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carrots's avatar

Hate to say it but a lot of Californians aren't going to realize the effects of these mandates until it affects them personally. When they have a fire, and there's no firefighters; when they need a paramedic and there aren't any; when their children become vaccine injured. Hospital staffing is also going to be a huge issue. The question is going to be whether these people will blame the people making the mandates or blame the unvaccinated themselves. For record, I live in So Cal, am a "covid survivor" (three weeks of misery but no hospital), and refuse to be vaccinated for many reasons, but also because my group (previous covid infection) was excluded from clinical studies used to obtain EUA/FDA approval. However, I am careful as to who I sharel my vaccination status with, if I am not prepared to be yelled at, called stupid, or as happened once, have someone jump out of the car at a stop sign upon learning my status. (lol)

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Motsumi5150's avatar

I am born/raised in So. Cali, my story is nearly identical to yours. My whole family now is recovered from "Covid" and I kept both kids home from school today (10/18/21) in participation of the California "sit out" to boycott the k-12 school vax mandates. Its absurd that we are not allowed to titter (test out) proving our durable strong complete immunity to SARS-2. People like us (recovered, NO vax) are now the safest folks to be around, we can't catch it, we can't spread it, can't die from it. Unlike the vaxxed whom cannot claim any of the three.

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Candis's avatar

Great points.

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Jennifer's avatar

So true. I'm in the same boat - CA, whole fam recovered. Friends won't hang out with us because we're unvaxxed but they will go to jam-packed amusement parks because proof of vax is required (no worry about diminishing efficacy). Makes sense.

They won't acknowledge natural immunity until their lords Fauci and the CDC tell them to.

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carrots's avatar

Frustrating. My unvaccinated friend definitely picked up Covid at one of those all-vaxxed/proof-of-vax events. Yes, he was unvaccinated at a proof-of-vax event, so take that as you will about “vax proof.” (He’s 29, recovered in a little over a week.)

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Vida Galore's avatar

Californians have gone bonkers. I don't know how you can stand to live there. I got out. Where I am there are maskers but no one bothers me for not wearing one (so far).

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carrots's avatar

Bonkers, I agree. I don't know why we haven't left. I think I like a good fight. Plus, the weather is nice.....

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Doug Young's avatar

Yes, the fight is good here in SF, too. and I tell everyone & anyone who will listen that I'm unvaxxed. When you follow the bad cat, you have a data at your fingertips, so I can turn almost any interlude into a teaching moment.

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Barbelo of the Pleroma's avatar

I am here to I lack your cojones. We are just quietly packing out stuff and getting ready to head to Utah.

I am ready to organize the bay area el gato malo meetup however.

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EricStoner's avatar

Just one I had in mind when I mentioned liars and thieves being re-elected, over and over; Maxine Waters Paid Daughter $74,000 in Campaign Cash This Year Alone https://resistthemainstream.org/maxine-waters-shells-out-whopping-amount-of-campaign-money-to-her-own-daughter/

And, this isn’t her first time!

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Vida Galore's avatar

Well, it's too hard to live there in general. I was sick of the fires and high rent etc. So, the covid19 police state crap was the straw that broke the camel's back.

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Deeply concerned's avatar

True, the weather here cannot be understated. As long as you can find a pocket of least-bonkers, you're okay. Not sure how long that'll last though.

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EricStoner's avatar

We lived there in both northern and southern CA for forty years. Got out five years ago but miss it. A truly gifted state with wonderful people but the mass insanity was overwhelming. Now, with the revelations of totally corrupt elections I think I understand how liars, thieves, and incompetents kept getting re-elected. What a shame. At one time in history they were the envy of the country if not the world. Now, circling the toilet bowl.

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Vida Galore's avatar

I lived in LA and San Mateo, combined 23 years... miss the ocean, don't miss the traffic, fires, stress, cost of living, and insanity.

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Tigerkatze's avatar

Some of us can’t leave. Custody agreements…

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Perplexity's avatar

Same reason some of us are stuck in Michigan.

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