injuries for a year to "not discourage vaccinations". The jab carries no liabilities for the maker. The employer is following the regulation so they won't have liability. It would fall on the government. Which means you apply to vaccine injury fund and wait years to see if the claim is approved.
they rarely pay out to anyone bc the patient has the burden of proof, its a crock of crap. and now to start jabbing children, its a sin. this goes beyond heinous.
Watching 12 Years A Slave helped me finally realize that what allowed slavery to be so "successful" was the visible difference. Same with the yellow star. If this gains traction we are indeed much farther down the road than we would like to admit. Some nightlife hotspots in my country have turned to wristbands to avoid the cumbersome and time consuming digital health pass. This shortcut to discrimination concerns me greatly.
Slavery in the United States was very unsuccessful unlike Africa which still has slavery or India where they still have indentured servitude.
Ending Slavery was on the agenda for many of the founding fathers including slave-owning Thomas Jefferson.
After the US fought numerous existential wars with foreign nations it then fought a civil war over slavery less than 100 years after its founding.
All different races of people owned slaves -whites, blacks and Native Americans. Slavery existed in the Americas when the first European explorers arrived and didn’t end within Indian territories until one year after the Civil War. Many European Americans came to the US as indentured servants or as prisoners.
It isn’t that someone looks different, It’s an attitude of superiority, complacency and conformity willfully ignoring or casually ignoring injustice of your fellow men along with the ability to ignore cognitive dissonance. It takes the ability to not only empathize with others by putting oneself in another’s shoes but to have humility that it could have been you but for the grace of god. Even then there are those who will point to scripture for justification while ignoring the bigger message taught by Jesus of Do Into Others and the Declaration of Independence All Men are Created Equal.
Life has no guarantees but death and taxes as they say! I love the mystery of the unknown. Can you imagine if we always knew what we were in for. This way, we learn resilience, honor, morality, work ethic and a fighting spirit. Those who are lazy and self-involved need not apply!
And I'll add, don't tell them why you will no longer use their business.
The tactic of shunning has been used effectively for thousands of years to move people's actions/behaviors. It's more powerful than yelling and sending letters because they can't argue with empty space or silence.
Because you are not going to convince them, anymore than a parent will convince their child to not date someone. At best, they'll ignore you, at worse they'll use some of your words to support their position and become more wedded to that position.
However, by not talking about it and ignoring the topic, and possibly ignoring the rabid believers, you deprive them of an audience, which they need to periodically shore up their confidence.
Ok this is a valid point, thanks for sharing! My MO has been to send an email explaining why I am canceling my memberships/subscriptions because I want someone reading it to register that the drop in income is coming from specific policies instead of wondering why no one is attending museums anymore, for example.
Well, now if your cancelling services, than I agree with telling them why.
CS departments get a lot of grief on why the subscription rate is dropping. This gives them cover, as it isn't CS that's the problem, but the organizations social position that is the problem.
No caving in my family thank goodness! We do not go where we are not welcome. Had to cancel our Museum Pass this week and Gym membership. So far, Nature is still free but that's about it.
Yes, being a lawyer you will be confronted with LCD's. I am one not primarily concerned with my own survival. Why? Because there are future generations to think about and they deserve sacrifice from us if needs must. I think about the past, what has been endured and the children of tomorrow. That's what is important and vital, imho; what world, nature, community, morals and ethics we leave for our children.
There are a lot of us, not to worry. Stand respectfully and proudly (proud in the best sense) defiant. Of course you are not nuts. And just bc someone has a high IQ or has a PhD or grad degree, does not mean they are not a cookie short of the jar. I have had the privilege to know many whose education consisted of graduating from the School of Hard Knocks and they are more resilient, smarter and more able than I could ever be.
All that education does is indoctrinate them. Ask any one of them who Smedley Butler was and few if any would know. And frankly they don't want to know!
Shaineh, I hate to admit it but I did not know who this was, but I do now. TY for a bit of history and education on this lovely day. When I was in school and university, I was not indoctrinated at all, guess I was lucky. Teachers taught the syllabus, not their personal views. So glad I am not a young adult in college now, heavens to murgatroyd!
It’s a reward that actually runs contrary to the stated purpose of vaccine mandates. How this cognitive dissonance isn’t apparent to everyone is maddening.
I don’t understand how any of this is enforceable - it seems like jingling keys and nothing more. Certainly is poison - “look at him in his mask, I knew Bob was antivax!!!” Around the water cooler
OSHA is whole cloth unconstitutional, of course - "To assure safe and healthful working conditions for working men and women" does not have grounds anywhere in I-8 or even 14A. Could be upturned at the slightest challenge. As far as I can tell, corporations like it as it forms a tax on would-be competitors.
In the meantime there's no limit on the power the act grants. The government can define "working" and "safe and healthful" as anything. Not really any other way to read the act besides a back door to government-controlled economic exclusion. Presumably the 50 years since 1970 have just been spent transitioning the corporate leaders into "party" sympathizers.
That seems to be a natural side-effect. Since corporate leaders are just the upper echelons of the same, broad PMC "party," which intuitively imbibes the ideological framework of the media, which is the mouthpiece of the deep state, manifesting devotion to the ideology is more important than the health of the corporation on whose boards they "serve." And as with any ideologically grounded party rule the elite are always being sniped by revolt, and everyone ends up miserable in the end. Only the framework itself benefits and survives.
Listening to MSM news in Germany. First news item: majority of germans in favour of Mandated vaccination. Second news item: child dies because of vaccination.
I am retired military and swat trained LEO, I am waiting to be told I can no longer get Medicare services because I will not take their poison jab, I know that is on the horizon watching every thing the boob in the white house is doing. I have recovered from lung cancer and need the medical services as a result of that issue, so which kills me first the lack of medical services or the government response to me telling them "fuck off" I will not comply. I am old but there is a lot of fight left in me, so let them bring it on, I will die a warrior, not a gutless coward
We have reached that point in our broadcast where logic is suspended and we just go with "because I said so." If the vaccines cannot stop transmission, then neither mandating them or masks based upon their usage makes any sense at all. One quibble with the piece you linked on masks. It says, "Face masks in the general population might be effective, at least in some circumstances, but there is currently little to no evidence supporting this proposition." No! We need to stop waffling on this mask bullshit. They. Do. Not. Work. Ever. There is NO EVIDENCE that says they do. Not "limited and confusing evidence" but none. You cannot argue against a "might" and we have been letting 'mights' hold sway for way to freaking long.
There's no waffling. One statement is true, and should be unobjectionable, because it's totally noncommittal and fact-based: "Face masks in the general population MIGHT be effective, at least in SOME circumstances." That is absolutely true, they MIGHT be, and only MIGHT be in SOME circumstances. It could also be said that "Face masks in the general population MIGHT contribute to lung disease." That is absolutely true, they MIGHT contribute.
It's what follows that you seem to be dismissing: "...there is currently little to no evidence supporting this proposition." Absolutely true as well.
Cat is only saying what *might* be, and then clearly states that there's no evidence to support the claim. But the absence of evidence is not evidence of the negative conclusion.
Maybe they do; maybe they don't; there's no evidence either way. All three are true, defensible statements. The money quote is that there's no evidence to support mask-wearing by the general public. THAT is why masks must be abolished, until and UNLESS they can be proven to be substantially effective when worn by the general public.
Which will never happen. Because masks don't work, as we all know.
As I said, cannot argue with a "might" and that is why masking will remain as an ostensibly viable choice, probably forever. Recall: They used masks in almost the same way back in 1918. In 103 years nothing has changed---no data, no experiments that prove they work, just mandates and B.S. In another 100 years, I can almost guarantee that masking will be mandated again, because... MIGHT. Noncommittal statements about bullshit should be called out. As you say, "...masks don't work, as we all know." And yet, here we are. Maybe "we all" don't know?
But just because they "might" provide some benefit is not sufficient reasoning to continue masking, because they very well also "might" cause harm instead.
Until there's definitive, credible, honest science proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that masks ARE beneficial, they should not and MUST not prevail.
This a fascinating discussion! (Thank you.) One of the things that struck me, as many of us attempted to use data that seemed incontrovertible, is how little that "proof" seemed to matter. Your point is spot-on. "Until there's definitive, credible, honest science proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that masks ARE beneficial, they should not and MUST not prevail." I think you are speaking of mandating them, and, of course, we agree. In terms of voluntary usage of a "MIGHT," I am cool with people using buttplugs if they think it protects them. Just don't make everyone use them, under the threat of a fine!
Exactly, yep. Anyone who wants to wear a mask (or buttplugs, for that matter), have at it. Anyone who wants to wear goggles and a face shield and a mask and a diving bell helmet, more power to you. But when they start messing with my freedom, trouble will follow.
I'd be willing to bet you and I and those of our ilk have spent FAR more time reading and researching about masks than most any of the mask Karens have. One of the things I go back to often is the New England Journal of Medicine report from April 2020. It says, among other things,
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal."
Face-to-face contact. With a symptomatic Covid-19 person. Contact sustained for at least a few minutes, and maybe as many as 30 minutes. And yet even though airplanes now COMPLETELY exchange cabin air every 2-3 minutes, making airplane cabins among the safest places to be...we are required to wear masks.
First of all, I am glad you did not cast an aspersions on butt plugs, because that would be a sign of toxic masculinity! Another bit of historical relevance is pertinent here. Back during one of the prior pandemics, they actually attempted to test if face-to-face contact was a transfer mechanism. They had convicts--and no, am not making this up--enter wards where patients were being kept, and stand face-to-face with those patients. They had the convicts breathe in and out, repeatedly. None of the convicts got sick! So, I have my doubts about face-to-face contact with COVID-19. And as a result, the whole 6-feet-to-glory thing drives me crazy! We are basically a species who still believes in the awesome power of the Lucky Rabbit's Foot, and the powers-that-be know it.
And yeah, you're right, we all DON'T actually know.
We don't know in EITHER direction. It's been 18 months since the Chinese virus arrived, and NO ONE in science or medicine has produced a definitive study proving masks' effectiveness. I suspect that's ON PURPOSE, and I suspect that's because they have a very good idea what the results would be, and it wouldn't be to masking's benefit.
Masks may in fact be perpetuating the problem, prolonging it, exacerbating it. Those places with severe mask mandates and penalties and enforcement were no better off, and in some cased were worse off, than places without mandates and/or without enforcement.
Precisely because they might do this or might do that - e.g. we have no effing clue - the mask Nazis need to be fought and defeated and destroyed.
Actually, and with apologies if this is already widely known, the CDC was told early-on that they SHOULD NOT attempt any RCTs on masking, because they *never* result in the desired outcome--showing that masking works. (Back when I was still unsure about masking, I attempted to dig into the data, history, analysis. In that quest, I read the minutes from one of the EARLY CDC confabs on the "coming pandemic.") You and I are aligned...
Also, the "vaccines" don't work and in fact are quite destructive and dangerous. Let's stop kowtowing to the mainstream narrative and call it what it is!
Cal-OSHA enacted a similar order months ago, as the traditional test bed for out-of-control government overreach. We don't comply. I would assume most companies in red states will not comply. If OSHA has the same percentage of inspectors that the FDA used for Covid vax trials (see yesterday's BMJ article about the Texas whistleblower), I think most companies will be OK.
Fully Vaccinated should object to this lethal order if they have even a slightest ability to analyze the outcome.
If Masks block anything at all from the unvaccinated and they are asked to wear it, It will be a maximum of 28 days before every single fully vaccinated person will be at risk of immune escape variants that are likely far more lethal to them transmitted from other fully vaccinated.
Mono-cropping is considered a risk in agriculture for the same reason, diversity allows competition between variants that slows down the evolution and reduce risk of run-offs.
Unvaccinated folks, if they were shedding at all, were going to shed variants the MaxxedVaxxed's immune system could likely deal with and reduce the likelihood of more lethal, less sensitive/more resistant variants completely getting a free run on their immunocompromised bodies. Variants that their other Fully Vaxxed buddies will be shedding due to Vaccinal selection.
I say, good for the Unvaccinated overall, it will prove once again, that the Project Salus DOD data showing maximum infections happening in Vaccinated when they took their masks off in the Summer to be correct.
They are making a BIG mistake. The unvaccinated are the only hope to slow viral evolution. They will just ratchet up the effect if they remove unvaccinated people's variants which are not selected for enhanced spread!
Those who think I am kidding. See this specific part of the V.E. Study from Ontario, Canada. Long Term Care Facility. See the person (Top Epidemiologist) struggling to explain or justify why Pfizer Vaccinated folks were getting more severe disease than unvaccinated. These people are completely letting the virus destroy our elderly. (Unlisted Video).
Listen carefully at 31:16 seconds. The guy literally said preceding the sentence "Maybe we can get away with a very low Vaccine Effectiveness" (Code for Enhanced acquisition of disease and spread) and that it was happening because "Everyone is vaccinated" "Everyone is wearing Masks".
So this is the top person in Canada Ontario who does Vaccine Effectiveness Studies and he's literally making excuses for why we should be fine with elderly being exposed to dangerous variants unleashed by the maxVaxxed.
Only two minutes, please watch it and understand the policy danger. notice the V.E. is only after 7 days of injection, so you know what the real V.E. would be if the 50% of the cases that happened were not censored. https://youtu.be/rBHv0RgSYT8?t=1772
Notice, Severe disease in 28 days column for Pfizer.
Prof Geert VandenBosch has stated this in several articles. You have to look at his own website, because he has been silenced by all other means. I just get a message from OCA that they have to publish 2 different pages, one for the censured press and a real one for the prescribers. Isnt it sad. Thanks for posting it. Won't be long un YouTube I am sure.
He has, the only thing missing from his analysis is the possibility of persistence and re-activation immediately after vaccination. He's been accurate about the epidemiology after the outbreak and the quiescence period but his unwillingness to entertain that the initial vaccination phase is likely contributing to the viral spread itself to begin with is not something he's said because I presume it would be instantly rejected by the community he's trying to persuade (other Vaccinologists).
Unfortunately, unless we admit that the mass vaccinations first appear to spread the virus at great risk to the recipient initially but then to the rest of the population later, there is little chance anyone will listen. Mostly because people like to believe they got higher absolute protection, when what they got was higher relative protection that will fade as soon as the comparator group is not rigged to make them feel that way (when the unvaccinated recover, or the injected but not counted as vaccinated are properly reckoned in the the death/hospitalization counts). Once folks notice that the protection was illusory due to inclusion of people who survived infection in their group and including people that got infected later by worse variants due to vaccine, they will understand what a big scam and subversion of scientific method has occurred.
It's like saying, a merger with a company that lead to the bankruptcy of a competitor is proof that the merger was a good idea. Even as the two companies that merged had operating profits before and now together make losses. But it's considered a great deal because it meant a third competitor company made even bigger losses faster due to their merger, so therefore, they have "Merger Effectiveness" score of 100%. They are protected.
Sure. but your companies were never going to go out of business, but now all three will.
If the people ever open their eyes. BigPharma has already transferred their astronomic gains to tax paradises... if the whole thing comes crumbling down, they will be gone like the wind. AS for the infections right after the jabs, that is easy to see. All countries have that. There used to be tables on YouTube and you could really see a spike right after vaxxing until about 3 weeks later. I think it was Cambodia who had no deaths yet when they started vaxxing and then went to 400 in a few weeks. Was it Japan where more people died from the jabs than from the virus? Unfortunately Sen. Johnson had his meeting on election day, and of course no one from the regular press reported on it. I f parents could have seen that 12 year old in a wheelchair, not able to feed herself, would they be so eager to jab their children?
In short: Viral Interference would have prevented massive run-offs due to heterogeneity and competition. Blocking the stuff that can stop the lethal variants by competing for resources will the kill shot Biden is asking for himself. Good. Do it.
I’m in an area that is heavily compliant, but the atmosphere is definitely changing. I haven’t worn a mask for months now, and I don’t follow any of the mandates. I don’t view myself as non compliant, as this puts out an energy that you get back. I compose myself before shopping and I’m attempting to keep my vibration high and see everyone with unconditional love. Show people love when they show fear. It brings their vibration up too, and forms a positive connection. This is how we unite people. The battle is really within ourselves. Have a solid foundation of awareness and they can’t touch us. The light has already won, we are just seeing the last of the pantomime playing out
Your words and proposed method of how to connect and relate to those experiencing such gripping fear are helpful. I'm concerned that many are on it for power and a desire to transform america into a Marxist regime.
I have a question about that graph el gato has shared many times from the UK data showing that the vaxxed get Covid at higher rates than the unvaxxed. I was discussing this with someone I know who is huge into numbers and stats and he said that lots of people (including el gato, Alex Berenson, and Ron Johnson) are misreading the report. He said:
"In defense of those using it, it's an inherently misleading chart." As an example, he says: "It gives every appearance of saying that among those 40-49 in England in that time period, those vaccinated were more likely to get sick than those unvaccinated. It appears to say that out of 100,000 vaccinated people in that age range, 1,281 got sick, and out of 100,000 unvaccinated people in that age range, 690 got sick. That would mean in that age range vaccinated people were twice as likely to get sick as unvaccinated people. And that's how it was interpreted by "bad cat" and Sen Johnson and countless others."
He said that to understand the chart/graph, it has to be understood in context of the vaccine efficacy chart in the same report and the "Interpretation of the Data" section of the report, which starts out: "These data should be considered in the context of vaccination status of the population groups shown in the rest of this report." He went on to say:
"It's not saying that out of every 100,000 vaccinated people in that age range, 1,281 got sick. But rather they're saying that out of every 100,000 of the full population of that age range, that there were 1,281 illnesses of people vaccinated. It's a convoluted way to present the data, and they knew it was misleading, and they published it that way anyway with a note talking about how misleading it is, which is very poorly done, but that's a different subject. So to get the data that the chart gives the impression of providing, as the caveat says, you need to apply the vaccination rate. So you would divide 1,281 by the approx 75% vaccination rate of that age group provided in the same document to get 1,705 illnesses per 100,000 vaccinated. And you would divide 690 by the 25% non-vaccinated rate in the age group to get 2,760 illnesses per 100,000 unvaccinated. So it's not that the vaccinated in that age range are twice as likely to get sick, it's that they're about half as likely to get sick. To verify that this is indeed the correct interpretation of the chart I looked up the total number of people in that age range in England, and divided the total vaccinated and unvaccinated illnesses and confirmed the same numbers."
He finished up by saying: "Out of 100,000 total population, of which 75% were vaccinated, 1,281/100,000 were vaccinated and sick, and 690/100,000 were unvaccinated and sick. So after the math, 1,706/100,000 vaccinated got sick, and 2,760/100,000 unvaccinated got sick. So the probability of the vaccinated in that age group getting sick compared to the unvaccinated was about 1,706/2,760 = 61%. I picked the 40-49 age group because eyeballing it, it looked like the worst case age group for the vaccine. Checking the same math for surrounding age groups, I get that for age 30-39 the probability of the vaccinated getting sick is 55% of the probability of the unvaccinated getting sick. And for 50-59 for the same measure I get 22%."
Can el gato or someone please address this? If he is correct, it means the UK data isn't at all as damning of vaccines as it looks by the graph. And it seems that if we're all interested in using facts to make our arguments, we want to be sure we're not falling into the error of relying on bad math or a wrong interpretation of the numbers to make our arguments, because it leaves vaccine questioners open to the charge of "mis/disinformation."
I brought this same issue up a few days ago - I had the same concerns as your friend. I ended up getting convinced that I (and hence your friend) were wrong. The data *is* valid - it's measuring "out of 100K vaccinated people, this many got sick" and "out of 100K unvaccinated people, this many got sick". It's not taking 100K random people and looking at what % of the sick subset were vaxxed vs non-vaxxed, which is what I and your friend were worried about.
Just fyi: I don't know if you'll get a notification of it, so I'm writing here to let you know I got a response from my friend re: objections to his argument made here and have posted it as a reply to my original comment. In case you're interested.
Z-Twig: Is that conversation where you were convinced otherwise accessible somewhere? Could you bring a link? Tell me where to find it? I'd like to read it.
To be clear, I don't think my friend was saying it was a random sample of 100K people. I think he was saying that the report's "Interpretation" section makes the point that the data must be read in context of vaccination rates for each cohort, and so though it is reporting numbers in terms of 100K of the population, those raw numbers reported for each age group must be adjusted to account for whatever is the vax/unvax rates for each age group. That seems different to me than what you were worried about...(?)
His bigger point was that the vaccine efficacy chart also provided within the report claims 75%-85% efficacy, which would totally contradict the data if the vaccinated in each cohort were up to twice as likely to get Covid, so he said there has to be a way of explaining all the data that reconciles the numbers and claims. That's how he ended up calculating using 100K of the cohort population, and according to him, he verified the results of his calculations separately by looking up the cohort population and Covid rates. Honestly I don't know what to think. I'm not bad a math, but statistics are not my strong suit.
If you have more info to clarify the argument/data I'd love to see it. Thanks!
I refer you to my comment above. UKHSA has not changed their vaccine efficacy claims since the first report dropped for week 39, while the infection rate for the fully vaxxed age 40-49 has nearly doubled.
They do have foot notes for the table...nothing about per 100,000 applying to the population of all people in an age cohort.
Why would UKHSA continue to put out reports that make the vaccines appear worse than they are? They wouldn't.
Why was there such an outcry about the data source for the percent of the population that is unvaxxed?
Oops...CORRECTION: the efficacy chart shows, with "high confidence," that the Pfizer vax is 80-90% effective against symptomatic disease, and the AZ vax is 65-75%.
True, but the "Interpretation" section specifies that "These data should be considered in the context of vaccination status of the population groups
shown in the rest of this report." And the "per 100K" doesn't specify that it's a reference to the age cohort. So from what I can tell it's unclear—that's why there is a question about it.
Your question in your comment above asking "why they would continue to put out data that makes the vaccines look worse than they are?" is a very good one. You claim "they wouldn't." But that's speculation— logical, but still speculation. In my experience bureaucracies do a crap ton of nonsensical and illogical things. So it's very much inside the realm of possibility that this is one of them.
No where in the reports do they claim that "per 100,000" refers to the entire population within an age group. I checked.
Why did some people object (loudly) to using the National Immunisation Management Service (NIMS) as the source data for the vaccinated and unvaccinated...if "per 100,000" meant per 100,000 in an entire age cohort in the population? It wouldn't matter.
If the data presented in the report made the jabs look worse...why hasn't the UKHSA corrected or amended the report? Why would they continue to put out a report that makes the jabs look worse than they are? They wouldn't.
The UKHSA reports say not to compare infection rates by vaccination status as an indicator of vaccine effectiveness and refers us to a table presented early in each report. The only thing that has changed in the table over the weeks is the colors they used.
In every report for weeks 39 through 44, UKHSA still claims the same high effectiveness against infection for all three vaccines. In that time, the infection rate for fully vaxxed age 40 and older has climbed from 1,225.5 to 2,124.6 per 100,000 . The infection rate for the unvaxxed age 40 and older has climbed 739.5 to 932.9 per 100,000.
If that were the case the ratio would exactly match the absolute cases. It does not. For three weeks ago, before they separated the charts: 13022/106492 - 772/1731 = not 0
I do think the denominator for the unvaccinated pop is not very reliable, and have stopped trusting the rate comparisons.
To elaborate, absolute case values are implicitly a rate in the unit "per total population." Per-100K values, your acquaintance claims, are *actually* calculated as "(per total population of age / total population of age) x 100000"
So the unvaccinated per total / vaccinated per total should equal any unvaccinated per 100k of age / vaccinated per 100k of age ratio. If there's a difference, than the per-100k value isn't using total population of age, but some calculation of "total vaccinated population" and "total unvaccinated population."
The next report dropped. Do you seen anywhere in the report where "100,000 of the full population of that age range" rather than 100,000 of the vaxxed or unvaxxed is declared. I don't see it. I've always assumed that the numbers were normalized for the vaxxed and unvaxxed populations. It's really hard to believe the UKHSA would put out a report that makes the jabs look worse than they are.
I've been putting off having to grok the redesign which is why I used week 42. It wouldn't matter what they declare, the ratio - ratio would equal 0 if the "per total of age" is used
Thanks for your reply, Brian. I'm not sure I follow exactly what you're saying (not sure what ratio you're referring to—I'm not super familiar with the data), but I'm going to forward your argument and see what he says. Thanks again.
So I sent the responses I got from readers here to my friend and he replied as follows:
I looked up again the England census numbers so I could walk through the math I did to confirm what those ratios meant, but in the process I discovered that I had made a math error and was incorrect. So I was in fact wrong about the denominators of the numbers being total population, and I confirmed that they do actually represent the infections per 100k vaxed and 100k unvaxed. That's...very embarrassing for me, as I failed at following my own advice to put in enough time and care to make sure I got it right before posting on the subject... but I'd rather be embarrassed and get it right now, than be unembarrassed and be mistaken, so thank you for following up.
With that corrected, I want to look at the full context of the report, to figure out what can be surmised from those numbers, since the other objections to how that chart is being used remain. The link to the report again is here:
The report has two halves. The first half is on Vaccine Effectiveness. The second half is on Population Impact. The methodologies in the two halves are different, as the first one tries to isolate information about how effective the vaccines are using studies designed for that purpose. The second half is mostly raw outcomes by demographic. It shows how vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are affected, but does not try in any way to sort out factors behind the effects.
Here's the study that the first half references to establish vaccine effectiveness against infection, and below, the chart from that study that breaks it down more specifically, showing that for any of the vaccines used, for the 40-65 age group, the minimum efficacy against infection was over 50%, 20+ weeks after being vaccinated. So based on that -- isolated from other factors -- in the time frame we're looking at, if that's true, 40-somethings who got the vaccine should be half as likely to get infected as those who didn't.
Contrast that with the chart from the Population Impact chart that's being shared, which says that vaccinated 40-somethings in that time period got infected at twice the rate as unvaccinated. That's obviously a little surprising on the surface considering the other result. But the difference between the two measures is that the first measure uses a methodology to remove confounding factors that could be associated with people getting vaccinated, and the second measure does not. So in other words, if we accept all the findings of the report as true, then the vaccine itself makes 40-somethings in this time period half as likely to be infected, but something else correlating to getting vaccinated is making them 4x more likely to get infected, which is resulting in a net effect of them getting infected at a net rate of twice as much as the unvaccinated. Well that's pretty extraordinary, which is why my first assumption was that that was probably not what the report is saying, but it is what it's saying.
So because of that difference, the chart in the Population Impact section comes with a warning right above it saying not to use the chart to evaluate vaccine effectiveness, but rather to use the information in the first section for that. The warning statement gives an example of one kind of confounding factor, which is the fact that people who are more at risk of getting sick are more likely to get vaccinated. But there are many other possible confounding factors as well. There are confounding factors about likelihood of someone to get tested, there are confounding factors in differences of behaviors of those who get vaccinated or don't, and behaviors of course change infection risk, and there are in fact restrictions placed on the behaviors of people who are unvaccinated as well, which I'll get to later.
So how does the first part of the report factor out all those confounding factors? You can't do it perfectly without a randomized controlled trial, but it does the next best thing, which is called a Test-Negative Case-Control Design, which means they sample everyone who seeks treatment for a respiratory infection before they've been tested for anything. So everyone they're sampling 1) engaged in some behavior that resulted in them getting infected with something, and 2) had such an immune system that didn't prevent them from getting infected with something, so that levels out the two major areas of confounding factors. Then of those, they see among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, how many of those respiratory infections end up being COVID and how many end up being something that isn't COVID. That's generally the most favored way of testing vaccine efficacy short of a large scale randomized controlled trial.
So since the report says that vaccinated 40-somethings got sick about twice as often as unvaccinated, but once you control for factors other than the vaccine itself, the vaccine made them half as likely to get sick... just pausing here, before making sense of that... because it really does need making sense of... Everyone sharing the chart from the Population Impact section is sharing it to claim that that chart is an indicator of vaccine efficacy, even though the report warns against doing so. None of them are sharing it along with that warning, or saying that the scientists who created the chart said it shouldn't be used for the purpose they're using it for, or saying why they think scientists are wrong that it shouldn't be used that way, and why they believe that the number in that chart is a more reasonable number to use to show vaccine efficacy than the number in the Vaccine Effectiveness section of the chart. So that's a problem with everyone sharing this chart for that purpose.
Then of course el gato in his article goes on to say that since this shows the vaccine has negative effectiveness, it's probably a case of Antibody Dependent Enhancement... but if it was it would of course be impossible for the test referenced in the first have of the report to show a positive vaccine effectiveness.
So my question for el gato would be, "Why are you using the chart that the authors say not to use to show vaccine effectiveness, to show vaccine effectiveness? Why aren't you using instead the chart they say is appropriate for showing vaccine effectiveness?" I think it's reasonable to assume that the reason is because the chart he used is the one that, if used that way, suggests a negative efficacy of the vaccine, and the chart the authors said to use showed a positive efficacy of the vaccine, and he preferred a result that showed a negative efficacy more than he preferred using the study that was appropriate for the purpose.
So that's all for the use of the chart, but the big question for me is how are these results possible? How can there be something correlated with being vaccinated that is making people 4x more likely to get sick? The report doesn't attempt to answer the question. The example of a confounding factor they give I don't think can reasonably explain it, at least not for 40-somethings where the spread is that large between the calculated efficacy and the population impact.
So thinking that it must be behavioral related, I tried to look up where most the transmission is happening in England. The common results I found was the mass attendance events was likely a -- or the -- major driver of transmission. I think that's also true in the US, based on sources I've seen here. Here are a few articles I found that seem to back that up, including for crowded outdoor events, some of these sources more scientific than others:
So then I tried to see what large events proof of vaccination are required for. There are a lot of such requirements, such as most large concert venues were requiring either proof of vax or a recent negative test, but one of the most significant things I found was that proof of vax was required for attending all Premier League football matches. Looking at their average attendance this year, that's about 400,000 fans -- all vaccinated -- who every weekend are attending these crowded mass events and then, as one article put it, pack all the surrounding pubs after the matches.
Add to that that the peak ages for attending Premier League matches are late 30's to early 50's:
That, or similar scenarios, I think provides a plausible explanation for a behavioral pattern for vaccinated 40-somethings in England that doesn't apply to unvaccinated 40-somethings, which could very plausibly increase their chances of getting infected by a factor of 4, and thus make the findings of the report plausible. If that is the true explanation, it would suggest that not attending such mass events is a better protection against infection (though not a better protection against severe disease or death) than the vaccine.
If the "per 100,000" doesn't mean "per 100,000" vaccinated and "per 100,000" unvaccinated...then the good people at the UKHSA should find a new line of work.
Also, who's your friend? And why doesn't he speak for himself?
As to your questions: 1) get real; 2) because he doesn't follow this blog.
Perhaps you should calm down and stop being so hostile. People are allowed to ask questions and seek clarification. Or have you stared into the abyss so long you're becoming the monster you're fighting...?
"Masks are more likely to lead to respiratory infections than saving you from being infected. The virus is 25X smaller than a smoke particle and the CDC admits that masks don’t protect you against wildfire smoke. In other words, masks don’t work… they never did. It is political theater designed to make people feel like they are protecting themselves."
I remember wearing a mask early on while in a supermarket and walking down the aisle that has the washing machine powders and all that stuff. I could smell the perfumed scents from the various detergents, my nose was burning and it made me cough. That experience made it pretty clear that something as microscopic as a virus could easily get through a mask laughably easily.
When I've tried to make the point above to maskoids, their eyes just glaze over. They don't have an argument to rebut what I said, and their brains seem to be flat lining. A clear inability to process new information contrary to their own beliefs.
David Icke (who predicted all this for the past 30 years) talks about the power of NO. NO to any of their insane moronic demands. NO to testing. NO to social distancing. NO to forced mask-wearing. We all say NO and this stops. If you do not say no to ALL OF IT then you have lost all semblance of self-respect. Stop caving to these people. They are morons who have been given power. They are not smarter than you, they are programmed people who were put in positions of power because of their soulless, plastic natures.
We can only get to the ones who are starting to 'get it' now. The others are hopeless. They are basically in a covid death cult and they don't want out. They are even willing to sacrifice their own children.
My hope is that even the people who have received the vac fight this. Because if they have any kind of buyer's remorse on the first two jabs, and don't want boosters, this OSHA rule I am sure, will require businesses to maintain employee records with vaccine status, and when you're due for a booster, ya better go get your booster to keep with compliance. THIS OSHA RULE NEEDS TO BE DOA! #LGB
They will not make the connection that this will include boosters until it is too late. And even then, they will think that it will be a one time booster. We are living in an idiocracy.
"this is no longer about virus. this is about punishment and compliance." It never was about the virus, even on day 1. There arguably is not even a virus. It hasn't been isolated, and the PCR tests don't work. There is a population fatality rate of less than 1% from said 'virus' which were mostly deaths from a plethora of other reasons. Also, people were drugged and killed on ventilators, killed with Remdesivir, etc. This was all planned out years and years ago. They tried to do this in 2009 but it failed. When people understand that the reason they have obvious and utter morons telling us to do moronic stuff, is more psychological than physical. And when you comply, they will ratchet it up even more. Until people wake up to the ruse, it's going to get worse and worse. Disobey indeed. We should have done that on day 1.
Have you noticed how plastic and villainous - like out of a bad Disney movie - the WEF puppet 'healthcare' leaders or even country leaders like Justin Trudeau or that Jacinda mess are? And people listen to these utter muppets? Really? It's been a nightmare trying to wake people up for 1.8 years. I think I will just become a hermit soon.
Just moved from Michigan to red state...the difference in anxiety levels from a population standpoint between the two is stunning. Moving was a godsend.
Preach! As a Covid survivor with multiple health conditions, I am angry and upset that I am demonized for not wanting anymore spike proteins in my blood. I still believe that I am dealing with the real ones from the infection, although I also think that long Covid is a scare tactic. I talked with my big boss this morning regarding my plans and my opinions. I even volunteered to be available for discussion should any of the powers that be care. Fortunately I’m medium age and have saved since I was 18. I think I can access retirement savings and live a different life in a different place as long as I can get some health insurance.
The world is upside down. Be strong all. I’m planning on it. Somebody has to lead and be the example. Join me.
Oh, when is the elephant party going to grow a pair? I’m happy to see the grass roots stories from Tuesday, but the top people need the message and quickly.
I love inquisitive kitties. Ours is black and is evil. Thanks for the service, Gato.
Time to fight folks. Max pressure needs to be put on ALL GOP pols to oppose this with actions, not words. We can start with Youngkin. He needs to deliver on the first day. We must be the Refuseniks!
Better yet, vote any GOP Rep or Senator who isn't publicly and ACTIVELY going against the mandates! Every last one of them. OUT THE DOOR, THEY'RE USELESS IN THE FIGHT FOR FREEDOM.
Contact Mike Braun, senator from Indiana leading a group of GOP senators to ensure this mandate through OSHA doesn't fly. Let him know your support then contact your own state senator and ask them if they are supporting this effort by Senator Braun and that you think they need to. I contacted PA senator Pat Toomey.. quite the lame duck, today. https://www.braun.senate.gov/contact-mike
Luckily I am not too far off. I am too far from Mexico, unfortunately. Why are all these Mexican people coming to the US? I t seems to really be better there. I read they give out Ivermectin in stands on the streets.
Most of the migrants are coming THROUGH Mèxico, they're not from Mèxico. Primarily from Guatemala, El Salvador. Last year it was brought up that Mèxico is officially a sanctuary country but nope...they continue through to the U.S. anyway.
it would seem there is a geographic sorting going on and I think that might be as worrisome as visible discrimination as it could lead to the civil war so many people seem to fantasize about...
Anyone out there waiting patiently and hopefully that one day, soon, TPTB; i.e., ultra-wealthy bankers and investors, will dial back on these restrictions is living in a dream world. TPTB have hitched their wagon to vaxx, vaxx, vaxx, of 7.9 BILLION people around the world in perpetuity as THE vehicle for endless profits, and nothing will stop them. Watch the increasingly draconian restrictions and mandates and you will see that no quarter will be allowed; nothing will stop them from exerting as much control over us as is humanly possible. The numbers of us who choose to disobey will dwindle under constant and relentless pressure until we are so few that we can fit in their newly-built concentration camps and either eliminated or forcibly injected with their poison. In that sense, I must respectfully disagree with the author; we have not yet reached peak "mandatory public signaling of outgroup exclusion." "They" have a long way to go, and many tricks in their little bag of tricks. It will get much, much worse before we even begin to see any glimmers of light at the end of this tunnel.
Those who are taking part of this medical experiment and have gotten the mRNA injections can carry and spread covid just as those who are normal.
If normal people are supposed to be subjected to testing and forced mask wearing, why should the injectors not need to be tested and masked as well? There is literally no difference in their likelihood of spreading the Wuhan flu.
No Mandate NYC protest sign ~ "You can not comply your way out of tyranny. We will not comply, we do not consent %$#@ your mandates." Bigger crowds every week too, we will prevail!! :~)
About masks being the most useless but degrading of the Convid rituals: They're among the most degrading and therefore the most useful. Coercion is and always has been the goal of the Convid scamdemic, which has never been about a virus.
Masks are dehumanizing. Ever notice how people wearing masks don't even really look at others? Masks are a tactic to dehumanize the masses and help make them compliant.
Rep. Andy Biggs has introduced a bill to abolish OSHA. I read yesterday, DeSantis plans to opt out of OSHA, totally legal, and create a state department instead.
All these scientific papers and these guys like McCullough, Kirsch etc etc are truly heroic. But theyre ignored. But such is The culture that we need a celebrity and a damn Tiktok video of some adverse reaction to stop this madness.
Failing that repeated boosters are the long game. Come shot 4 or 5 it must fall
I read an article yesterday or the day before written about an allegedly "vaccine hesitant" person that learned to trust the vaccine because they started following doctors and nurses on instagram that told them to get it. What a sad culture we have.
I live in Germany. Now I need a PCR test to sit in a restaurant. Not as bad as what’s happening in America, granted. But my God. The lessons of the past are not learnt. The dirty unvaccinated. Jordan Peterson says we make the mistake of identifying with the concentration camp victims when we should actually identify with the camp guards. That’s who we really are. The violence in the blood. The glee of enforcement and back door punishment and exclusion. People say were is your sense of humanity? But maybe this is what is means to be human. I am so ashamed. Look at us.
The amount of times needless WW2 comparisons are made in Germany by Germans. the number of times people compare any given political going’s on here to the Nazis is insane and almost always unwarranted. And the one time in all my years here in which there are are legitimate uncomfortable parallels to be made…they’re not being made. The majority of people here are in favour of forced vaccination. And it is forced. Nothing. Not a peep. We are under a spell. It’s hard for one to maintain ones sanity. It’s not so much that I should wear a yellow star it’s that most other people here should wear a bloody swastika on the sleeve
He puts forward the strategy of dealing with this, but we will, inevitably, go through the circles of hell first. As we've seen bu now, the enemy is well organized and way stronger than the rest of us. The main goal is to survive the looming bloodbath. Sad, but may be true. We'll see soon.
"This is no longer about virus. It is about punishment and compliance."
It's never been about virus. It has always been about power. Punishment and compliance are just a part of that. The masks, social distancing and lockdowns were all an elaborate social experiment to see just how much the ruling class could gaslight the masses into obedience. Even they were astonished at how much fear they could instill, and how much compliance they could exact.
Drunk with power after their early successes, they've been pushing the envelope ever since -- turning up the heat on us near-boiling frogs.
Along the way, they've destroyed small businesses and left the poor and much of the middle class wholly dependent on Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, Uber, Wal Mart, etc., for our livelihoods and our "stuff." Make no mistake, the leadership of those entities and many others are part of the ruling class. But, for the ruling class as a whole, it used to be a difficult proposition to control the masses. With the so-called pandemic, they eliminated the competition. Alternatives have been wiped out. Those who were wholly- or partially-independent are now subservient. They've tightened the screws and the reins. Control is difficult no more.
That is what this has been about since before they used their concerted actions to cancel Parler and re-frame 1/6 as an "insurrection." If you control the comms and everything else, you control the masses.
Let’s look at the big picture. How would Big Pharma, George Soros, and Bill Gates bilk the World out of $100’s of billions. Easy, make a highly contagious virus in the Wuhan Lab. Then expose people with existing comorbidities, such as stroke, hear disease, hypertension, obesity, diabetes, cancer which are the most important risk factors for comorbid mortality in elderly COVID-19 patients. Then in a few months they have an mRNA injection on the market to stop the virus and have Fauci convince Trump it is safe to be released on an FDA emergency order. Of course this has all been in the planning for years…..just watch old Bill Gates TechTalk on YouTube videos.
How do you scare the shit out of everyone to put the plan into action. You put Fauci on TV daily. Tell the CDC, WHO, and other Government Agencies, to count anyone that dies as being infected with COVID….if they test positive. To make sure as large number of people as possible test positive, use a new highly sensitive PCR testing method that shows nearly everyone is infected. Which in itself is probably true. That’s the way highly infectious viruses work. The virus infects everyone eventually, but 99.9% of peoples immune systems easily fight it off, never even realizing they were infected. But it is no longer about actual deaths, it is now about being infected. A meaningless fact. The PCR testing was used as a tool for propaganda and fear….it worked.
WALLA…you have a Faux Fauci CHINESE Pandemic with millions infected and only Fauci has a cure. Nothing else will work but his new elixir….mRNA injections. Of course no one tells you all of the above players have been directly and financially involved with the leading companies developing and selling mRNA injections for years. Doctors around the World that have successfully used other drugs now don’t know what they are talking about…they are quacks. Alternate treatments are now illegal. The President mentions a drug and it is quickly made illegal to prescribe. To have anything different than mRNA prescribed by your Doctor or buy; or to even discuss on the Internet any cure or method to strengthen your immune system, other than mRNA injections, is criminal and blocked. Only the Fauci elixir mRNA injections work and allowed. Of course if you get injected and die on the spot…..that’s on you. They have zero liability.
After 18 months the CDC says…..whoops that PCR test is not very accurate. We might have inflated those infection numbers a little…sorry to cause this panic and use a totally inaccurate method; while we have been running around shouting “the sky is ..the sky is falling… lock the world down, everyone wear a mask, close all business, get injected, get injected, get injected ….. (which they really never apologized for, in fact they have simply doubled down)
I am not saying COVID is not highly infectious or deadly….but so is the flu every year for many…especially the elderly.
The problem is that all the people that would probably died normally from age and comorbidity are now being moved to the COVID death column by hospitals everywhere. You have a deadly car accident and it is now death from COVID. Why wouldn’t they when they are being paid to do it and they need the money to survive in this shutdown. Hospitals receive a very nice Government bonus for deaths marked COVID.
Where is all this going? How do you prove this is a simply a game of propaganda, fear, and distorting the truth for money and power. You have all heard those claims before.
EASY...look at the graph below. Worldwide total deaths from everything per year over the last 70 years.
It is obvious the World has become a much safer place in the last 70 years when it come to disease and health, and is most likely the reason we have so many high comorbidity weaker elderly people alive today that COVID seems to attack first.
Total Worldwide deaths period from everything per thousand. Worldwide death rate was nearly 300% higher in the 50’s than today. Death has rapidly declined from over 20 to just over 7 deaths per thousand. There is no significant new surge in deaths around the World during this so called COVID pandemic. They are just shuffling numbers from one column to another.
The real fact is total Worldwide deaths per thousand graph does not supports a COVID pandemic….or any pandemic
I think it shows a biased COVID death book keeping system by our Government and the CDC, blaming deaths from other normal causes on COVID, which has been heavily influenced for money and power.
It will take one helluva surge to equal the risk of dying in the 50’s. If we do get a surge now many fear it may be from mRNA injections themselves weakening the secondary immune system….not COVID.
Of real concern is that a number of new research papers show that mRNA injections rushed to market may have other long term negative effects from man made Spike proteins into those that have been injected. Remember, the FDA skipped the part in normal approval procedures that requires long term testing on animals and humans before being approved. Years not months. mRNA injections have never been approve by the FDA for humans. mRNA genetic modification has never even worked effectively on rats in the lab. This is not a vaccine in the true sense it is a genetic modifier. But, of course approval gets much easier when many on the FDA board have direct past and present financial ties to Big Pharma and conflicts of interest.
RELAX….LIFE IS GOOD….LIFE WAS A LOT MORE RISKY YESTERDAY THAN IT IS TODAY. YOU JUST DIDN’T KNOW IT.
The lie only works for so long….the truth will come out!
“Italian newspaper Il Tempo reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes Toby Young.
Of the of the 130,468 deaths registered as official COVID deaths since the start of the pandemic, only 3,783 are directly attributable to the virus alone.
“All the other Italians who lost their lives had from between one and five pre-existing diseases. Of those aged over 67 who died, 7% had more than three co-morbidities, and 18% at least two,” writes Young.
“According to the Institute, 65.8% of Italians who died after being infected with Covid were ill with arterial hypertension (high blood pressure), 23.5% had dementia, 29.3% had diabetes, and 24.8% atrial fibrillation. Add to that, 17.4% had lung problems, 16.3% had had cancer in the last five years and 15.7% suffered from previous heart failures.”
The Institute’s new definition of a COVID death means that COVID has killed fewer people in Italy than (whisper it) the average bout of seasonal flu.
If a similar change were made by other national governments, the official COVID death toll would be cut by a margin of greater than 90 per cent.“
For anybody that listened to a reasonable portion of the FDAs advisory committee meeting that ultimately resulted in a 17-0 (with one abstention) vote to move vaccines forward for 5-11 year olds, one major theme was that they felt that the vaccine should be available to vulnerable children ("organ transplant recipients") but they were concerned that moving forward would lead to mandates.
Very well said. Would that people everywhere might try to seek out facts and think think things through for themselves. Thence, a truly potent peaceful disobedience movement might take shape.
Fear that this will just not be in the cards, however, after observing how pliant ordinary people everywhere have been for almost two years. And how so many resist any suggestion that they stop and think.
So there is a real possibility that post-covid times may be increasingly oppressive - with a majority of the people in most countries steadfastly stringing along with govt edicts, whatever those edicts might be.
this is nuts, Biden just issued I guess an official vaccine mandate, on twitter it was tweeted... yeah, this has NEVER been about a virus, thanks. Shouts of and screams of Let's Go Brandon all over the country
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This is why I walked away from my job teaching at a blue state state university--because sure, they "accommodated" my RE, but part of the "accommodations" were the weekly testing and face-covering. I said none of these are acceptable and so got put on 100% remote teaching and EFF THAT. My last semester and seriously considering a move to a red state, tho I too, have fears that the feds can interfere there as well.
I am dismayed that my county has JUST reinstated an indoor mask mandate, for EVERYONE, again. I am amazed that most everyone I talk to or see has simply accepted the fact of the skam. I now have to be a "jerk" if I shop locally, and see who will let me get away with it (because the are also tired of the BS), or else drive 40 minutes to a county with no mandate. Let's face it, if EVERYONE refused, and refused to enforce, these mandates would wither away. But refusing is tough--some days you just want to buy more cat food and not have to have the transaction turn into a weird and negative confrontation. Like, you just want to go about your business and NOT have to TAKE A FUCKING STAND FOR FREEDOM just by trying to buy cat food with a naked face. It is insane. Esp in CA where everyone has absorbed the mind-virus and just walks around glazed-eyed okay-and-in-fact-happy with hidden faces. But I have to try. Maybe it will inspire someone else. Maybe the staff will 'fail to notice' or 'forget' about the (illegal) mandate. It is stressful, but necessary.
I have no doubt that requiring these alleged public health measures to qualify for federal aid is exactly what is planned; it will likely coincide nicely with whatever next manufactured crisis wipes out yet more independent businesses, and leaves people starving/homeless/etc.
Please, don't just resist--REFUSE.
Thank you for getting it. I'm so sick of people complying with ANY of it. We have to refuse all the ridiculous idiotic moronic exercises they try to put us through. NO testing. NO masking. NO 'social distancing'. It's all garbage. They know it, we ought to know it, but they've managed to brainwash most of the public.
I'm in a red state school. No mask or Vax since November of last year. Not at stores, not in restaurants. It truly is a different world.
deep purple new hampshire, the commies rig the national elections but can't gut the patriots at state and local level.
no masks, no passes, no quarantined schools except in the larger towns where the commies run the schools with the unions.
we also have constitutional carry and relatively concealed carry sign up, but why bother since the commie then have lists.
I love visiting NH. Saw many blue Bostonians masked last year during winter hiking in the white mountains.. crazy folk!
NH has some wonderful red(white and blue) laws but like the sun king governor, the reality is far different than what is at face value. Total police state, high taxes(sorry not sorry high fees and property taxes) criminal and civil courts are beyond saving, plus all of the larger cities, 6 of them? Are pure commi. NH is lost in the sauce, some of the stupidest people I’ve met in the world. I think its the NE “educational system” that does it. The old yankee farmer mentality is long gone and NH is basically N. Mass.
nh is like the country, the cities blue, the country red.
the big nh towns are commie, there are too many places in nh that are like Austin tx. transplanted mass and ct, yes. the legislature is 600 for 1.2 million state, a lot of those are "don't tread on me" and more are solid republican. It is hard sometimes to believe the big towns get the congress decision!
may be the red wave in 22....
LOL--crying emoji, here!
At least you have red states in the States. Nowhere to run in Canada.
Plus you have that uber-muppet, Justin Castreau. What an utter POS he is. So sorry.
Who are the people that elect that moronic POS?
He was probably installed, much like our own WEF puppets here.
Did you see Jordan Peterson's 4 minute video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEWEEZ8rp24&t=192s about The Actor Castreau? Or as JP said, "not a real boy."
Hmmm. That's just odd.
"Not a real boy." Kind of like "Let's go Brandon!".
In Northern California here...my county and next county over are fairly normal and have been so most of the time with the exception of a few months in the very height of the initial panic. There are "masking suggestions" but nothing seems to be enforced, and I actually don't know what the state of things are at this point. Most people do not wear masks, but there are always the scaredy kitties who wear them while driving alone, on bicycles, and in stores. My policy is to never don a mask voluntarily and I'll wait to be told to wear one. So far it hasn't happened yet. Not all of California is bat shit crazy.
Keep standing up! I know it is EXHAUSTING to have to stand up to the Crap just to buy cat food! Though I live in a county in CA (San Diego) that doesn’t really have a Public mask mandate indoors or out (but plenty of businesses have signs out requesting that you wear a mask) the majority of the time I’m still one of a handful of people who is NOT wearing a mask! But I don’t care! Even when I was up in NoCA where it is ‘Mask Mandate Nazi Central’ I never had it pulled up over my mouth & nose. And when I was a accosted by a punk 20 year old in a health food store in Sonoma County, I asked him if he was a doctor or had a medical License to ‘prescribe a medical device’ and enforce the wearing of it! That shut him up pretty pronto!
The fact that so few people see through this is what scares me.
alot of us see through it, do not kid yourself. all over the world people are fighting, we just do not hear about it. keep the faith, remember what generations before us have endured and know the courage and blood of our forefathers is within us and that surely ignites us and will lead us to victory.
Well written and damn encouraging, Goosetheumfoodle. 👍
thx Gail, I have my moments!
Yep. Keep the faith, hold the line, refuse refuse refuse their insane and moronic orders.
My sentiments exactly. The scariest and most frustrating part is that so many are going along. I even know people who’ve gotten their boosters and are quite proud of it.
Resist! Every single person who gets a jab is another loss!
yup and now the children...
Your username reads like it could have come out of a Douglas Adam's book. Love it!
LOL. straight outta literature!
You should ask the booster boobs if they could get a discount by signing up for the subscription plan 🤣
😂😂
I have often felt the same way, however, I do have hope. I think it’s going to come down to two things:
1. I predict many Americans are going to be super pissed when they can’t get Turkeys this Thanksgiving, and can’t get Christmas gifts for their kids. All sides are going to be crazy mad about this.
2. When the mandates reach their children (vaccination) it’s going to tip. That really is the final straw for most parents I know. Most who will begrudgingly comply with mask mandates and ridiculous quarantine rules are not going to sit by and allow that. I think that there are going to be issues with kids being vaccinated in school without parent permission too. It’s going to be an inflection point.
Really, up to now, most people are scared to speak out. I am part of a small group of parents who pushed back against our Catholic School mask mandate. Some families were expelled. We have been slowly and gently pushing for truth, transparency, and asking for facts. We got exemptions, and then recently they finally had to cave and take it away all together. I live in an extremely conservative area in Ohio- they still walk the kids in the public school to the neighboring church every week for religious education and worship during school hours. We are part of a large parish- nobody wears a mask at church so I know people are not on board, yet they complied.
My point is there is hope. It is going to get ugly and it will get worse before it gets better but this nonsense has woken up the small towns who just want to be left alone- they are mad. They are voting. I know several neighbors in our farming community who are voting for the first time. These are people who lock and load when they see a stranger coming up the drive- they don’t mess around. Factory workers, farmers, etc. are not going to put up with this. God help them if the day comes when they try to come to our town to tell any of us what to do.
I pray that it does not happen, but I believe that children will be injured and die from adverse reactions to the current medical products being advertised as vaccines. The CDC and FDA still will not recognize the case of 12 year old Maddie De Garay suffering extreme reactions and nearly dying after volunteering for the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine trial.
I feel the same way. How many 5, 6, or 7 year olds will know how to recognize heart inflammation? Or tell their parents that they feel a little discomfort or pain? And how many parents will disregard Susy's complains as some indigestion and ignore the flags? Sadly, many kids will not get the medical attention for their vax injuries in time to avoid permanent damage or worse. I see no other way out of this insanity. There will be a revolt.
Steve Kirsch wrote an opinion as to why Comirnaty is not currently available on Substack yesterday that is worth a read. Essentially, Pfizer has reduced the dose for children and changed the buffer, making the vaccine less effective in kids (who do very well with the virus anyway), but improves the safety profile. Once there’s no significant adverse effects and is given full authorization, it will have full liability immunity for all age groups as a fully-approved vaccine for pediatric use and in adults (not just as an EUA). Sorry, I can’t link the article. Big tech seems to be preventing me from copying the link. 🤦♀️
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/heres-the-real-reason-comirnaty-is
I can't believe her parents allowed her to do that.
Here in the Bay Area parents are rushing to get their kids jabbed. Our schools offer vaccine ‘clinics’ in the parking lot with Safeway pharmacists. Parents are crying and sobbing with relief if you believe CNN and SFGate that their precious kids can be vaxxed finally in addition to mask wearing inside and outside! Relief!! What could ever go wrong…
:(
I was looking for some other info from our Nazi County Health Department and saw numerous news station links like this: https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2423405416676/st-joseph-county-health-department-begins-vaccinating-kids-aged-5-11 SICK, totally SICK.
Where in the Bay Area? In Contra Costa County the vax rate in 12-15 year olds is 88%
OMG...the Bay Area has gone insane! I predict a surge in demand for cardiologists in the near future. UGH!
San Mateo county. 12-15 rate is around. 90%… next target is the 5-11 year olds.
Just a couple of weeks ago the good kitten was posting about the 15 signs of an abusive relationship, and now we are on to 10 stages of genocide (!). Granted, internet felines are always ahead of the curve, but humans must be waking up to this as well
they just really don't want to see
They have no reason to see it. They agree with all of it and it makes sense to them. That’s the problem.
WE see through it, though, and we need to be visibly not complying out in the world. WE can inspire others. Yes, I am angry at and also scared by all the comply-ers, but I need to have the humility to remember I do NOT know their personal situation, and the hope that they are just waiting for a different kind of permission, and that all of us acting up will inspire them.
I like Peggy Hall for legal resources. https://www.thehealthyamerican.org/documents.
I decided this morning it was compliance from government schooling which is probably worse than when I attended in the Dark Ages. Too much media consumption/propaganda? Maybe. All I know is “we have met the enemy and he is us.”
you can't peel back layers off of a 💩
They go along with it because they like it. It works for them.
I have honestly been rooting for boosters to get pushed for some time now. I want what happened in Israel to happen in the States. "Oh no, you haven't gotten your 3rd booster? Well then you're not vaccinated!" Push more of us to the brink of frustration.
Exactly, I've been saying I can't wait for the day that my work starts requiring boosters and we'll see how all of our sheep employees that were so eager to comply with the mandate feel about getting their 3 or 4th shot. I know many had side effects and missed work after the first couple rounds. Good luck to them. Hopefully, my religious exemption will be accepted. I'm the only one at my office that didn't get the jab.
Good for you! Thank you. Keep fighting!
Many thoughts.
First, this is the opportunity to see if any R's have the backbone to say "NO" and go head to head with the feds. Claim they are sanctuary states, whatever. Stake their entire political careers on it. Any R governor that doesn't is not a leader. This IS their moment.
Second, if this goes forward - and it will in some states - we will see the equivalent of a national strike. Factories and other places of work won't function if they are missing too many people. Truckers if affected will just shut down commerce. Grocery stores won't be able to stock shelves. It is going to get UGLY.
Third, I just don't see the folks I talk with on a daily basis in factories giving in. The feds will have to back off - but the damage done will be incalculable.
I've been dreading this day..
i'm giddy with anticipation for it.
this is the day we start ripping leviathan out of our lives and taking them back for ourselves and rise against unjust government to force its reformation.
don't dread the workout, crave the gains.
To clarify, some of my very best friends among the factory workers I work with in multiple states will leave. They will feel betrayed by their employer. Regardless of how it works out, these workers that gave their heart and soul to their employer for years, will feel betrayed.. It will never be the same again, even if they end up only leaving temporarily. It's like seeing a train wreck in action. But.. sometimes you have to sink to the bottom to finally awake enough to change. This will do it.
I'm with you on the anticipation.
Here in Silicon Valley, I am surrounded by true believers in all the "mitigation" measures, including lockdowns. They are largely a highly educated lot, and yet are shockingly ignorant of, and impervious to the actual data and reality.
These are people who felt nearly zero pain, as they are knowledge workers with large flats and houses and the ability to work remotely. The most common complaints during the lockdowns regarded having to clean their own houses and the closing of their favorite restaurants.
In other words, they have no skin in the game they advocate playing with other people's lives and livelihoods, an attribute they share with the leftist authoritarians they keep electing.
I'm convinced that in order for this to end, these are the people that must feel the effects of the destruction they have caused, and I'm afraid that a general breakdown is what it will take.
Yes. I’m here with you. People have to get financially or physically (vax effects) hurt to get it. For now everyone is swimming in ‘omg we are so smart and sciency and the best and need to show those evil anti vaxxers we are in charge’…
I think you misspelled $ciency
I can relate to that particular population.
Exactly so. They have to FEEL it. I'll also add that being highly educated doesn't necessarily mean you are smart. Some of the dumbest, most closed-minded, least knowledgeable and least impressive people I've met were in higher education.
I would almost go so far to say that, at least there, there is an inverse relationship between education and critical thinking.
There are a few of of us here that have remained sane, but we are largely surrounded by herds of mask-wearing [1], virtue-signaling [2], hive-minded [3] true believers [4].
Preserving sanity and anger control are now daily mental exercises.
I've been here for over 30 years. It was not then like it is now, and I am really starting to dislike it here, despite all the numerous advantages. We have built careers and businesses here so it would be very difficult to leave, so we will remain Comrade Newson's subjects and tax slaves for the foreseeable future, keep hope alive and think about ways to get out.
[1] I estimate that on any given day, 30%-60% of people I see on my daily run/walks are masked outside, including their small children. People mask alone and together inside their cars.
[2] The "We Believe" signs, permutations thereof, BLM slogans and fists painted on peoples fences and on flags, are ubiquitous.
[3] Very occasionally some heretic manages to get escape the censors on Nextdoor (usually you will get the digest, click on the blaspheming link and it will have been removed) who presents actual facts and data and the poor bastard (always male) is mobbed by a gaggle of idiots only capable of parroting and defending whatever latest outrage triggered the heretic, without a refuting fact or data to be found.
[4] Only once before in my life have I seen anything like this, and that was in the run-up to Bush II's Iraq War. Being aware that the US had been lied into pretty much ever war it has ever fought, I watched as the gov-media complex incessantly ratcheted up the fear level my repeating lie after lie after lie and after lie. It was a mass hysteria, with the vast majority of our people calling for war against a country they could not place on a map.
Yes, this is what Dr. Mattias Desmet says about mass formation - all the highly educated become stupid as they lose their ability to think critically and rationally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLDpZ8daIVM He also says they are also the most vulnerable to mass formation.
This is fantastic, many thanks for sharing and I'll pass it along.
...ditto...
I can relate to that particular population.
Yes, I think this can play into a 2022 platform of shrinking the Federal Government and reversing the massive overstep of Federal involvement in individuals lives.
Here some the departments that need to go or shrink - UN, Education, Agriculture, EPA, OSHA, CDC and FDA. All of these have been corrupted by the industries they are tasked to monitor. (Am sure there are others' to add to the list)
Also, they need to remove immunity from prosecution for elected, appointed and career bureaucrats. Finally, the time-limit for criminal, negligent charges need to be extended to at least 10 years, or if it impact children, directly, no limit on prosecution and some crimes automatically disqualifies for your defense being paid-for by the very taxpayers you harmed.
One of my college certifications is in Industrial safety. I know OSHA can get a bad name, but the truth is, many of their rules really do a lot of good. I for one, would never want to work in a factory that didn't care about having and following safety rules. The EPA is more egregious in it's over reach, but would you want to live in a country where nobody cared about polluting? They serve a purpose. As for OSHA, this will take them down the same path as the CDC and FDA where they will lose all credibility.
Well, I did so "go or shrink," for that very reason.
I agree that some agencies probably do some public good. Unfortunately, some individuals have figured out how to use the regulatory bodies for their own benefit, which undermines the agencies purpose, all while staying "close" to regulatory mandates.
Am not convinced once a large organization becomes corrupted it can recover, as some of the most corrupt are very skilled at maintaining their position (blackmail?) which also deters honest individuals to stay.
Those very departments you want abolished or down sized don't work for us. They have all been captured. Ag works for BIG ag, Perdue and Monsanto. The CDC and FDA work for Pharma, cosmetic companies etc. Education works for the PMC. All those you named work for the 10%. We need to take the government back to working for our benefit so our tax dollars work for us and not the rich.
The FBI, CIA and DOJ need a thorough housecleaning and some sort of pest exterminator should be brought in as well. These bureaucracies are foul to the core.
...again, it’s a cesspool.
...that’s why they so viciously went after Donald Trump... he clearly telegraphed his ‘drain the swamp’ objective
...wish he could’ve kept his mouth shut till he got in there... he’s always talking about not revealing your strategy to the enemies ahead of time... i think it may have come as a surprise, the ferocity with which the deep state protects its cesspool...
I'm not sure I understand what you mean
Well gato, it’s nice to be “comfortable” isn’t it and not have to worry about job loss, not eating or feeding your kids? I have sympathy for Brian’s good friends. We all should. Yes, it is good to push back and they are, but they will also pay a heavy price they should not have to pay, the working people. And I support THEM.
It's almost like it's an intentional play to tank the economy, to cover up for reckless Federal Bank policies.
*Bitcoin users unaffected.
Qortal ftw
Totally understand, Brian. It’s easy for people to feel “glee” who don’t have to worry about having enough to pay their rent, mortgage, food, clothing, etc, esp if they have kids. I don’t feel “gleeful” about the heartache and damage that is to come for the working people of this country for standing up and not submitting to these travesties. Not at all. I feel proud of them for standing up though and I support them wholeheartedly. I hope your friends come out the other side of this hard time, victorious.
I hope that people can walk out but people need to feed their families and pay the rent so I don't know how many will be able to do quit no matter how much they want to. This is a seriously big stick the government is using to force compliance. But, we have to fight this! We need to sue OSHA.
I don't dread it, but overspent my budget 3 months in a row preparing. Aiming for 3+ months food stocks for me & my critter family.
Yes, they do seek chaos. It's in the Marxist playbook.
Germany and Belgium now how very high levels of sick people. I t is of course the fault of the few unvaccinated, and of the children. Belgian newspapers report the high numbers in positive tests in children, which of course, prove nothing, as they test with defective tests... and the dying and mostly elderly. Terrible. And everyone who has a say has been forced into silence. Doctors who dare speak up loose their license, even professors at the uni, newspaper who dare to publish an article against vaccines are being shut up. Nazi part 2
It is unconscionable what is happening!! I hate it! I am in the Netherlands. The teacher just asked a class of 11/12 year olds this week to raise their hands if they have already gotten the shot. Thereby tossing the very strict privacy act out the window.... Two kids raised their hands! Sad day.
In a normal world, that teacher should be fired. Not only because he did something unconstitutional, but because he promotes a product that is unconstitutional. The Nurnberg protocol forbids to use experimental drugs on people without knowledge of what they are getting. Because the government is behind all this, people think no further. Have we not learned our lesson - how can we ever trust a government? For thousands of years governments have plundered, abused and betrayed their people. Nothing has changed.
I'm not sure that she was promoting anything, it seems like it was just thoughtless curiosity since two kids were out with the virus. But I sent en email to the school asking why and no body has bothered to respond. I am very disappointed I may have to escalate, but I have an 8year old still in elementary and they're coming for her next I'm sure. But I absolutely agree that people have forgotten their history completely and it's very disheartening to see, especially amongst people who should know better.
that teacher should be fired, she/he is hired to teach, not take role call for the jabbed. pathetic.
or so they say, how do we know who has real numbers and who is fudging.
We don't. Unless this whole mess comes to an end (and that won't happen I am afraid) we will never know. Numbers of tested people are published as if they are all sick, multiple time tested people are all counted as 'cases' - the test site here admitted doing that - the only number more or less reliable is hospitalizations and deaths, but how many are really from the virus? Several doctors report that most sick now have flu.
Watch John O'Looney (he is not a loon) an undertaker from the UK. HIs utube is amazing. He is speaking out vs. the NHS over there. They actually committed euthanasia on the elderly with midazolam and called it covid deaths. the interview will give you the chills.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIWul_nbMu8
And that had already started before the flood - in November. So some people already knew about the coming of the 'pandemic' before it was one.
serious stupidity would be amusing, but this is worse than stupidity........
On a serious alternative note, ever since I recovered from COVID last year, my life long cat allergies have disappeared. No joke! Is there really a silver lining to COVID that is being suppressed?
That allergy change makes sense. Now you can follow El Gato Malo without symptoms.
interesting discovery. Covid suppresses allergies. Gosh, this could be the new cure for allergies: get covid
Weird. Do you think that has something to do with sense-of-smell effects?
wow, how interesting, thanks for sharing this.
The hospitals in our area have just started implementing similar policies. I know one nurse who is on maternity leave, and she's required to come test every week, *even though she isn't working*. She won't go back to work for a month, but she's been told that she has to go test herself every week regardless, and report the results.
It doesn't make any sense if you still believe this is about "safety" or "science", she isn't a risk to anyone sitting at home alone with her child.
It only makes sense from the perspective of intentionally spreading fear, to garner more power and control.
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If you want all those on welfare vaxxed, you hit the group that might get unemployment for being fired because of the shots. So you cannot really do that. But I would get all the government vaxxed. All of congress and all the mayors etc. See what happens.
and what is worse, federal employees will have any adverse event for a jab paid for. in private industry, bidens mandate will make the employer pay for it. what if it cripples someone or causes lifelong injury, how is a small business to endure that? Ahhh-"they" want to destroy small business, get it all corporate and have blackrock and vanguard take over.
I am sure it will be next to impossible for someone to get a doctor or coroner to say that it was the vaccine that f'd someone up. Their med license will be on the line, so they'll just say "inconclusive". This is insanely scary.
and I will take the copy of the death cert, cross out inconclusive and mark with indelible ink that it was a jab rxn. fight any way you can. and if you are injured. seek out media that will put you on tv, seek out lawyers to help tell your story, just Never shut up.
Exactly....
OSHA has suspended the rule regarding reporting vaccine injuries for a year to "not discourage vaccinations". The jab carries no liabilities for the maker. The employer is following the regulation so they won't have liability. It would fall on the government. Which means you apply to vaccine injury fund and wait years to see if the claim is approved.
they rarely pay out to anyone bc the patient has the burden of proof, its a crock of crap. and now to start jabbing children, its a sin. this goes beyond heinous.
Oh I certainly agree with you. Just pointing out how it will go. They are boxing people in purposely.
yup, we have to continue to push back hard as best we can.
Watching 12 Years A Slave helped me finally realize that what allowed slavery to be so "successful" was the visible difference. Same with the yellow star. If this gains traction we are indeed much farther down the road than we would like to admit. Some nightlife hotspots in my country have turned to wristbands to avoid the cumbersome and time consuming digital health pass. This shortcut to discrimination concerns me greatly.
Slavery in the United States was very unsuccessful unlike Africa which still has slavery or India where they still have indentured servitude.
Ending Slavery was on the agenda for many of the founding fathers including slave-owning Thomas Jefferson.
After the US fought numerous existential wars with foreign nations it then fought a civil war over slavery less than 100 years after its founding.
All different races of people owned slaves -whites, blacks and Native Americans. Slavery existed in the Americas when the first European explorers arrived and didn’t end within Indian territories until one year after the Civil War. Many European Americans came to the US as indentured servants or as prisoners.
It isn’t that someone looks different, It’s an attitude of superiority, complacency and conformity willfully ignoring or casually ignoring injustice of your fellow men along with the ability to ignore cognitive dissonance. It takes the ability to not only empathize with others by putting oneself in another’s shoes but to have humility that it could have been you but for the grace of god. Even then there are those who will point to scripture for justification while ignoring the bigger message taught by Jesus of Do Into Others and the Declaration of Independence All Men are Created Equal.
Hands clapping!
Also elitistism - in group vs out group, equity vs equality. Equity is equal outcome for unequal or a total lack of effort = slavery
Equality is equal opportunity but no guarantees equal outcome.
Life has no guarantees but death and taxes as they say! I love the mystery of the unknown. Can you imagine if we always knew what we were in for. This way, we learn resilience, honor, morality, work ethic and a fighting spirit. Those who are lazy and self-involved need not apply!
so just dont go anywhere that accepts this crap. boycott as much as you can. if you cave, you are a slave.
Exactly.
And I'll add, don't tell them why you will no longer use their business.
The tactic of shunning has been used effectively for thousands of years to move people's actions/behaviors. It's more powerful than yelling and sending letters because they can't argue with empty space or silence.
Curious why you say not to tell them? It's something I go out of my way to do....
Because you are not going to convince them, anymore than a parent will convince their child to not date someone. At best, they'll ignore you, at worse they'll use some of your words to support their position and become more wedded to that position.
However, by not talking about it and ignoring the topic, and possibly ignoring the rabid believers, you deprive them of an audience, which they need to periodically shore up their confidence.
Ok this is a valid point, thanks for sharing! My MO has been to send an email explaining why I am canceling my memberships/subscriptions because I want someone reading it to register that the drop in income is coming from specific policies instead of wondering why no one is attending museums anymore, for example.
Well, now if your cancelling services, than I agree with telling them why.
CS departments get a lot of grief on why the subscription rate is dropping. This gives them cover, as it isn't CS that's the problem, but the organizations social position that is the problem.
Was more about family, friends co-workers etc.
No caving in my family thank goodness! We do not go where we are not welcome. Had to cancel our Museum Pass this week and Gym membership. So far, Nature is still free but that's about it.
Yes, being a lawyer you will be confronted with LCD's. I am one not primarily concerned with my own survival. Why? Because there are future generations to think about and they deserve sacrifice from us if needs must. I think about the past, what has been endured and the children of tomorrow. That's what is important and vital, imho; what world, nature, community, morals and ethics we leave for our children.
There are a lot of us, not to worry. Stand respectfully and proudly (proud in the best sense) defiant. Of course you are not nuts. And just bc someone has a high IQ or has a PhD or grad degree, does not mean they are not a cookie short of the jar. I have had the privilege to know many whose education consisted of graduating from the School of Hard Knocks and they are more resilient, smarter and more able than I could ever be.
All that education does is indoctrinate them. Ask any one of them who Smedley Butler was and few if any would know. And frankly they don't want to know!
Shaineh, I hate to admit it but I did not know who this was, but I do now. TY for a bit of history and education on this lovely day. When I was in school and university, I was not indoctrinated at all, guess I was lucky. Teachers taught the syllabus, not their personal views. So glad I am not a young adult in college now, heavens to murgatroyd!
btw, what is SJW please?
thank you.
Remind me of the medical justification for making the unvaxxed wear a mask but not the vaxxed?!?
There is none. Zero.
It’s a reward that actually runs contrary to the stated purpose of vaccine mandates. How this cognitive dissonance isn’t apparent to everyone is maddening.
I don’t understand how any of this is enforceable - it seems like jingling keys and nothing more. Certainly is poison - “look at him in his mask, I knew Bob was antivax!!!” Around the water cooler
OSHA is whole cloth unconstitutional, of course - "To assure safe and healthful working conditions for working men and women" does not have grounds anywhere in I-8 or even 14A. Could be upturned at the slightest challenge. As far as I can tell, corporations like it as it forms a tax on would-be competitors.
In the meantime there's no limit on the power the act grants. The government can define "working" and "safe and healthful" as anything. Not really any other way to read the act besides a back door to government-controlled economic exclusion. Presumably the 50 years since 1970 have just been spent transitioning the corporate leaders into "party" sympathizers.
And is bigly used by the WEF.
That seems to be a natural side-effect. Since corporate leaders are just the upper echelons of the same, broad PMC "party," which intuitively imbibes the ideological framework of the media, which is the mouthpiece of the deep state, manifesting devotion to the ideology is more important than the health of the corporation on whose boards they "serve." And as with any ideologically grounded party rule the elite are always being sniped by revolt, and everyone ends up miserable in the end. Only the framework itself benefits and survives.
Listening to MSM news in Germany. First news item: majority of germans in favour of Mandated vaccination. Second news item: child dies because of vaccination.
I am retired military and swat trained LEO, I am waiting to be told I can no longer get Medicare services because I will not take their poison jab, I know that is on the horizon watching every thing the boob in the white house is doing. I have recovered from lung cancer and need the medical services as a result of that issue, so which kills me first the lack of medical services or the government response to me telling them "fuck off" I will not comply. I am old but there is a lot of fight left in me, so let them bring it on, I will die a warrior, not a gutless coward
We have reached that point in our broadcast where logic is suspended and we just go with "because I said so." If the vaccines cannot stop transmission, then neither mandating them or masks based upon their usage makes any sense at all. One quibble with the piece you linked on masks. It says, "Face masks in the general population might be effective, at least in some circumstances, but there is currently little to no evidence supporting this proposition." No! We need to stop waffling on this mask bullshit. They. Do. Not. Work. Ever. There is NO EVIDENCE that says they do. Not "limited and confusing evidence" but none. You cannot argue against a "might" and we have been letting 'mights' hold sway for way to freaking long.
There's no waffling. One statement is true, and should be unobjectionable, because it's totally noncommittal and fact-based: "Face masks in the general population MIGHT be effective, at least in SOME circumstances." That is absolutely true, they MIGHT be, and only MIGHT be in SOME circumstances. It could also be said that "Face masks in the general population MIGHT contribute to lung disease." That is absolutely true, they MIGHT contribute.
It's what follows that you seem to be dismissing: "...there is currently little to no evidence supporting this proposition." Absolutely true as well.
Cat is only saying what *might* be, and then clearly states that there's no evidence to support the claim. But the absence of evidence is not evidence of the negative conclusion.
Maybe they do; maybe they don't; there's no evidence either way. All three are true, defensible statements. The money quote is that there's no evidence to support mask-wearing by the general public. THAT is why masks must be abolished, until and UNLESS they can be proven to be substantially effective when worn by the general public.
Which will never happen. Because masks don't work, as we all know.
As I said, cannot argue with a "might" and that is why masking will remain as an ostensibly viable choice, probably forever. Recall: They used masks in almost the same way back in 1918. In 103 years nothing has changed---no data, no experiments that prove they work, just mandates and B.S. In another 100 years, I can almost guarantee that masking will be mandated again, because... MIGHT. Noncommittal statements about bullshit should be called out. As you say, "...masks don't work, as we all know." And yet, here we are. Maybe "we all" don't know?
But just because they "might" provide some benefit is not sufficient reasoning to continue masking, because they very well also "might" cause harm instead.
Until there's definitive, credible, honest science proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that masks ARE beneficial, they should not and MUST not prevail.
This a fascinating discussion! (Thank you.) One of the things that struck me, as many of us attempted to use data that seemed incontrovertible, is how little that "proof" seemed to matter. Your point is spot-on. "Until there's definitive, credible, honest science proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that masks ARE beneficial, they should not and MUST not prevail." I think you are speaking of mandating them, and, of course, we agree. In terms of voluntary usage of a "MIGHT," I am cool with people using buttplugs if they think it protects them. Just don't make everyone use them, under the threat of a fine!
Exactly, yep. Anyone who wants to wear a mask (or buttplugs, for that matter), have at it. Anyone who wants to wear goggles and a face shield and a mask and a diving bell helmet, more power to you. But when they start messing with my freedom, trouble will follow.
I'd be willing to bet you and I and those of our ilk have spent FAR more time reading and researching about masks than most any of the mask Karens have. One of the things I go back to often is the New England Journal of Medicine report from April 2020. It says, among other things,
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal."
Face-to-face contact. With a symptomatic Covid-19 person. Contact sustained for at least a few minutes, and maybe as many as 30 minutes. And yet even though airplanes now COMPLETELY exchange cabin air every 2-3 minutes, making airplane cabins among the safest places to be...we are required to wear masks.
First of all, I am glad you did not cast an aspersions on butt plugs, because that would be a sign of toxic masculinity! Another bit of historical relevance is pertinent here. Back during one of the prior pandemics, they actually attempted to test if face-to-face contact was a transfer mechanism. They had convicts--and no, am not making this up--enter wards where patients were being kept, and stand face-to-face with those patients. They had the convicts breathe in and out, repeatedly. None of the convicts got sick! So, I have my doubts about face-to-face contact with COVID-19. And as a result, the whole 6-feet-to-glory thing drives me crazy! We are basically a species who still believes in the awesome power of the Lucky Rabbit's Foot, and the powers-that-be know it.
And yeah, you're right, we all DON'T actually know.
We don't know in EITHER direction. It's been 18 months since the Chinese virus arrived, and NO ONE in science or medicine has produced a definitive study proving masks' effectiveness. I suspect that's ON PURPOSE, and I suspect that's because they have a very good idea what the results would be, and it wouldn't be to masking's benefit.
Masks may in fact be perpetuating the problem, prolonging it, exacerbating it. Those places with severe mask mandates and penalties and enforcement were no better off, and in some cased were worse off, than places without mandates and/or without enforcement.
Precisely because they might do this or might do that - e.g. we have no effing clue - the mask Nazis need to be fought and defeated and destroyed.
Actually, and with apologies if this is already widely known, the CDC was told early-on that they SHOULD NOT attempt any RCTs on masking, because they *never* result in the desired outcome--showing that masking works. (Back when I was still unsure about masking, I attempted to dig into the data, history, analysis. In that quest, I read the minutes from one of the EARLY CDC confabs on the "coming pandemic.") You and I are aligned...
But the mask is a vital component of covid theater.
Thank you! No more waffling.
Also, the "vaccines" don't work and in fact are quite destructive and dangerous. Let's stop kowtowing to the mainstream narrative and call it what it is!
In a word......Totalitarianism.
parallelize everything, let them compete with their masks and vaccines
Cal-OSHA enacted a similar order months ago, as the traditional test bed for out-of-control government overreach. We don't comply. I would assume most companies in red states will not comply. If OSHA has the same percentage of inspectors that the FDA used for Covid vax trials (see yesterday's BMJ article about the Texas whistleblower), I think most companies will be OK.
Fully Vaccinated should object to this lethal order if they have even a slightest ability to analyze the outcome.
If Masks block anything at all from the unvaccinated and they are asked to wear it, It will be a maximum of 28 days before every single fully vaccinated person will be at risk of immune escape variants that are likely far more lethal to them transmitted from other fully vaccinated.
Mono-cropping is considered a risk in agriculture for the same reason, diversity allows competition between variants that slows down the evolution and reduce risk of run-offs.
Unvaccinated folks, if they were shedding at all, were going to shed variants the MaxxedVaxxed's immune system could likely deal with and reduce the likelihood of more lethal, less sensitive/more resistant variants completely getting a free run on their immunocompromised bodies. Variants that their other Fully Vaxxed buddies will be shedding due to Vaccinal selection.
I say, good for the Unvaccinated overall, it will prove once again, that the Project Salus DOD data showing maximum infections happening in Vaccinated when they took their masks off in the Summer to be correct.
After all they have to eat, too. And I suppose they don't sleep with the thing on. Do they kiss? oh my....
They are making a BIG mistake. The unvaccinated are the only hope to slow viral evolution. They will just ratchet up the effect if they remove unvaccinated people's variants which are not selected for enhanced spread!
Those who think I am kidding. See this specific part of the V.E. Study from Ontario, Canada. Long Term Care Facility. See the person (Top Epidemiologist) struggling to explain or justify why Pfizer Vaccinated folks were getting more severe disease than unvaccinated. These people are completely letting the virus destroy our elderly. (Unlisted Video).
https://youtu.be/rBHv0RgSYT8?t=1772
Listen carefully at 31:16 seconds. The guy literally said preceding the sentence "Maybe we can get away with a very low Vaccine Effectiveness" (Code for Enhanced acquisition of disease and spread) and that it was happening because "Everyone is vaccinated" "Everyone is wearing Masks".
So this is the top person in Canada Ontario who does Vaccine Effectiveness Studies and he's literally making excuses for why we should be fine with elderly being exposed to dangerous variants unleashed by the maxVaxxed.
Only two minutes, please watch it and understand the policy danger. notice the V.E. is only after 7 days of injection, so you know what the real V.E. would be if the 50% of the cases that happened were not censored. https://youtu.be/rBHv0RgSYT8?t=1772
Notice, Severe disease in 28 days column for Pfizer.
Prof Geert VandenBosch has stated this in several articles. You have to look at his own website, because he has been silenced by all other means. I just get a message from OCA that they have to publish 2 different pages, one for the censured press and a real one for the prescribers. Isnt it sad. Thanks for posting it. Won't be long un YouTube I am sure.
He has, the only thing missing from his analysis is the possibility of persistence and re-activation immediately after vaccination. He's been accurate about the epidemiology after the outbreak and the quiescence period but his unwillingness to entertain that the initial vaccination phase is likely contributing to the viral spread itself to begin with is not something he's said because I presume it would be instantly rejected by the community he's trying to persuade (other Vaccinologists).
Unfortunately, unless we admit that the mass vaccinations first appear to spread the virus at great risk to the recipient initially but then to the rest of the population later, there is little chance anyone will listen. Mostly because people like to believe they got higher absolute protection, when what they got was higher relative protection that will fade as soon as the comparator group is not rigged to make them feel that way (when the unvaccinated recover, or the injected but not counted as vaccinated are properly reckoned in the the death/hospitalization counts). Once folks notice that the protection was illusory due to inclusion of people who survived infection in their group and including people that got infected later by worse variants due to vaccine, they will understand what a big scam and subversion of scientific method has occurred.
It's like saying, a merger with a company that lead to the bankruptcy of a competitor is proof that the merger was a good idea. Even as the two companies that merged had operating profits before and now together make losses. But it's considered a great deal because it meant a third competitor company made even bigger losses faster due to their merger, so therefore, they have "Merger Effectiveness" score of 100%. They are protected.
Sure. but your companies were never going to go out of business, but now all three will.
If the people ever open their eyes. BigPharma has already transferred their astronomic gains to tax paradises... if the whole thing comes crumbling down, they will be gone like the wind. AS for the infections right after the jabs, that is easy to see. All countries have that. There used to be tables on YouTube and you could really see a spike right after vaxxing until about 3 weeks later. I think it was Cambodia who had no deaths yet when they started vaxxing and then went to 400 in a few weeks. Was it Japan where more people died from the jabs than from the virus? Unfortunately Sen. Johnson had his meeting on election day, and of course no one from the regular press reported on it. I f parents could have seen that 12 year old in a wheelchair, not able to feed herself, would they be so eager to jab their children?
In short: Viral Interference would have prevented massive run-offs due to heterogeneity and competition. Blocking the stuff that can stop the lethal variants by competing for resources will the kill shot Biden is asking for himself. Good. Do it.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/i-see-we-have-now-reached-the-mandatory/comment/3490268
I’m in an area that is heavily compliant, but the atmosphere is definitely changing. I haven’t worn a mask for months now, and I don’t follow any of the mandates. I don’t view myself as non compliant, as this puts out an energy that you get back. I compose myself before shopping and I’m attempting to keep my vibration high and see everyone with unconditional love. Show people love when they show fear. It brings their vibration up too, and forms a positive connection. This is how we unite people. The battle is really within ourselves. Have a solid foundation of awareness and they can’t touch us. The light has already won, we are just seeing the last of the pantomime playing out
Your words and proposed method of how to connect and relate to those experiencing such gripping fear are helpful. I'm concerned that many are on it for power and a desire to transform america into a Marxist regime.
I’ve had a lot of fear, so I can understand your fear of Marxism
I have to stay present and not go down to their level
It’s been REALLY hard, but I’m trying to see it as a spiritual practice more than anything
I follow people online who have faith that this will all turn out in our favour
Big change is afoot, and I’m SO excited for the future
Let me know if there’s any support I can offer you xx
I like the idea of making this a spiritual practice. It's an opportunity to connect with others and perhaps be a change agent
Are you willing to share a few you follow online that are positive and uplifting? Thx
I have a question about that graph el gato has shared many times from the UK data showing that the vaxxed get Covid at higher rates than the unvaxxed. I was discussing this with someone I know who is huge into numbers and stats and he said that lots of people (including el gato, Alex Berenson, and Ron Johnson) are misreading the report. He said:
"In defense of those using it, it's an inherently misleading chart." As an example, he says: "It gives every appearance of saying that among those 40-49 in England in that time period, those vaccinated were more likely to get sick than those unvaccinated. It appears to say that out of 100,000 vaccinated people in that age range, 1,281 got sick, and out of 100,000 unvaccinated people in that age range, 690 got sick. That would mean in that age range vaccinated people were twice as likely to get sick as unvaccinated people. And that's how it was interpreted by "bad cat" and Sen Johnson and countless others."
He said that to understand the chart/graph, it has to be understood in context of the vaccine efficacy chart in the same report and the "Interpretation of the Data" section of the report, which starts out: "These data should be considered in the context of vaccination status of the population groups shown in the rest of this report." He went on to say:
"It's not saying that out of every 100,000 vaccinated people in that age range, 1,281 got sick. But rather they're saying that out of every 100,000 of the full population of that age range, that there were 1,281 illnesses of people vaccinated. It's a convoluted way to present the data, and they knew it was misleading, and they published it that way anyway with a note talking about how misleading it is, which is very poorly done, but that's a different subject. So to get the data that the chart gives the impression of providing, as the caveat says, you need to apply the vaccination rate. So you would divide 1,281 by the approx 75% vaccination rate of that age group provided in the same document to get 1,705 illnesses per 100,000 vaccinated. And you would divide 690 by the 25% non-vaccinated rate in the age group to get 2,760 illnesses per 100,000 unvaccinated. So it's not that the vaccinated in that age range are twice as likely to get sick, it's that they're about half as likely to get sick. To verify that this is indeed the correct interpretation of the chart I looked up the total number of people in that age range in England, and divided the total vaccinated and unvaccinated illnesses and confirmed the same numbers."
He finished up by saying: "Out of 100,000 total population, of which 75% were vaccinated, 1,281/100,000 were vaccinated and sick, and 690/100,000 were unvaccinated and sick. So after the math, 1,706/100,000 vaccinated got sick, and 2,760/100,000 unvaccinated got sick. So the probability of the vaccinated in that age group getting sick compared to the unvaccinated was about 1,706/2,760 = 61%. I picked the 40-49 age group because eyeballing it, it looked like the worst case age group for the vaccine. Checking the same math for surrounding age groups, I get that for age 30-39 the probability of the vaccinated getting sick is 55% of the probability of the unvaccinated getting sick. And for 50-59 for the same measure I get 22%."
Can el gato or someone please address this? If he is correct, it means the UK data isn't at all as damning of vaccines as it looks by the graph. And it seems that if we're all interested in using facts to make our arguments, we want to be sure we're not falling into the error of relying on bad math or a wrong interpretation of the numbers to make our arguments, because it leaves vaccine questioners open to the charge of "mis/disinformation."
El gato, thoughts?
I brought this same issue up a few days ago - I had the same concerns as your friend. I ended up getting convinced that I (and hence your friend) were wrong. The data *is* valid - it's measuring "out of 100K vaccinated people, this many got sick" and "out of 100K unvaccinated people, this many got sick". It's not taking 100K random people and looking at what % of the sick subset were vaxxed vs non-vaxxed, which is what I and your friend were worried about.
Just fyi: I don't know if you'll get a notification of it, so I'm writing here to let you know I got a response from my friend re: objections to his argument made here and have posted it as a reply to my original comment. In case you're interested.
Z-Twig: Is that conversation where you were convinced otherwise accessible somewhere? Could you bring a link? Tell me where to find it? I'd like to read it.
To be clear, I don't think my friend was saying it was a random sample of 100K people. I think he was saying that the report's "Interpretation" section makes the point that the data must be read in context of vaccination rates for each cohort, and so though it is reporting numbers in terms of 100K of the population, those raw numbers reported for each age group must be adjusted to account for whatever is the vax/unvax rates for each age group. That seems different to me than what you were worried about...(?)
His bigger point was that the vaccine efficacy chart also provided within the report claims 75%-85% efficacy, which would totally contradict the data if the vaccinated in each cohort were up to twice as likely to get Covid, so he said there has to be a way of explaining all the data that reconciles the numbers and claims. That's how he ended up calculating using 100K of the cohort population, and according to him, he verified the results of his calculations separately by looking up the cohort population and Covid rates. Honestly I don't know what to think. I'm not bad a math, but statistics are not my strong suit.
If you have more info to clarify the argument/data I'd love to see it. Thanks!
I refer you to my comment above. UKHSA has not changed their vaccine efficacy claims since the first report dropped for week 39, while the infection rate for the fully vaxxed age 40-49 has nearly doubled.
They do have foot notes for the table...nothing about per 100,000 applying to the population of all people in an age cohort.
Why would UKHSA continue to put out reports that make the vaccines appear worse than they are? They wouldn't.
Why was there such an outcry about the data source for the percent of the population that is unvaxxed?
Oops...CORRECTION: the efficacy chart shows, with "high confidence," that the Pfizer vax is 80-90% effective against symptomatic disease, and the AZ vax is 65-75%.
No where in the report do they claim that "per 100,000" refers to the entire population within an age group.
True, but the "Interpretation" section specifies that "These data should be considered in the context of vaccination status of the population groups
shown in the rest of this report." And the "per 100K" doesn't specify that it's a reference to the age cohort. So from what I can tell it's unclear—that's why there is a question about it.
Your question in your comment above asking "why they would continue to put out data that makes the vaccines look worse than they are?" is a very good one. You claim "they wouldn't." But that's speculation— logical, but still speculation. In my experience bureaucracies do a crap ton of nonsensical and illogical things. So it's very much inside the realm of possibility that this is one of them.
No where in the reports do they claim that "per 100,000" refers to the entire population within an age group. I checked.
Why did some people object (loudly) to using the National Immunisation Management Service (NIMS) as the source data for the vaccinated and unvaccinated...if "per 100,000" meant per 100,000 in an entire age cohort in the population? It wouldn't matter.
If the data presented in the report made the jabs look worse...why hasn't the UKHSA corrected or amended the report? Why would they continue to put out a report that makes the jabs look worse than they are? They wouldn't.
The UKHSA reports say not to compare infection rates by vaccination status as an indicator of vaccine effectiveness and refers us to a table presented early in each report. The only thing that has changed in the table over the weeks is the colors they used.
In every report for weeks 39 through 44, UKHSA still claims the same high effectiveness against infection for all three vaccines. In that time, the infection rate for fully vaxxed age 40 and older has climbed from 1,225.5 to 2,124.6 per 100,000 . The infection rate for the unvaxxed age 40 and older has climbed 739.5 to 932.9 per 100,000.
Something doesn't add up.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports
If that were the case the ratio would exactly match the absolute cases. It does not. For three weeks ago, before they separated the charts: 13022/106492 - 772/1731 = not 0
I do think the denominator for the unvaccinated pop is not very reliable, and have stopped trusting the rate comparisons.
To elaborate, absolute case values are implicitly a rate in the unit "per total population." Per-100K values, your acquaintance claims, are *actually* calculated as "(per total population of age / total population of age) x 100000"
So the unvaccinated per total / vaccinated per total should equal any unvaccinated per 100k of age / vaccinated per 100k of age ratio. If there's a difference, than the per-100k value isn't using total population of age, but some calculation of "total vaccinated population" and "total unvaccinated population."
FYI, I think some of the people...maybe all of the people...making this argument are, in fact, moles sent to discredit from within.
Either way the argument is the same, and misleading/wrong for the same reason.
The next report dropped. Do you seen anywhere in the report where "100,000 of the full population of that age range" rather than 100,000 of the vaxxed or unvaxxed is declared. I don't see it. I've always assumed that the numbers were normalized for the vaxxed and unvaxxed populations. It's really hard to believe the UKHSA would put out a report that makes the jabs look worse than they are.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1031157/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-44.pdf
I've been putting off having to grok the redesign which is why I used week 42. It wouldn't matter what they declare, the ratio - ratio would equal 0 if the "per total of age" is used
Lol. Paranoid much?
No. Not paranoid. Vigilant. There have been many. And I'm not the first to make the point.
Thanks for your reply, Brian. I'm not sure I follow exactly what you're saying (not sure what ratio you're referring to—I'm not super familiar with the data), but I'm going to forward your argument and see what he says. Thanks again.
So I sent the responses I got from readers here to my friend and he replied as follows:
I looked up again the England census numbers so I could walk through the math I did to confirm what those ratios meant, but in the process I discovered that I had made a math error and was incorrect. So I was in fact wrong about the denominators of the numbers being total population, and I confirmed that they do actually represent the infections per 100k vaxed and 100k unvaxed. That's...very embarrassing for me, as I failed at following my own advice to put in enough time and care to make sure I got it right before posting on the subject... but I'd rather be embarrassed and get it right now, than be unembarrassed and be mistaken, so thank you for following up.
With that corrected, I want to look at the full context of the report, to figure out what can be surmised from those numbers, since the other objections to how that chart is being used remain. The link to the report again is here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf
The report has two halves. The first half is on Vaccine Effectiveness. The second half is on Population Impact. The methodologies in the two halves are different, as the first one tries to isolate information about how effective the vaccines are using studies designed for that purpose. The second half is mostly raw outcomes by demographic. It shows how vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are affected, but does not try in any way to sort out factors behind the effects.
Here's the study that the first half references to establish vaccine effectiveness against infection, and below, the chart from that study that breaks it down more specifically, showing that for any of the vaccines used, for the 40-65 age group, the minimum efficacy against infection was over 50%, 20+ weeks after being vaccinated. So based on that -- isolated from other factors -- in the time frame we're looking at, if that's true, 40-somethings who got the vaccine should be half as likely to get infected as those who didn't.
https://khub.net/documents/135939561/338928724/Vaccine+effectiveness+and+duration+of+protection+of+covid+vaccines+against+mild+and+severe+COVID-19+in+the+UK.pdf/10dcd99c-0441-0403-dfd8-11ba2c6f5801
https://i.imgur.com/xI213Bx.png
Contrast that with the chart from the Population Impact chart that's being shared, which says that vaccinated 40-somethings in that time period got infected at twice the rate as unvaccinated. That's obviously a little surprising on the surface considering the other result. But the difference between the two measures is that the first measure uses a methodology to remove confounding factors that could be associated with people getting vaccinated, and the second measure does not. So in other words, if we accept all the findings of the report as true, then the vaccine itself makes 40-somethings in this time period half as likely to be infected, but something else correlating to getting vaccinated is making them 4x more likely to get infected, which is resulting in a net effect of them getting infected at a net rate of twice as much as the unvaccinated. Well that's pretty extraordinary, which is why my first assumption was that that was probably not what the report is saying, but it is what it's saying.
So because of that difference, the chart in the Population Impact section comes with a warning right above it saying not to use the chart to evaluate vaccine effectiveness, but rather to use the information in the first section for that. The warning statement gives an example of one kind of confounding factor, which is the fact that people who are more at risk of getting sick are more likely to get vaccinated. But there are many other possible confounding factors as well. There are confounding factors about likelihood of someone to get tested, there are confounding factors in differences of behaviors of those who get vaccinated or don't, and behaviors of course change infection risk, and there are in fact restrictions placed on the behaviors of people who are unvaccinated as well, which I'll get to later.
So how does the first part of the report factor out all those confounding factors? You can't do it perfectly without a randomized controlled trial, but it does the next best thing, which is called a Test-Negative Case-Control Design, which means they sample everyone who seeks treatment for a respiratory infection before they've been tested for anything. So everyone they're sampling 1) engaged in some behavior that resulted in them getting infected with something, and 2) had such an immune system that didn't prevent them from getting infected with something, so that levels out the two major areas of confounding factors. Then of those, they see among the vaccinated and unvaccinated, how many of those respiratory infections end up being COVID and how many end up being something that isn't COVID. That's generally the most favored way of testing vaccine efficacy short of a large scale randomized controlled trial.
So since the report says that vaccinated 40-somethings got sick about twice as often as unvaccinated, but once you control for factors other than the vaccine itself, the vaccine made them half as likely to get sick... just pausing here, before making sense of that... because it really does need making sense of... Everyone sharing the chart from the Population Impact section is sharing it to claim that that chart is an indicator of vaccine efficacy, even though the report warns against doing so. None of them are sharing it along with that warning, or saying that the scientists who created the chart said it shouldn't be used for the purpose they're using it for, or saying why they think scientists are wrong that it shouldn't be used that way, and why they believe that the number in that chart is a more reasonable number to use to show vaccine efficacy than the number in the Vaccine Effectiveness section of the chart. So that's a problem with everyone sharing this chart for that purpose.
Then of course el gato in his article goes on to say that since this shows the vaccine has negative effectiveness, it's probably a case of Antibody Dependent Enhancement... but if it was it would of course be impossible for the test referenced in the first have of the report to show a positive vaccine effectiveness.
So my question for el gato would be, "Why are you using the chart that the authors say not to use to show vaccine effectiveness, to show vaccine effectiveness? Why aren't you using instead the chart they say is appropriate for showing vaccine effectiveness?" I think it's reasonable to assume that the reason is because the chart he used is the one that, if used that way, suggests a negative efficacy of the vaccine, and the chart the authors said to use showed a positive efficacy of the vaccine, and he preferred a result that showed a negative efficacy more than he preferred using the study that was appropriate for the purpose.
So that's all for the use of the chart, but the big question for me is how are these results possible? How can there be something correlated with being vaccinated that is making people 4x more likely to get sick? The report doesn't attempt to answer the question. The example of a confounding factor they give I don't think can reasonably explain it, at least not for 40-somethings where the spread is that large between the calculated efficacy and the population impact.
So thinking that it must be behavioral related, I tried to look up where most the transmission is happening in England. The common results I found was the mass attendance events was likely a -- or the -- major driver of transmission. I think that's also true in the US, based on sources I've seen here. Here are a few articles I found that seem to back that up, including for crowded outdoor events, some of these sources more scientific than others:
https://voxeu.org/article/spread-covid-19-and-attending-football-matches-england
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/almost-5-000-covid-cases-linked-to-english-music-and-surf-festival-1.4654884
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-57667163
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/we-were-packed-like-sardines-evidence-grows-of-mass-event-dangers-early-in-pandemic
So then I tried to see what large events proof of vaccination are required for. There are a lot of such requirements, such as most large concert venues were requiring either proof of vax or a recent negative test, but one of the most significant things I found was that proof of vax was required for attending all Premier League football matches. Looking at their average attendance this year, that's about 400,000 fans -- all vaccinated -- who every weekend are attending these crowded mass events and then, as one article put it, pack all the surrounding pubs after the matches.
Add to that that the peak ages for attending Premier League matches are late 30's to early 50's:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1093943/share-of-british-adults-that-watch-men-s-premier-league-football-by-frequency-and-age/
That, or similar scenarios, I think provides a plausible explanation for a behavioral pattern for vaccinated 40-somethings in England that doesn't apply to unvaccinated 40-somethings, which could very plausibly increase their chances of getting infected by a factor of 4, and thus make the findings of the report plausible. If that is the true explanation, it would suggest that not attending such mass events is a better protection against infection (though not a better protection against severe disease or death) than the vaccine.
If the "per 100,000" doesn't mean "per 100,000" vaccinated and "per 100,000" unvaccinated...then the good people at the UKHSA should find a new line of work.
Also, who's your friend? And why doesn't he speak for himself?
Totally agree with your first statement.
As to your questions: 1) get real; 2) because he doesn't follow this blog.
Perhaps you should calm down and stop being so hostile. People are allowed to ask questions and seek clarification. Or have you stared into the abyss so long you're becoming the monster you're fighting...?
Steve Kirsch has a great comment that destroys the mask narrative at: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/my-vaccination-guide-for-parents
"Masks are more likely to lead to respiratory infections than saving you from being infected. The virus is 25X smaller than a smoke particle and the CDC admits that masks don’t protect you against wildfire smoke. In other words, masks don’t work… they never did. It is political theater designed to make people feel like they are protecting themselves."
Just think back to summer 2020. Everybody is too scared to leave their homes, so the government tells another 'noble lie' about how masks work.
I remember wearing a mask early on while in a supermarket and walking down the aisle that has the washing machine powders and all that stuff. I could smell the perfumed scents from the various detergents, my nose was burning and it made me cough. That experience made it pretty clear that something as microscopic as a virus could easily get through a mask laughably easily.
Also made it pretty clear you were still healthy. You could still smell things!
When I've tried to make the point above to maskoids, their eyes just glaze over. They don't have an argument to rebut what I said, and their brains seem to be flat lining. A clear inability to process new information contrary to their own beliefs.
...like trying to keep mosquitoes off your property with chain link fence...
💕the only utility I derive from mask... keeps my nose warm when it’s cold outside💕
David Icke (who predicted all this for the past 30 years) talks about the power of NO. NO to any of their insane moronic demands. NO to testing. NO to social distancing. NO to forced mask-wearing. We all say NO and this stops. If you do not say no to ALL OF IT then you have lost all semblance of self-respect. Stop caving to these people. They are morons who have been given power. They are not smarter than you, they are programmed people who were put in positions of power because of their soulless, plastic natures.
I agree with you. Say no. Refuse to comply. Unfortunately, there are many who are still mind numb. We must shock them out of their stupor. Now.
We can only get to the ones who are starting to 'get it' now. The others are hopeless. They are basically in a covid death cult and they don't want out. They are even willing to sacrifice their own children.
My hope is that even the people who have received the vac fight this. Because if they have any kind of buyer's remorse on the first two jabs, and don't want boosters, this OSHA rule I am sure, will require businesses to maintain employee records with vaccine status, and when you're due for a booster, ya better go get your booster to keep with compliance. THIS OSHA RULE NEEDS TO BE DOA! #LGB
They will not make the connection that this will include boosters until it is too late. And even then, they will think that it will be a one time booster. We are living in an idiocracy.
sadly true
Now is the time for our Normandy Beach moment. It only takes 10% to rise up! https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/time-for-our-normandy-beach-moment
and rise we shall.
A loud, obstinate "NO" is a more powerful weapon against tyranny than a lot of people realize. Make them enforce it. Make a scene.
Note how the administration dropped the OSHA ETS today to shift the dialog away from the Virginia election results.
"this is no longer about virus. this is about punishment and compliance." It never was about the virus, even on day 1. There arguably is not even a virus. It hasn't been isolated, and the PCR tests don't work. There is a population fatality rate of less than 1% from said 'virus' which were mostly deaths from a plethora of other reasons. Also, people were drugged and killed on ventilators, killed with Remdesivir, etc. This was all planned out years and years ago. They tried to do this in 2009 but it failed. When people understand that the reason they have obvious and utter morons telling us to do moronic stuff, is more psychological than physical. And when you comply, they will ratchet it up even more. Until people wake up to the ruse, it's going to get worse and worse. Disobey indeed. We should have done that on day 1.
Have you noticed how plastic and villainous - like out of a bad Disney movie - the WEF puppet 'healthcare' leaders or even country leaders like Justin Trudeau or that Jacinda mess are? And people listen to these utter muppets? Really? It's been a nightmare trying to wake people up for 1.8 years. I think I will just become a hermit soon.
Jacinda Ahern reminds me of the rodent-eating alien from V: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joVeMPodhIg
Let’s go Brandon!
We are in for some seriously dark times in this spiritual war. Hold the line. Pray.
But also buy food, ammo, crypto, and PMs
what are pms?
Precious metals 😊
Thank you!
You’re welcome!
yes, we are all being punished bc we are not obedient.
millionaires and other such people with bags of money get the attention of politicians.
off topic though, funny, this climate change thing. It is chilly outside and a few nights ago,
I did not hear the crickets singing. oh my.
punished, smunished, they can kiss my natural white ass.
Just moved from Michigan to red state...the difference in anxiety levels from a population standpoint between the two is stunning. Moving was a godsend.
But such a high price...to leave friends...and really shouldn't peace come from within regardless of the environment?
Preach! As a Covid survivor with multiple health conditions, I am angry and upset that I am demonized for not wanting anymore spike proteins in my blood. I still believe that I am dealing with the real ones from the infection, although I also think that long Covid is a scare tactic. I talked with my big boss this morning regarding my plans and my opinions. I even volunteered to be available for discussion should any of the powers that be care. Fortunately I’m medium age and have saved since I was 18. I think I can access retirement savings and live a different life in a different place as long as I can get some health insurance.
The world is upside down. Be strong all. I’m planning on it. Somebody has to lead and be the example. Join me.
Oh, when is the elephant party going to grow a pair? I’m happy to see the grass roots stories from Tuesday, but the top people need the message and quickly.
I love inquisitive kitties. Ours is black and is evil. Thanks for the service, Gato.
Time to fight folks. Max pressure needs to be put on ALL GOP pols to oppose this with actions, not words. We can start with Youngkin. He needs to deliver on the first day. We must be the Refuseniks!
Better yet, vote any GOP Rep or Senator who isn't publicly and ACTIVELY going against the mandates! Every last one of them. OUT THE DOOR, THEY'RE USELESS IN THE FIGHT FOR FREEDOM.
Contact Mike Braun, senator from Indiana leading a group of GOP senators to ensure this mandate through OSHA doesn't fly. Let him know your support then contact your own state senator and ask them if they are supporting this effort by Senator Braun and that you think they need to. I contacted PA senator Pat Toomey.. quite the lame duck, today. https://www.braun.senate.gov/contact-mike
Done. My OH R is a lame duck and I didn't even bother with the D
...but remember to be super nice to the people going along with it because they're scared, and being scared excuses moral behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense
Secession.
Move to Florida first maybe?
Luckily I am not too far off. I am too far from Mexico, unfortunately. Why are all these Mexican people coming to the US? I t seems to really be better there. I read they give out Ivermectin in stands on the streets.
not all are coming for the right reasons or for good intentions.
Most of the migrants are coming THROUGH Mèxico, they're not from Mèxico. Primarily from Guatemala, El Salvador. Last year it was brought up that Mèxico is officially a sanctuary country but nope...they continue through to the U.S. anyway.
it would seem there is a geographic sorting going on and I think that might be as worrisome as visible discrimination as it could lead to the civil war so many people seem to fantasize about...
... or prevent one. it's time for us to realign (physically). we plan to move to a state more aligned with our beliefs.
I very much hope so! It would at least give you and your family peace in the meantime and that is worth a lot. Good luck!
any red state.
Anyone out there waiting patiently and hopefully that one day, soon, TPTB; i.e., ultra-wealthy bankers and investors, will dial back on these restrictions is living in a dream world. TPTB have hitched their wagon to vaxx, vaxx, vaxx, of 7.9 BILLION people around the world in perpetuity as THE vehicle for endless profits, and nothing will stop them. Watch the increasingly draconian restrictions and mandates and you will see that no quarter will be allowed; nothing will stop them from exerting as much control over us as is humanly possible. The numbers of us who choose to disobey will dwindle under constant and relentless pressure until we are so few that we can fit in their newly-built concentration camps and either eliminated or forcibly injected with their poison. In that sense, I must respectfully disagree with the author; we have not yet reached peak "mandatory public signaling of outgroup exclusion." "They" have a long way to go, and many tricks in their little bag of tricks. It will get much, much worse before we even begin to see any glimmers of light at the end of this tunnel.
Those who are taking part of this medical experiment and have gotten the mRNA injections can carry and spread covid just as those who are normal.
If normal people are supposed to be subjected to testing and forced mask wearing, why should the injectors not need to be tested and masked as well? There is literally no difference in their likelihood of spreading the Wuhan flu.
OSHA is so corrupt. Ugh.
Indeed, disobey, it is our duty.
No Mandate NYC protest sign ~ "You can not comply your way out of tyranny. We will not comply, we do not consent %$#@ your mandates." Bigger crowds every week too, we will prevail!! :~)
Two points:
1. This is why 2A must be defended and protected at any and all cost
2. This is how you get a #SecondAmericanRevolution or #SecondCivilWar
About masks being the most useless but degrading of the Convid rituals: They're among the most degrading and therefore the most useful. Coercion is and always has been the goal of the Convid scamdemic, which has never been about a virus.
Masks are dehumanizing. Ever notice how people wearing masks don't even really look at others? Masks are a tactic to dehumanize the masses and help make them compliant.
Rep. Andy Biggs has introduced a bill to abolish OSHA. I read yesterday, DeSantis plans to opt out of OSHA, totally legal, and create a state department instead.
All these scientific papers and these guys like McCullough, Kirsch etc etc are truly heroic. But theyre ignored. But such is The culture that we need a celebrity and a damn Tiktok video of some adverse reaction to stop this madness.
Failing that repeated boosters are the long game. Come shot 4 or 5 it must fall
Apart. It must.
I read an article yesterday or the day before written about an allegedly "vaccine hesitant" person that learned to trust the vaccine because they started following doctors and nurses on instagram that told them to get it. What a sad culture we have.
I live in Germany. Now I need a PCR test to sit in a restaurant. Not as bad as what’s happening in America, granted. But my God. The lessons of the past are not learnt. The dirty unvaccinated. Jordan Peterson says we make the mistake of identifying with the concentration camp victims when we should actually identify with the camp guards. That’s who we really are. The violence in the blood. The glee of enforcement and back door punishment and exclusion. People say were is your sense of humanity? But maybe this is what is means to be human. I am so ashamed. Look at us.
Start wearing a yellow star. That will bring attention.
The amount of times needless WW2 comparisons are made in Germany by Germans. the number of times people compare any given political going’s on here to the Nazis is insane and almost always unwarranted. And the one time in all my years here in which there are are legitimate uncomfortable parallels to be made…they’re not being made. The majority of people here are in favour of forced vaccination. And it is forced. Nothing. Not a peep. We are under a spell. It’s hard for one to maintain ones sanity. It’s not so much that I should wear a yellow star it’s that most other people here should wear a bloody swastika on the sleeve
Sheep will follow other sheep off a cliff.
Again, listen to this expert on the subject matter: https://youtu.be/uLDpZ8daIVM?t=3923
He puts forward the strategy of dealing with this, but we will, inevitably, go through the circles of hell first. As we've seen bu now, the enemy is well organized and way stronger than the rest of us. The main goal is to survive the looming bloodbath. Sad, but may be true. We'll see soon.
"This is no longer about virus. It is about punishment and compliance."
It's never been about virus. It has always been about power. Punishment and compliance are just a part of that. The masks, social distancing and lockdowns were all an elaborate social experiment to see just how much the ruling class could gaslight the masses into obedience. Even they were astonished at how much fear they could instill, and how much compliance they could exact.
Drunk with power after their early successes, they've been pushing the envelope ever since -- turning up the heat on us near-boiling frogs.
Along the way, they've destroyed small businesses and left the poor and much of the middle class wholly dependent on Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, Uber, Wal Mart, etc., for our livelihoods and our "stuff." Make no mistake, the leadership of those entities and many others are part of the ruling class. But, for the ruling class as a whole, it used to be a difficult proposition to control the masses. With the so-called pandemic, they eliminated the competition. Alternatives have been wiped out. Those who were wholly- or partially-independent are now subservient. They've tightened the screws and the reins. Control is difficult no more.
That is what this has been about since before they used their concerted actions to cancel Parler and re-frame 1/6 as an "insurrection." If you control the comms and everything else, you control the masses.
Relax…..you are being conned.
It is a great time to be alive.😎
IS COVID REALLY A PANDEMIC?
Let’s look at the big picture. How would Big Pharma, George Soros, and Bill Gates bilk the World out of $100’s of billions. Easy, make a highly contagious virus in the Wuhan Lab. Then expose people with existing comorbidities, such as stroke, hear disease, hypertension, obesity, diabetes, cancer which are the most important risk factors for comorbid mortality in elderly COVID-19 patients. Then in a few months they have an mRNA injection on the market to stop the virus and have Fauci convince Trump it is safe to be released on an FDA emergency order. Of course this has all been in the planning for years…..just watch old Bill Gates TechTalk on YouTube videos.
How do you scare the shit out of everyone to put the plan into action. You put Fauci on TV daily. Tell the CDC, WHO, and other Government Agencies, to count anyone that dies as being infected with COVID….if they test positive. To make sure as large number of people as possible test positive, use a new highly sensitive PCR testing method that shows nearly everyone is infected. Which in itself is probably true. That’s the way highly infectious viruses work. The virus infects everyone eventually, but 99.9% of peoples immune systems easily fight it off, never even realizing they were infected. But it is no longer about actual deaths, it is now about being infected. A meaningless fact. The PCR testing was used as a tool for propaganda and fear….it worked.
WALLA…you have a Faux Fauci CHINESE Pandemic with millions infected and only Fauci has a cure. Nothing else will work but his new elixir….mRNA injections. Of course no one tells you all of the above players have been directly and financially involved with the leading companies developing and selling mRNA injections for years. Doctors around the World that have successfully used other drugs now don’t know what they are talking about…they are quacks. Alternate treatments are now illegal. The President mentions a drug and it is quickly made illegal to prescribe. To have anything different than mRNA prescribed by your Doctor or buy; or to even discuss on the Internet any cure or method to strengthen your immune system, other than mRNA injections, is criminal and blocked. Only the Fauci elixir mRNA injections work and allowed. Of course if you get injected and die on the spot…..that’s on you. They have zero liability.
After 18 months the CDC says…..whoops that PCR test is not very accurate. We might have inflated those infection numbers a little…sorry to cause this panic and use a totally inaccurate method; while we have been running around shouting “the sky is ..the sky is falling… lock the world down, everyone wear a mask, close all business, get injected, get injected, get injected ….. (which they really never apologized for, in fact they have simply doubled down)
I am not saying COVID is not highly infectious or deadly….but so is the flu every year for many…especially the elderly.
The problem is that all the people that would probably died normally from age and comorbidity are now being moved to the COVID death column by hospitals everywhere. You have a deadly car accident and it is now death from COVID. Why wouldn’t they when they are being paid to do it and they need the money to survive in this shutdown. Hospitals receive a very nice Government bonus for deaths marked COVID.
Where is all this going? How do you prove this is a simply a game of propaganda, fear, and distorting the truth for money and power. You have all heard those claims before.
EASY...look at the graph below. Worldwide total deaths from everything per year over the last 70 years.
It is obvious the World has become a much safer place in the last 70 years when it come to disease and health, and is most likely the reason we have so many high comorbidity weaker elderly people alive today that COVID seems to attack first.
Total Worldwide deaths period from everything per thousand. Worldwide death rate was nearly 300% higher in the 50’s than today. Death has rapidly declined from over 20 to just over 7 deaths per thousand. There is no significant new surge in deaths around the World during this so called COVID pandemic. They are just shuffling numbers from one column to another.
The real fact is total Worldwide deaths per thousand graph does not supports a COVID pandemic….or any pandemic
I think it shows a biased COVID death book keeping system by our Government and the CDC, blaming deaths from other normal causes on COVID, which has been heavily influenced for money and power.
Worldwide deaths per year.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/WLD/world/death-rate
It will take one helluva surge to equal the risk of dying in the 50’s. If we do get a surge now many fear it may be from mRNA injections themselves weakening the secondary immune system….not COVID.
Of real concern is that a number of new research papers show that mRNA injections rushed to market may have other long term negative effects from man made Spike proteins into those that have been injected. Remember, the FDA skipped the part in normal approval procedures that requires long term testing on animals and humans before being approved. Years not months. mRNA injections have never been approve by the FDA for humans. mRNA genetic modification has never even worked effectively on rats in the lab. This is not a vaccine in the true sense it is a genetic modifier. But, of course approval gets much easier when many on the FDA board have direct past and present financial ties to Big Pharma and conflicts of interest.
RELAX….LIFE IS GOOD….LIFE WAS A LOT MORE RISKY YESTERDAY THAN IT IS TODAY. YOU JUST DIDN’T KNOW IT.
The lie only works for so long….the truth will come out!
“Italian newspaper Il Tempo reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes Toby Young.
Of the of the 130,468 deaths registered as official COVID deaths since the start of the pandemic, only 3,783 are directly attributable to the virus alone.
“All the other Italians who lost their lives had from between one and five pre-existing diseases. Of those aged over 67 who died, 7% had more than three co-morbidities, and 18% at least two,” writes Young.
“According to the Institute, 65.8% of Italians who died after being infected with Covid were ill with arterial hypertension (high blood pressure), 23.5% had dementia, 29.3% had diabetes, and 24.8% atrial fibrillation. Add to that, 17.4% had lung problems, 16.3% had had cancer in the last five years and 15.7% suffered from previous heart failures.”
The Institute’s new definition of a COVID death means that COVID has killed fewer people in Italy than (whisper it) the average bout of seasonal flu.
If a similar change were made by other national governments, the official COVID death toll would be cut by a margin of greater than 90 per cent.“
...and what other surprises are they cooking up in the lab for us next...
For anybody that listened to a reasonable portion of the FDAs advisory committee meeting that ultimately resulted in a 17-0 (with one abstention) vote to move vaccines forward for 5-11 year olds, one major theme was that they felt that the vaccine should be available to vulnerable children ("organ transplant recipients") but they were concerned that moving forward would lead to mandates.
https://www.sfgate.com/bay-area-politics/article/San-Francisco-vaccine-mandate-children-5-11-COVID-16589184.php
Then, they should have (and could have) put restrictions on their recommendation.
Lined up against a wall or dangling from a rope.
No study on organ transplant recipients (of which, I guarantee not even a single child was in their study) means no efficacy can be established.
Very well said. Would that people everywhere might try to seek out facts and think think things through for themselves. Thence, a truly potent peaceful disobedience movement might take shape.
Fear that this will just not be in the cards, however, after observing how pliant ordinary people everywhere have been for almost two years. And how so many resist any suggestion that they stop and think.
So there is a real possibility that post-covid times may be increasingly oppressive - with a majority of the people in most countries steadfastly stringing along with govt edicts, whatever those edicts might be.
this is nuts, Biden just issued I guess an official vaccine mandate, on twitter it was tweeted... yeah, this has NEVER been about a virus, thanks. Shouts of and screams of Let's Go Brandon all over the country
Good about finally issuing the mandate. Now some of our better AG's can take it to court since only congress has the ability to make mandate legal.
hope many of them do so, thanks for this
who goes nazi, from CS Lewis' wife in Harpers magazine years ago, seems appropriate, https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/