That's not even close to true. And I don't need to walk back anything, because your claim that I favor adopting their tactics is a dishonest calumny not supportable in the least. And we know this, because when I asked "where have I even suggested..." you didn't quote anything, and instead you pulled out the "that is clearly a 'suggesti…
That's not even close to true. And I don't need to walk back anything, because your claim that I favor adopting their tactics is a dishonest calumny not supportable in the least. And we know this, because when I asked "where have I even suggested..." you didn't quote anything, and instead you pulled out the "that is clearly a 'suggestion'..." dog whistle implication.
Here are my comments:
"These are very critical points that need to be made over and over and over.
To wit: if the vaxxed, regardless of how many there are, if the vaxxed are driving transmission, then WHY should we unvaxxed take the jabs??" ~ the ONLY point there is that there's no reason the unvaxxed should take the jabs.
"It's an essential argument against Chinese virus vaxxes, not against the vaxxed." ~ I could not be MORE clear that the object of my argument is NOT against the vaxxed, because I say so explicitly!
"Who on the unvaxxed side has called for the vaxxed to be denied hospital access, to be force-locked-down, to be ostracized and shunned and prevented from exercising their civil rights?" ~ no one, but then you drag out the dishonest, "well, it's what you *meant*, we all know that", a dog-whistle argument.
I'm done discussing this with you, because by repeatedly insinuating to me things not even remotely close to what I'm saying, and your refusal/inability to quote anything incriminating and instead advancing your own self-serving inferences, you continue to discuss this in bad faith.
What I've said is demonstrably true, even if you refuse to follow your own argument and defense of blaming the vaxxed with any standard of rational consistency. You joined in to debate me on a direct response to somebody claiming it was the vaxxed that spread. You came to that person and that person's argument's defense. This is an inescapable fact if you just revisit how this started.
You: "The vaxx fanatics don't know it's their fault because they choose to only get their news from, apparently, the alphabet legacy media and Anthony Fauci who've lied to them almost from Day One.
You say they don't know it's there fault because they're misinformed in one breath and deny saying you even even implied it was there fault in another.
You then proceed to accuse me if accusing you of claiming you would deny the vaxxed health services. In fact, what I SAID was the beginning of that kind of justification is the blame game. Once you've identified the problem, laid the blame, it opens up the door to justifying all sorts of responses to deal with said problem.
I have not "insinuated" anything. I've carefully responded only to what you've actually done and said. Any other inferences you make from that are your own and not attributable to me.
That's not even close to true. And I don't need to walk back anything, because your claim that I favor adopting their tactics is a dishonest calumny not supportable in the least. And we know this, because when I asked "where have I even suggested..." you didn't quote anything, and instead you pulled out the "that is clearly a 'suggestion'..." dog whistle implication.
Here are my comments:
"These are very critical points that need to be made over and over and over.
To wit: if the vaxxed, regardless of how many there are, if the vaxxed are driving transmission, then WHY should we unvaxxed take the jabs??" ~ the ONLY point there is that there's no reason the unvaxxed should take the jabs.
"It's an essential argument against Chinese virus vaxxes, not against the vaxxed." ~ I could not be MORE clear that the object of my argument is NOT against the vaxxed, because I say so explicitly!
"Who on the unvaxxed side has called for the vaxxed to be denied hospital access, to be force-locked-down, to be ostracized and shunned and prevented from exercising their civil rights?" ~ no one, but then you drag out the dishonest, "well, it's what you *meant*, we all know that", a dog-whistle argument.
I'm done discussing this with you, because by repeatedly insinuating to me things not even remotely close to what I'm saying, and your refusal/inability to quote anything incriminating and instead advancing your own self-serving inferences, you continue to discuss this in bad faith.
What I've said is demonstrably true, even if you refuse to follow your own argument and defense of blaming the vaxxed with any standard of rational consistency. You joined in to debate me on a direct response to somebody claiming it was the vaxxed that spread. You came to that person and that person's argument's defense. This is an inescapable fact if you just revisit how this started.
You: "The vaxx fanatics don't know it's their fault because they choose to only get their news from, apparently, the alphabet legacy media and Anthony Fauci who've lied to them almost from Day One.
You say they don't know it's there fault because they're misinformed in one breath and deny saying you even even implied it was there fault in another.
You then proceed to accuse me if accusing you of claiming you would deny the vaxxed health services. In fact, what I SAID was the beginning of that kind of justification is the blame game. Once you've identified the problem, laid the blame, it opens up the door to justifying all sorts of responses to deal with said problem.
I have not "insinuated" anything. I've carefully responded only to what you've actually done and said. Any other inferences you make from that are your own and not attributable to me.