Lol! I didn't say I did. You are surmising that and making assumptions. I simply said the Bible is historical fiction and as such it should be in the fiction section of the library or bookstore. It is not meant to be taken literally. If it was people would be dashing babies' heads against rocks and raping women and all other manner of il…
Lol! I didn't say I did. You are surmising that and making assumptions. I simply said the Bible is historical fiction and as such it should be in the fiction section of the library or bookstore. It is not meant to be taken literally. If it was people would be dashing babies' heads against rocks and raping women and all other manner of ill shit. We don't believe in Zeus, Poseidon or any other Greek gods. We don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the tooth fairy. Why in the hell should we believe in some invisible cloud being? People have a belief in god because they are afraid to die and they can't believe that this world that we live in with all of its faults and all of its beauty and all of its absolute horror is all there is. We make our own meaning. Stop looking for it outside yourself.
I get you. I'm an atheist myself, and I know as well as you that Christianity is no better than the rest and the argument against biblical literalism is valid--it's too self-contradictory to really follow literally and even literalists have to engage in metaphor and logical pretzels to make it work in their minds. Everyone is pretty much taking from it what they want.
But people will come to things when they come to it--if they come to it--and that goes for Christian evangelists as well as atheists. If someone is tolerant of my atheism and is otherwise a good person, I try not to let it bug me if something that means something to them is absurd from my pov. As I've said before to others, I dont care if you believe in fairies living in the meadow, so long as they aren't telling you to kill anyone or enforce or pressure the belief on others.
And the change in recent years in the atheist community in which atheists have increasingly treated science and medicine like medieval peasants treated the Catholic church, in which people with science titles are priests and the words of a loftier title override those with lesser titles, and in which we, the unwashed masses, have no right to see evidence or do our own research or make our own decision,only a Properly Accredited Acolyte may do those things on our behalf and ours is not to understand or choose but to believe and obey...
Well, I've come to realize that no one is immune to emotional illogic, no matter how much they think they are. Unfortunately.
Given that many of the 'scientists' have abandoned science and got themselves injected with something they hope will save them from something they've been told is 'bad', I think the whole 'reverence for logical folk in white coats' thing has had its day.
Lol! I didn't say I did. You are surmising that and making assumptions. I simply said the Bible is historical fiction and as such it should be in the fiction section of the library or bookstore. It is not meant to be taken literally. If it was people would be dashing babies' heads against rocks and raping women and all other manner of ill shit. We don't believe in Zeus, Poseidon or any other Greek gods. We don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the tooth fairy. Why in the hell should we believe in some invisible cloud being? People have a belief in god because they are afraid to die and they can't believe that this world that we live in with all of its faults and all of its beauty and all of its absolute horror is all there is. We make our own meaning. Stop looking for it outside yourself.
yes you did. and you keep saying it.
I get you. I'm an atheist myself, and I know as well as you that Christianity is no better than the rest and the argument against biblical literalism is valid--it's too self-contradictory to really follow literally and even literalists have to engage in metaphor and logical pretzels to make it work in their minds. Everyone is pretty much taking from it what they want.
But people will come to things when they come to it--if they come to it--and that goes for Christian evangelists as well as atheists. If someone is tolerant of my atheism and is otherwise a good person, I try not to let it bug me if something that means something to them is absurd from my pov. As I've said before to others, I dont care if you believe in fairies living in the meadow, so long as they aren't telling you to kill anyone or enforce or pressure the belief on others.
And the change in recent years in the atheist community in which atheists have increasingly treated science and medicine like medieval peasants treated the Catholic church, in which people with science titles are priests and the words of a loftier title override those with lesser titles, and in which we, the unwashed masses, have no right to see evidence or do our own research or make our own decision,only a Properly Accredited Acolyte may do those things on our behalf and ours is not to understand or choose but to believe and obey...
Well, I've come to realize that no one is immune to emotional illogic, no matter how much they think they are. Unfortunately.
Given that many of the 'scientists' have abandoned science and got themselves injected with something they hope will save them from something they've been told is 'bad', I think the whole 'reverence for logical folk in white coats' thing has had its day.