No. It's with Americans being replaced by anyone from abroad.
It wouldn't even be so bad if Americans weren't being fired and made to train their replacements.
I understand why people from India want to come to the United States. What I never could understand is why there are H1-Bs coming from Western Europe to work here. I worked with som…
No. It's with Americans being replaced by anyone from abroad.
It wouldn't even be so bad if Americans weren't being fired and made to train their replacements.
I understand why people from India want to come to the United States. What I never could understand is why there are H1-Bs coming from Western Europe to work here. I worked with some of them from the UK. Now, that made me angry. Couldn't they get work at home?
The problem is Americans, by in large, are unwilling to work 14 hour days.
It doesn't matter how smart you are, if you want to CREATE wealth, you have no other choice than to burn the candle at both ends in your youth (25 to 50). I would argue youth is a persons biggest asset. Many are squanderiing it. Started with participation trophies.
Being smart is just the foundation. Hard work is the framing, and risk management is the finishings.
I totally agree with the working hard. I spent years getting a couple of different degrees. But I don’t agree that any guy, and even worse, maybe you’re even talking about mothers as well, should have to work an 80 hour work week.
They did a huge study for six years in Europe and found that 39 hours is the most a man should work and 26 hours the most a female should work.
They found out 80% of females who work past 26 hours during the week get extremely strung out and depressed it because they can’t do anything much at home. Father shouldn’t be working 80 hours either. It’s one thing to sacrifice by working maybe 50 hours in your 20s but come on!!! Parents would never see their children. Nobody in the world should be working 80 hours unless a person obsessively loved their job and even then it wouldn’t make sense.
If you are an entrepreneur, working long hours makes sense because you are working for yourself and you may end up creating wealth for yourself.
Working long hours for somebody else just makes wealth for them, especially if you aren't being paid much.
Most people are not cut out to be entrepreneurs. There's nothing wrong with that. Why should everybody work long hours for low pay for somebody else and why should everyone who is not an entrepreneur not be allowed to make enough money to support themselves?
It's not about participation trophies. H1-B started in 1990 so they were replacing boomers. Say what you like about my generation, but we never got f-ing participation trophies.
I agree 100%. However, sometimes the “price” is too high when marriages crumble due to who drove the wealth. Naïveté and thinking you’re on the same page can lose what one treasures the most: family. And wealth can evaporate with greedy lawyers and “other interested parties”. After multiple companies, I’ll keep it small and secure going forward. Entrepreneurs are a unique breed and it’s seldom as straightforward as it appears from outside. She says sadly…
Well I completely agree. I certainly was blessed in that department and there's zero chance I could've made it without my wife.
About 85% of the time it's nice owning a business, because of the flexibility, etc...but then there's that 15% of the time that's just living hell...where you have scrape yourself out of bed after a couple hours sleep and work until the jobs done...or you may not have a bed to sleep in at all.
Yes, the satisfaction of providing for others was my motivator and we were very profitable. I was able to provide well for hundreds of staff and my family. Still, it takes a spouse who gets it and doesn’t feel threatened. Mine did and some things aren’t fixable with financial infidelity as well as the usual kind. Bless confident men!
I'm here to talk about H1B. That's why the Bad Cat wrote his substack, right?
Do entrepreneurs need to hire H1Bs? I hope not.
I really don't know what you are trying to say. Sure, theoretically wealth creation benefits everyone. But you don't want it putting people out of work which is what the H1B does.
But that SOB Musk thinks the answer is UBI. He said so again on Twitter the other day. To hell with him.
I didn't like the way Musk or ramsaway talked either
And trust me id much rather American workers were doing those jobs. I think we just disagree on what the complexion if the current workforce in America looks like.
I stand by my position:
We are not the same people we were in the 80's and earlier. Striving for excellence is not as much of part of our ethos as it was back then.
We can argue why. And I agree with some of the root problems. But I just don't see, on average, the commitment to do what it takes now. I think a lot of Americans feel disenfranchised and beat down and hopeless...and i think a lot of that has to do with illegal immigration and corporate cronyism.
This country does have problems and of course they need to be fixed. But people need to fix it, our corrupt institutions will not.
For years, my mother thought that business was a very positive thing, always. Then her kids had a hard time finding decent work after graduation from college. Then she thought a little differently.
You got it Ryan! Don't know how for years I worked a regular job, then a home-based software business into the wee hours. Not especially thrilled in retrospect about not spending more time with my kids.
Americans aren't lazy, we just figured out that working harder rarely results in success. Only bigger profits for slave masters like yourself, while we get divorced and fired on a whim.
Profits and productivity go up, but our wages don't. It's a scam, and more and more Americans are waking up to the fact that it's a fixed game. This thread and this issue are perfect illustrations of that: slave masters and immigrants whining about how real Americans need to make room and work harder for less money.
No, you are being a dick by expecting people to work 80 hours.
As a woman, I absolutely appreciate you working long hours for the family sake. At least if your wife was home yes there was a parent home and all our fathers went to work when we were kids. But not for 80 hours a week. You have 600 employees. That’s nice. Wouldn’t it be nice to have 300 employees and have spent a few less hours working? Is 100 employees enough?
I know you will try to show me some way that it doesn’t work like that and you don’t get 300 employees by working less etc. but what I’m saying is you are bragging about working 80 hours a week and having 600 employees when I’m saying, you could’ve been 1/3 as successful and having a couple hundred employees and spent a little bit more time at home.
I can't speak for all Brits, but I'd be tempted to move to the US if I could. Why?
The economy isn't doing very well. I work in finance in the City of London, earn about $120K per year gross of tax, but pay about 40% in income tax and local rates, another 20% goes in VAT. I'm mid forties and if I am honest, probably doing less well than my peers of similar age in my profession (I'm not 'good with people'). From what I hear, US salaries are much higher, taxes are lower (depending on where you live) and costs are lower (notwithstanding recent inflation). A colleague of mine managed to get a transfer from the UK to a red state in the US, bought a 7 bed room house for about $300K and has two cars. In the UK he owned a small flat, which I expect would have cost about the same.
With Trump's election I hope a nail will be put in the coffin of the climate change and renewables scam. Electricity is very expensive in the UK. Not quite yet German levels, but our government is working on it. At the time of writing, the US is the only country where there seems to be hope for liberty.
Most importantly, after the Covid tyranny, I simply don't enjoy the company of most people anymore. I can interact socially, but it's skin deep. For the same reason, I don't feel as strongly about moving further away from where my parents live. Why not move to somewhere where I know there are more people with my views than anywhere else?
One reason where I still prefer the UK however is for the raising of children. The school system is perfectly ok, although it does depend on where you live (my kids go to an academically selective school). The schools are woke, but it's not on steroids as it is in the US public system. Oh, and and there are no vaccine requirements to go to public schools in the UK.
When I was working with the H1Bs from the UK, it was 20 years ago. Also, I live in San Francisco which was more like its old self then so that may have been one other reason that they wanted to move. So yeah, I can understand that people might want to move to California (which was starting to get crazy even then).....but it's not right to allow companies to just import people to replace Americans.
But my husband and I have lived in a rented apartment for years. It's impossible to buy anything here unless you inherited money. My brother had been able to buy a home in Oregon, but he is nearly 6 years older than I am and the prices there were pretty reasonable several years ago.
In Europe, it sounds like the governments are just trying to figure out how to get people to die from cold and starvation. Biden (or whoever has been pulling his strings) would have gone along with that. But this country is huge and even though the Federal government keeps trying harder and harder to interfere with everything, the states still have some autonomy which is fortunate.
No. It's with Americans being replaced by anyone from abroad.
It wouldn't even be so bad if Americans weren't being fired and made to train their replacements.
I understand why people from India want to come to the United States. What I never could understand is why there are H1-Bs coming from Western Europe to work here. I worked with some of them from the UK. Now, that made me angry. Couldn't they get work at home?
The problem is Americans, by in large, are unwilling to work 14 hour days.
It doesn't matter how smart you are, if you want to CREATE wealth, you have no other choice than to burn the candle at both ends in your youth (25 to 50). I would argue youth is a persons biggest asset. Many are squanderiing it. Started with participation trophies.
Being smart is just the foundation. Hard work is the framing, and risk management is the finishings.
I totally agree with the working hard. I spent years getting a couple of different degrees. But I don’t agree that any guy, and even worse, maybe you’re even talking about mothers as well, should have to work an 80 hour work week.
They did a huge study for six years in Europe and found that 39 hours is the most a man should work and 26 hours the most a female should work.
They found out 80% of females who work past 26 hours during the week get extremely strung out and depressed it because they can’t do anything much at home. Father shouldn’t be working 80 hours either. It’s one thing to sacrifice by working maybe 50 hours in your 20s but come on!!! Parents would never see their children. Nobody in the world should be working 80 hours unless a person obsessively loved their job and even then it wouldn’t make sense.
You left out, for 7 days pay.
If you are an entrepreneur, working long hours makes sense because you are working for yourself and you may end up creating wealth for yourself.
Working long hours for somebody else just makes wealth for them, especially if you aren't being paid much.
Most people are not cut out to be entrepreneurs. There's nothing wrong with that. Why should everybody work long hours for low pay for somebody else and why should everyone who is not an entrepreneur not be allowed to make enough money to support themselves?
It's not about participation trophies. H1-B started in 1990 so they were replacing boomers. Say what you like about my generation, but we never got f-ing participation trophies.
Again I'm not talking about the average employee. I'm talking about entrepreneurs and their teams.
They CREATE wealth which benefits everyone....including the types of individuals your talking about.
Most people can't...risk takers are those who create a rising tide. Work-a-days earn and spend money created by entrepreneurs.
Sorry. It's just the way it is.
I agree 100%. However, sometimes the “price” is too high when marriages crumble due to who drove the wealth. Naïveté and thinking you’re on the same page can lose what one treasures the most: family. And wealth can evaporate with greedy lawyers and “other interested parties”. After multiple companies, I’ll keep it small and secure going forward. Entrepreneurs are a unique breed and it’s seldom as straightforward as it appears from outside. She says sadly…
Well I completely agree. I certainly was blessed in that department and there's zero chance I could've made it without my wife.
About 85% of the time it's nice owning a business, because of the flexibility, etc...but then there's that 15% of the time that's just living hell...where you have scrape yourself out of bed after a couple hours sleep and work until the jobs done...or you may not have a bed to sleep in at all.
Been there. Done that.
But a few years of handing out year-end bonuses after a good year make up for a lot of 18 hour days, or agonizing over making payroll.
Yes, the satisfaction of providing for others was my motivator and we were very profitable. I was able to provide well for hundreds of staff and my family. Still, it takes a spouse who gets it and doesn’t feel threatened. Mine did and some things aren’t fixable with financial infidelity as well as the usual kind. Bless confident men!
I'm here to talk about H1B. That's why the Bad Cat wrote his substack, right?
Do entrepreneurs need to hire H1Bs? I hope not.
I really don't know what you are trying to say. Sure, theoretically wealth creation benefits everyone. But you don't want it putting people out of work which is what the H1B does.
But that SOB Musk thinks the answer is UBI. He said so again on Twitter the other day. To hell with him.
He was talking about much more than just HB-1.
Reread his article.
I don't need to reread his article. I have no gripe with the Bad Cat.
I want Musk to quit talking about UBI and pushing H1-B and saying Americans are too stupid for tech jobs.
I didn't like the way Musk or ramsaway talked either
And trust me id much rather American workers were doing those jobs. I think we just disagree on what the complexion if the current workforce in America looks like.
I stand by my position:
We are not the same people we were in the 80's and earlier. Striving for excellence is not as much of part of our ethos as it was back then.
We can argue why. And I agree with some of the root problems. But I just don't see, on average, the commitment to do what it takes now. I think a lot of Americans feel disenfranchised and beat down and hopeless...and i think a lot of that has to do with illegal immigration and corporate cronyism.
H1-B will not give us excellence.
This country does have problems and of course they need to be fixed. But people need to fix it, our corrupt institutions will not.
For years, my mother thought that business was a very positive thing, always. Then her kids had a hard time finding decent work after graduation from college. Then she thought a little differently.
Well we agree at base. We got some work to do and it has nothing to do with HB-1.
It's the profligate parasites in DC and it's incestuous relationship with crony capitalism that has gutted this country.
Funny how China benefited from that...
You got it Ryan! Don't know how for years I worked a regular job, then a home-based software business into the wee hours. Not especially thrilled in retrospect about not spending more time with my kids.
Yeah, same. But I'm making up for it now with my kids. And frankly they'll have a better life because of my wife and my sacrifices.
Bullshit.
Dude, I have nearly 600 employees, and have owned several business for 25 years. I think i have a little experience evaluating this. Do you?
No need to be a dick.
Americans aren't lazy, we just figured out that working harder rarely results in success. Only bigger profits for slave masters like yourself, while we get divorced and fired on a whim.
Profits and productivity go up, but our wages don't. It's a scam, and more and more Americans are waking up to the fact that it's a fixed game. This thread and this issue are perfect illustrations of that: slave masters and immigrants whining about how real Americans need to make room and work harder for less money.
top graph:
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
Totally agree with your link. I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.
If you want to MAKE money you have no choice to do anything other than i said.
And why do you think i ate glass for breakfast and looked into the abyss for the first 10 years after I started my first business?
Because I refuse to make another man rich.
If if it was easy to MAKE money then everyone would do it.
But it's not. And therefore most don't.
I was like you once, Ryan. Now it no longer seems worth the effort. Good luck.
I wouldn't do it at my age now...that's for sure.
No, you are being a dick by expecting people to work 80 hours.
As a woman, I absolutely appreciate you working long hours for the family sake. At least if your wife was home yes there was a parent home and all our fathers went to work when we were kids. But not for 80 hours a week. You have 600 employees. That’s nice. Wouldn’t it be nice to have 300 employees and have spent a few less hours working? Is 100 employees enough?
I know you will try to show me some way that it doesn’t work like that and you don’t get 300 employees by working less etc. but what I’m saying is you are bragging about working 80 hours a week and having 600 employees when I’m saying, you could’ve been 1/3 as successful and having a couple hundred employees and spent a little bit more time at home.
Did i ever say I expect people to work 80 hr weeks?
Not in the least. Not only do I not expect it, i don't allow it to happen.
But when you're the one who writes the checks you just don't have an alternative.
When you've literally stayed up 4 nights in a row on multiple occasions come talk to me.
Like I said...most can't. So wht would I expect someone who works for me to do so? I'm the one that took the risk...not them.
If I did...well...then your claim that I'm a dick would be true. Fortunately my employees could tell you first hand that you are misjudging me.
Not sure why you are.
I can't speak for all Brits, but I'd be tempted to move to the US if I could. Why?
The economy isn't doing very well. I work in finance in the City of London, earn about $120K per year gross of tax, but pay about 40% in income tax and local rates, another 20% goes in VAT. I'm mid forties and if I am honest, probably doing less well than my peers of similar age in my profession (I'm not 'good with people'). From what I hear, US salaries are much higher, taxes are lower (depending on where you live) and costs are lower (notwithstanding recent inflation). A colleague of mine managed to get a transfer from the UK to a red state in the US, bought a 7 bed room house for about $300K and has two cars. In the UK he owned a small flat, which I expect would have cost about the same.
With Trump's election I hope a nail will be put in the coffin of the climate change and renewables scam. Electricity is very expensive in the UK. Not quite yet German levels, but our government is working on it. At the time of writing, the US is the only country where there seems to be hope for liberty.
Most importantly, after the Covid tyranny, I simply don't enjoy the company of most people anymore. I can interact socially, but it's skin deep. For the same reason, I don't feel as strongly about moving further away from where my parents live. Why not move to somewhere where I know there are more people with my views than anywhere else?
One reason where I still prefer the UK however is for the raising of children. The school system is perfectly ok, although it does depend on where you live (my kids go to an academically selective school). The schools are woke, but it's not on steroids as it is in the US public system. Oh, and and there are no vaccine requirements to go to public schools in the UK.
When I was working with the H1Bs from the UK, it was 20 years ago. Also, I live in San Francisco which was more like its old self then so that may have been one other reason that they wanted to move. So yeah, I can understand that people might want to move to California (which was starting to get crazy even then).....but it's not right to allow companies to just import people to replace Americans.
But my husband and I have lived in a rented apartment for years. It's impossible to buy anything here unless you inherited money. My brother had been able to buy a home in Oregon, but he is nearly 6 years older than I am and the prices there were pretty reasonable several years ago.
In Europe, it sounds like the governments are just trying to figure out how to get people to die from cold and starvation. Biden (or whoever has been pulling his strings) would have gone along with that. But this country is huge and even though the Federal government keeps trying harder and harder to interfere with everything, the states still have some autonomy which is fortunate.
Did you just say that when 6% of the people are committing 60% of the crime it’s not at all a problem?!?
You just said no, which is pretty unreasonable. They are certainly both a problem. There is no no about it.