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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

Education is a goods and service, NOT a right. Founding Fathers wanted all of us to have Allodial Property Titles for good reason. Taxation is theft. Prior to Victory Tax, which was repealed in 1944 as unconstitutional, we had roads, police, schools, etc. Property taxation ensure no one owns anything, which reinforces the Marxist plan.

"Although Marx advocated the use of any means, especially including violent revolution, to bring about socialist dictatorship, he suggested ten political goals for developed countries such as the United States. How far has the United States -- traditionally the bastion of freedom, free markets, and private property -- gone down the Marxist road to fulfill these socialist aims? You be the judge. The following are Marx's ten planks from his Communist Manifesto.

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

The courts have interpreted the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868) to give the government far more "eminent domain" power than was originally intended, Under the rubric of "eminent domain" and various zoning regulations, land use regulations by the Bureau of Land Managementproperty taxes, and "environmental" excuses, private property rights have become very diluted and private property in landis, vehicles, and other forms are seized almost every day in this country under the "forfeiture" provisions of the RICO statutes and the so-called War on Drugs..

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

The 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913 (which some scholars maintain was never properly ratified), and various State income taxes, established this major Marxist coup in the United States many decades ago. These taxes continue to drain the lifeblood out of the American economy and greatly reduce the accumulation of desperately needed capital for future growth, business starts, job creation, and salary increases.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

Another Marxian attack on private property rights is in the form of Federal & State estate taxes and other inheritance taxes, which have abolished or at least greatly diluted the right of private property owners to determine the disposition and distribution of their estates upon their death. Instead, government bureaucrats get their greedy hands involved .

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

We call it government seizures, tax liens, "forfeiture" Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

The Federal Reserve System, created by the Federal Reserve Act of Congress in 1913, is indeed such a "national bank" and it politically manipulates interest rates and holds a monopoly on legal counterfeiting in the United States. This is exactly what Marx had in mind and completely fulfills this plank, another major socialist objective. Yet, most Americans naively believe the U.S. of A. is far from a Marxist or socialist nation.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

In the U.S., communication and transportation are controlled and regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) established by the Communications Act of 1934 and the Department of Transportation and the Interstate Commerce Commission (established by Congress in 1887), and the Federal Aviation Administration as well as Executive orders 11490, 10999 -- not to mention various state bureaucracies and regulations. There is also the federal postal monopoly, AMTRAK and CONRAIL -- outright socialist (government-owned) enterprises. Instead of free-market private enteprrise in these important industries, these fields in America are semi-cartelized through the government's regulatory-industiral complex.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

While the U.S. does not have vast "collective farms" (which failed so miserably in the Soviet Union), we nevertheless do have a significant degree of government involvement in agriculture in the form of price support subsidies and acreage alotments and land-use controls. The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. And I almost forgot...The Equal Rights Amendment means that women should do all work that men do including the military and since passage it would make women subject to the draft.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

We call it the Planning Reorganization Act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . "

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el gato malo's avatar

indeed, education is not a right. you cannot have a positive right that requires the actions of others and thereby violates their negative rights to self determination.

but we must also work within the realm of the possible if we would seek change and if you think there is any chance whatsoever at this point to get americans to stop funding schools and offering paid education to kids, i then i suspect you're badly out of touch.

school choice is a way to inject the market back into the system and at least generate choice. it's an outcome that's possible as opposed to the sort of "let's not have public education budgets" edge lording that's never going to go anywhere.

is it ideal? no.

is it a huge step in the right direction that will set us up for the next steps after? yes.

making the perfect the enemy of the better is no way to create progress.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

let's not have properties taxed for public schools is the first step, actually.

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Rob D's avatar

It amazes me that we pay "property taxes" at all. But, people get scared that if they get to keep their own money and pay for services themselves their garbage won't get picked up or the firemen won't show up when their house is burning. As someone who spent a lot of my life in *very* rural America, we paid low taxes and had to deal with things on our own and somehow we did just fine. In my opinion, property taxes (like many other taxes) are to pay for government worker's salaries and retirements while offering substandard service (in a most cases) at inflated prices. What a disgusting scam. And yet, when offered to get rid of property taxes (as North Dakota did some years back) the people reject it.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

i pay for my own garbage service to a private local company that picks up like clockwork! it's quite inexpensive too vs gov fleecing and associated subpar quality of services in general. at least the post office, insolvent as it is, charges for postage on a per usage basis and does a decent job vs public schools.

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Rob D's avatar

Yep. We used to pay for our own here where I am is well. Unfortunately, we got some monsters in charge that changed everything "for the earth". Now, if we roll the dumpster to the curb once every month or once a week it costs the same insane amount. Government destroys everything it touches.

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KatLee's avatar

I also pay for garbage service and a fire subscription to the volunteer fire department.

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The Motherlord's avatar

When my kids were young we lived in Santa Monica, which is its own city within LA County. We had to pay property taxes to both Santa Monica and LA schools. My son could read at 3. Our local public school said they would do everything they could to slow him down and discourage his reading until he was along the same level of his peers, usually by age 8 or 9. So, we paid for public schools in 2 districts and for private school until we decided to homeschool.

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kitten seeking answers's avatar

unbelievably sad... this is so upside down... your story is mind blowing... totally broken system... also love you for your pursuit of your child’s best interests!💕🐱💕

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kitten seeking answers's avatar

...ever inflating property taxes do contribute to the problem... during COVID, never remind ‘remote’ learning, the public high school down the street completed a multimillion dollar renovation including huge new performing arts center, new football stadium and solar panel array covering entire student body parking lot... these were ‘WANTS’ not ‘NEEDS’... must STARVE THE BEAST... back to the basics and prep for the insane challenges that lay ahead for these kids

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

prop taxes are wholly the problem here as per your "starve the beast" sentiment. without property tax theft the parasitic progressives running these public skool would not have access to plasma, and as such would migrate to other hosts (ie gov positions). and their thirst for blood only increases = budgets only ever increase. you get the drift.

edit: and imagine all that additional disposable income from not getting mugged via taxes, and how that could be effectively deployed for education, and other freedoms?

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Guttermouth's avatar

Part of this is linked to another big problem in this and many other countries: intensely overregulated professional licensing schemes mostly by state governments that ensure a guild-like monopoly on, and control of the content of, professional services.

I'm a great teacher. I've been told this a million times- I'm not bringing it up to brag. I've taught humans of almost every age about English, us history, psychology, research methods, public speaking, you name it.

I do all of it under the title of "instructor" or "tutor" or "staff development," because I don't have a teaching license.

To get one, I would have to ignore the two graduate degrees I already have, attend another 4 years of school for a curriculum containing about the most heavily-laden political indoctrination of any captured area of academia, and in some states sign an agreement that I believe in and will advance an ideological agenda that I would literally sooner die than advance.

They only let their cultists teach now, and unless the cult gives you the license to teach, your students gain no credentials from your education.

Now look at what cowards millions of our doctors are when their licenses are threatened for merely speaking out of turn.

And how many of them have to sign agreements that breastfeeding is chestfeeding and men give birth before being allowed to have a career.

We can't have a revolution in education unless we can have educators that can provide educations that "count" credentials, but you have to willingly or unwillingly join the cult to be granted that grace.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

Very important points you bring up! The rot is systemic. Nothing but starving the beast will solve this, and by starving the beast I mean cessation of all property taxation, and using those monies to fund local schools for parents with school aged children. The direction local funding of schools, the direct local vetting of teachers that the community approves of is the only way out of this.

Begging for school "choice" from the very same governments that are perpetrating these mind numbing progressive curriculums is as naive as it is inane. The same governments that you so insightfully point out control the (leftist) teacher credentialing, those "magnanimous" governments will offer you a choice, if forced to: crt skool a vs crt skool b. Oh, you don't like it? You don't even have any school aged children? Well, tough fucking shit. Oh, you don't agree with us and don't want to pay us whatever we demand? Expect armed men to arrive at "your" home and eject you from what is now OUR HOME.

Thanks for playing, slave.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

i am only out of touch as direct function of society being totally brainwashed and reduced to mindless slavery. but hey, dream big, right?

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el gato malo's avatar

that seems like the lazy edge lordy argument of a guy who wants to profess ideological purity but accomplish nothing (and thereby not have to do any work)

it's easy to demand the perfect to which others will not accede.

doing the work to move the overton window of what is possible so that we might get there eventually is harder, but has the advantage of actually being possible.

yours is the attitude that consigns one to be a heckler in the audience instead of player in the game.

that seems a poor pretext for self-congratulation.

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steve griffin's avatar

Carter broke education when he created Dept of Education. Gotta shut it down first so everybody knows we are serious. Unless their only job is to divy out $$ to parents to send kids to schools of their choice.

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

except you are being presumptuous in what i may actually be doing, yes? everything starts with getting ones own house in order, and i am acutely aware on the local level what fuckery transpires at the school board level, and what is being done to combat that. so really check yourself there, because you have no idea the level of work being done here.

there is no self-congratulation here, it's just that you don't like my take because it's so much more than what you have proposed. i do get that incremental steps are vital here, and to that end it is as i wrote a local level endeavor, but seeing the big picture and working toward that is equally as important.

again, i'd say to you study how this nation was conceived and you will better understand how to implement real change with a clear vision of where we need to end up. but maybe you think ideological impurity, imperfection, and incremental half-measure steps is how the og patriots defeated the Brits?

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JohnnyB's avatar

There is a way, and it goes back to whence it all began and is historically supported. tasa.americanstatenationals.org

All of what you seem to describe and then some is here.

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¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

Remember, many of the people we need to reach...have been educated by the very system that needs to be torn down. Imagine trying to convince Red Sox fans that they really should be Yankee fans.

IMO, this will require the same kind of incrementalism that THEY employed for the past century+ that got us to where we are today.

Virginia may be an example of this. McAwful lost, but just barely. The election turned on education, but 49% (or whatever) of Virginia voters STILL voted for education tyranny and zero parental input in kids' education.

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Julia Lerner's avatar

People tend to be loyal to whoever supports them in times of need, crisis, illness or disability, whether it be a family, community, church, or state. Disabled folks, and there are a lot of them, tend to depend on the state, since nobody else is likely to help them.

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